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I need some help with some Nav on my Flyer. It seems there are three (3) to choose from, Car Panel, Locations and Google Maps. I know that Google Maps requires internet connection but not sure if Car Panel or Location requires it. I am not sure if I have a busted Flyer or I am just not using it correctly.
It also seems that in Car Panel when I click on Get More and try to download US- Northeast Map it takes forever. Anyone else having these issues?
Car Panel is just an interface really... not a navigation program. It can use either HTC Locations or Google Maps.
Google Maps (Navigation) is free, but requires a data connection
HTC Locations will do offline Navigation from what I've heard but it is not free.
If you think it is taking forever to download, keep it mind it is about 900MB to download.. make take awhile. Plus the HTC server's have been pretty slow lately since most of it is still Beta.
Hi,
recently I tried out Sygic which works really nice except for one thing:
when Sygic is running in background after a while (seems randomly) the GPS message disappears (upper message in attached pic), the Sygic message remains (lower message in attached pic).
When I click the Sygic message, the app behaves as if I restarted it (says "initializing" on top right). Luckily, it remembers the old route.
Yet sometimes I don't drive myself and would like to do other stuff and have Sygic tracking in the background.
It works fine with Google maps.Yet not with Sygic. Especially when I launch any other app (even the browser, a video or something), Sygic stops tracking immediately (not always but often) or some time later.
GPS is set to never turn off in Sygic and all settings are set to "optimal".
Could that be the Android OS turning something off for Sygic as it might believe it's no longer used or something?
Sygic is more sophisticated than Google maps and uses more ram. If you start opening other apps after Sygic then they will get higher priority in ram. Sygic doesn't really stop so much as get pushed out of memory until it gets switched to again. Not much you can do about it really.
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Ah that explains the issue, already feared something like that.
The only annoying part is that it no longer tells me where to go when that happens.
Does anyone know whether this happens with other apps such as Navigon as well?
Since the newest update (at least I didn't notice it before) Sygic has an option "Run navigation in back..." under Battery management.
Haven't tested it yet but that supposedly sets the oom_adj values low enough for the app not to get killed.
Ah thanks, that is new indeed.
Yet I tried this and eventually the same thing happens sooner or later. :/
Open Sygic.... go to SETTINGS than go to BATTERY MANAGEMENT (i don't know witch is the correct option in english as my SYGIC is in ITALIAN)... the first setting that is show to you is the opportunity to deactivate the GPS signal after a definite time.... change it!
Yeah that option is now replaced, you can only check/uncheck it. I checked it so it keeps running in background but still shuts off after a while when using other apps.
You're right. I have the same problem. This is ridiculous. You are running navigation and expect it to give you the directions at the right moment, but you don't know that in the meantime, while you got a phone call and checked your messages it was turned off silently and no longer working.
Without an option to guarantee it's working and can't be stopped in the background, you're as if you have no navigation at all.
If this can not be fixed it's better not to even install Sygic, cause this takes away a major part of what this app is meant to do. So stupid.
I have tried Igo and it was the same. How serious is that?! To have a navigation, which can stop while you're using it and need it, without warning!
Did anybody find a solution to this?
Not really.
Either simply leave Sygic running in foreground / don't leave it running in background for a while or use a different app.
After I purchased it I also noticed some other annoying issues, e.g. voice says "take exit number 24" instead of how we navigate here "take next exit to A2" (our motorway navvigation signs do not show the exit numbers anyway), forcing me to look at the app way more often when there is an exit leading to 2 different motorways.
Due to such issues as well as this annoying "I die if you leave me running in background" I decided to switch to Navigon. Nicely, this app even tells you which motorway to take AND where it leads to, so I don't even need to look at it.
I haven't run a full test yet. Yet I left a video running in full screen and Navigon kept running in background navigating. Once I know more, I report back (if I don't forget). In any case, I wished I didn't have spent the money for Sygic after all. What do free map updates any good when the app isn't suiting oneself.
P.S.: I did inform Sygic support about the background issue and they requested more information as they didn't experience this issue yet. I provided that but didn't get another reply, the thread was then archived.
Landorin said:
Not really.
Either simply leave Sygic running in foreground / don't leave it running in background for a while or use a different app.
After I purchased it I also noticed some other annoying issues, e.g. voice says "take exit number 24" instead of how we navigate here "take next exit to A2" (our motorway navvigation signs do not show the exit numbers anyway), forcing me to look at the app way more often when there is an exit leading to 2 different motorways.
Due to such issues as well as this annoying "I die if you leave me running in background" I decided to switch to Navigon. Nicely, this app even tells you which motorway to take AND where it leads to, so I don't even need to look at it.
I haven't run a full test yet. Yet I left a video running in full screen and Navigon kept running in background navigating. Once I know more, I report back (if I don't forget). In any case, I wished I didn't have spent the money for Sygic after all. What do free map updates any good when the app isn't suiting oneself.
P.S.: I did inform Sygic support about the background issue and they requested more information as they didn't experience this issue yet. I provided that but didn't get another reply, the thread was then archived.
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I agree with you also for the way Sygic works. It's s not that great. Thanks for sharing about Navigon. Please, test it and post here if the situation with "silent background death" is the same. I would appreciate it if you let me know and will be checking to see how you feel about it when you post your comments.
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I agree with you also for the way Sygic works. It's s not that great. Thanks for sharing about Navigon. Please, test it and post here if the situation with "silent background death" is the same. I would appreciate it if you let me know and will be checking to see how you feel about it when you post your comments.
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I have been using Sygic for quite a long time and noticed that on my Galaxy Captivate, after initialization, if you switch to some other app then return to Sygic (either from the app icon, or from the task bar) it always restart.
However on my Galaxy S3 after switch back to Sygic it just continues wherever it left off. I guess that my Captivate had less memory to run Sygic while I have plenty on the S3.
Also in Sygic, go to Settings / Notifications and Sounds / Advanced and turn "Sound always on" would let Sygic to continue to turn-by-turn announcement even if it is not in the foreground, even when the screen is off.
I have plenty of free memory (using HTC one x) and still it's killed. But this is not a problem of sygic. it's a problem of Android. Or may be indrrd sygic didn't make the right settings for the memory registration of this app (if that's something that they could do). As I see the oom values of this app are pretty high usually when I check.
Also about the voice: I have this option checked. But I never had an occasion when it spoke to me when it was killed. I'll check again. May be I didn't notice it...
Thanks for your comment on that. I'm surely going to test this.
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I have plenty of free memory (using HTC one x) and still it's killed. But this is not a problem of sygic. it's a problem of Android. Or may be indrrd sygic didn't make the right settings for the memory registration of this app (if that's something that they could do). As I see the oom values of this app are pretty high usually when I check.
Also about the voice: I have this option checked. But I never had an occasion when it spoke to me when it was killed. I'll check again. May be I didn't notice it...
Thanks for your comment on that. I'm surely going to test this.
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You probably you haven't set the option to switch off GPS after a certain amount of time. Go to Settings /Battery management / Switch GPS off after... then move the slider until you see "never".
pentel1954 said:
You probably you haven't set the option to switch off GPS after a certain amount of time. Go to Settings /Battery management / Switch GPS off after... then move the slider until you see "never".
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Thanks for trying to help. This option is set properly to "never" with me.
Hey all,
sorry for the late reply.
Sad news: Navigon dies in background as well. Just like Sygic, it doesn't always happen. But once you start using other apps actively it will eventually kill Sygic and Navigon silently. As someone already pointed out, it's likely an issue due to how Android works.
I had the relevant options ticked to never disable GPS or anything and it made no difference.
So you can use another app but you can't actively use your smartphone, e.g. I can have Poweramp run in foreground and switch tracks without Navigon dying (it also keeps talking to me via voice, even when the screen is turned off). But if you're not the driver and want to do more than just that then you'd need a second device or so.
Cheers,
Landorin
P.S.: at least now I could test both apps and personally, I'll stick with Navigon. Navigation by voice is so well developed that I don't need to look at the app while driving and if I do look at it, track assistant is better developed too (it shows you the motorway signs). With the app "Directory Bind" I was also able to move the whole big app + maps onto the external SD card.
Hopefully, the Sygic devs will listen to the community feedback and catch up in development over time.
Landorin said:
Hey all,
sorry for the late reply.
Sad news: Navigon dies in background as well. Just like Sygic, it doesn't always happen. But once you start using other apps actively it will eventually kill Sygic and Navigon silently. As someone already pointed out, it's likely an issue due to how Android works.
I had the relevant options ticked to never disable GPS or anything and it made no difference.
So you can use another app but you can't actively use your smartphone, e.g. I can have Poweramp run in foreground and switch tracks without Navigon dying (it also keeps talking to me via voice, even when the screen is turned off). But if you're not the driver and want to do more than just that then you'd need a second device or so.
Cheers,
Landorin
P.S.: at least now I could test both apps and personally, I'll stick with Navigon. Navigation by voice is so well developed that I don't need to look at the app while driving and if I do look at it, track assistant is better developed too (it shows you the motorway signs). With the app "Directory Bind" I was also able to move the whole big app + maps onto the external SD card.
Hopefully, the Sygic devs will listen to the community feedback and catch up in development over time.
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Thanks for this elaborate report. It will be useful for many.
And yes, the navigation soft producers must make some conclusions.
If I find a good way to protect an app from being killed, I'll post it here.
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Is anyone having issues with the Google Now notifications? On my last phone, I would get notifications for flights, and games on days my teams are playing.
one the HOX+ I have everything configured the same way, but I don't get the notifications. I only see the info if I launch google now/search.
Did you try rebooting the phone. I posted an issue I have seen that location services does not seem to activate properly all the time if you turn it off and on. If you reboot the phone it should ask to accept Google location services immediately click accept and it should work.
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Is anyone having issues with the Google Now notifications? On my last phone, I would get notifications for flights, and games on days my teams are playing.
one the HOX+ I have everything configured the same way, but I don't get the notifications. I only see the info if I launch google now/search.
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Were you previously on ICS? On JB certain notifications "hide" till you pull down the notification bar. Things like weather and traffic typically aren't visible at the top till you pull notifications down. But I remember when using the "massaged" Google Now app on ICS, they would appear up at the top. For a while after upgrading to JB on my Inspire I thought something was broken, but it turned out it's normal for some notifications to not be visible at the top all the time.
No idea if this describes your problem, but if you came from ICS to JB, there are a few changes to how the app operates.
I didn't know google now was available on ICS... In my case, it's always been on JB.
On my last phone, I would get a notification in the morning of the day that any sports team I configured is playing. It would say which team is playing, and what time the game in the local time zone of wherever I am...I don't get that on the HOX+ unless I open the google app
For a couple weeks now after I navigate to somewhere and then end navigation, the application opens again randomly and tries to resume navigation. I have tried to clear it out of the recent apps list as well as force closing the app. After a force it will not reopen until I start the maps application again. Once the maps app is opened it will resume randomly opening.
I am on the Nexus 6p, running 7.1.1 with the January patches. This problem also happened with the December patches.
Maps Version 9.44.3
It just started happening to me this morning. I'm on the 5X and the latest patch. Damn this is really annoying. Any ideas?
hideous said:
For a couple weeks now after I navigate to somewhere and then end navigation, the application opens again randomly and tries to resume navigation. I have tried to clear it out of the recent apps list as well as force closing the app. After a force it will not reopen until I start the maps application again. Once the maps app is opened it will resume randomly opening.
I am on the Nexus 6p, running 7.1.1 with the January patches. This problem also happened with the December patches.
Maps Version 9.44.3
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Install task killer app from play store
In app, go to settings>ignored apps
Add all apps to ignore list except google maps
Now again go to settings>auto kill
And set it to 15 sec
Done
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Regards milkyway3
Same thing here on a 6p but marshmallow. Driving me a little nuts
Been noticing the same thing for the last few days or so.
*me too*
On Nexus 5 marshmallow. Noticed it for the past 2-3 days or so.
same problem on Nexus 6p
same here on nexus 6p. It is starting to get unusable as it starts shouting directions from my pocket randomnly or it boots me from whatever app I am using on the phone.
Same issue here on a Nexus 5 with 6.0.1. I think it started when I used Google Now to start navigating.
Moto X (2013)
I'm having the same problem on my Moto X (2013) Developer Edition (and rooted) with the Resurrection Remix ROM. It's been happening for about a week now. It seems to be completely random as to when it starts up.
-Troy
Yeah this happens for me too, on Nexus 6P on 7.1.1.
I'm wondering if it's really a Google Now issue though as I use voice actions to start navigation a lot, and the random navigations all seem to repeat the last voice navigation. Maybe Google Now sends the previous navigation intent to Google Maps.
I'm using beta version of the Google app.
Do other people here use Google Now to start navigation?
Same issue for a few weeks here on my Galaxy S7. I reboot and it goes away for a few days, but keeps coming back.
I agree that it seems to be voice search. I'm not 100%, but I've had a suspicion.
Also using Google Now Launcher.
jameschao said:
Yeah this happens for me too, on Nexus 6P on 7.1.1.
I'm wondering if it's really a Google Now issue though as I use voice actions to start navigation a lot, and the random navigations all seem to repeat the last voice navigation. Maybe Google Now sends the previous navigation intent to Google Maps.
I'm using beta version of the Google app.
Do other people here use Google Now to start navigation?
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Good call, this makes sense. I use Google Now Launcher as well.
TaoTeShaun said:
Same issue for a few weeks here on my Galaxy S7. I reboot and it goes away for a few days, but keeps coming back.
I agree that it seems to be voice search. I'm not 100%, but I've had a suspicion.
Also using Google Now Launcher.
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Ermagherd this is SO annoying. I also use voice navigation a lot. OnePlus 3 here .
Me too, Moto X, been doing it a couple of weeks. My phone will be sitting on the desk next to me with its screen off and suddenly it's trying to tell me how to get to the last page I navigated to.. often wherever I already am.. I use Google now all the time, will keep an eye on if that makes a difference..
It might well be the Google now launcher thing.
I had it launch on its own again after ending a navigation that I had started with 'ok Google'.
It launched itself again.
Then I stopped the navigation, and did the task switcher thing and swiped to close the Google now window as well. After that it didn't launch again.
That was just one try. So no real confirmation. But maybe this can be a workaround until this is fixed.
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Same thing (maps entering navigation mode at random times) has recently started happening to me. Really frustrating.
Like suggested by JamesChao, I always start navigating using voice.
It's definitely an issue with Google Now voice search. Rather than killing a process, you can temporarily resolve this issue by either performing another voice search, or clicking the Google Now search bar on your homescreen and performing any other search. Obviously the issue will return next time you do another "Navigate" voice command.
Moto X 2015 latest updates checking in, same issue, i concur that its a Google Now issue.
Same - LG G4 Android 6.0
I have the same issue and have for about the last month.
Metamyr said:
Rather than killing a process, you can temporarily resolve this issue by either performing another voice search, or clicking the Google Now search bar on your homescreen and performing any other search.
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Same problem here, nexus 5x. See that there's a software update, hopefully this'll fix te problem. Solution mentioned above seems to be working for now, but still annoying.
I have a Samsung Galaxy Tablet S2 running Android 6.0. Recently I noticed that whenever I come out of the lock screen, after the device has been left alone for a few minutes, that google maps has launched. I am not sure how to figure out what other app might be calling maps, as I doubt if it is launching itself. Is there a way of determining what app is calling maps, or if it is in fact launching itself. I don't remember making any changes to the system settings or downloading anything that would call the app. This is very annoying having to close out of maps each time I come out of the lock screen.
Same thing happening on my Note 3. Perhaps a bug in the latest update?