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I rooted my phone with towelroot. I want twrp but I don't have a computer readily available. I've been looking around if I can flash twrp another way without tripping KNOX or bricking, but I have yet to find a reliable solution. Anyone have any suggestions, solutions, or ideas?
ahrion said:
I rooted my phone with towelroot. I want twrp but I don't have a computer readily available. I've been looking around if I can flash twrp another way without tripping KNOX or bricking, but I have yet to find a reliable solution. Anyone have any suggestions, solutions, or ideas?
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you might be able to install twrp without tripping knox. but if you use it you will most likely trip knox. custom recoveries , kernels and roms all will trip knox and void your warranty. at least with towelroot you can make plenty of modifications. and keep your warranty intact in case you need it in the future/
ahrion said:
I rooted my phone with towelroot. I want twrp but I don't have a computer readily available. I've been looking around if I can flash twrp another way without tripping KNOX or bricking, but I have yet to find a reliable solution. Anyone have any suggestions, solutions, or ideas?
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No, flashing a custom recovery WILL trip knox. What do you need that requires a custom recovery? Most mods can just be manually pushed to the proper location without a custom recovery.
I don't really know about tripping knox but you can install twrp through there app from the play store
Been researching into this issue as well. There must be a way around this because on my old AT&T S5, I tried out Alliance Rom via Safestrap and it never seemed to trip knox as far as I could tell. Knox counter was 0x0 when I got rid of that phone. I may hold off and put TWRP when I pay off the EIP on the phone which should be in a few months.
So basically if you towel rooted your device and installed twrp and you tripped Knox there's no way to reverse backup and untripped Knox putting it back to 0x0 is there?
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xda23 said:
So basically if you towel rooted your device and installed twrp and you tripped Knox there's no way to reverse backup and untripped Knox putting it back to 0x0 is there?
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Towel root will not trip knox. Only custom recoveries and custom rom and kernels trip knox. There is no way to get knox back to 0x0 if you trip it. Maybe in the future, but it seem unlikely. Most of the folks that could figure it out , now work for these companies and r not allowed to share info anymore. The companies motto is "If you can not beat them, then hire them."
At the rate android is going, we might as well buy iphones. Good quote that these companies share is "The android people are free to do exactly what they are told to do. "
O.k. so I towel rooted my device how do I flash roms, kernels without tripping knox? Thanks
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xda23 said:
O.k. so I towel rooted my device how do I flash roms, kernels without tripping knox? Thanks
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You can't...yet. Flashing a recovery, which is needed to flash roms, trips knox. You can flash a kernel in ODIN (rarely) but that will trip knox as well since it isn't signed by Samsung.
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You can't...yet. Flashing a recovery, which is needed to flash roms, trips knox. You can flash a kernel in ODIN (rarely) but that will trip knox as well since it isn't signed by Samsung.
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Hey is it possible to flash using flashify? Thanks.
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xda23 said:
Hey is it possible to flash using flashify? Thanks.
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You can flash it, but it will still trip knox when you boot into recovery. What I really don't understand (no offense), is why people care about knox. Tmobile doesn't. So unless you live outside the US, it really doesn't matter.
aooga said:
What I really don't understand (no offense), is why people care about knox. Tmobile doesn't.
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If you are planning to use the Jump program, it does matter from what I read on the T-mobile support forum because you will be charged the insurance deductible on the phone if it has been determined that knox has been tripped. One would figure they evaluate these phones to see if they can refurbish them.
Computz said:
If you are planning to use the Jump program, it does matter from what I read on the T-mobile support forum because you will be charged the insurance deductible on the phone if it has been determined that knox has been tripped. One would figure they evaluate these phones to see if they can refurbish them. I suspect it also would matter in trade-in value too if you try to trade in your knox tripped phone to T-mobile.
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This is totally wrong. There are multiple reports of people jumping with Knox tripped. Even I've done it. No one has said they've had to pay anything because of Knox being tripped.
aooga said:
This is totally wrong. There are multiple reports of people jumping with Knox tripped. Even I've done it. No one has said they've had to pay anything because of Knox being tripped.
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That's good to know.. :good: But how much longer will they not care though? Would be nice if it was indefinite. Would, love to TWRP my S5.
Computz said:
That's good to know.. :good: But how much longer will they not care though? Would be nice if it was indefinite. Would, love to TWRP my S5.
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I see no reason why they should care. They flash back everything to stock again using Samsung software that resets everything.
I've been reading up on my phone as I tried to root it with saferoot oblivious to what knox was however it failed to root and I am running 4.3 however there is no trace of knox anywhere on the phone is there anyway I can check if I tripped the knox counter and voided the warranty? thanks :silly::silly:
hazza990 said:
I've been reading up on my phone as I tried to root it with saferoot oblivious to what knox was however it failed to root and I am running 4.3 however there is no trace of knox anywhere on the phone is there anyway I can check if I tripped the knox counter and voided the warranty? thanks :silly::silly:
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No you can't check because there is no knox on 19300
There's no knox on the s3? sweet!:laugh::laugh:
hazza990 said:
There's no knox on the s3? sweet!:laugh::laugh:
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Does this mean I can flash a custom rom and if it needs to go back to sammy I can just reflash the stock 4.3 back on and there will be no evidence?
hazza990 said:
Does this mean I can flash a custom rom and if it needs to go back to sammy I can just reflash the stock 4.3 back on and there will be no evidence?
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No you need to flash back to stock and use triangle away to set your flash count to zero but that's pretty easy to do >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s2/orig-development/2014-01-15-triangleaway-v3-26-t1494114 <<
Sweet XDD
If you trip knox, can you still flash anything you want, modem, kernel, etc. I just have to ask, because i read that if you trip knox you will no longer be able to flash a modem or kernel. I sorry if this was asked but i tried to google search and really did not come up with anything to support it or deny it.
thanks
Opps just realized i posted this in general section and not question; Mod please move to question section
Thanks
You can always revert it to stock, everything, the only thing you can't do is untrip knox (yet)
Nyagu said:
You can always revert it to stock, everything, the only thing you can't do is untrip knox (yet)
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i know i can always revert to stock and i can not reset knox counter. I just want to be sure that if i do something that trips knox that i can still load whatever i want modem , kernel etc.
galaxyuser88 said:
i know i can always revert to stock and i can not reset knox counter. I just want to be sure that if i do something that trips knox that i can still load whatever i want modem , kernel etc.
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Flashing kernels, custom recoveries, and boot loaders WILL trip Knox. That's why people don't do it. After Knox is tripped, you don't have to worry about flashing anything you want. Knox just show's if you've flashed something. Once it's tripped, it does not limit what you can flash or not flash.
People are just careful not to flash kernels or bootloaders or custom recoveries so as to not trip Knox. They are worried they will not get warranty work on the phone if Knox is tripped.
Nyagu said:
You can always revert it to stock, everything, the only thing you can't do is untrip knox (yet)
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gspears said:
Flashing kernels, custom recoveries, and boot loaders WILL trip Knox. That's why people don't do it. After Knox is tripped, you don't have to worry about flashing anything you want. Knox just show's if you've flashed something. Once it's tripped, it does not limit what you can flash or not flash.
People are just careful not to flash kernels or bootloaders or custom recoveries so as to not trip Knox. They are worried they will not get warranty work on the phone if Knox is tripped.
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ok great. I am just experimenting with flashing w/ mobile odin pro and seeing what i can get away with. I am sure eventually i will trip knox, but righ now i am trying to avoid it. Just had me worried when i read that tripping knox will cause you not to be able to flash modem or kernel anymore.
galaxyuser88 said:
ok great. I am just experimenting with flashing w/ mobile odin pro and seeing what i can get away with. I am sure eventually i will trip knox, but righ now i am trying to avoid it. Just had me worried when i read that tripping knox will cause you not to be able to flash modem or kernel anymore.
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I don't know where you read that but I wouldn't go back to that site. Knox is long ago tripped in my phone and I've flashed tons of ROMS Modems, Kernels, etc. I got the TMO S5 because it's bootloader isn't locked and I can flash what I like. I use it on AT&T btw.
Enjoy playing with and flashing your phone. Hit thanks if I've helped.
Will I be able to download Ota's if I root and trip knox?
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evoshift617 said:
Will I be able to download Ota's if I root and trip knox?
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Just rooting your S5 will keep you from getting OTA updates. But you can always odin your updates. Taking OTAs is dangerous for many reasons. It's better not to take them and find out what all they've changed by watching what happens to other peoples devices. Plus, if you use Mobile Odin Pro you can inject root and SU when you update.
Good luck with it.
If I've helped, please hit the thanks button.
So ur saying I can root without pc and just using Mobile Odin pro?
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evoshift617 said:
So ur saying I can root without pc and just using Mobile Odin pro?
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No you have to be rooted to use mobile odin on your device. Mobile odin pro just injects root if you decide to update to a newer firmware using mobile odin pro.
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So ur saying I can root without pc and just using Mobile Odin pro?
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Use pc odin to flash an ota that works with towel root. After that get mobile odin pro. Use mobile odin to flash all ota. You dont need to flash bootloader. Tho im on nh5 with an nh5 bootloader. Also this method will not trip knox.
I assume when android L hits, you will need to upgrade the bootloader to that version first, then use mobile odin to flash android L on the device.
Some one correct me if im wrong on that.
im sure some people know about this but a lot don't so I wanted to post this link to a thread that's buried here regarding flashing custom touchwiz roms without tripping knox. http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-galaxy-s5/help/flash-tw-custom-rom-tripping-knox-t2892774
basically you can get a debloated custom rom with aroma installer and not trip knox. Its no cyanogenmod but I prefer touchwiz anyway . this works with neatrom and alliance rom apparently. I have not tried it but there are many who have with other variants
Hello guys! I'm new to the S5 section and even more new to the T-Mobile area since I'm on AT&T network. I come from a S4 that I could root without tripping Knox and at least use different variants of TW rooms using Safestrap.
I was under the impression that Tmobile S5 version was not as tight as the AT&T version but after reading a few threads I'm not sure.
I have to say that I love the stock UI of S5 more than the one on the S4. That said I still would like to have more control over a few things.
So I could live with a rooted S5 with Xposed Installer and Wanam and a few other Xposed modules.
But I would not like to trip my phones Knox counter.
I wonder if that is possible under BNH5 firmware and how?
Can I root using Towelroot and intall Xposed, Wanam and a few other customization modules without tripping my phone's Knox counter?
Also Would I be able to go back to a virgin Stock Rom without tripping the counter?
I would appreciate all the help.
Thanks.
chiquito3 said:
I wonder if that is possible under BNH5 firmware and how?
Can I root using Towelroot and intall Xposed, Wanam and a few other customization modules without tripping my phone's Knox counter?
Also Would I be able to go back to a virgin Stock Rom without tripping the counter?
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You cannot root NH5 software directly with towel root, but there is a thread that shows exactly step by step how to downgrade to a version that towel root will root and then go back to the latest. This procedure does NOT trip Knox. Knox is tripped anytime you load a custom recovery or kernel.
So, if you just want root so you can run Xposed and Wannam and what not, that's not a problem and you can odin back to stock if you need to for a return. Look around here on the TMO S5 threads and you'll find all this hashed over and over.
Good Luck!
Hit thanks if I've helped.
chiquito3 said:
Hello guys! I'm new to the S5 section and even more new to the T-Mobile area since I'm on AT&T network. I come from a S4 that I could root without tripping Knox and at least use different variants of TW rooms using Safestrap.
I was under the impression that Tmobile S5 version was not as tight as the AT&T version but after reading a few threads I'm not sure.
I have to say that I love the stock UI of S5 more than the one on the S4. That said I still would like to have more control over a few things.
So I could live with a rooted S5 with Xposed Installer and Wanam and a few other Xposed modules.
But I would not like to trip my phones Knox counter.
I wonder if that is possible under BNH5 firmware and how?
Can I root using Towelroot and intall Xposed, Wanam and a few other customization modules without tripping my phone's Knox counter?
Also Would I be able to go back to a virgin Stock Rom without tripping the counter?
I would appreciate all the help.
Thanks.
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Yes you can root your phone but you will have to roll back the firmware back NE6 and then use towel root. Once you do that, then you can use pc odin to flash the nh5 firmware and use mobile odin pro to flash the NH5 software back onto your phone and retain root. Just remember that you will not trip knox using the method above, but if you flash a custom recovery or non tmo s5 kernel you will trip knox. There are a few threads here that you help you root and upgrade to keep root. Make sure you read thru some of the rooting threads before you do anything to your phone, It is your responsibility to make sure you know how and what your are doing when flash your phone, We are not responsible if you forget to read or flash something that is not for your type of phone, if you brick your phone or if you trip knox. Also Remember that if you do trip knox, there currently is no way to reset the knox counter, so please Do Not Ask.
Have fun and read before you decide to do anything to your phone..
Sorry for the question but could you pont me to the right thread. I found one that wad NJ ot so clear or explicit.
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Sorry for the question but could you pont me to the right thread. I found one that wad NJ ot so clear or explicit.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784025
chiquito3 said:
Hello guys! I'm new to the S5 section and even more new to the T-Mobile area since I'm on AT&T network. I come from a S4 that I could root without tripping Knox and at least use different variants of TW rooms using Safestrap.
I was under the impression that Tmobile S5 version was not as tight as the AT&T version but after reading a few threads I'm not sure.
I have to say that I love the stock UI of S5 more than the one on the S4. That said I still would like to have more control over a few things.
So I could live with a rooted S5 with Xposed Installer and Wanam and a few other Xposed modules.
But I would not like to trip my phones Knox counter.
I wonder if that is possible under BNH5 firmware and how?
Can I root using Towelroot and intall Xposed, Wanam and a few other customization modules without tripping my phone's Knox counter?
Also Would I be able to go back to a virgin Stock Rom without tripping the counter?
I would appreciate all the help.
Thanks.
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First Question is do you have premium handset protection? If so then I wouldnt worry about Knox at all. Handset protection covers everything including running over your phone with a car . I have had devices that I didnt have insurance on in the past when I was a NOOB that had the warranty flag tripped and never had any problems at T-Mobile with replacing it . T-Mobile would rather replace a knox tripped phone over replacing a phone with a cracked screen because they just re-flash the device and pass it along to the next person . It doesnt cost them anything like it would having to repair cracked screens etc... I have the S5 G900T and I rooted while I was still in the T-Mobile store buying it LOL . The sales guy told me their was no way to root it at the time (which he was wrong ). Anyway I understand kind of why you wouldnt want to trip knox but at the end of the day it really wont matter if tmobile is your carrier . There really isnt a difference between a tripped phone and one that isnt when it comes to getting it replaced . I know this from experience and many many others on XDA will tell you the same .
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T-Mobile would rather replace a knox tripped phone over replacing a phone with a cracked screen because they just re-flash the device and pass it along to the next person ..
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It's my understanding that the KNOX security flag is a electronic fuse. Once tripped it's burned to 1 state and a "re-flash" won't repair that.
That said, I could see T-Mobile taking it back because of the value of the replaceable parts, including an intact display. Enough profit is made on the extended protection plans that T-mobile could grind them all up and use them for fancy pavement surfacing. I've yet, for example to replace "anything" under an extended service plan. I get them to be careful, but there's been plenty of $$$ for those plan providers.
Extended service plans? Total and absolutely guaranteed profit for vendors.
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I read the towelroot thread but it does not say anything on how to downgrade firmware version.
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hI THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED TO DO
1. DOWNLOAD G900TUVU1ANE6 FULL STOCK TAR FROM HERE https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23501681358541270
2. uNZIP THE FILE AND FLASH IT USING PC ODIN. WHICH YOU CAN GET HERE https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23212708291676783
3. ROOT WITH TOWELROOT . TOWELROOT IS HERE https://towelroot.com/
4.DOWNLOAD MOBILE ODIN PRO FROM THE PLAYSTORE IT WILL COST YOU AROUND $6
5.DOWNLOAD THE NEWEST STOCK TAR TMB-G900TUVU1BNH5 FROM SAMMOBILE OR FOR A MUCH FASTER LINK GET IT HERE https://mega.co.nz/#!F0gFFIpL!SdOFS_5OSOB6b1WUSxfVR286LgrAeDdugRRC5-G0dQ8
6. UNZIP THE FILE AND COPY IT TO YOUR SDCARD OR INTERNAL STORAGE ON YOUR PHONE.
7. USING MOBILE ODIN PRO CHOOSE THE OPEN FILE SELECTION AND THEN CHOOSE THE FILE THAT YOU COPIED TO THE PHONE
8. IGNORE THE WARNING FROM MOBILE ODIN REGARDING KNOX. IT WONT TRIP. TICK EVEROOT AND INJECT SUPERSU FLASH THE PHONE .
YOUR PHONE SHOULD BE ROOTED UPON ONCE IT RESTARTS AND ON THE NEWEST FIRMWARE.
YOUR BOOTLOADER CAN NOT BE UPGRADED BY MOBILE ODIN. THAT CAN BE FLASHED SEPERATELY BY USING PC ODIN.LOOK FOR THE BOOTLOADER FILE IF YOU WISH TO UPGRADE IT BUT IN MY OPINION IT IS NOT CRITICAL TO INSTALL AT THIS POINT. MOST OF THESE FILES CAN BE FOUND HERE http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2761412 OR HERE http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2715487
IF YOU CANT FIND SOMETHING USE GOOGLE.
FINALLY WHATEVER HAPPENS TO YOUR PHONE IS SOLELY YOUR RESPONSIBILITY.
I WOULD READ THESE THREADS BEFORE DOIN G ANYTHING
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2790292 http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-galaxy-s5/general/nh5-stock-rom-ur-phone-to-stock-t2901732 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784025 http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo...all-updatetmb-g900tuvu1bnh5-size-1-5-t2873090 http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo.../experimental-how-to-root-triggering-t2845421
LASTLY YOU NEED TO KNOW THAT XPOSED DOES NOT PLAY WELL WITH THE S5 IT BREAKS PRIVACY MODE S HEALTH CAUSES LAG AND IS ONLY USEFUL ON DALVIK. ONCE ANDROID L IS RELEASED . IT WILL BE USING THE ART ANDROID RUNTIME WHICH IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH XPOSED .
HAVE FUN!
Question for you all...
I been seeing in a few spots this should be possible but I like to be safe rather than sorry.
Is it possible to do the following on a US Cellular S6 Edge Model: SM-G925R4? :
1 ) Downgrade to a Pingroot capable stock rom.
2) Use the root from that to use FlashFire to install something like CM.
3) Not Trip Knox.
If this is possible then can you extract and use Samsung Pay but using something like rootcloak on it with knox not tripped or is that not safe?
It doesnt work for my bank yet but it would be nice to have in the future.
TULOA said:
Question for you all...
I been seeing in a few spots this should be possible but I like to be safe rather than sorry.
Is it possible to do the following on a US Cellular S6 Edge Model: SM-G925R4? :
1 ) Downgrade to a Pingroot capable stock rom.
2) Use the root from that to use FlashFire to install something like CM.
3) Not Trip Knox.
If this is possible then can you extract and use Samsung Pay but using something like rootcloak on it with knox not tripped or is that not safe?
It doesnt work for my bank yet but it would be nice to have in the future.
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if u trip knox samsung will not work
installing custom rom like cm or something else will trip knox
if u want samsung pay dont root or do anything
I understand that but that wasnt my question.
Trying to find about doing the steps above.
Install official samsung down to rootable firmware then use that root with flashfire. Was told that method could work. However if I can just get root from a downgrade ill be happy.
Downgrading could be possible with Odin depending on y your firmware version. You can always try installing the earliest firmware for that particular variant. Worst thing to happen would be a failure of installation. The earliest firmware versions are compatible with pingpongroot , but if the su binaries are detected Samsung pay will fail no matter what
Yea and thats what rootcloak is for. But are all bootloaders locked based on date or carrier?
Version on mine:
G925R4TYU3CPB4
Now I suppose if I can flash an earlier stock will it trip knox? Also what would happen if it fails? Just says error and thats it?
TULOA said:
Yea and thats what rootcloak is for. But are all bootloaders locked based on date or carrier?
Version on mine:
G925R4TYU3CPB4
Now I suppose if I can flash an earlier stock will it trip knox? Also what would happen if it fails? Just says error and thats it?
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It is completely based on date. When I tried flashing an early firmware on my galaxy s4 installation failed and I just got a 'fail' message in Odin. No Knox issues. I would assume that would happen with you. Go give it a try. I am rather confident that it will fail on your device, but if it does no worries, just restore the latest firmware and live without root