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Hello everyone,
I am getting my rezound Monday and have a few questions, as unlock/root will be first things to do (Not an android newb, but have been away for a while). I have read many threads but haven't found info on these.
1. Using unlockHTC dev will set security to OFF?
2. Can ROMs be flashed via CWM or Amon_RA equally? Or each ROM is different?
3. Best gingerbread bloat reduced ROM?
4. Best kernel?
Thanks! I am sorry if I have missed any of these, but I really did read a lot!!!!
tats_06 said:
Hello everyone,
I am getting my rezound Monday and have a few questions, as unlock/root will be first things to do (Not an android newb, but have been away for a while). I have read many threads but haven't found info on these.
1. Using unlockHTC dev will set security to OFF?
2. Can ROMs be flashed via CWM or Amon_RA equally? Or each ROM is different?
3. Best gingerbread bloat reduced ROM?
4. Best kernel?
Thanks! I am sorry if I have missed any of these, but I really did read a lot!!!!
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1. HTC's unlock tool will only give you an unlocked bootloader, you will still have S-ON unless you're one of the lucky ones who got a S-OFF device, it's unknown if people are still working on getting full S-OFF.
2. Can be flashed either way but Amon RA seems to be the most complete experience currently, might just be me, but using Amon also helps you gain root easily.
3. Probably CleanROM by Scott, somebody double check me on that, I went straight into ICS.
4. There's only the stock kernel right now basically.
There's ICS kernels with ICS ROMs and GB kernels with GB ROMs, learn the difference or you'll get an error, but no custom kernels yet.
Good luck.
1. No. Rezound does not have s-off.
2. Use Amon Ra. CWM is not recommended as it is buggy on this phone. In fact, the thread for it has reportedly disappeared from the dev forum according to a thread in general forum.
3. Personal choice. Each ROM has different features. I'm loving Ineffabilis, I like the tweaks and there's the RedZound Theme made for this ROM that makes it gorgeous especially when coupled with the Red Beats Skin and the icon pack I'm using.
4. I don't know that much about these but I've been trying out dsb without major issues. I'm still working on the CPU settings and trying to improve battery life. ziggy's kernel seems to have issues with bootlooping. And people seem to like Incredikernel.
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I Am Marino said:
4. There's only the stock kernel right now basically.
There's ICS kernels with ICS ROMs and GB kernels with GB ROMs, learn the difference or you'll get an error, but no custom kernels yet.
Good luck.
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There are custom kernels.
ziggy's, dsb, Incredikernel.
1: Answered already.
2: I would recommend AmonRA as everyone else has.
3: Ineffabilis was a pretty good GB ROM. I never had any problems with it.
4: I would recommend IncrediKernel. Never had any problems with it either.
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Wow thanks everyone!!!!
I would love to ride ICS, but I do need reliability so I am going to hold out and do gingerbread for now. I got the rezound after having lg spectrum for like a week and seeing no dev support. Got the lg after being with iphone 4s for a few months and that's all I could tolerate!
I will keep reading. There are so many ROMs which is fantastic but just made the step one harder for me.
ICS is very stable and reliable for the Rezound. Lots of us are using it as their daily driver.
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yea ICS is def stable enough for Daily use dont worry ... i use it all the time with no problems
Awesome!!!! Which ICS would be nice and stable? I don't mind sense but absolutely hate vzw bloat.
I am going to go thru the ROMs...will look at bug reports and stability. Thank you for the help.
If you use bluetooth audio streaming, stay away from the ICS roms, otherwise they are pretty solid.
I would definitely give SenselessROM 1.1 a try. I've installed all of the ROMs that are currently on the development forum and this one is definitely my favorite. The ICS ROMs are nice, but there are some really small things that bugged me about them. Like the previous posters have said though, they are fully functional and can be used for daily use. I just prefer the look of Senseless. It also only uses around 300MB of RAM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1420018
tats_06 said:
Awesome!!!! Which ICS would be nice and stable? I don't mind sense but absolutely hate vzw bloat.
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I'm really liking Senseless-4.0.3-ICS-v1.0.0 by newtoroot. Just read the thread, notably page 40, to make sure you have the correct kernal. I'd also make sure you get the OTA update applied before unlocking and flashing anything.
If you want Sense, Scott's CleanRoms are great, whether the Gingerbread or ICS version.
Mangopositive said:
I'm really liking Senseless-4.0.3-ICS-v1.0.0 by newtoroot. Just read the thread, notably page 40, to make sure you have the correct kernal. I'd also make sure you get the OTA update applied before unlocking and flashing anything.
If you want Sense, Scott's CleanRoms are great, whether the Gingerbread or ICS version.
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Ok, I will read up on that. I just don't want any OTA that will mesa with root.
tats_06 said:
Ok, I will read up on that. I just don't want any OTA that will mesa with root.
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It improves the radio. Root is easy enough to get back.
tats_06 said:
Ok, I will read up on that. I just don't want any OTA that will mesa with root.
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As long as HTC keeps their word about wanting all bootloaders unlocked, you shouldn't have to worry about any OTAs breaking your ability to re-root. And if they did. There would most likely be a huge back-lash from the community.
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It improves the radio. Root is easy enough to get back.
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So it updates the radio...perfect. The one I have coming is brand new, but software is probably a few weeks untouched. Will check. Thank you everyone
I keep seeing all these T-Mobile roms and I am wondering when well see a Mobilicity rom, so mobilicity users won't have to s off and things. They should be able to just root and flash that rom in recovery. Devs, can you make one please? A good one, with beats audio
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Shivammcool said:
I keep seeing all these T-Mobile roms and I am wondering when well see a Mobilicity rom, so mobilicity users won't have to s off and things. They should be able to just root and flash that rom in recovery. Devs, can you make one please? A good one, with beats audio
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Why are you so lazy? The devs work hard on here to develop roms, not to mention the developer of juopnobear had to take his time to discover the hack for s-off. Why can't you take the hour or so needed to obtain s-off? These people develop for me and you for free. Be a little grateful, child. After all, you've likely already thanked your parents for this phone that they bought you. And if they were to develop a Rom, don't be so picky you spoiled child. "a good one with beats".
Trewyy
Just S-Off and SuperCID, you probably won't be seeing Mobilicity ROMs in the future. The whole process actually takes 5-10 minutes, and it's not that difficult to nail it on the first couple of tries...
You don't need s-off to use custom roms, so all of you need to calm down and op you need do some more reading.
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Dark Nightmare said:
You don't need s-off to use custom roms, so all of you need to calm down and op you need do some more reading.
sent from a galaxy you'll never see.
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No, but if they need supercid to use any carrier's rom, they do need s-off for that. If he has a mobilicity phone, he needs s-off.
To the OP, s-off isn't hard, and everything you could ever want to know is in the bible in my signature. S-off is just a matter of time, and I think I remember seeing that hasoon added it to his all in one tool, which may be even easier. Try to do it, and if you have issues I am sure someone here is more than willing to help. As an alternative, you could build your own roms and offer them to the community, we actually already have resources that give a good place to get started. Or, if you just want specific features, research them and add them yourself- beats is one you can easily flash, the mod was recently updated.
Trewyy - I think I have seen more than one post by you that was just plain rude.. we can all get frustrated at other users, but we don't have to go as far as to throw insults calling people lazy and children. The amaze forums have mostly become a place where people give positive and productive feedback, there is no reason you can't help keep up the trend.
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No, but if they need supercid to use any carrier's rom, they do need s-off for that. If he has a mobilicity phone, he needs s-off.
To the OP, s-off isn't hard, and everything you could ever want to know is in the bible in my signature. S-off is just a matter of time, and I think I remember seeing that hasoon added it to his all in one tool, which may be even easier. Try to do it, and if you have issues I am sure someone here is more than willing to help. As an alternative, you could build your own roms and offer them to the community, we actually already have resources that give a good place to get started. Or, if you just want specific features, research them and add them yourself- beats is one you can easily flash, the mod was recently updated.
Trewyy - I think I have seen more than one post by you that was just plain rude.. we can all get frustrated at other users, but we don't have to go as far as to throw insults calling people lazy and children. The amaze forums have mostly become a place where people give positive and productive feedback, there is no reason you can't help keep up the trend.
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You do realise you can flash a custom rom via recovery whether you're super-cid or not right? S-Off isn't hard, but not every one has that little courage they need to do it, custom roms don't require super-cid, only if you wanna switch to another carrier's complete stock rom then you'll need to super-cid and I'm talking via a ruu/ota/exe image file.
And I second the last part of your comment.
Isn't it possible to add custom CIDs on the ROMs you install? I forgot where you would add/change it. In the build.prop maybe?
Something just keeps telling me it's AndroidInfo.txt or something, but I can't find that in many ROMs.
Keylogger_0 said:
Isn't it possible to add custom CIDs on the ROMs you install? I forgot where you would add/change it. In the build.prop maybe?
Something just keeps telling me it's AndroidInfo.txt or something, but I can't find that in many ROMs.
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It's in the build.prop but that's not the only place the CID is stored, it's also stored in the bootloader/hboot file, that you can't change the way you would a build.prop file unless s-off but in the case of custom roms, it doesn't matter, only system files and kernels are being changed, not the entire system, therefore the verification of CID isn't checked or needed.
Shivammcool said:
I keep seeing all these T-Mobile roms and I am wondering when well see a Mobilicity rom, ....
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I'm on Mobilicity and I haven't used any specific roms for them. I'd root and unlock though.
Have you applied any ROMs prior? Be happy to help you along if not.
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Does anyone know if Team Synergy will be making a rom for the Vzw Note 2??
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I loved Synergy on GS3, was my daily driver. Would love to see it here but I doubt it
I wish...
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lol you guys...how many stock based touchwiz roms do we need? you guys realize all these roms are completely stock that have been themed and modded. with a little intuition, those mods can be done yourself. take a stock odin image, place it in dsixdas kitchen, add your mods, package it up, and you now have the same thing posted in 90% of the sgs3 forum.
What is dsixdas???
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Just Googled it.... Now I want to build Roms..... Gonna have to try this.
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Team Synergy put out some sick tweaks for my old HTC devices (sprint). Haven't used them in over a year but would love to see some more action over here whether its "stock" based tweaks or not. They may even dabble in some AOSP. Not sure.
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As droidstyle said, customized stock roms are basically, well - stock based roms with build.prop/init.d tweaks. I like to go back to stock deodexed Verizon rom and debloat/tweak the rom myself because that's where I find the most fun. Custom Touchwiz roms seem to take that fun away from me
Also, search the internet, there's plenty of info on lists of build.prop and init.d tweaks that boost performance and save battery on your phone.
droidstyle said:
lol you guys...how many stock based touchwiz roms do we need? you guys realize all these roms are completely stock that have been themed and modded. with a little intuition, those mods can be done yourself. take a stock odin image, place it in dsixdas kitchen, add your mods, package it up, and you now have the same thing posted in 90% of the sgs3 forum.
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Oh my. A voice of reason!!!!
DroidOnRoids said:
As droidstyle said, customized stock roms are basically, well - stock based roms with build.prop/init.d tweaks. I like to go back to stock deodexed Verizon rom and debloat/tweak the rom myself because that's where I find the most fun. Custom Touchwiz roms seem to take that fun away from me
Also, search the internet, there's plenty of info on lists of build.prop and init.d tweaks that boost performance and save battery on your phone.
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Most of which are snake oil, like a lot of performance tweaks devs claim to put in.
I say we open up a donation thread so we can get Team Synergy on board!! Their roms are sooo bad ass!! LOL Just kidding guys! :silly:
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lol you guys...how many stock based touchwiz roms do we need? you guys realize all these roms are completely stock that have been themed and modded. with a little intuition, those mods can be done yourself. take a stock odin image, place it in dsixdas kitchen, add your mods, package it up, and you now have the same thing posted in 90% of the sgs3 forum.
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As many as possible, it's called variety. I'm busy and I don't want to do the mods myself.... I like donating to devs to do it for me...that's why most of us are here.
Also one of the great things about Synergy for the GS3 was the nightly builds. Again, I didn't have to do the work myself, received nightly updates/tweaks and simply donated to compensate for their time and work.
Personally, I figure the more devs working on the Verizon Note 2 the better regardless of what they use as a base for their ROM.
You can only do so much with a zip rom. Nightly builds are pretty ridiculous for zip roms. If nightly builds actually did something notable, the rom would be completely rewritten from scratch within a month.
It simply doesn't happen and is misleading.
Here is what I have seen from nightly builds of zip roms:
1. Nothing changes from one build to the next.
2. Things are broken, then fixed, broken, then fixed. However, nothing is actually accomplished.
3. Why are we calling them builds? They aren't building crap except maybe an apk or two.
adrynalyne said:
You can only do so much with a zip rom. Nightly builds are pretty ridiculous for zip roms. If nightly builds actually did something notable, the rom would be completely rewritten from scratch within a month.
It simply doesn't happen and is misleading.
Here is what I have seen from nightly builds of zip roms:
1. Nothing changes from one build to the next.
2. Things are broken, then fixed, broken, then fixed. However, nothing is actually accomplished.
3. Why are we calling them builds? They aren't building crap except maybe an apk or two.
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I totally agree with you. I had the GS3 and ran pretty much every ROM available for it while I had it. Nothing against Team Synergy, but their ROM always had some type of issue or another. Which I thought was insane for a stock based ROM.
And then the nightlies started happening and like you said, things would break and then be fixed, etc. I finally just gave up and started running CleanROM and Beans. Both were more stable and to be honest, performed better.
I never got the lovefest for the Synergy ROM on the GS3, but that's just me.
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I also don't have the time to do this myself either. I work 50 odd hours a week and have two kiddos. I also have no idea what I am doing. I would love to learn more about all of this. If someone can put up a link for a good starting point to learn that would be awesome.
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adrynalyne said:
You can only do so much with a zip rom. Nightly builds are pretty ridiculous for zip roms. If nightly builds actually did something notable, the rom would be completely rewritten from scratch within a month.
It simply doesn't happen and is misleading.
Here is what I have seen from nightly builds of zip roms:
1. Nothing changes from one build to the next.
2. Things are broken, then fixed, broken, then fixed. However, nothing is actually accomplished.
3. Why are we calling them builds? They aren't building crap except maybe an apk or two.
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Nobody forces you to download nightlies. I do agree that at some point the nightlies can start doing more harm than good but it's up to the end user to know when it's time to get off the train. I've only ever had good experiences with devs who produce nightlies. If I felt like I was getting a service from nightlies, I donated, if not, I didn't. Simple as that.
Whether you feel forced to download them or not is irrelevant. They are quite pointless.
So if these arguments hold up, there should only be two or three roms per device. Touchwiz (or whatever ui is used by the manufacturer), AOSP or AOKP. Everything else is just tweaks and build prop edits. Not understanding the arguments here. Especially from other devs.
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So if these arguments hold up, there should only be two or three roms per device. Touchwiz (or whatever ui is used by the manufacturer), AOSP or AOKP. Everything else is just tweaks and build prop edits. Not understanding the arguments here. Especially from other devs.
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I haven't looked to see what other devs are saying, but the only thing I said was that nightlies for a zip rom are 100% pointless.
Source built roms are different.
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Whether you feel forced to download them or not is irrelevant. They are quite pointless.
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Maybe to you, but they were far from pointless to myself and many others.
Is there anyway to install or port ROMS from another variant to Spint? I am kinda new to android and wondering how difficult this would be.
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mhutton said:
Is there anyway to install or port ROMS from another variant to Spint? I am kinda new to android and wondering how difficult this would be.
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Definitely will be on board with this idea man! Hopefully some devs point you in the right direction cause other variants like T - Mobile have a crap load of ROMs to choose from! Good luck!
Porting them is entirely possible and shouldn't be all that difficult in the grand scheme of things.
Would definitely start with one fairly close to stock for a first attempt. Avoid kernels ect.
A good way to learn would be to download a rom for a sprint phone and the rom you want to port.
Unzip both.
Copy one file at a time from the other rom to the sprint one.
Flash each time and see the changes.
Or if it doesn't work. You then need to go to the next level and look for difference between 2 files.
Rinse.
Repeat.
It usually ends up easier to build a rom yourself and just port individual features as needed.
You could also check out my rom in the development section minin3.
Would give you a good idea of what files are actually needed to run the phone. (It's been stripped of almost all useless features and bloat. Only the parts needed for everything to work correctly are there. Also has a removed file list and a list of extra files you could remove. I've had a working version under 500mb even.
You may want to remove boot.ing from my rom for testing (modified kernel with oc) though that kernel is for our phones and should be fine.
Should give some ideas anyway.
You'll find some things just work.
Others that hold carrier specifics are a bit more work.
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mjcollum said:
Porting them is entirely possible and shouldn't be all that difficult in the grand scheme of things.
Would definitely start with one fairly close to stock for a first attempt. Avoid kernels ect.
A good way to learn would be to download a rom for a sprint phone and the rom you want to port.
Unzip both.
Copy one file at a time from the other rom to the sprint one.
Flash each time and see the changes.
Or if it doesn't work. You then need to go to the next level and look for difference between 2 files.
Rinse.
Repeat.
It usually ends up easier to build a rom yourself and just port individual features as needed.
You could also check out my rom in the development section minin3.
Would give you a good idea of what files are actually needed to run the phone. (It's been stripped of almost all useless features and bloat. Only the parts needed for everything to work correctly are there. Also has a removed file list and a list of extra files you could remove. I've had a working version under 500mb even.
You may want to remove boot.ing from my rom for testing (modified kernel with oc) though that kernel is for our phones and should be fine.
Should give some ideas anyway.
You'll find some things just work.
Others that hold carrier specifics are a bit more work.
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Thanks mjcollum! Building a ROM seems very challenging but very rewarding at the same time. I am recently back on android for the first time since the original HTC Hero so I have a lot of catching up to do. Can you recommend somewhere where I can learn the basics of building? Also what are the chances that I would hard brick my phone? Kind of expensive to replace.
By the way you b ROM sounds awesome I was waiting for V4 to try it out.
THANKS AGAIN!
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mhutton said:
Thanks mjcollum! Building a ROM seems very challenging but very rewarding at the same time. I am recently back on android for the first time since the original HTC Hero so I have a lot of catching up to do. Can you recommend somewhere where I can learn the basics of building? Also what are the chances that I would hard brick my phone? Kind of expensive to replace.
By the way you b ROM sounds awesome I was waiting for V4 to try it out.
THANKS AGAIN!
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I would recommend looking in the development section at the diy mods.
Try and do things like getting hot spot working by editing the files yourself don't just flash the pre made hack.
There are good instructions there.
And a lot of support.
I don't want to say there's no chance of bricking your phone. Do make sure to make at least one full backup. But the chances of messing something up so bad you can't recover are VERY small. I can't think of anything you could be doing while trying this that could do it.
V4 hopefully out this weekend.
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Well, not a new user of HTC, but root wise, I'm new. I was originally going to covert over but my device soft bricked.
I'm running deoxed stock ATT 4.4.2, s-on (maybe s-off in future, but not now) with root. Didn't know this rom was pre-rooted but ok, bonus I guess after my phone was soft-bricked for 2-3 days. Props to the skydragon and the community for helping me out on my error.
Back to the main point: any root apps you guys recommend? Haven't been on the rooted side of things in 1-3 years, kind of worried that some apps that were useful, aren't so much because of dropped support (ie: setcpu). I remember xposed being brand new when I left the rooted scene for a new phone.
Thanks for the help in advance.
Try Titanium Backup, and Better Battery Stats.
Xposed is in fact pretty powerful, with some nice modules. In particular the Sense Toolbox. But it can be a bit finicky.
Titanium is a must, IMO.
Adaway and similar ad-killers are also nice to have. You won't find them on the Play Store anymore, but can get the direct from the developers.
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Xposed is in fact pretty powerful, with some nice modules. In particular the Sense Toolbox. But it can be a bit finicky.
Titanium is a must, IMO.
Adaway and similar ad-killers are also nice to have. You won't find them on the Play Store anymore, but can get the direct from the developers.
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Just got Titanium and Sense Toolbox. Very nice. And do the ad killers work on in-app ads?
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And do the ad killers work on in-app ads?
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Yup. That is the main purpose. Might not work for every app with ads, but certainly works on many of them.
You can get Adaway from here, https://f-droid.org/. You'll need to download, and install the .apk. in order to install the .apk, you will need to enable Unknown sources in the Security tab in settings.
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You can get Adaway from here, https://f-droid.org/. You'll need to download, and install the .apk. in order to install the .apk, you will need to enable Unknown sources in the Security tab in settings.
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Seems good to me. Thanks.
Xposed enables some powerful mods, but most of the mods I tried did not work on a stock rooted AT&T M8 One, and even fewer have worked on it with the Wonders_Never_Cease ROM. For example, the Exchange Security Bypass doesn't work with stock, and the HTC Tweaker doesn't work with the newer ROM.
Of course that's not a problem with XPosed; more that the mods themselves are very specific to the ROM their running on, so matching them all is way beyond most hobby developers. Just be aware that most mods will not work; you just have to try and hope.
If so unpleased with "mods" not working,find the correct builds they were made for and use it or flash a specialised tweaked build that gives you what you want...In very first post of thread it states if your wanting mods etc to not even bother flashing,no need to point out a specific rom or developer in any posts.Have a good day.
Wotta said:
Xposed enables some powerful mods, but most of the mods I tried did not work on a stock rooted AT&T M8 One, and even fewer have worked on it with the Wonders_Never_Cease ROM. For example, the Exchange Security Bypass doesn't work with stock, and the HTC Tweaker doesn't work with the newer ROM.
Of course that's not a problem with XPosed; more that the mods themselves are very specific to the ROM their running on, so matching them all is way beyond most hobby developers. Just be aware that most mods will not work; you just have to try and hope.
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If so unpleased with "mods" not working,find the correct builds they were made for and use it or flash a specialised tweaked build that gives you what you want...In very first post of thread it states if your wanting mods etc to not even bother flashing,no need to point out a specific rom or developer in any posts.Have a good day.
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Wow, sensitive enough? I didn't say I was displeased and I certainly didn't blame the ROM or the dev (you.) I even sent you money a few weeks ago. I was merely pointing out that the mods are extremely version specific.
Not sensative at all, I dont point [email protected] any roms/devs...just asked another of the users not to point fingers as well(can check posts...lol) has nothing to do with being sensative,just a common respect I try to keep towards other devs and thier work,No worries....:good:
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Wow, sensitive enough? I didn't say I was displeased and I certainly didn't blame the ROM or the dev (you.) I even sent you money a few weeks ago. I was merely pointing out that the mods are extremely version specific.
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