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I have always been confused by members who complain about the official SE firmware and the SE devs being completely incompetent and slow, when all of the custom ROMs have insufficiencies of their own and the devs are considered Gods. Especially, when our devs haven't brought us any of the major implementations themselves, like fully functional camera, 60 fps cap, 16mil colors, or multitouch.
No offense to our devs, because they have limitations by bootloader, but the problem isn't just bootloader, it's having someone who can create all the drivers, which was the case before bypass.
What is important to you? Fully functional or speed? Which bugs are major? A little lag on timescape or rebooting, or a touchscreen that freezes or becomes partially unresponsive?
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I have always been confused by members who complain about the official SE firmware and the SE devs being completely incompetent and slow, when all of the custom ROMs have insufficiencies of their own and the devs are considered Gods. Especially, when our devs haven't brought us any of the major implementations themselves, like fully functional camera, 60 fps cap, 16mil colors, or multitouch.
No offense to our devs, because they have limitations by bootloader, but the problem isn't just bootloader, it's having someone who can create all the drivers, which was the case before bypass.
What is important to you? Fully functional or speed? Which bugs are major? A little lag on timescape or rebooting, or a touchscreen that freezes or becomes partially unresponsive?
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Repost in general discussion i think it would be more usefull there
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rtblittlebrown said:
Repost in general discussion i think it would be more usefull there
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It's a Question, dumby. How about an actual opinion rather than playing moderator?
Many people have questions about the differences between custom ROMs and official firmware.
What about fully functional AND fast? try wolfbreak's rom
Jokes aside, remember that SE gave up on x10 updates before going back on their decision and giving us gingerbread. And honestly, only the 2.3 custom roms don't have fully working cameras, Froyo is pretty much complete and has been my daily rom for many months now, i can't thank SE for that.
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It's a Question, dumby. How about an actual opinion rather than playing moderator?
Many people have questions about the differences between custom ROMs and official firmware.
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Okay chill out a lot of things in general section are questions not trying to “play moderator“ more people look in general discussion anyways.Just tryin to help out
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a.monteiro said:
What about fully functional AND fast? try wolfbreak's rom
Jokes aside, remember that SE gave up on x10 updates before going back on their decision and giving us gingerbread. And honestly, only the 2.3 custom roms don't have fully working cameras, Froyo is pretty much complete and has been my daily rom for many months now, i can't thank SE for that.
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My confusion continues.....
There are ZERO 2.2+ ROMS that are fully functional. PERIOD.
Why do xda fanboys seem to think different?
If SE released a ROM that didn't have a fully functional camera, xda members would lose it.
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My confusion continues.....
There are ZERO 2.2+ ROMS that are fully functional. PERIOD.
Why do xda fanboys seem to think different?
If SE released a ROM that didn't have a fully functional camera, xda members would lose it.
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2,2 roms dont have camera zoom ooooh big deal
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rtblittlebrown said:
2,2 roms dont have camera zoom ooooh big deal
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Correct flash, zoom, or audio recording.
Official firmware only has lag on certain stock apps like Timescape or Face Recognition. Oh big deal.
Is 60 fps cap, 16mil colors, or multitouch a big deal? Not Really. It doesn't make our phones more usefull.
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Correct flash, zoom, or audio recording.
Official firmware only has lag on certain stock apps like Timescape or Face Recognition. Oh big deal.
Is 60 fps cap, 16mil colors, or multitouch a big deal? Not Really. It doesn't make our phones more usefull.
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Multitouch does
You can record audio on a lot of 2.2
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rtblittlebrown said:
Multitouch does
You can record audio on a lot of 2.2
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Again, it is not fully functional or not working. You are the "perfect" example of xda dev "Immortality".
agentJBM said:
Correct flash, zoom, or audio recording.
Official firmware only has lag on certain stock apps like Timescape or Face Recognition. Oh big deal.
Is 60 fps cap, 16mil colors, or multitouch a big deal? Not Really. It doesn't make our phones more usefull.
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I know what your going to say to me, your thinking I'm jumping down your throat etc but you've answered your own question there. Repair with seus then root and optimise with flashtool. That way your phone will be fully functional and fast with the benefits from JIT etc. Hope this helps out
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Why not try out ericks 2.1 rom which is extremely fast, like gingerbread speeds and literally everything works. Want teether then grab barnacle for free off the market. This rom has been my daily for perhaps a week or two at a guess but you won't be disappointed with broken features etc. Trust me really worth a shot trying it out
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The Gingerbread Man said:
I know what your going to say to me, your thinking I'm jumping down your throat etc but you've answered your own question there. Repair with seus then root and optimise with flashtool. That way your phone will be fully functional and fast with the benefits from JIT etc. Hope this helps out
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Absolutely not, this is about the differences between firmware and custom ROMs. We already know the differences. I just wanted to know who is a bigger majority...fully functional vs custom ROMs.
If you or any other moron suggests that speed is the number one customer concern of software, you are STUPID.
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Absolutely not, this is about the differences between firmware and custom ROMs. We already know the differences. I just wanted to know who is a bigger majority...fully functional vs custom ROMs.
If you or any other moron suggests that speed is the number one customer concern of software, you are STUPID.
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Here I say you can have both, full functionality and speed. I edited my previous post, check over that last bit I added. Oh btw really I'm not here to make arguments etc with you just purely to offer a little advice man. Peace, no need to call me stupid etc lol
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A suggestion, if your trying to find majority between custom rom and official why not call your thread 'custom roms VS stock, votes please' or something
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The Gingerbread Man said:
Here I say you can have both, full functionality and speed. The I edited my previous post, check that last bit I added over. Oh btw really I'm not here to make arguments etc with you just purely to offer a little advice man. Peace, no need to call me stupid etc lol
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NAME ONE ROM THAT IS FULLY FUNCTIONAL, and a fast Custom ROM at same time. You are a liar.
The Gingerbread Man said:
A suggestion, if your trying to find majority between custom rom and official why not call your thread 'custom roms VS stock, votes please' or something
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It's not about the differences between versions. It's about camera vs load speed.
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NAME ONE ROM THAT IS FULLY FUNCTIONAL, and a fast Custom ROM at same time. You are a liar.
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No, check here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=941745 fully functional and possibly the fastest rom out there. Camera and video recording work 100% perfect. It's a custom rom, it all works, its fast and i wish you try it out before accusing me of being a liar.
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My daily choose of rom for about 2 weeks, i left cm7 for this
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The reason Erick's rom is so speedy is that many features(which most people do not use) are disabled. Once you add them on again, the speed is comparable to stock firmware. I would say that is the closest 'custom rom' to being fully functional.
All the 2.2+ roms, while very nice and speedy, often have things that don't work.. like camera, and all of them suffer from poor battery life. A big gripe for me is the wifi disconnect issue with all 2.2 and above custom roms. I find it hard to believe that most people would prefer speed over functionality.
I've tried most of the roms out there in my year with the x10, and I always found myself coming back to stock.
And now with the arc, I don't have a choice There are no custom roms for bootloader locked arcs
pngface said:
The reason Erick's rom is so speedy is that many features(which most people do not use) are disabled. Once you add them on again, the speed is comparable to stock firmware. I would say that is the closest 'custom rom' to being fully functional.
All the 2.2+ roms, while very nice and speedy, often have things that don't work.. like camera, and all of them suffer from poor battery life. A big gripe for me is the wifi disconnect issue with all 2.2 and above custom roms. I find it hard to believe that most people would prefer speed over functionality.
I've tried most of the roms out there in my year with the x10, and I always found myself coming back to stock.
And now with the arc, I don't have a choice There are no custom roms for bootloader locked arcs
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I dunno man, iv been running it in a few different versions over last couple of weeks and if you apply all extras like me id still say much faster than stock.
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It's not about the differences between versions. It's about camera vs load speed.
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I don't see either camera or load speed in your title for this thread.
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THREAD RULES: We DO NOT ask for ETA or release dates in this thread!
So it seems like everybody goes crazy when it comes to the porting of CM7. But why?
I got my hands on a SGS2 with CM7 installed. Tried it, experienced it a little. From what I experienced the CM7 wasnt something that special. I asked the owner of the phone what he though of the ROM. To my surprise he said "it's just a ROM". He also mentioned that the stock ROM was smoother.
So now I'm wondering, why all the fuzz? What are you expecting from CM7? What makes it so special and so popular?
I'm pretty sure that a lot of people who craves for the porting of CM7 has no clue of this.
(off topic: tbh, i'd rather prefer MIUI.)
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My sister's Backflip has CyanogenMod 7 installed with 2.3.3 (Not even Froyo is released in Asia-Pacific regions) , it allows her to have OC/UV kernels from 600Mhz to 748Mhz . Her phone is wayyyyy less laggier than stock .(the difference is obviously obvious)
I'm not really good on those areas but arent you able to do that using SetCPU?
QNBT said:
I'm not really good on those areas but arent you able to do that using SetCPU?
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he said using oc/uv.. his sister device only support 600mhz by default, but because she uses custom oc/uv kernel, she can achieve 748mhz with help of setcpu. it depends on clock stepping that were supported by kernel, not by setcpu. setcpu only help to configure those clock stepping
Oh, never knew about that. From my use of SGA 800mhz is doing alright.
And as I mentioned, not really good at those areas so I didnt even know that "oc/uv" was overclock and undervolt xD
Some bugs fixed are gonna be fixed in CM. Camera quality should be bit better. Theme engine is built into ROM, so there will be much more themes for SGA. Im also excited about haptic feedback (not sure about this one).
And much more...
What i wish most for, is fix for SoD...
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What i wish most for, is fix for SoD...
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That depends on your hardware
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I'm not really excited for cyanogenmod, but for MIUI. I want it so bad!
MiUi is cyanogen based, if I'm not wrong.
First off I'm sure in cm there will be accurate battery reporting. No ****ty jumps in percentage.
Second, if CM is under way I believe developers will include uv, through kernels or modules. Overclocking though, may not be necessary.
Other than that the rom has so many tweaks. Over time and development CM will make our original firmware outmoded because it WILL get smoother.
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I'm not really excited for cyanogenmod, but for MIUI. I want it so bad!
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The same ;x but I would try CM too !
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Speed, stability, power, eyecandy, etc, etc.
But most of all; bugfixes and much more stability compared to stock firmware, as it is said that CM7 is build from the ground up so in my eyes it won't or even can't have the flaws that stock has.
Hey, it's only my opinion.
i think it`s only way to forget about SODs
Cyanogen is popular for a few reasons. It incoporates most worthwhile mods and runs normaly as well if not better than stock. Plus for me on a personal view it will help to get miui for sga.
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Cyanogen is popular for a few reasons. It incoporates most worthwhile mods and runs normaly as well if not better than stock. Plus for me on a personal view it will help to get miui for sga.
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You gave me a reason to wait for CM7 (Y)
hahaha..if you want to know..CM is a special ROM I guess, more unlock option on kernel than stock ROM, so I can say CM is a very customizing ROM.
for a prove, u can use an app called Tasker, on that app u can get more customized settings if u using CM.
CMIIW. sorry bad english
THIS ISNT A WHO's BETTER THIS IS A WHICH DO YOU PERFER AND WHY THREAD
Example:
I use AOKP Because I like the speeds that I get with it the fact that it's a more minimalistic rom and that fact that it has a very nice GUI to accompany it however, CM9 also holds a spot in my heart because I do like many of the features that Cyanogen Mod comes out with, that are sometimes delay pushed into AOKP due to stability checks.
Which do you perfer AOKP or CM9
AOKP Pro: Sleek, Fast, Large User Group to help bug resolve, Nice GUI, Hilarious Thread posts. Compatible with NEAK kernel.
AOKP Con: 2 Con's atm. Dialing on dial pad creates a very bizzar vibration bug in my device not others and google play is still having purchase bug's however I believe that is just my gapps
CM9 Pros: large dev crew, very speedy development, Nightly Builds if you wanna see whats going on, Cutting edge coding, very few bugs on stable releases.
CM9 Cons: Flashing Addicts HEROINE :|, Leaves more to the user to design and set up rather then a flash and go kinda rom.
Give your feedback, Why you chose the one you use.
Pro's / Con's
General thoughts.
I am simply trying to get the other-side of the spectrum
ohhhhh reddddddd. Where you be?
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Cmon virus, you should know better than to start a thread like this.
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Virus1x said:
THIS ISNT A WHO's BETTER THIS IS A WHICH DO YOU PERFER AND WHY THREAD
Example:
I use AOKP Because I like the speeds that I get with it the fact that it's a more minimalistic rom and that fact that it has a very nice GUI to accompany it however, CM9 also holds a spot in my heart because I do like many of the features that Cyanogen Mod comes out with, that are sometimes delay pushed into AOKP due to stability checks.
Which do you perfer AOKP or CM9
AOKP Pro: Sleek, Fast, Large User Group to help bug resolve, Nice GUI, Hilarious Thread posts. Compatible with NEAK kernel.
AOKP Con: 2 Con's atm. Dialing on dial pad creates a very bizzar vibration bug in my device not others and google play is still having purchase bug's however I believe that is just my gapps
CM9 Pros: large dev crew, very speedy development, Nightly Builds if you wanna see whats going on, Cutting edge coding, very few bugs on stable releases.
CM9 Cons: Flashing Addicts HEROINE :|, Leaves more to the user to design and set up rather then a flash and go kinda rom.
Give your feedback, Why you chose what you chose.
Pro's / Con's
General thoughts.
I am simply trying to get the other-side of the spectrum
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read that, I am in no way attempting to start a fight or anything I thought XDA was formed on the ideas of sharing ones creative genius thoughts and critisim regarding the development and modification of the ANDROID Devices thus, This thread I see is in no way causing any fights or breaking the guiding idea of what XDA is
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read that, I am in no way attempting to start a fight or anything I thought XDA was formed on the ideas of sharing ones creative genius thoughts and critisim regarding the development and modification of the ANDROID Devices thus, This thread I see is in no way causing any fights or breaking the guiding idea of what XDA is
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Then you haven't been around lately because comparison threads aren't allowed
Spelled preference wrong btw
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MWilkenson said:
ohhhhh reddddddd. Where you be?
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Don't worry. His more furious alter-ego has this one!
As stated, ANY VERSUS thread is not allowed.. So, nipping this one in the bud, and killing it here.
Hi guys! I'm a fresh possessor of this awesome device. Before that I got a glorious N1.
Since few days I'm trying to decide which is the best ROM between these two.
Could u please write me a brief review and why should I choose one with the respect to the other!? Which are the pro and cont?
Thanks for your support!
... and sry 4 my bad english!
Personally if you want to stay on stock I think omega works best for me. It seems smoother and I like the themes and tweakes.
But my personal choice is XLiteRom. You can even run touchwiz if you like it gets update all the time uses the aroma launcher for tons of custimaarion and the support is top notch.
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This is not part of the choices, but you should try winamlite
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Closed, "Best" rom threads are prohibited on XDA as there is no such thing as a best rom, and they often lead to flaming.
Figured to just make one thread for people to throw in their suggestions for ROMS for those people that were waiting for the official ICS, but was let down. Now they can go ROM out their phones to use as backup/main/fun, etc...
Should probably put down which ROMs have fingerprint and/or webtop support too for those that still want to use either or both of those functions.
Good Luck to all!
Motorola cancels ICS update for certain devices
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_cancels_ics_update_for_certain_devices-news-4878.php
im glad that im using razr maxx right now....bye2 atrix...
All-time favorite blur rom - NottachTrix!
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Another vote for nottachAtrix, very stable although a bit slower than CM7/9/10
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Nottachtrix if you like blur, neutrino if you like cm7, and epinter cm10 if you can live without video camera and hardware acceleration. Any of these are great daily drivers and will hold you over until you get a new phone.
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i vote for Atrix-MROM, killer battery life (best of any rom imho), smooth and pretty stable.
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Best ROM For Atrix 4G
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i vote for Atrix-MROM, killer battery life (best of any rom imho), smooth and pretty stable.
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AOKP JB Build 3.0. Its simply the best option. Very stable.
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AOKP JB Build 3.0. Its simply the best option. Very stable.
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If you want JB. And you should, tho ignorance is bliss.. don't try it if you like GB. FP scanner, hwa, web top, camcorder... beyond that thebills's aokp is incredibly stable and smooth in ways GB will never be. 24hrs + standby
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1836674
Now that the official one is canceled, the best rble is MaxBlur 5.1.. It have everything. I dont like CM ROMS the modified originals one are a lot better. Also install I install ubuntu webtop..
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i vote for Atrix-MROM, killer battery life (best of any rom imho), smooth and pretty stable.
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Hey guys are all the CM based roms broken when it comes to fingerprint reader and Webtop? What is the fastest/best ROM with FPReader and Webtop that work?
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Hey guys are all the CM based roms broken when it comes to fingerprint reader and Webtop? What is the fastest/best ROM with FPReader and Webtop that work?
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What do you mean "FP broken"? As far as I know, FP works just fine with all CM7 ROMs.
Webtop never worked with any CM and very likely never will. There are alternatives to webtop so not a huge deal.
I gotta say...honestly although the intention of this thread is good, it's really not helping all that much, there have been like 10 different rec's already. I mean I guess at least it's a place to start, but I wish there was some info about each rom rather than saying "this one's the best." Maybe it would be nice to have links to the roms and a link on how to install roms? I'm not expecting to be spoonfed here, my Atrix is rooted and the bootloader is unlocked, but I haven't been following the rom scene at all waiting for ICS so I'm a bit lost. Just my input, thanks.
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Maybe it would be nice to have links to the roms and a link on how to install roms?
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Did you read my previous post above? I gave link for the rom, installation guide is in first post...
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I gotta say...honestly although the intention of this thread is good, it's really not helping all that much, there have been like 10 different rec's already. I mean I guess at least it's a place to start, but I wish there was some info about each rom rather than saying "this one's the best." Maybe it would be nice to have links to the roms and a link on how to install roms? I'm not expecting to be spoonfed here, my Atrix is rooted and the bootloader is unlocked, but I haven't been following the rom scene at all waiting for ICS so I'm a bit lost. Just my input, thanks.
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There are separate threads about each and every ROM mentioned. Do you seriously expect people to copy descriptions and feature lists for each and every ROM? This is not a ROM summary thread, it says right in the title these are just RECOMMENDATIONS. Just go to the respective thread and read up.
IMO this thread (and a few others like it) is pretty pointless anyway, because the question "which ROM is best" is pretty stupid. There's no such thing as "the best ROM", this is just too individual. Different people look for different things in a ROM. You should just find ones that seem interesting and try them out yourself, and then decide which one works best FOR YOU PERSONALLY.
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There are separate threads about each and every ROM mentioned. Do you seriously expect people to copy descriptions and feature lists for each and every ROM? This is not a ROM summary thread, it says right in the title these are just RECOMMENDATIONS. Just go to the respective thread and read up.
IMO this thread (and a few others like it) is pretty pointless anyway, because the question "which ROM is best" is pretty stupid. There's no such thing as "the best ROM", this is just too individual. Different people look for different things in a ROM. You should just find ones that seem interesting and try them out yourself, and then decide which one works best FOR YOU PERSONALLY.
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The OP says ROM recommendations not "the best ROM" as you led the readers to believe.
Why don't you all [Members] policing XDA just ignore a thread that you don't like instead of posting your dislikes about it? I think that is more waste of XDA resources than the OP. An ignored thread would quickly disappears anyway but the feuds between members would lead to unproductive environment. Just saying!
Mrom
I would recomend to stay with a GB rom for at least the next 2 months. For me the best one is Mrom which is based on CM7 and has given me the best battery life.
If you want to try a JB rom the I strongly recomend Epinter´s. It´s updated very often and runs smoothly and has very little bugs.
My recommendation would be any kind of ROM which will install on a Samsung device.
CM7 is rock solid and a very trustworthy daily driver for the Atrix. Great battery life - IMHO better battery life than stock. Highly recommended!...
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