Remote NDIS / USB Tethering Speed USB 3.1 - Sony Xperia XZ1 Questions & Answers

Hello,
The XZ1 has a USB 3.1 C Connector right? Therefore it is capable of 5 Gbit/s (or 10?).
Within Windows 10 the tethered connection (Remote NDIS Compatible Device) is shown as a 425,9 Mbit/s Connection (Connected to a USB 3.0 ). Thats the same speed I am getting from a USB 2.0 Device.
Did I do or understand something wrong?
Thank you!

celeron1 said:
Hello,
The XZ1 has a USB 3.1 C Connector right? Therefore it is capable of 5 Gbit/s (or 10?).
Within Windows 10 the tethered connection (Remote NDIS Compatible Device) is shown as a 425,9 Mbit/s Connection (Connected to a USB 3.0 ). Thats the same speed I am getting from a USB 2.0 Device.
Did I do or understand something wrong?
Thank you!
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While it's got the Type-C USB connector, it is not clear if the port actually supports USB3.0 or higher.
The chipset is capable of that, but not sure about Sony's implementation.
I haven't yet tried to find out due to my lack of Type-C USB3 cables.
The one they shipped with the phone is a cheap USB2 one.

4rz0 said:
While it's got the Type-C USB connector, it is not clear if the port actually supports USB3.0 or higher.
The chipset is capable of that, but not sure about Sony's implementation.
I haven't yet tried to find out due to my lack of Type-C USB3 cables.
The one they shipped with the phone is a cheap USB2 one.
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According to Sonys website the connector is USB 3.1 gen 5. Which means up to 5gbit/s.
How to check if the cable is USB c to a 3.1/3 or 2 without "opening"?

celeron1 said:
According to Sonys website the connector is USB 3.1 gen 5. Which means up to 5gbit/s.
How to check if the cable is USB c to a 3.1/3 or 2 without "opening"?
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Interesting, they omitted the USB version info on the Compact's technical data page.
USB 3.x cables are supposed to have blue plastic inside the Type A connector.
There's also 5 additional pins behind the 4 standard ones that one could see.

4rz0 said:
Interesting, they omitted the USB version info on the Compact's technical data page.
USB 3.x cables are supposed to have blue plastic inside the Type A connector.
There's also 5 additional pins behind the 4 standard ones that one could see.
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Hm okay I also bought one cable which is supposed to have USB3 but it was from aliexpress so cant be sure. On the German page it is described as USB 3.1 while *5 explains that it is 3.1 gen 1 5gbit/s

FYI. I Bought a USB 3.0 Cable and now i get a 851,9Mbit/s connection (NDIS according to Windows).

celeron1 said:
FYI. I Bought a USB 3.0 Cable and now i get a 851,9Mbit/s connection (NDIS according to Windows).
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Neat, thanks for the feedback!
That's hella fast, still waiting for my USB3 cable.

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USB 3.0 with Xperia

OK to use USE 3.0 speeds if I understand this, you need:
- a USB 3.0 port on your computer
- a USB 3.0 cable
As far as I know, you do NOT need a 'USB 3.0 device'. So we could transfer data faster on our Xperias using the above? I'm about to get a new laptop and will definitely aim for USB 3.0 if this is correct. Then you just need to buy a new micro USB 3.0 cable, like on eBay or something, true? Anyone done this yet? I'm browsing on eBay for a new cable, but the micro USB 3.0 end piece does not look like the one for my phone now. e.g.
http://www.ebay.ie/itm/USB-3-0-8-Pi...USB_Cables&hash=item2eae4dca6e#ht_2370wt_1270
SharpnShiny said:
OK to use USE 3.0 speeds if I understand this, you need:
- a USB 3.0 port on your computer
- a USB 3.0 cable
As far as I know, you do NOT need a 'USB 3.0 device'. So we could transfer data faster on our Xperias using the above? I'm about to get a new laptop and will definitely aim for USB 3.0 if this is correct. Then you just need to buy a new micro USB 3.0 cable, like on eBay or something, true? Anyone done this yet? I'm browsing on eBay for a new cable, but the micro USB 3.0 end piece does not look like the one for my phone now. e.g.
http://www.ebay.ie/itm/USB-3-0-8-Pi...USB_Cables&hash=item2eae4dca6e#ht_2370wt_1270
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USB 3 DOES require a USB 3 compatible device... i.e. USB 3 compatible devices on both ends...
Ah this is annoying, the first place I read it said you don't need a 3.0 device, the second place I read it said it works as fast as the slowest device - which could be 2.0. Info. is a little sparse on this, isn't it? But it's been in for a few years. Is it really worth getting 3.0 if adoption is so slow?
No, because our devices have only microUSB v2.0, so we can only have the speed of USB 2.0.
You can try, but you won't get more speed out of it.
SharpnShiny said:
Then you just need to buy a new micro USB 3.0 cable, like on eBay or something, true? Anyone done this yet? I'm browsing on eBay for a new cable, but the micro USB 3.0 end piece does not look like the one for my phone now. e.g. ]
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You can use usb2.0 cable without problems, USB3.0 standard is backwards compatible with usb 2.0. You should probably get faster charge times with USB3.0 because of higher rated mA on ports...
I like the sound of that!
I have heard of many problems with USB 2 devices in 3 ports. Driver issues apparently.
I look forward to phones which support USB 3 because that's now a missing link the chain - the computers selling now have the ports. I was a bit doubtful of the 'real' benefits of the speed (I was quite young when USB 2 came in) but my God, it is fantastic. I backup my hard drive frequently and I am amazed at the speed every time. :laugh:
Hi,
the only problem you can have by using USB3.0 port for your smartphone, it's a driver problem.
For the speed of transfert, you need USB3 port, USB3 cable and... USB3 device .
The connector of USB3 (device side) is different from USB2 and I never saw USB3 cable with micro port (used on our smartphone).
It's a shame, I can't wait for USB 3.0 phones! I didn't care much about until I got my first USB 3.0 hard drive...wow
but why need usb 3.0?
the best would be a class 10 sdcard -- so writing files into the phone's memory card is faster.
10 sd will be enough
Yep ultimately I would prefer to use a phone's flash memory. I've experimented with music library management on Android but I for my next option I think I'd go with an iOS device.

Micro-USB plug hub with Ethernet

Does a micro-USB hub with ethernet that has at least 3 USB ports exist? I despise chaining a bunch of dongles, so I'd like to see if an all-in-one solution exists:
- micro-USB cable attached to the dongle so it can plug straight into the GNP
- Ethernet port (my experience is that wifi sucks on the GNP)
- 3 USB plugs for flash drive, keyboard/touchpad combo, Flirc.
The closest I found is this Samsung dongle (the price used to be $25 but it went up, can still be found around $17 on ebay shipped from China though), but it only has 2 USB ports and I'm not sure that it would actually work with the GNP:
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Original-Adapter-ET-UP900-Galaxy/dp/B00J2N0GB4
(may be an excellent solution for someone looking just for 1-2 USB ports)
Look on http://www.amazon.com/Inateck-Bus-P...55&sr=8-5&keywords=inateck&pebp=1418217376093
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myshyak said:
Look on http://www.amazon.com/Inateck-Bus-P...55&sr=8-5&keywords=inateck&pebp=1418217376093
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It would be great if it had a micro-USB connector rather than a standard one, to avoid yet another adapter cable.
I dont think that will work. My friend got one and I plugged it into my tablet that has a standard USB slot and ethernet didn't work. I bought a USB (standardsize) to ethernet adapter works fine on my tablet. Now I need a standard to micro adapter

UPDATE USB type c not working

UPDATE:
my fault. Didn't remember I disabled the thunderbolt feat in the bios.
Hi, I got a USB type c 3.1 which I connect to the 3.1 type c port of my computer. When I connect the mobile it only charges it. Trying with installing latest (1.5.65) Samsung drivers to no avail.
Want to use it to transfer files.. What's wrong with what?!
ujh said:
Hi, I got a USB type c 3.1 which I connect to the 3.1 type c port of my computer. When I connect the mobile it only charges it. Trying with installing latest (1.5.65) Samsung drivers to no avail.
Want to use it to transfer files.. What's wrong with what?!
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Your cable may not have wires for data transfer? Try a cable certified for data.
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It works with other phones, s9 displays fast charging.. Is there a way to change it to mtp or something?
Did you buy a cheap cable from Amazon or Ebay, possibly an uncertified cable? If so, that's probably the reason why. Unfortunately the cheap cables are not wired correctly and do not support all the features.
Post a link to the cable you purchased and we can better determine the cause. Also, what kind of computer do you have? Laptop? Desktop? Proper USB 3.1 drivers installed for the port? Etc.
ka24e said:
Did you buy a cheap cable from Amazon or Ebay, possibly an uncertified cable? If so, that's probably the reason why. Unfortunately the cheap cables are not wired correctly and do not support all the features.
Post a link to the cable you purchased and we can better determine the cause. Also, what kind of computer do you have? Laptop? Desktop? Proper USB 3.1 drivers installed for the port? Etc.
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It's an €20 amazon basics cable.. Asus z170 Pro native Intel 3.1 type C port
Are there different kinds of type-c cable? Or the data transfer of type-c cables are easily destroyed?
d0ct0race said:
Are there different kinds of type-c cable? Or the data transfer of type-c cables are easily destroyed?
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Mh?

No USB 3.0?

I can't seem to get USB 3.0 working on this tablet. I copied 30gb to a 128gb UHS 3 SD card and it copied at 17MB/s (sd card empty)
I don't know why it is so slow!
I am at work so I cannot check the original cable but the first question is "was the cable you used 3.0?", with a blue connector? I actually cannot find out the specifications of the USB port of our tablet, not sure if it supports USB 3.0 but the cable (if I remembered correctly) that came with it is not a blue cable.
alvinlwh said:
I am at work so I cannot check the original cable but the first question is "was the cable you used 3.0?", with a blue connector? I actually cannot find out the specifications of the USB port of our tablet, not sure if it supports USB 3.0 but the cable (if I remembered correctly) that came with it is not a blue cable.
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I think it is USB 3.0 cable, it has a blue end to it (on USB A end) I have another cable somewhere, but I can't find it at the moment.
Those are in line with the speeds I have gotten, over a USB C cable, to a gen 2 port. I don't think it supports faster transfers.
jasonfreeland said:
Those are in line with the speeds I have gotten, over a USB C cable, to a gen 2 port. I don't think it supports faster transfers.
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Personally, I just think that MTP is slow AF compared to MSC. Shame that android had removed MSC support. Pulling the SD out and using a reader seems to be the only fast way these days.
I'm also talking about USB OTG here.
Given that it is a Hi Sillicon Hi 3660, there is a manual for it.
That manual states that it has USB 3.0 OTG support..
https://en.alpha-star.org/docs/hardware-development-for-hikey960/hi3660-user-manual
see page 64..
Also worth noting that MTP is down to the device speed i think, it's odd and sometimes doesn't even max USB 2.0 even on my one plus. (i don't know why, but MTP is bad).
That speed was using USB OTG, which in host mode is supported at Superspeed according to that manual, so the only thing stopping it is software, in theory.
I sent Huawei an email, and they confirmed that it hasn't got USB 3.0
"Thank you for contacting Huawei Support.
The USB specification on the M5 tablet are:
hmm, after thinking about this, the hi 3660 has a USB 3.0 controller built in, and there are two modes, SS at 125MHz and HS at 60MHz, maybe a software update could change this.
I'm doubtful though, as the internal wiring might be different, and probably is.

SuperCharge + SuperSpeed USB-C cable?

Hi,
Does anybody know of a USB-C cable featuring both Huawei SuperCharge and USB 3.0 SuperSpeed data trasfer rate?
I could find only cables with either one or the other feature, not both.
Also the original Huawei cable supplied supports SuperCharge (together with the original Huawei charger) but it's only USB 2.0, with max transfer rate of 480 Mbps (USB Hi-Speed) when connected to a USB 3.0/3.1 port of my desktop PC.
Cheers.
This one on Wish worked for me, but you do need a charger marked 'SuperCharge'
https://www.wish.com/product/5d5e07c7af23c34cb82fc587
Not sure if it's USB 3.0 - how do you tell?
a500user2013 said:
This one on Wish worked for me, but you do need a charger marked 'SuperCharge'
https://www.wish.com/product/5d5e07c7af23c34cb82fc587
Not sure if it's USB 3.0 - how do you tell?
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Well, I have purchased several cables compatible with SuperCharge, but none of them was USB 3.0, just 2.0.
I also have tried many USB C cables that were actually USB 3.0, but none of them was SuperCharge compatible.
So I'm looking for a cable that supports BOTH SuperCharge and USB 3.0 data transfer speed, but I couldn't find any so far.
I started thinking that it is not technically possible to have both features in a single cable, it's probably one or the other due to hardware limitations.
You can tell if it's USB 3.0 when you plug the phone to a USB 3.0 port on your Windows PC.
If the cable is USB 2.0 only, a pop-up saying that "This device can perform faster" will appear and the data transfer speed will be much slower.
I have that: https://www.gearbest.com/chargers-cables/pp_1709066.html?wid=1433363
Working as advertised...
USB3 has blue color in connector, USB2 white...

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