Long story, but I sent my device back to noikia for a problem not charging after battery completely died. They said it was no problem. I am using an after market charger. Would someone with a 710 take a look at their charger and read out the specifications for it?
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Ryan
Rexmundi000 said:
Long story, but I sent my device back to noikia for a problem not charging after battery completely died. They said it was no problem. I am using an after market charger. Would someone with a 710 take a look at their charger and read out the specifications for it?
Thanks
Ryan
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I have a Lumia 800 but it is 5VDC, 1A output. Nearly all smart phones use this specification. Some older/less powerful chargers are 0.5A (typically what computer USB outputs).
Hmm I looked it up and I am using a 1A on my charger. however, factory is 1.2, is that going to be a problem? It will not charge and the battery is completely dead.
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Hmm I looked it up and I am using a 1A on my charger. however, factory is 1.2, is that going to be a problem? It will not charge and the battery is completely dead.
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Stock Lumia 710 charger is 5v 1200mA
So long as the charger you are using is 5v and at least 1200mA it will be fine
Problems would only begin if it was more or less than 5v and if it was less than 1200mA (You could have 5000mA charger and if it was 5v it would be fine)
So if your charger is 1000mA, it might not be able to charge the phone properly, or at least not with it powered on, and it could damage the charger because the phone is pulling too much from it
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Stock Lumia 710 charger is 5v 1200mA
So long as the charger you are using is 5v and at least 1200mA it will be fine
Problems would only begin if it was more or less than 5v and if it was less than 1200mA (You could have 5000mA charger and if it was 5v it would be fine)
So if your charger is 1000mA, it might not be able to charge the phone properly, or at least not with it powered on, and it could damage the charger because the phone is pulling too much from it
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It is strange that the 710 uses a 1.2A charger, as the 800/900 are 1.
ibjaredu said:
It is strange that the 710 uses a 1.2A charger, as the 800/900 are 1.
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Maybe because you can swap out the battery for a higher powered one in the 710 ?
Is the 800 a 1300mAh too ?
The 800 is 1450mah and the 900 is 1830.
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The 800 is 1450mah and the 900 is 1830.
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I think the 710 has a different LCD to the 800> maybe the screen in the 710 pulls more power, but then again if that were the case, they would have to have a bigger battery too
lol, no idea then
Now I am stumped. I put the battery to a volt meter and it reads full 3.8v. The 710 will not power on at all. It viberates sometimes but will not power on. I also cannot get a computer to see it. It just came back from nokia and they said it was fine. Now I am confused.
Hmm.
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So, I don't know if this is just my device or maybe already known. I don't see it here(or google) so I am going to post this so others can find this info faster than the 2hrs it took me.
Some Li-Ion batteries have a low max charge rate. Meaning you cant "over-current"(mA "Milli-Amps" or A "Amps") them too much(saves life). Well my Razr just showed me this. This can allow you to charge the battery faster if you have one that is tolerant of the "over-current".
Apparently maximum for the Droid RAZR is somewhere between 850mA and 1000mA
Tried using an HTC @ 1A and no joy.. wont charge.. actually says charging.. but the battery seems to have flipped the switch to not charge; and just continues to discharge normally; even the hidden status(dial *#*#4636#*#*) says charging but obviously not! Tried different HTC models and different cables. I am now only using my Moto supplied cable.
Even after it was dead. It would show the charging screen @ 0% and the light would be red. Stating that you cant turn it on cause there is not enough juice to finish boot. It would never go Green no matter how long I waited(10-15 minutes) usually only takes 5 minutes.
Found my OG Droid charger; remembering that it was lower than 1A. It actually is 5v 850mA. Charging away!
Remember the stock charger is rate @ 5v 750mA - this means you can probably use chargers from 700ish to maybe 900ish mA. I cannot confirm these estimates. Anyone else seen any other rates work?
Hope this helps someone down the road. I know it would have helped me!
MODS - Please, if this is wrong info please DO NOT HESITATE to notify me/remove/edit my post. I just want the right info somewhere, cause it was not well documented anywhere i searched via google.
Also - Thinking more on the subject - this could be the "Authorized Charger" bull that Moto likes to put on its devices i.e. The RAZR flip-phone was notoriuosly bad about this. Even my old nextel "beep beep" had this problem with OEM chargers. Had to spend $15+ on the official one. Again - if this info is wrong in ANY way please fix it or remove it.
use official 850mA charger and be happy. Motorola also confirmed using 1A chargers without any problems but any ways original ones are recommended.
Brilliant, my problem now makes sense!
Couple of questions: What does this mean to charging via USB instead of mains? Is it the plug or the cable that is rated to a certain ampage?
One more question. I found another usb plug rated to 300mA. I presume using this will just mean the phone charges slower? It won't have any negative effect on the battery?
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Just adding my experience... Have been using an iphone wall charger w/ the usb jack on it and the supplied motorola cable. Its listed as 1000Mah. Battery Monitor Widget shows it charging around 945Mah. Doesn't get hot, charges like a bat out of hell. Down side is phone is about 60% unresponsive during the charge.
Found a little info on this. Apparently different cables, when plugged in, short different contacts to let the device know what it's plugged in to. Resistors change the current. Audio out can tell if it's plugged into a dock versus USB versus wall charger. The Verizon replacement didn't work for me, but an hard incredible one did. They both charged but only the htc recognized computer connections
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My stock Razr wall charger is 750mA. I use a 1000mA car charger and it works fine - doesn't get hot and charges faster.
But sometimes you do have to be careful. I had a friend who's noob mother fried her Bionic with a charger that was too many mA for it to handle.
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strange... my stock charger's rated 850mA.. maybe because i use international GSM version of RAZR.. but it charge just fine..
but even i tried charge it with blackberry's 700 mA charger or my ipod touch 1000mA charger it both charge just fine.. and it feels like the 1000mA charge slightly faster..
too bad i broke my old nokia n900 1200 mA charger..
I'm using an HTC 1A charger: the RAZR doesn't become hot while charging and it's charging faster.
The limit is 1A anyway.
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The limit is 1A anyway.
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dang! so i guess nokia 1200mA charger won't be any good then..
thanks for the info though.. i was thinking of getting myself a nokia charger after read this thread..
Ever since my first motorola I've noticed that the stock charger is 5.1 volts.
Charging with other brands always seem to give worse battery life.
My old Rizr only lasted a day when charged from the USB of my computer, but 6-7 days with the original part.
Some of that is apparent with my car charger too, it says it's taking charge, but sometimes it will run backwards with GPS running..
I experience the charger issue last night.
I had low battery when I went to sleep, put the cable in and it said charging.
Came late to work because the phone drained the battery instead of charging. I used a 5V 1.2A charger and its been working great until last night. And I noticed my original charger is 5.1V 850mA for the Razr.
You learn something new every day!
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I posted this in Perseus thread too, but unfortunately i didn't receive any answers.
Guys, my gf will be getting a 2.1A + 1.0A dual usb charger because her old one died, what is the safe limit for the charging control so i don't fry her S3?
Will it be ok around 1400mah?
Thanks.
I suggest you stick with stock value which is 1000 mA over wall charger and 475 mA over USB.
In theory, yes, the i9300 can take with maximum up to 2100 mA but I'm sure nobody will recommend it.
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I suggest you stick with stock value which is 1000 mA over wall charger and 475 mA over USB.
In theory, yes, the i9300 can take with maximum up to 2100 mA but I'm sure nobody will recommend it.
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So you think going above 1000mah could be dangerous to the device?
The charger supports 2.1A, or atleast that's what it says.
(When i had an S3 too, i set usb input charge to 850mah because i had usb 3.0 on my pc and it was charging just fine!Don't know if it matters or not though.)
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So you think going above 1000mah could be dangerous to the device?
The charger supports 2.1A, or atleast that's what it says.
(When i had an S3 too, i set usb input charge to 850mah because i had usb 3.0 on my pc and it was charging just fine!Don't know if it matters or not though.)
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I know, the chargers for tablets such as iPad has output capacity of 2100 mA.
And I think, stock value set to 1000 mA is for good reason like archive minimum charge time and less dangerous to the device and battery.
One thing I sure is that, if you charge with 2.1 A, your battery will probably heat up like hell, and that high temperature is NOT GOOD for Li-ion battery as we have for i9300.
For myself, I always set it down to 800 mA for over night charging (I guess you won't set up a alarm in the middle of night to wake you up to unplug the charger, will ya? ). And I do use 2.1 A charging, in case of EMERGENCY like I have to go out for long time and my battery is low so I have to make the battery charged as much as I possibly could. But still, it is NOT recommended.
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Since I bought a brand new L920 today, then I used my 2A output charger to charge L920. It didn't rise 1% after 15 mins, but I use 1A then It back to normal about 3 mins for 1%.
What going on with my L920
Is there any limitation on usb charger?
Thanks
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Since I bought a brand new L920 today, then I used my 2A output charger to charge L920. It didn't rise 1% after 15 mins, but I use 1A then It back to normal about 3 mins for 1%.
What going on with my L920
Is there any limitation on usb charger?
Thanks
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Did you use the same cable between the two chargers and the phone? It seems to me that not all cable that might fit the port actually work the same. I have seen with my Lumia that certain cable will not work with it's wall charger. I have also seen that certain chargers such as my HTC 1 amp will not work even though I use the same cable that works with the original charger. So in short just use what you find works. I now rely on the wireless charger unless I have done some heavy usage at work. Then I just use the cable I know works and plug it into a pc.
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Since I bought a brand new L920 today, then I used my 2A output charger to charge L920. It didn't rise 1% after 15 mins, but I use 1A then It back to normal about 3 mins for 1%.
What going on with my L920
Is there any limitation on usb charger?
Thanks
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If your 2A output charger is made by some non-name chinese company it could turn-out to be not more than 600mA charger and your Nokia charger is closer to real 1A( I think there were some test in the internet and it's around 850-900mA real-output).
I have an old 0.7A charger and was told that a 1A charger would be faster..
But how far higher can I go? Is there a 2A charger?
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I have an old 0.7A charger and was told that a 1A charger would be faster..
But how far higher can I go? Is there a 2A charger?
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1A is stock for S3.
Maximum recommended is 1.5A,more may brick your whole device,if not the battery.
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I have an old 0.7A charger and was told that a 1A charger would be faster..
But how far higher can I go? Is there a 2A charger?
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I guess using modified"boeffla or googymax " kernels will let your phone charge much faster
Maximum rating of the charger is irrelevant, the phone will only draw a safe amount. If you override that limit then you may blow the internal charging IC or rupture the battery.
Don't post questions in the general section.
The S3 can't charger faster than 1A, it will only draw what it can, I've used a HP Touchpad 2A charger since the day I got the phone, it still won't draw more than 1A. You can use custom kernals to draw more, but you'll find lots of stories of people who did it and fried the charging board.
I tested using 1.1Ah, and for the storioes I've read, it's the maximum value you can use with security.
Hi, you can have more than 1A, but you need to change the limit with boeffla (i made it for the USB charge)
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The S3 can't charger faster than 1A, it will only draw what it can, I've used a HP Touchpad 2A charger since the day I got the phone, it still won't draw more than 1A. You can use custom kernals to draw more, but you'll find lots of stories of people who did it and fried the charging board.
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I tested using 1.1Ah, and for the storioes I've read, it's the maximum value you can use with security.
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Using 1.2A from months in boeffla kernel without any trouble, using stock charger.
I tried 2A once and it was fast (0-100 in 1hr) but its not recommended 1.5 max
Also I increased charging speed to 1600mah that time and it was working
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Dramatically increasing charging current will also dramatically decrease battery service life
Just get a second battery and desktop cradle, instant recharging without any wear on the phone motherboard.
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Hi, i am getting a new charger for my tablet pc which uses a 5.35V 2A output charger and was wondering whether i can use this to charge my galaxy S3. so that i do not have to carry 2 chargers?
IS it advisable?
My S3 came with a 1A charger, my wife's S3 came with a 2A charger. I used her charger a few times and it worked fine. As of last week my charger is working fine, if I use hers with my phone I only shows "USB" in the battery info and takes forever to charge. I don't know if her charger did damage to my phone/battery but that felt strange, so I stopped using her charger.
I know there is a thread about what charger to buy, but I have a specs question. Mine z5 came with the International charger and I am in the US. I noted it is 5v and 1.5a. I have a 5v 1a charger on hand. Can I use that?
Sure, it will just take longer to charge.
No lasting negative effects on the battery?
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No lasting negative effects on the battery?
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Most certainly no negative effects. In theory it should actually be better for the battery to charge it with less current, but I don't know if that is true.
Different topic: I read that there are multiple versions of the Z5 (US, Europe, ...) and that they support different LTE frequencies. So maybe you want to check if your mobile connection works as intended, if you don't have the US version.
My phone is showing LTE after choosing my apn settings.
I tried using a 5V 1A charger with my phone and it doesnt seem to work. (It works fine on my old phone) The charge light keeps turning on and off. The vibration pulse you hear when it starts charging keeps pulsing too.
Better use an HIGHER amperage, than lower!! Charger will adapte it to phone specifics...A lower amperage will reduce your battery capacity in long time.
I once connected my Z5C to an old 500mA charger (caught the wrong cable) and kept using it a bit (screen on, etc.) and it gave me a nag screen that said that the charger is not suitable because apparently the battery drain from usage was more than what trickled back in.
However, if left alone even a 500mA charger should eventually charge the phone, taking much longer though.
Generally, with chargers, you need to get the voltage right. If the Amperage is higher that what the OEM charger is it does not matter. The electronics in the device limit the charge to what the device can handle. The Amperage on the charger is the max it can deliver. In other words, the charger does not pump 2.5A into the phone forcefully, the phone just nibbles whatever it can take (say 1,5A).
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Better use an HIGHER amperage, than lower!! Charger will adapte it to phone specifics...A lower amperage will reduce your battery capacity in long time.
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Any reliable source for that? The charging will be slower - yes, but I seriously doubt, that this has negative long-term effects on the capacity.
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Any reliable source for that? The charging will be slower - yes, but I seriously doubt, that this has negative long-term effects on the capacity.
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Just try it by yourself for few days
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I think you need a 2A charger to be sure with the Z5c. Most of my older chargers take hours to charge it, and the car USB port (Nissan Qashqai 2015) barely charges it at all.
The UCH20 that came with the phone, takes 2 hours 15 mins to charge the phone fully. I got a quick charger which takes around 1 hour and 10 mins at max
Wow, really?
It is basic electronics. The voltage must be the exact one. Amperage is what the device draws , therefore the charger must be capable to provide a minimum not a maximum.
I repeat, it is basic electronics!
Now a more pertinent question :
What are the voltages for quick charge ? Does anyone know?
If someone has a original charger with quick charge can you please state what voltages are written on it?
Should be 2 or 3 voltages with lowest 5V
Edit : Found myself the info on Sony UK website of a Sony charger.
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[email protected],
[email protected]
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Better use an HIGHER amperage, than lower!! Charger will adapte it to phone specifics...A lower amperage will reduce your battery capacity in long time.
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I also want a source for that... It's the first time in my life i hear it's the opposite... and i have been charging this phone with 1 amp or 500mA (with pc usb) for the past 4 years, battery is still fine. Only used a 1.5A charger a few times.
On the other hand, my sisters z5 had a swollen battery a year ago, she always used quick chargers...
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Just try it by yourself for few days
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What do you mean by that?
you are not going to notice battery degradation in just a few days of charging...
EDIT: i only notice now that i accidentally replied to a post from years ago, sorry for that...