I have an old 0.7A charger and was told that a 1A charger would be faster..
But how far higher can I go? Is there a 2A charger?
Track607 said:
I have an old 0.7A charger and was told that a 1A charger would be faster..
But how far higher can I go? Is there a 2A charger?
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1A is stock for S3.
Maximum recommended is 1.5A,more may brick your whole device,if not the battery.
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Track607 said:
I have an old 0.7A charger and was told that a 1A charger would be faster..
But how far higher can I go? Is there a 2A charger?
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I guess using modified"boeffla or googymax " kernels will let your phone charge much faster
Maximum rating of the charger is irrelevant, the phone will only draw a safe amount. If you override that limit then you may blow the internal charging IC or rupture the battery.
Don't post questions in the general section.
The S3 can't charger faster than 1A, it will only draw what it can, I've used a HP Touchpad 2A charger since the day I got the phone, it still won't draw more than 1A. You can use custom kernals to draw more, but you'll find lots of stories of people who did it and fried the charging board.
I tested using 1.1Ah, and for the storioes I've read, it's the maximum value you can use with security.
Hi, you can have more than 1A, but you need to change the limit with boeffla (i made it for the USB charge)
theronkinator said:
The S3 can't charger faster than 1A, it will only draw what it can, I've used a HP Touchpad 2A charger since the day I got the phone, it still won't draw more than 1A. You can use custom kernals to draw more, but you'll find lots of stories of people who did it and fried the charging board.
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user3k said:
I tested using 1.1Ah, and for the storioes I've read, it's the maximum value you can use with security.
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Using 1.2A from months in boeffla kernel without any trouble, using stock charger.
I tried 2A once and it was fast (0-100 in 1hr) but its not recommended 1.5 max
Also I increased charging speed to 1600mah that time and it was working
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Dramatically increasing charging current will also dramatically decrease battery service life
Just get a second battery and desktop cradle, instant recharging without any wear on the phone motherboard.
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Hi, i am getting a new charger for my tablet pc which uses a 5.35V 2A output charger and was wondering whether i can use this to charge my galaxy S3. so that i do not have to carry 2 chargers?
IS it advisable?
My S3 came with a 1A charger, my wife's S3 came with a 2A charger. I used her charger a few times and it worked fine. As of last week my charger is working fine, if I use hers with my phone I only shows "USB" in the battery info and takes forever to charge. I don't know if her charger did damage to my phone/battery but that felt strange, so I stopped using her charger.
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Hey guys
I was wondering , since it takes this phone over 3 hours to fully charge... If I buy a Nokia charger with an output of 1.2 mah ,would it take a shorter time for this phone to charge? Its own charger has 0.7 mah output..
No. SGS2 has a capped charge rate of 650 as far as I know.
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yes but it might get hot. i used to charge with playbook's charger all was well. but now i use the samsung S2 charger. but i never checked if it was charging faster
Ok, thank you both
atifsh said:
yes but it might get hot. i used to charge with playbook's charger all was well. but now i use the samsung S2 charger. but i never checked if it was charging faster
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Charging is controlled by the phone only and varies depending on whether it detects a USB data link or not. And the battery temperature.
So, provided the charger is rated at 700mA or greater, the phone will charge at the fastest rate it sets. On USB, the charge rate is lower. USB 2 ports have a maximum of 500mA output... and if the phone is on, the charge rate is often lowered further.
I use an iPAD2 charger for convenience, which is rated at 2A. The phone charges fine, but only at the same rate as the stock Samsung charger.
LenAsh said:
Charging is controlled by the phone only and varies depending on whether it detects a USB data link or not. And the battery temperature.
So, provided the charger is rated at 700mA or greater, the phone will charge at the fastest rate it sets. On USB, the charge rate is lower. USB 2 ports have a maximum of 500mA output... and if the phone is on, the charge rate is often lowered further.
I use an iPAD2 charger for convenience, which is rated at 2A. The phone charges fine, but only at the same rate as the stock Samsung charger.
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thanks for the info dont know about S2 but i know few brands allow that. blackberry is one of them, using playbook charger on their phones charge them faster but battery gets hot.
I cant find the exact post to link it for you but I'm sure the devs had a discussion about it in the siyah dev thread.
Mains capped at 600 by the device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1263838&page=1406
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Well, I needed more actual facts than technical stuff. So the idea is not to buy the nokia charger cause the sgs2 wont charge faater. This sucks. HTC evo 3d battery charges to full in abou 1,5 hours and it lasts enough so...I really dont understand samsung
In my ROM there is an option to enable fast charging. If you enable that, a charger with a higher mAh will make sense.
Probably the heat issue is the main reason for not implementing a higher charge rate. Battery degradation world be another.
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I don't think you should use a bigger charger with a higher voltage to charge your phone, the battery for your SGS2 might not be able to handle the amount of voltage from the charger
MacBreQ said:
In my ROM there is an option to enable fast charging. If you enable that, a charger with a higher mAh will make sense.
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Thanks but I prefer stock roms
Hi
I can not charge my Galaxy Player 5.0 from mobile chargers using AA batteries.
Tried several chargers, only one 2AA cheap "noname" is working.
Ayone have the same problem ?
Any ideas ?
regards
sztajmes
sztajmes said:
Hi
I can not charge my Galaxy Player 5.0 from mobile chargers using AA batteries.
Tried several chargers, only one 2AA cheap "noname" is working.
Ayone have the same problem ?
Any ideas ?
regards
sztajmes
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You need to look at the output amp rating of these chargers. Chances are the output rating is too low to charge the player. These players came with .75mA chargers and the one you are using is probably kicking out too little of the "juice". Even if it registers, I bet it will take for EVER to even go 5% charged... You need a better charger.
cvcduty said:
You need to look at the output amp rating of these chargers. Chances are the output rating is too low to charge the player. These players came with .75mA chargers and the one you are using is probably kicking out too little of the "juice". Even if it registers, I bet it will take for EVER to even go 5% charged... You need a better charger.
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Nope.
Is not charging at all.
SGP 5.0 AC charger is rated .7 A but it can be charged from computer USB ( 5V .5A)
I can get the battery icon to blink with thunder, but is not charging.
Tekkeon is rated 1A and is not charging.
Soshine is rated .4 A and is charging my old LG phone, 0.75A.But not the SGP.
Noname charger from DX, rated .5 A is charging SGP with no problem.
Problem with electronics ?
Anyone ?
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sztajmes said:
Nope.
Is not charging at all.
SGP 5.0 AC charger is rated .7 A but it can be charged from computer USB ( 5V .5A)
I can get the battery icon to blink with thunder, but is not charging.
Tekkeon is rated 1A and is not charging.
Soshine is rated .4 A and is charging my old LG phone, 0.75A.But not the SGP.
Noname charger from DX, rated .5 A is charging SGP with no problem.
Problem with electronics ?
Anyone ?
sztajmes
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Batteries in the charger maybe not powerful enough, just because your LG phones charger has the same output as the SGP charger does not mean they have the same minimum power requirement to charge. remember 2 AA batteries is only 3 Volts and so the charger has a transformer (not the optimus prime kind, lol) that ramps the volt up, the problem is when ramping up voltage your dropping amperage and without knowing the amperage of the double A's your using is impossible to do the math to see if that would give you the min output to charge your SGP.
It's also worth mentioning that those AA chargers are meant to be an EMERGENCY BACKUP and you should NOT use them to regularly charge your devices battery as this method of "charging" and I use that word lightly is very unhealthy for your players battery.
daniel644 said:
Batteries in the charger maybe not powerful enough, just because your LG phones charger has the same output as the SGP charger does not mean they have the same minimum power requirement to charge. remember 2 AA batteries is only 3 Volts and so the charger has a transformer (not the optimus prime kind, lol) that ramps the volt up, the problem is when ramping up voltage your dropping amperage and without knowing the amperage of the double A's your using is impossible to do the math to see if that would give you the min output to charge your SGP.
It's also worth mentioning that those AA chargers are meant to be an EMERGENCY BACKUP and you should NOT use them to regularly charge your devices battery as this method of "charging" and I use that word lightly is very unhealthy for your players battery.
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Tekkeon MP1580 problem solved
If you want charge from Tekkeon you have to connect together two center pins inside the USB socket of the unit.
sztajmes
Wondering if anyone has tried it? I remember reading that the wall charger from my Tab 10.1 was more powerful than for the phones because it would take FOREVER to charge. Wonder if it's compatible with our S3?
Anyone?
I believe that anything that charges on USB is just getting 5 vt, so any charger would work with any phone/tab if it is charging through USB. I would guess that the wall chargers are also putting out 5vt and would therefor be fine with any mini USB plug charging device.
Easy to check, plug it in and see how it works. (Buy insurance first )
Yes,
I have been using my tab 10.1 charger since the first day I got my sgs3.
It DOES charge faster, about an hour for a full charge from <8%
No problems I have noticed, and I am using blazer rom.
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gyrra said:
Yes,
I have been using my tab 10.1 charger since the first day I got my sgs3.
It DOES charge faster, about an hour for a full charge from <8%
No problems I have noticed, and I am using blazer rom.
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An hour, eh? Nice. I thought it would charge faster but not that fast.
And im definitely talking about the using an outlet, not usb.
Thanks for the confirmation!
No problem,
I knew you meant the AC charger, and that's why I posted. USB charging is slow until someone adds in the fastcharge ability to a kernel for our s3's
Glad I could be of help.
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Gave you your first thanks!
if this helps i used a blackberry charger and it worked.. i have had no issues.
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lostsoul565 said:
if this helps i used a blackberry charger and it worked.. i have had no issues.
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Not talking about blackberry either. The wall charger for the Tab is more powerful than phone chargers. Thats the only charger im asking about.
tony yayo said:
Not talking about blackberry either. The wall charger for the Tab is more powerful than phone chargers. Thats the only charger im asking about.
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Any modern device will limit its own current draw to what is needed to do the job. While it is certainly possible for a charger to be underpowered resulting in slower charging it should not be possible for a charger to be overpowered. That is, there is some maximum charge speed the phone is capable of and that limit is expressed as its maximum mA draw. a charger that sources under the max mA will be slower than one that meets or exceeds it. A charger that exceeds the max mA will not charge any faster than any other charger that also exceeds the device's max mA regardless of the differences in their source capacity.
So, if that makes sense to you then you should know it ought to be safe to use a powerful charger and that if faster charging results then the stock charger is in fact underpowered for the device it was paired with.
Disclaimer: Any engineer worth his salt is going to current limit the charging circuit on the phone. However, if this were not the case then providing increased charging capacity will most certainly damage the device.
crabapples said:
Any modern device will limit its own current draw to what is needed to do the job. While it is certainly possible for a charger to be underpowered resulting in slower charging it should not be possible for a charger to be overpowered. That is, there is some maximum charge speed the phone is capable of and that limit is expressed as its maximum mA draw. a charger that sources under the max mA will be slower than one that meets or exceeds it. A charger that exceeds the max mA will not charge any faster than any other charger that also exceeds the device's max mA regardless of the differences in their source capacity.
So, if that makes sense to you then you should know it ought to be safe to use a powerful charger and that if faster charging results then the stock charger is in fact underpowered for the device it was paired with.
Disclaimer: Any engineer worth his salt is going to current limit the charging circuit on the phone. However, if this were not the case then providing increased charging capacity will most certainly damage the device.
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Basically youre saying the phone itself wont pull in anymore draw than it knows it can handle. So I guess if it does charge faster than great. Long as it dont fry im happy!
Just curious if there is an app or something similar that would show how many amps are being provided when charging through a wall charger/USB powered hub? The reason I ask is that I'm thinking of buying a powered USB 3.0 Hub. The adapter that came with our phone says it's 2 Amp, so I am assuming our phone can pull 2 amps for charging. Just wanted to verify in some way that a 2 Amp dedicated port would really work for this phone.
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Just curious if there is an app or something similar that would show how many amps are being provided when charging through a wall charger/USB powered hub? The reason I ask is that I'm thinking of buying a powered USB 3.0 Hub. The adapter that came with our phone says it's 2 Amp, so I am assuming our phone can pull 2 amps for charging. Just wanted to verify in some way that a 2 Amp dedicated port would really work for this phone.
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When I get home, I'll download the kernel source and see if I can find out how much power it draws during charging. I doubt however, that it will draw 2A during charging as most chargers are rated to supply more power than the phone will accept.
Yeah, 2A seems like that could melt a battery charging that fast. Someone sent me a private message and told me to try CurrentWidget. I threw that on the phone and it registers as 1A while charging. But it appears like the widget doesn't break it down with decimals. For instance it could be charging with 1.8A and wouldn't know it. I put it in a standard USB port and it reported as charging with 0 Amps but the battery was indeed charging.
I took a quick look at the N7100 (International Note 2) source posted on Github by CM and it looks like AC charger is 650mA, USB is 450mA. It's a little hard to tell what exactly it's using for charging, so I'll try to verify that when I get home and have a chance to take a better look.
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Yeah, 2A seems like that could melt a battery charging that fast. Someone sent me a private message and told me to try CurrentWidget. I threw that on the phone and it registers as 1A while charging. But it appears like the widget doesn't break it down with decimals. For instance it could be charging with 1.8A and wouldn't know it. I put it in a standard USB port and it reported as charging with 0 Amps but the battery was indeed charging.
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A 3100mAh Lithium Ion battery can easily handle a full 2A charge rate. The ideal charge profile for Lithium Ion is a CC/CV profile, starts at constant current between like 3V and 4V, which most LI batters can take a rate of 1C, meaning it can handle a charge rate of 3.1A, recommended charge rate to achieve the most possible charge/discharge cycles is usually 0.2C so for a 3100mAh battery that would be 620mA. Once the charge gets to the correct voltage it gets to constant voltage and charges until termination current usually in the 100mA range. So yes, it can handle a 2A charge no problem.
Hey there. I very much appreciate that breakdown. Makes me wonder why they dropped the amps so much during charge.
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recommended charge rate to achieve the most possible charge/discharge cycles is usually 0.2C so for a 3100mAh battery that would be 620mA.
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If this is true (first time I've seen this anywhere), that would line up great with the 650mA max charge rate I found. Also, I downloaded the VZW source, and it doesn't look to significantly different from the N7100 source, at least as far as the charger stuff is concerned, so I would say they both probably have a max charge rate of 650mA.
I appreciate the info and time you both put into this. I guess it means a 2A usb port will be slight overkill. Even changing the charge rate to a higher value seems to indicate a lower battery life. Makes you wonder how apple did it's math for the ipads charge rate. The battery must be huge to accommodate a 1.1A charge rate. Or they are sacrificing battery life for fast charging.
Wont the kernel dictate the charge rate no matter what the charger is rated at?
If the kernel is set for a charge rate of 650mA (0.650A), then why does the Note 2 have a more powerful 2A wall charger, while the GS3 has a 1A wall charger.
FAUguy said:
If the kernel is set for a charge rate of 650mA (0.650A), then why does the Note 2 have a more powerful 2A wall charger, while the GS3 has a 1A wall charger.
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The original nook color 7" came with a 2A wall charger and that was 2 years ago... both my note 2 and nook color charge about the same rate (quick to 99% and slow to 100). The charger is probably cheaper to make at 2A rather than anything and plus it could be used to charge future devices. Also if you used a 1A charger to charge the note it might possibly get warm/hot from running at near full capacity.
Im using my OLD blackberry 700mA wall charger to charge the phone at night while im sleeping. No problems with heat.
Hi.
The charger we use to charge our s2 gives 0.7 A to charge the battery. But Note2 has a charger of 2 Ampere output.
Will it damage the phone if I use branded chargers capable of giving higher output ???
It won't charge your phone any faster, limited by hardware. But you should be able to use the charger safely.
No it will not work ... I have original samsung charger with 0.7A and with a multimeter i testet it and real output its 1A but while it is connected to phone it charges 0.650(5)A and it cluses touch problems but only while charging
2A will make screen unresponsibile and inacurate and could damage battery
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You definitely shouldn't charge with any other charger then chargers made specifically for your phone, it can do nothing or it can make your phone trash, seriously don't take that risk.
vaibhav1515 said:
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The charger we use to charge our s2 gives 0.7 A to charge the battery. But Note2 has a charger of 2 Ampere output.
Will it damage the phone if I use branded chargers capable of giving higher output ???
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As long as the charger is original and not cheap Chinese crap, you are perfectly fine. It is not the Amperage that matters, the phone will take as much as it needs, even if the charger gives less/more. For example :if you use a charger that gives 5v 300mA the phone will charge at 300mA.
If you use a charger that gives 5v 700mA (which I believe is the max the phone can take) the phone will charge at 700mA.
If you use a charger that gives 5v 9000mA the phone will charge at 700mA.
If you use a charger that gives 220v 300mA the phone will blow up.
This to say that Amperage affects just how fast the phone will charge, up to a max regulated by the phone itself. If you give more, you waste the exceeding. If the voltage is wrong, then you will surely have lots of troubles.
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Yep. Well explained