Okay, so my HTC Amaze is set up like this: Officially updated to ICS via OTA from Stock gingerbread. Rooted and SuperSU installed via AIO toolkit, bootloader unlocked officially, 4EXT Recovery, and S-ON on stock Sense 3.6 rom. I want to install Speed Rom 6.0, SuperSayain, or FastAmaze (I really want Speed Rom 6.0), but I'm not sure if I can with my current configuration. If I can, can someone please give me specific step by step instructions? If this includes installing something, please include a link. Also, some of the roms mentioned that I need to install a kernel and firmware from ICS. How do I do this, and can someone please tell me where to get the correct downloads. If someone can help, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks in advance!
BUMP.
Someone please answer...
As per what is said in the speed rom 6 post you only have to worry about installing the ICS stuff if you are on gingerbread. You already updated to ICS so you don't have to worry about it. I have the same config as you and I am running Speed rom 6 so I would say it will work.
As for how: download ROM zip, copy to SD card, BACKUP YOUR NAND! or you'll regret it if something goes wrong, do full wipe with 4EXT, install ROM, reboot, have fun.
Out of curiosity for my own selfish purposes, what carrier are you on?
koroth said:
As per what is said in the speed rom 6 post you only have to worry about installing the ICS stuff if you are on gingerbread. You already updated to ICS so you don't have to worry about it. I have the same config as you and I am running Speed rom 6 so I would say it will work.
As for how: download ROM zip, copy to SD card, BACKUP YOUR NAND! or you'll regret it if something goes wrong, do full wipe with 4EXT, install ROM, reboot, have fun.
Out of curiosity for my own selfish purposes, what carrier are you on?
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I'm on T-mobile. Thanks for the help. BTW, since you have this rom installed, does speed rom have beats audio and Google Now? If not, how can I add them? How about to the stock rom?
koroth said:
As per what is said in the speed rom 6 post you only have to worry about installing the ICS stuff if you are on gingerbread. You already updated to ICS so you don't have to worry about it. I have the same config as you and I am running Speed rom 6 so I would say it will work.
As for how: download ROM zip, copy to SD card, BACKUP YOUR NAND! or you'll regret it if something goes wrong, do full wipe with 4EXT, install ROM, reboot, have fun.
Out of curiosity for my own selfish purposes, what carrier are you on?
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Oh, I forgot to ask, how do I backup the NAND?
No problem, Beats audio is listed in the change log as being fixed under version 4 so I would assume yes; as far as I know Google Now is not installed but a few seconds on a Google search of "how to install Google now" will give you a guide on how to do it.
As for the Nand backup here's a guide I just found http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/how-to-perform-and-restore-a-nandroid-backup/
To add them to the stock ROM I imagine that you would need to edit the ROM itself and essentially create your own custom ROM.
By the way, for future reference, I didn't know all this until I spent the last 2 minutes on Google. It is easy information to find and probably takes more time to ask the question on here then it does to find the answer through a search.
Good luck!
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I recently rooted my phone and flashed the TWRP recovery for it as it was recommended on IRC. One of my favorite apps when I had my rooted 4G was Rom Manager. It allowed me to easily backup and flash roms whenever I pleased.
Is there something similar to that for TWRP? Rom Manager requires having Clockwork Mod recovery to use. Also what are the advantages / disadvantages if any to either recovery?
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I like doing everything manually from recovery myself. The advantages of TWRP of CWM is the ease of access of certain options in the menus. I love having the wipe cache and dalvik cache as an option in the install zip menu. You can also change the theme easily. I like the backup options in the Nandroid menu and the fact that it backs up your wimax partition. There are many advantages in TWRP over CWM imo. It is designed for the Evo 3D natively and CWM is a port, so it's options are not designed for the Evo 3D. TWRP is just laid out better and you don't have to scroll through the work no 8 times just to wipe cache. Rom Manager is nice, but even when I did use CWM on my NS4G, I never, ever used the app because I just feel safer doing things manually.
All this is a matter of opinion, so it ultimately is up to you. Maybe the ultimate and best reason to shoose TWRP over CWM is because when you go into the Wipe Menu there is a roll of toilet paper in the background.
There working on something similar to rom manager
Instead of making a new thread ill go ahead and ask here. I'm currently doing a Titanium Backup of my apps / data. I'm also going to do a nandroid backup using TWRP since I've decided to dive into a rom. Are there any other recommended steps I should take before I flash? I hear talk of kernals but know nothing about them.
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To be more de specific this is the rom I plan on using.
[ROM][8-21-11][2.3.4] gbsense-e3d-deck [0.5]
I read in his thread there was only 2 kernals for 2.3.4, stock and another custom that's floating around.
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If you are going to a 2.3.4 Rom I would stick with the stock kernel that comes with the Rom for now. Until HTC releases the source for the 2.3.4 kernel we won't have any custom kernels to flash. I would suggest searching here and on Google what is a Linux kernel and what benefits a custom kernel can give you in Android.
Also, if you flash an incompatible kernel it will at least break things like wifi, sms, mms and other functions of the phone and at most completely make your phone unbootable and you will have to nandroid restore.
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If you are going to a 2.3.4 Rom I would stick with the stock kernel that comes with the Rom for now. Until HTC releases the source for the 2.3.4 kernel we won't have any custom kernels to flash. I would suggest searching here and on Google what is a Linux kernel and what benefits a custom kernel can give you in Android.
Also, if you flash an incompatible kernel it will at least break things like wifi, sms, mms and other functions of the phone and at most completely make your phone unbootable and you will have to nandroid restore.
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So in other words i can just flash this Rom and i'm good to go.
Yep. The Rom's always include a kernel. If you want a custom kernel, that is a separate flash. Some Rom's include a custom kernel and some include stock kernels. I will say that I am using a Rom based off the HTC 2.3.4 update and has the stock kernel and it is actually very smooth and runs fast. I really am not sure overclocking is necessary on this phone, especially after all of the Sprint and HTC bloat are taken out. Though I can understand why people want and do overclock, but seriously benchmarks don't mean shiz to me. How the phone runs in real time use and how the battery performs are my greatest concerns.
I had the same question as the OP. It looks like i won't be using rom manager. Can you point me to a step-by-step on rom flashing using TWRP? Thanks. All google searches seem to return flashing "how to's" using CWM Rec.
meccadon123 said:
I had the same question as the OP. It looks like i won't be using rom manager. Can you point me to a step-by-step on rom flashing using TWRP? Thanks. All google searches seem to return flashing "how to's" using CWM Rec.
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curious about this too, i've searched here and googled with no luck. everything i find only explains step by step with rom manager/clockwork
i'm assuming you just enter recovery, select install zip -> choose zip to flash -> select your custom rom.zip from the list and then let it do it's thing.
just want to be sure so hopefully someone can confirm or post proper steps.
meccadon123 said:
Can you point me to a step-by-step on rom flashing using TWRP? Thanks. All google searches seem to return flashing "how to's" using CWM Rec.
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finally found someone who would actually respond. not step by step per say, but i you read this post you should get the idea
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16982135&postcount=4402
meccadon123 said:
I had the same question as the OP. It looks like i won't be using rom manager. Can you point me to a step-by-step on rom flashing using TWRP? Thanks. All google searches seem to return flashing "how to's" using CWM Rec.
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jorts said:
curious about this too, i've searched here and googled with no luck. everything i find only explains step by step with rom manager/clockwork
i'm assuming you just enter recovery, select install zip -> choose zip to flash -> select your custom rom.zip from the list and then let it do it's thing.
just want to be sure so hopefully someone can confirm or post proper steps.
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Assuming you already have S-OFF you just need this file http://www.techerrata.com/android/twrp/PG86IMG-twrp-shooter-1.0.3.zip
*Download flashable zip from the OP and rename it "PG86IMG.zip" (without the quotes)
*Place in the root of the sdcard
*Power off phone (make sure you turn off hot boot or pull the battery when it's off)
*Power on the phone holding power and volume down
*Follow the prompts to flash it
*Delete .zip (PG86IMG.zip) after booting
*Enjoy
(Credit to ViViDboarder)
If you have any other questions head to
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192077
Hi Comm
I am new to SG-A and Android itself. As far as i can say from using this phone for one month now is:
- It is fast (i don't play games)
- It is practical
- It is just VERY NICE
BUT, there are some negative aspects also:
- Battery runs out very fast (1 - 1,5 days) - WLAN/BT/GPS/GP3/2 are switched on manually only when needed.
- Low internal memory (278 MB)?
So, what do i want to do next?
- I would like to improve Battery life duration, and i hear that other ROMs do safe battery life duration.
- I would like to delete all the Samsung Apps and stuff from the phone
Note: I have tried out an app called "juice defender", but i am far from enthusiastic about it - it switches on and off the 3G network automatically what is very practical, but hangs itself up occasionally.
What have i learned on xda-developers.com yet?
- There are instructions on how to root your mobile, to have admin-privileges
- There are instructions on how to update firmware
- There are different ROM's you can use (like Cyanogen and GingerReal)
And - that there is no BEST ROM, only different ROMs for differents tastes.
What would i like to know from you now?
- Is it for real that other ROMs enhance battery life? (more than like 100%?)
- Would you agree to kick out all Samsung apps? Also to free up some internal memory.
- What ROM would you recommend me? As mentioned, i don't play games. I just need a practical and fast operating system on my phone. I make phone calls, write sms, and occasionally look up information on the Internet Browser. And i would like to enhance battery life somehow.
That Cyanogen ROM sounds promising, but ain't ready to use yet?
Others wrote that the GingerReal ROM is the most used one here for SG-A, so can't be a big mistake to give it a try?
Thank you so much for your recommendations!
BR
dbenx
Yup. Gingerreal is the most stable. Cyanogenmod roms are still beta so for a new user you may wanna explorer stock based roms and mess with Odin and clockworkmod before going into beta roms. Of course, it's personal preference.
Everything is pretty simple. For Gingerreal, just get a 2.3 update, then get clockworkmod, then flash the rom. Follow instructions in the development threads to the letter, you'll be safe and happy.
I have been using the official 2.3.4 rom with CF-Root, and Link2SD to account for the lack of space, and it works amazingly fast.
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Hi guys!
Thanks for your replys so far - that gives me some direction
BR
consegregate said:
Yup. Gingerreal is the most stable. Cyanogenmod roms are still beta so for a new user you may wanna explorer stock based roms and mess with Odin and clockworkmod before going into beta roms. Of course, it's personal preference.
Everything is pretty simple. For Gingerreal, just get a 2.3 update, then get clockworkmod, then flash the rom. Follow instructions in the development threads to the letter, you'll be safe and happy.
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hi, i want to give a try to Gingerreal (i am stuck on KPH), can someone explain me (i'm a newby):
- how to install CWM (the link in the official post is broken)
- if i need to root the device first
- if i need to partition the sd in ext4 before flashing the rom (and how do it)
- if i need to wipe data before flashing the rom
Tnx in advance
hellasvr said:
hi, i want to give a try to Gingerreal (i am stuck on KPH), can someone explain me (i'm a newby):
- how to install CWM (the link in the official post is broken)
- if i need to root the device first
- if i need to partition the sd in ext4 before flashing the rom (and how do it)
- if i need to wipe data before flashing the rom
Tnx in advance
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In the GingerReal thread there is a link to another thread which has the clockworkmod recovery. download it, power off, boot into stock recovery by holding home while powering up, then install the zip you downloaded. You get clockworkmod then.
You don't need root. After clockworkmod, download the GingerReal zip and install from sd card.
If you wanna use darktremor app2sd then partition your sd card. Google for that.
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In the GingerReal thread there is a link to another thread which has the clockworkmod recovery. download it, power off, boot into stock recovery by holding home while powering up, then install the zip you downloaded. You get clockworkmod then.
You don't need root. After clockworkmod, download the GingerReal zip and install from sd card.
If you wanna use darktremor app2sd then partition your sd card. Google for that.
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its said about KPH and KPN things..which i know its about a firmware.. if im not on that firmware can i flash GingerReal rom to my phone?
Hanakie said:
its said about KPH and KPN things..which i know its about a firmware.. if im not on that firmware can i flash GingerReal rom to my phone?
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The point is to have GingerBread bootloader~ it's tested on that firmware so its good if you flash it~ just to avoid problems~
Hanakie said:
its said about KPH and KPN things..which i know its about a firmware.. if im not on that firmware can i flash GingerReal rom to my phone?
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No don't flash it while on an another firmware,flash the firmware to the version stated or you might end up with a bricked galaxy ace.As stated it has been tested on those firmwares and its safe..
try firstUA rom....
http://http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1184108
First off let me start by saying I just rooted my EVO 3d. Yes I'm a noob to this whole thing! I have to say I'm hooked on this though very cool! I was successful with the root, I used the HTC method to root the phone.
I then installed TWRP.
I installed the Olympus Trinity XE rom.
Here is my question
I see that there is an update to this rom do I have to reinstall this whole ROM and and set my phone all up again or can I just update with the new version and keep all of the settings on my phone? example: when i installed the new ROM I had to set up my mail and all applications again. Maybe there is a step I'm missing and I may not be providing enough info like I said I'm a noob right now so all help would be appriciated.
Thanks
Most likely you just need to flash the new rom over your current without wiping and starting over. Just be sure to backup first just in case. Usually the thread with the update will say whether you need to wipe or not.
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Direthreat said:
First off let me start by saying I just rooted my EVO 3d. Yes I'm a noob to this whole thing! I have to say I'm hooked on this though very cool! I was successful with the root, I used the HTC method to root the phone.
I then installed TWRP.
I installed the Olympus Trinity XE rom.
Here is my question
I see that there is an update to this rom do I have to reinstall this whole ROM and and set my phone all up again or can I just update with the new version and keep all of the settings on my phone? example: when i installed the new ROM I had to set up my mail and all applications again. Maybe there is a step I'm missing and I may not be providing enough info like I said I'm a noob right now so all help would be appriciated.
Thanks
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Cetus Corr said:
Most likely you just need to flash the new rom over your current without wiping and starting over. Just be sure to backup first just in case. Usually the thread with the update will say whether you need to wipe or not.
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Yea, it really all depends on the ROM dev and the changes they've made between ROMs. They should let you know whether or not you'll need to wipe "data" partition which is where all your settings for mail and all other applciations are stored.
If you don't have to wipe data, usually you don't between updates of the same ROM, then all your settings will stay in tact which makes the updating process much easier.
Many times, when switching between ROMs, you'll need to wipe the data partition and re-do all the settings.
Personally, I usually flash w/o wiping and if I have issues, I might go back and wipe or run fix_permissions script. But these are definitely more advanced steps so I wouldn't recommend the process.
In all cases though, always make a nandroid as it can save much time and effort! Good luck!
Thanks for the assistance.
This is what I'm working with.
Attention!!
Instructions to flash Trinity
For Users that have used Revolutionary to S-Off
ALL USERS
Wipe Data and Cache
Wipe Dalvik Cache
go into Mounts and Storage and Format System
Install Trinity
Sit back and allow it to finish
Once finished allow your Olympian to rest for 7 minutes
REBOOT
Allow it to rest for 7 minutes AGAIN
REBOOT
ENJOY!!!!
Resources to flash Trinity
For Users that have used the HTC Unlock Tool
Please go here and review Second Post for instructions
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1239821
Please go here for Flash Image GUI
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...1192527&page=8
So my confusion come after the all user statement and it also does not refer to if you are already running the Rom and just looking for the updated parts.
Direthreat said:
Thanks for the assistance.
This is what I'm working with.
Attention!!
Instructions to flash Trinity
For Users that have used Revolutionary to S-Off
ALL USERS
Wipe Data and Cache
Wipe Dalvik Cache
go into Mounts and Storage and Format System
Install Trinity
Sit back and allow it to finish
Once finished allow your Olympian to rest for 7 minutes
REBOOT
Allow it to rest for 7 minutes AGAIN
REBOOT
ENJOY!!!!
Resources to flash Trinity
For Users that have used the HTC Unlock Tool
Please go here and review Second Post for instructions
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1239821
Please go here for Flash Image GUI
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...1192527&page=8
So my confusion come after the all user statement and it also does not refer to if you are already running the Rom and just looking for the updated parts.
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On a side note, the links quoted above don't work and for future reference you can attach a link back to the original post you're quoting...not a big deal. But after seeing my app, Flash Image GUI, mentioned, I was a little curious!
The steps look correct and follow the general pattern when loading all ROMs and most kernels. If you're currently using the ROM and you're only flashing an "updated" version of the ROM, then you shouldn't need to wipe /data, at minimum though I'd suggest wiping /data/dalvik-cache and /cache.
BUT, the ultimate answer lies with the ROM developer as only they know for sure, what files were changed and how they were changed. Best to post up the question in the specific ROM thread and I'm sure either the developer or somebody familar with their work will be able to provide a more specific suggestion!
Hope that helps!
Thanks Great feedback! Sorry about the links too. I purchased and used your tool last night and it seemed to update the kernel to AnthraX-CMDA-Sense-Stock v2.6.38.6 but it did not seem to update the ROM? In the developers post he refers to using your method to flash the ROM. I followed your instructions to the T and did it twice but it seems like it did not update the ROM. In addition I can't post to the thread yet because I'm new to XDA and need ten post before I can submit to that thread.
Direthreat said:
Thanks Great feedback! Sorry about the links too. I purchased and used your tool last night and it seemed to update the kernel to AnthraX-CMDA-Sense-Stock v2.6.38.6 but it did not seem to update the ROM? In the developers post he refers to using your method to flash the ROM. I followed your instructions to the T and did it twice but it seems like it did not update the ROM. In addition I can't post to the thread yet because I'm new to XDA and need ten post before I can submit to that thread.
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My application, Flash Image GUI, only loads the kernel portion of the ROM. Due to limitations of the OS, not able to overwrite files which are currently in use the ROM/System portion of the ROM .zip file can't be loaded while currently using the OS.
The ROM .zip file needs to be flashed from the custom recovery in order to load the system portion of the ROM.
From your feedback it sounds as if you've only completed half of the process, loading the kernel. To complete the other half, you'll need to flash the exact same ROM file from the custom recovery.
Hopefully that makes sense! Appreciate the support!
joeykrim said:
My application, Flash Image GUI, only loads the kernel portion of the ROM. Due to limitations of the OS, not able to overwrite files which are currently in use the ROM/System portion of the ROM .zip file can't be loaded while currently using the OS.
The ROM .zip file needs to be flashed from the custom recovery in order to load the system portion of the ROM.
From your feedback it sounds as if you've only completed half of the process, loading the kernel. To complete the other half, you'll need to flash the exact same ROM file from the custom recovery.
Hopefully that makes sense! Appreciate the support!
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By that you mean flash the whole rom again?
Sent From My Nocturnal 3Dimension
I did follow the complete process but it still did not update. Looking at going to another Rom.
Any suggestions on Kernel and Rom to use?
Hi I was wondering if we know more about the modem release that came with the ota and if it was worth getting on my phone. Phone is stock rom rooted with a couple tweaks. Should I look into getting the modem update on my phone or am I good without it?
I would go for it It speeded up my downloads over 4g big time
Whats the easy way to do it in my case? Can i just download the modem itself and odin them in?
Edit: should i unfreeze sdm let the ota go through and use the new unlock methods to get back to where i am now. will that work? or will that add more crap i dont want. Want to keep phone open and working as I want it, not how verizon wants me to.
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Whats the easy way to do it in my case? Can i just download the modem itself and odin them in?
Edit: should i unfreeze sdm let the ota go through and use the new unlock methods to get back to where i am now. will that work? or will that add more crap i dont want. Want to keep phone open and working as I want it, not how verizon wants me to.
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Don't use odin, but rather use your recovery to flash. In my case I have TWRP 2.3.2.3, and used that to fliash with the "Select Zip to Install" option. It would be good to download both modems just in case, that way you can switch back if necessary.
Unlock it, then install clockwork mod or twrp recovery.
Custom recoveries are good for a number of things but most importantly being able to take nandroids. Even if you don't do roms, that's worth it.
Then you can install the modem from a zip file on an sd card.
You might as well just unlock it as it is now. Flashing the modem isn't very time consuming.
Just check the md5 before you flash to make sure you have a good download.
Here is a link to the basebands
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2108510
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Unlock it, then install clockwork mod or twrp recovery.
Custom recoveries are good for a number of things but most importantly being able to take nandroids. Even if you don't do roms, that's worth it.
Then you can install the modem from a zip file on an sd card.
You might as well just unlock it as it is now. Flashing the modem isn't very time consuming.
Just check the md5 before you flash to make sure you have a good download.
Here is a link to the basebands
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2108510
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Jailbreak went beautifully, making a stock backup as we speak once thats done ill slap on the new modems and back that up as well. Now that its unlocked I might just place around with roms. Any recommendations? Looking for good performance with great battery life, debloat pretty much everything, Access to stweaks might be awesome as well. Is pegasus the only rom that has a kernel that supports it? Also heard great things about cleanrom. My main misgivings are will I lose all data and such by throwing on a custom rom. I have google wallet working on my phone and would rather not lose that, Also dont want to have to reset my homescreen and all my app folders and nova stuff.
Ok its unlocked and I have twrp on it, I have the modem downloaded and checked the md5 how do I flash it now, I tried to go into recovery and navigated to the file on sd card and install from zip but it failed am i missing something?
Which version of twrp do you have?
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note II...
Update your TWRP via goomanager.
Ya that's the only bad thing, a new rom will torch your data. It's always best to do a clean install, dirty flashing can create problems but some people have good luck.
You can use titanium backup to backup your apps and data.
I do that and have never had any issues but there again it's usually best to let Google restore b your apps.
I like beans myself but it is kind of like the old Chevy vs Ford argument, however beans' aroma installer has a little more options I believe.
Perseus kernel is an option on the aroma install. It has stweaks.
There is also a thread on here with flashable zips for stweaks.
That's the only kernel I've used for oc/uv but there may be others.
Don't know about the Google wallet
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2119761
STweaks Custom Profiles
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2079311
STweaks Guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2048013
[Kernel][Feb 26] Perseus
Let me start off by saying I have been reading these forums for a couple days and I am just getting more confused.
Currently I have root, S-On, and no other mods or ROMs. I am getting the popup notification to update literally every time I turn on the screen. I can select defer and set a date about a week in the future from whatever day it is, but the popup comes back within the hour. A few times it even began downloading on its own (while on 4G as well, ~100 mb of data used up every time).
All I would like to do is somehow get my phone to be as if I were complete stock and accepted the OTA, keep root, and not have to wipe any data (or be able to restore a full nandroid). I am getting very frustrated with everything and once I think I understand it, someone throws out something new to me.
If anyone is willing to take some time to help me with this I would gladly make a donation, either to them or another party of their choosing
Spaded21 said:
Let me start off by saying I have been reading these forums for a couple days and I am just getting more confused.
Currently I have root, S-On, and no other mods or ROMs. I am getting the popup notification to update literally every time I turn on the screen. I can select defer and set a date about a week in the future from whatever day it is, but the popup comes back within the hour. A few times it even began downloading on its own (while on 4G as well, ~100 mb of data used up every time).
All I would like to do is somehow get my phone to be as if I were complete stock and accepted the OTA, keep root, and not have to wipe any data (or be able to restore a full nandroid). I am getting very frustrated with everything and once I think I understand it, someone throws out something new to me.
If anyone is willing to take some time to help me with this I would gladly make a donation, either to them or another party of their choosing
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You can simply flash a stock rom that has the update & flash the newer stock kernel that goes with it but you wont be able to update the radios. You wont lose any info this way unless something goes wrong.(always backup everything just in case something goes wrong).
As for backup, you will only be able to backup aps & data with titanium backup or some sort of program like that because If you do a nandroid backup and then restore after applying the update, you would be restoring your old rom basically over the new one and lose most update enhancements.
You should just follow the thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155069 and go S-Off. I know you will have to restore everything because you will wipe your phone when you do this but its only gonna make things easier for you in the future.
Do a nan backup and save it in case you want to use it in the future and go back to what you had. Once you have S-Off, you can flash kernals, radios, & roms and put in any version you want.
Thanks for your response Jrocker,
So it looks like the best way to do this would be to backup my apps with Titanium, get S-off, install a stock ROM with the update, flash the kernel and radio, then restore from Titanium.
Step 1. Make nandroid
Step 2. Backup apps with Titanium, copy backup along with pics and video to PC
Step 3. Get S-off
Step 4. Flash Stock ROM - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2149095
Step 5. While still in recovery, flash stock kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2149951
Step 6. Flash stock radio http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155915
Step 7. Restore apps and pics.
Does that look correct? Do I have to worry about flashing a boot.img or modules(don't know what those are)?
Spaded21 said:
Thanks for your response Jrocker,
So it looks like the best way to do this would be to backup my apps with Titanium, get S-off, install a stock ROM with the update, flash the kernel and radio, then restore from Titanium.
Step 1. Make nandroid
Step 2. Backup apps with Titanium, copy backup along with pics and video to PC
Step 3. Get S-off
Step 4. Flash Stock ROM - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2149095
Step 5. While still in recovery, flash stock kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2149951
Step 6. Flash stock radio http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155915
Step 7. Restore apps and pics.
Does that look correct? Do I have to worry about flashing a boot.img or modules(don't know what those are)?
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Have you unlocked the bootloader? (this step is usually done in connection with rooting the phone at the htcdev.com website). If you have an ulocked bootloader, then you can flash an alternate recovery (eithe cwr or twrp) and do a nandroid backup.
Then follow the steps to get s-off. Note: the step where you have your data wiped is unlocking the bootloader, not obtaining s-off. If you already have an alternate recovery, and root, then s-off generally will not wipe your phone. But do an nandroid backup in cwr or twrp just in case Although a nandroid won't backup pictures etc.
Once you have s-off, flash the stock (but rooted) rom you linked to in step 4. This step SHOULD flash the stock kernel if the .zip file was prepared properly. If you boot into the rom and have flickering or wifi issues, then you will need to flash the stock 2.04 kernel (in fastboot). You can also verify if the new kernel was installed when the rom is booted by looking at the Settings:About:Software Information:More (baseband, kernel etc). You should see there kernel version 3.4.10. The baseband (radio) should be 1.01.01.0110 once you have updated the radio (see the step below). The kernel file is the boot.img file you were asking about. The modules will already be built into the stock rom.
While in fastboot (not recovery) you can flash the updated radio files (that will make the baseband referred to above be 1.01.01.0110.
The time when you need to worry about flashing a kernel (boot.img) and modules is if you are s-on, or if you are s-off and the zip file was prepared as you were s-on. When you flash a "kernel", it consists of a boot.img file, along with some extraneous files (the module). When you are s-off, these can both be flashed together while in recovery. When you are s-on, the boot.img file must be flashed from fastboot (or else an alternate method using an app like Flash Image GUI). Because until recently, most DNA's were s-on, the kernel developers prepared their files for s-on devices, with instructions for s-on devices.
When you flash a rom that uses a different kernel than the one you are using, if the .zip file is prepared for a s-off device, then there are no additional steps necessary.
You may want to do a factory reset when you flash the updated 2.04 rom. I think it would be wise. As I said earlier, you shouldn't lose your /sdcard partition UNLESS you haven't already unlocked your bootloader. s-off doesn't reset your device.
Wow, all I can say is thank you so much! That was an awesome, detailed answer. It makes so much more sense when someone fully explains everything all at once, instead of me trying to piece everything together myself from various threads.
Yes my bootloader is unlocked. So you are saying once the bootloader is unlocked wiping data won't touch the SD card partition, just as if I had an actual SD card? When I rooted my Thunderbolt and did subsequent factory resets on that, it never touched the SD card. When I rooted my DNA it wiped everything. Either way I will always make backups and copy those to my PC.
I will be trying this later today and I will report back with the results. Seriously, thank you so much.
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Wow, all I can say is thank you so much! That was an awesome, detailed answer. It makes so much more sense when someone fully explains everything all at once, instead of me trying to piece everything together myself from various threads.
Yes my bootloader is unlocked. So you are saying once the bootloader is unlocked wiping data won't touch the SD card partition, just as if I had an actual SD card? When I rooted my Thunderbolt and did subsequent factory resets on that, it never touched the SD card. When I rooted my DNA it wiped everything. Either way I will always make backups and copy those to my PC.
I will be trying this later today and I will report back with the results. Seriously, thank you so much.
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I was looking for this exact solution as well. This was before we had s-off. For a while my solution was to freeze a couple apps in TB so the OTA pop up would stop popping up. I think it was HTC DM 1.0.2219251543..... and HtcDm 1.0.221982913.... Looks the same but they are different.
I like stock but I eventually flashed ViperDNA. It looks like stock but you are able to customize the $h!!t out of it. Its an awesome ROM that I highly recommend. Although you might want to wait until he comes out with 1.2 (the new version with the latest firmware) becuase you have to wipe data. Data wiping isn't a big deal if you use TB.
Ether way you go - Stock ROM or ViperDNA - The recommended way to wipe your device is this way:
(I'm using TWRP but CR should be similar, might be in different menus)
Backup everything using TB
Backup Pics and other docs on internal SD card (JUST IN CASE)
Make Nandroid Backup in Recovery
Wipe Menu-> Wipe Dalvik Cache (some like to wipe 3 times others think its just a waste of time)
Wipe Menu-> Wipe Cache (Factory Reset wipes cache but I like to wipe cache anyway just for completeness )
Wipe Menu-> Factory Reset
Wipe Menu-> System
Don't Format Data and Don't wipe Internal Storage. You will loose SD card contents.
Once you install your ROMS, flash your kernals, flash radios...whatever you want to do...You can restore apps and data from TB
As always, follow the ROMS instructions on their page for more information.
Only Restore User Apps and Data
Never restore any system apps in RED. May not be compatible with new ROM
You can however restore system Data that is in Yellow or Green (DATA ONLY)
Thanks devilsaces
Once I get everything updated and get a good nadroid of the newest firmware with all my apps I will definitely give ViperDNA a shot. I tried a few custom ROMs on my Thunderbolt, and while they were great to customize, they weren't always stable. Like I said I use my phone for work all day so I really need something dependable, and so far stock hasn't let me down.
Thanks again everyone, a lot of great info in this thread. Hopefully this will be useful to others as well.
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Thanks devilsaces
Once I get everything updated and get a good nadroid of the newest firmware with all my apps I will definitely give ViperDNA a shot. I tried a few custom ROMs on my Thunderbolt, and while they were great to customize, they weren't always stable. Like I said I use my phone for work all day so I really need something dependable, and so far stock hasn't let me down.
Thanks again everyone, a lot of great info in this thread. Hopefully this will be useful to others as well.
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Yeah, I had the same problem on the Thunderbolt, nothing stable. Viper however feels great. I would definitely freeze the HTC apps in Titanium Backup to get rid of the annoying pop ups. I noticed Viper has them uninstalled.
About to start, few more questions. The stock ROM I linked to (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2149095) says it doesn't have the new firmware, is that different from kernel or anything else? Do I need to flash that as well?
Spaded21 said:
About to start, few more questions. The stock ROM I linked to (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2149095) says it doesn't have the new firmware, is that different from kernel or anything else? Do I need to flash that as well?
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I'm actually running that rom right now.
You don't need to flash the radio if you don't want. If you are happy with your cell reception, and battery life, as well as wifi, then you can stay on the original radio.
Or if you'd like to try the new radio, you can flash that (once you have s-off) with this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38197525
I'm not sure if there is a radio flash prepared to go back to the original radio. Generally speaking, once to are s-off, you can change radios at will.
From what I understand, if you flash the rom you linked to, and the radio above, then you will have everything from the update, except the updated hboot. I haven't bothered changing my hboot. changing hboot won't affect the day to day operation of the phone, but it can change the fast boot commands that are available. Until I see a good reason, I am not going to worry about my hboot.
FYI: about changing radios, from what I understand, the radio file is the code that tells the phone how to communicate with the towers. It tells the phone how to adjust the power output of the radio according to the strength of signal from the cell. This can be very aggressive, leading to better signal, at the expense of battery life (increasing power output of the phone radio takes more power from the battery), or it can be conservative, with a little lower quality signal, but conserving battery life.
It seems that the engineers at the carriers are constantly tweaking the radio code to find a sweet spot between signal quality and battery life. Different carriers may tweak the radio for the same phone with a different priority. Sprint may prioritize signal, while verizon prioritizes battery. So each carrier may have a different radio file for phone that is in the same phone family. And then each carrier may have multiple radios. On the thunderbolt there were about 6 or 7 I think, but it is generally believed that newer radios work better than older ones.
Some people on xda will often experiment to see which radio file works best for them, depending on where they live and work.
I always try to be careful to only flash redid that others have reported to work with my device, rather than experimenting personally. I would think that you can brick your phone flashing the wrong radio file.
Sent from my HTC6435LVW using Tapatalk 2
Is that ROM deodexed? Or would I be better off using this one? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2080200
Spaded21 said:
About to start, few more questions. The stock ROM I linked to (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2149095) says it doesn't have the new firmware, is that different from kernel or anything else? Do I need to flash that as well?
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Firmware is the Android system. The Droid DNA is on on 4.1.1 (Jelly Bean). That version has not changed in the new OTA update so I don't know why that ROM even mentioned it.
The Kernal is the interface that alows the software to access the hardware. A more detailed explanation can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=ROM-VS-Kernel
HBOOT is 'kinda' like your BIOS in windows. It is the bootloader. It is the first thing that is loaded on your phone. This too I believe has not changed with the latest OTA update.
This is the change log for the 2.04.605.2 710RD update
Bluetooth connectivity and volume level for specific models have been improved
Enhanced reliability and stability of the Contacts List have been made
Enhanced Recent Apps functionality has been improved
Incoming messages display with the correct timestamp
Improvements to Hotspot connectivity have been made
Improvements to Audio Quality for wired headsets and earpieces have been made
Improvements to default browser for zooming capability have been made
User can load videos on HuluPlus
Wi-Fi Connectivity has been improved
As you can see it is mostly stuff related to your radio so the radio is the main part you would want. I personally just updated my radio and din't worry about anything else.
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Is that ROM deodexed? Or would I be better off using this one? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2080200
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I don't think it is deodexed otherwise it would tell you. I think deodexed is good if you want to theme.
I'm using the first one, which isn't deodexed. But I'm keeping my rom close to stock this week
Next week, when the Viper rom has been updated to 2.04, I'll be flashing that, and probably a theme.
You indicated that you aren't currently running any mods or themes. Unless you are looking to change, I would suggest you flash the first rom you linked, which is stock, except for the root capability being added to it.
The de-odexed rom you asked about will have been modified, deleting the .odex files so that the rom can further be customized by themes etc. When a phone boots a rom that is missing the .odex files, it will take longer to boot because it will essentially create the missing .odex files on the fly while booting. But when you are modding your rom, adding themes etc., existing .odex files get in the way, so that is why developers remove the .odex files, even though the rom will take longer to boot. Once the phone is booted, whether the rom was odexed or not becomes irrelevant.
For now, if you are looking to be on the latest radio and HTC rom, I suggest you get s-off, then flash the basic 2.04 rom (the one you linked to first), and the updated radios. Hopefully HTC will soon release the updated source files for the 2.04 kernel, and then we will have more customization.
If you are looking to customize now, I would get s-off, then flash the updated radios, but stay with a rom based on the original released rom and source (like Viper). The latest Viper rom (with updates to 1.1.3) has modifications so that you won't have to worry about getting bugged to update your ROM for 2.04. If you decided to go with Viper, it is a little confusing when viper is updating from 1.1 to 1.1.1 to 1.1.2 to 1.1.3, because it uses an over-the-air (OTA) update process similar to the stock OTA update. So you may see notices for updates - but the updates would be for Viper. Once you have gotten your phone s-off, you don't need to worry about updates causing problems.
Spaded21 said:
Is that ROM deodexed? Or would I be better off using this one? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2080200
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Ok so I have done everything, S-off, deodexed stock ROM, 3.4.10 kernel (it flashed with the ROM), and updated radio. I'm able to boot up but I don't have wifi.
Edit: Flashed the boot.img from the zip and it's working now.
Spaded21 said:
Ok so I have done everything, S-off, deodexed stock ROM, 3.4.10 kernel (it flashed with the ROM), and updated radio. I'm able to boot up but I don't have wifi.
Edit: Flashed the boot.img from the zip and it's working now.
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Congrats!
I think that rom you used wasn't set up properly to flash the boot.img from recovery, so that is why you had to do it manually. As time goes on (and there are more users with s-off), I think most new roms will be set up properly, so you shouldn't run into that again.
The whole process wasn't that hard, and using TiB made it really easy to get everything back.
So how do I go about removing bloatware now that I have S-Off and I am deodexed?
Although there are several ways to start removing bloatware, one of the easiest ways is to go into TiBu, and freeze apps. Make a nandroid backup first, and start slow.
Some apps have dependencies, you freeze one, and another might not work, like contacts and dialer.
After you have frozen an app, and are confident that it isn't necessary, you can delete it if you want.
Sent from my HTC6435LVW using Tapatalk 2
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Let me start off by saying I have been reading these forums for a couple days and I am just getting more confused.
Currently I have root, S-On, and no other mods or ROMs. I am getting the popup notification to update literally every time I turn on the screen. I can select defer and set a date about a week in the future from whatever day it is, but the popup comes back within the hour. A few times it even began downloading on its own (while on 4G as well, ~100 mb of data used up every time).
All I would like to do is somehow get my phone to be as if I were complete stock and accepted the OTA, keep root, and not have to wipe any data (or be able to restore a full nandroid). I am getting very frustrated with everything and once I think I understand it, someone throws out something new to me.
If anyone is willing to take some time to help me with this I would gladly make a donation, either to them or another party of their choosing
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I would highly recommend using the OTA blocking zip to kill the update messages. I'm not very handy with posting zips yet but search the threads for the disable OTA. I am on the Viper DNA rom also but I put the OTA blocking on just in case. If I were on my PC instead of my phone I could have posted the zip file for you. I'm sure with each rom the developer has added a file to make sure the OTA is killed but you can never be too sure.
Easiest way to get 2.04 OTA for rooted DNA phones
Hat-tip .Torrented from our discussion here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2152993&page=12
Get Facepalm S-Off: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155069
Download stock recovery from: http://goo.im/devs/Flyhalf205/DNA/dlx_recovery_signed.img
Flash the stock recovery using:
fastboot flash recovery dlx_recovery_signed.img
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Once you are on stock recovery, and assuming you're on stock kernel, it allows you to take the OTA update!
After you take the ota just flash the custom recovery of your choice again. CWM Touch is a good option: http://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager
Flash the superuser-busybox.zip to root.
This gives you a completely clean "factory" upgrade to 2.04, without losing any of your data (YMMV - so pls always take a backup before you do this).
It worked for me - yippee!!!
Software number: 2.04.605.2 710RD
Kernel version: 3.4.10-ga02d2c6
Baseband version: 1.01.01.0110
Whole procedure took less than 15 minutes
zanyguy said:
Hat-tip .Torrented from our discussion here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2152993&page=12
Get Facepalm S-Off: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155069
Download stock recovery from: http://goo.im/devs/Flyhalf205/DNA/dlx_recovery_signed.img
Flash the stock recovery using:
Once you are on stock recovery, and assuming you're on stock kernel, it allows you to take the OTA update!
After you take the ota just flash the custom recovery of your choice again. CWM Touch is a good option: http://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager
Flash the superuser-busybox.zip to root.
This gives you a completely clean "factory" up to 2.04, without losing any of your data (YMMV - so pls always take a backup before you do this).
It worked for me - yippee!!!
Software number: 2.04.605.2 710RD
Kernel version: 3.4.10-ga02d2c6
Baseband version: 1.01.01.0110
Whole procedure took less than 15 minutes
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Thanks zanyguy for the procedure and process outline. I have a question regarding my current format and was wondering if going to a stock rooted version would work for me. Since every end user is different then there are different things they want of course. For me the process is very simple. I like a very lean system. I also like to try and achieve many things to look as close to AOSP as I can get and keep functionality. My current setup has the phone unlocked, rooted, s-off and running Viper 1.1.3. My radio is the OTA update radio of 1.01.01.0110 and my kernel is the same 3.4.10-ga02d2c6. What I wonder is this. Should I even bother trying to flash the stock Rom? Is there any benefits to doing so? And if I do give it a spin should I just restore the Viper DNA rom or re flash anew?
Thanks