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I researched about the matter, and reached some conclusions:
- I don't want to use the TEST POINTER method, I really don't care about OTA updates or Track ID app (as far as I know there are no more consequences), Shazam and Soundhound do the same
- I would like to unlock the bootloader in some manner that, if I need to relock the warranty will still be valid (same goes for root, but I guess flashing an original firmware unroots the device)
That said, found the official instructions to unlock the BL, but still have the main question: is it the procedure completely reversible? Also, is it free?
Thanks in advance. Also really appreciate if someone corrects something wrong I said.
Maxxd01 said:
I researched about the matter, and reached some conclusions:
- I don't want to use the TEST POINTER method, I really don't care about OTA updates or Track ID app (as far as I know there are no more consequences), Shazam and Soundhound do the same
- I would like to unlock the bootloader in some manner that, if I need to relock the warranty will still be valid (same goes for root, but I guess flashing an original firmware unroots the device)
That said, found the official instructions to unlock the BL, but still have the main question: is it the procedure completely reversible? Also, is it free?
Thanks in advance. Also really appreciate if someone corrects something wrong I said.
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you can still relock your bootloader and receive official sony updates, but the problem is, you loose DRM(in which if sony finds out, you still lose warranty).
i found this thread and said that DRM cannot be restored :/
I don't know about non free relocking if it will be able to restore DRM though.
oh and by the way, this thread provides the easiest way to unlock and relock your bootloader for free.
goodluck and enjoy
DRM cannot be restored at all.
Install TrackID from market and it will work.
Bootloader can be relocked, doesn't matter how you unlocked.
And yes, it is free.
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Someguyfromhell said:
DRM cannot be restored at all.
Install TrackID from market and it will work.
Bootloader can be relocked, doesn't matter how you unlocked.
And yes, it is free.
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Ok, so I suppose the DRM Keys only affect the OTA updates (how should we care if we are unlocking BL for custom ROMs
So, I suppose if I have a problem on my Live (but it still turns on), I apply an OFW and then relock it, it's a matter of luck if the techical assistance is going to check if the DRM is still valid or not.
What method do you advice to unlock the BL?
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Ok, so I suppose the DRM Keys only affect the OTA updates (how should we care if we are unlocking BL for custom ROMs
So, I suppose if I have a problem on my Live (but it still turns on), I apply an OFW and then relock it, it's a matter of luck if the techical assistance is going to check if the DRM is still valid or not.
What method do you advice to unlock the BL?
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Method, pick which is better for you. I used official method, no messing with cables.
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Unlock it the way you prefer to it does not matter it will lose warranty any way it is just luck if they will check it or not at the service center. Any way it is really hard to completely brick your phone unless you don't know what you are doing. The main difference is with the test point method you are able to update using seus without problems and it looks more complicated than it really is I only used a clip
just a question about unlocking thru official method.
since you would have to get the unlock key directly from Sony.
would they be able to track your phone since you will be giving them some details like your name, IMEI, email etc. to get the unlock code?
do the service centers have access to that database?
There are no Sony Mobile Service Centers, phones need to be taken back to shop and they use service of specific mobile repair shop.
Depending on what reason you need to take it back, they might want to check it or not. No one has so far done this, so we have no information.
What is DRM and Track ID ?
I want to unlock bootloader my phone, but I am still confused, what is the risk of a official bootloader from sony ? What is DRM and Track ID ? what is its usefulness for wt19i?
sorry my english is not good
dianfajar said:
I want to unlock bootloader my phone, but I am still confused, what is the risk of a official bootloader from sony ? What is DRM and Track ID ? what is its usefulness for wt19i?
sorry my english is not good
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There is no risk either way the difference is that with the official method you will lose your drm (Digital rights management) and the official support of track id (the app from se that you use to search for the info of a song playing in the radio or the tv etc.) meanwhile using the test point method you will not lose them. If you want to install a custom rom like cm9 or miui you need to unlock your bootloader to be able to flash the custom kernels those roms need.
can you save DRM with CWM backup before unlocking bootloader?
manilu001 said:
can you save DRM with CWM backup before unlocking bootloader?
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Nope, DRM is not saved in CWM backup.
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Thanks in advance for all helpfull answers.
I just want to understand the following. Some Live's come with "unlock bootloader allowed"="no" others ="yes". What does that means and more important: what are the implications?
I cannot understand the difference because as fair as I understand right now, all live's (branded/sim unlocked or not) are unlockable (referring to bootloader).
Maxxd01 said:
Thanks in advance for all helpfull answers.
I just want to understand the following. Some Live's come with "unlock bootloader allowed"="no" others ="yes". What does that means and more important: what are the implications?
I cannot understand the difference because as fair as I understand right now, all live's (branded/sim unlocked or not) are unlockable (referring to bootloader).
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When they come with boot loader unlock : no it is a branded sim locked phone in which case you can unlock bootloader but you will have no access to fastboot meaning you are unable to flash a custom kernel, also there will be no way you can officially unlock the bootloader so will have to use the test point method and of course you will need to pay to fully unlock your phone to be able to access fastboot and flash custom kernels.
Did I miss something??
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When they come with boot loader unlock : no it is a branded sim locked phone in which case you can unlock bootloader but you will have no access to fastboot meaning you are unable to flash a custom kernel, also there will be no way you can officially unlock the bootloader so will have to use the test point method and of course you will need to pay to fully unlock your phone to be able to access fastboot and flash custom kernels.
Did I miss something??
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So, for sim locked branded phones ("no")
- To unlock the bootloader: test point method
- Access fastboot: use (and pay) through wotan server
Am I right? I never though that was two different problems.
Maxxd01 said:
So, for sim locked branded phones ("no")
- To unlock the bootloader: test point method
- Access fastboot: use (and pay) through wotan server
Am I right? I never though that was two different problems.
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I'm not really sure about Wotan server however I'm pretty sure about setool and omnius and if you are willing to pay the phone will be fully unlocked (bootloader, sim and fastboot) with one procedure using the test point method.
ginryu said:
When they come with boot loader unlock : no it is a branded sim locked phone in which case you can unlock bootloader but you will have no access to fastboot meaning you are unable to flash a custom kernel, also there will be no way you can officially unlock the bootloader so will have to use the test point method and of course you will need to pay to fully unlock your phone to be able to access fastboot and flash custom kernels.
Did I miss something??
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So, I'm curious, if I have branded sim lock Live ("no" bootloader) can I install an original firmware without using an official channel? Do I need fastboot access?
I'm asking because I'm almost sure that my carrier will not update the Live to 4.0, so I suppose I have to use some other tool in order to install it.
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So, I'm curious, if I have branded sim lock Live ("no" bootloader) can I install an original firmware without using an official channel? Do I need fastboot access?
I'm asking because I'm almost sure that my carrier will not update the Live to 4.0, so I suppose I have to use some other tool in order to install it.
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you can debrand (install a generic firmware) your phone using wotan server for free and as i know it will also change your product code so next time and official sony update is available your phone will get it.
thancks! its helps...
another noob question from me
can i relock BL from test point method?
n do i have to flash stock kernel before relock?
i'm using rage kernel right now.
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Hi guys (=
I unlocked my bootloader via testpoint. It's clear to me that I can't do OTA updates now (afaik, I'd appreciate opposing information). But is it still possible to update via SUS/PCC. In my opinion with official unlock, it's impossible to do a repair/update via SUS/PCC (denied by program in advance). But with testpoint-unlocked bootloader I'm given the possibility to do a repair. Can I do it without any danger for my phone?
So long,
mar_sss
mar_sss said:
But with testpoint-unlocked bootloader I'm given the possibility to do a repair. Can I do it without any danger for my phone?
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Yes.
But no OTA update, right?
i update 4.04 through OTA...but not successfull.i have to relock bootloader and unlock again with test point...
mar_sss said:
But no OTA update, right?
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Unlocked bootloader by test point not affect any updades! If you not delete or replace any system file, OTA update should be right!
mar_sss said:
But no OTA update, right?
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Better not try.
Lietotajs said:
Unlocked bootloader by test point not affect any updades! If you not delete or replace any system file, OTA update should be right!
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Actually, I'm not 100% sure in that. Some users reported problems.
I didn't try as I never seen a need for ota, have you tried it?
didn't try it. no need till now, because I unlocked with testpoint and installed/rooted .432
i was testpoint unlocked but then i needed alot of relocking and unlocking for testing stuff so testpoing procedure became so damn boring. bite the dust and did the official unlock, now relock/unlock is fast and easy.
official way unlock -> relock -> OTA. no brick. thats how i got from 4.0.3 to 4.0.4
all i lost is DRM (and warranty ofc ..), but havent seen any situation that i need DRM in first place.
pirate mp3's yar yar
Gjole86 said:
i was testpoint unlocked but then i needed alot of relocking and unlocking for testing stuff so testpoing procedure became so damn boring.
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May I ask what could be the reason to relock BL?
Except OTA. But then again, OTA is kinda useless, IMHO.
Madfysh said:
May I ask what could be the reason to relock BL?
Except OTA. But then again, OTA is kinda useless, IMHO.
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i had this funky stuff when i flash tft it wont boot. it ended in bootloop or just stuck on SE writing. did a relock and it went on. have no idea why is that but i took it as "dont fix if its not broken"
yeah logic says lock BL-> stock kernels only. unlock BL -> all kernels.
makes no sence i know just the way things work arround here. same as the wifi crap i have on ICS, so few other ppl have the same thing.
Hi everyone, i 'm going to be concise. I own an HTC onex+ international version (it should be no brand) and i would like to unroot it and reset to factory for a warranty issue. I'm extremely noob so i would like, if it's possibile, the fastest, easyest and safest way to do so.
On internet i found several guides about it as http://onexroot.com/one-x-unroot/how-to-unroot-rooted-htc-one-x/ or http://theunlockr.com/2012/12/28/how-to-unroot-the-htc-one-x-2/ BUT i found also an xda tool http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1870652&nocache=1 that sounds appropriate to me; i read on other forum that i need some kind of extra instrument like boot.img
There are some things to take note of. The boot.img and HBoot image flashing requires users to get their own files as those are device specific and aren’t included
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actually i have no idea where get it and how use it. I would be very gratefull if some of you could explain to me step by step how to do the unroot.
ps. i just rooted and put inside the cmw under the instruction of friend of mine but i don't really understand how i did it.
thank you in advance.
relock bootloader and install RUU and you are back on Stock
but would you be back on stock for a warranty issue, you didn't must do that.
warranty has nothing to do with your firmware or root or bootloader unlock.
they would be erase all at your phone and flash the RUU
skdubg said:
relock bootloader and install RUU and you are back on Stock
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thank you for your reply but the problem is that actually i don't know how to relock booloader and what RUU is; that's why i was lokking for a step by step guide. I may follow and understand a little the guide of before but i'm not safe that it works with htc onec+ too.
but would you be back on stock for a warranty issue, you didn't must do that.
warranty has nothing to do with your firmware or root or bootloader unlock.
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really? i belived that an "unlocked" phone was an enough reason to invalidate the warranty isn't it?
kadakar said:
really? i belived that an "unlocked" phone was an enough reason to invalidate the warranty isn't it?
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if you dont touch the bootloader it says: LOCKED
if you unlocked bootloader it says: UNLOCKED
if you relocked bootloader it says: RELOCKED
we can never go back to LOCKED (RELOCKED is technical the same like LOCKED, but it shows as RELOCKED) all people can see that the bootloader was touched by the user
so it cant the reason for that
to relock:
boot into bootloader
and execute this command in fastboot:
fastboot oem lock
now you can install your latest RUU (RUU is the Stock Firmware from HTC as *.exe to install from Windows [depends on your CID])
Hi.
I have some problems with my mini jack. When I plug headphones it sometimes work sometimes not. I think it is messed up. Phone still has waranity, so maybe they fix it.
My question is:
What I have to do before I leave my phone in service center?
Do I have to relock my bootloader or just flash stock ICS?
will they check software if phone has hardware problem?
Thanks in advance!
Cheers
Cwikla
You should relock the bootloader and restore drm keys of possible.
Relocking bootloader is a must as it is the first thing they check.
Relocking the bl should be enough but sometimes sony checks more deeper for the drm keys. So if you have backed up then restore your TA.
And you should flash the latest stock firmware.
They must probably will check bootloader status.
When my touchscreen wasnt working correctly, i just flashed ICS and relocked bootloader without restoring drm keys (i didnt backed it up when i unlocked). Apearrently they didn't checked the software and just sent me a new phone.
If you just relock the bootloader they can check the drm keys and will know you unlocked it before. But I don't see a reason why they will remove your warranty because of that, giving the fact that nothing software-wise can screw your headphone jack.
@Twski
Depends on the employee who checks your phone. If he checks for drm keys then he knows that you unblocked your bootloader and your warranty is void.
But mostly they just check the bootloader status like they did last time.
And unlocking the bootloader will void the warranty no matter what the problem is. While unlocking the bootloader they clearly told you that.
Hamza Murad said:
You should relock the bootloader and restore drm keys of possible.
Relocking bootloader is a must as it is the first thing they check.
Relocking the bl should be enough but sometimes sony checks more deeper for the drm keys. So if you have backed up then restore your TA.
And you should flash the latest stock firmware.
They must probably will check bootloader status.
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Twski said:
When my touchscreen wasnt working correctly, i just flashed ICS and relocked bootloader without restoring drm keys (i didnt backed it up when i unlocked). Apearrently they didn't checked the software and just sent me a new phone.
If you just relock the bootloader they can check the drm keys and will know you unlocked it before. But I don't see a reason why they will remove your warranty because of that, giving the fact that nothing software-wise can screw your headphone jack.
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Hamza Murad said:
@Twski
Depends on the employee who checks your phone. If he checks for drm keys then he knows that you unblocked your bootloader and your warranty is void.
But mostly they just check the bootloader status like they did last time.
And unlocking the bootloader will void the warranty no matter what the problem is. While unlocking the bootloader they clearly told you that.
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Thank you guys for reply!
I will relock bootloader, flash latest stock and go to sony service.
Edit: And if I want to unlock it again after it return to me, the procedure is the same like 1st time unlocking?
Yes.
I have unlocked the bootloader and now i found that there are ways to root to root phone without unlocking the bootloader is it possible to relock the bootloader without losing any phone capabilities.
If you've already unlocked there's absolutely no point in relocking it, you get more freedom and benefit more from an unlocked bootloader eg custom kernels and roms
i just want to know what is the way and suppose i want to give them for warranty repair so i should be prepared lol
Amritttt said:
i just want to know what is the way and suppose i want to give them for warranty repair so i should be prepared lol
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If you used TA backup after rooting and BEFORE unlocking, you can return the phone to a fully LOCKED state as if you had never unlocked it.
If you didn't do a TA backup, you can only relock it and thus the reseller/repair centre know what you did.
i never made any TA backup it wasn't available that time there was no root that time without unlocking it.
Amritttt said:
i never made any TA backup it wasn't available that time there was no root that time without unlocking it.
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Then you can't return to completely stock. The relocked notice will give you away.
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Then you can't return to completely stock. The relocked notice will give you away.
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Look at Xperiafirmware.com -> "Sony XPERIA Z2 D6503 - Android 4.4.2 - firmware 17.1.2.A.0.314". There is a solution to re-lock the bootloader.