Hi
I can not charge my Galaxy Player 5.0 from mobile chargers using AA batteries.
Tried several chargers, only one 2AA cheap "noname" is working.
Ayone have the same problem ?
Any ideas ?
regards
sztajmes
sztajmes said:
Hi
I can not charge my Galaxy Player 5.0 from mobile chargers using AA batteries.
Tried several chargers, only one 2AA cheap "noname" is working.
Ayone have the same problem ?
Any ideas ?
regards
sztajmes
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You need to look at the output amp rating of these chargers. Chances are the output rating is too low to charge the player. These players came with .75mA chargers and the one you are using is probably kicking out too little of the "juice". Even if it registers, I bet it will take for EVER to even go 5% charged... You need a better charger.
cvcduty said:
You need to look at the output amp rating of these chargers. Chances are the output rating is too low to charge the player. These players came with .75mA chargers and the one you are using is probably kicking out too little of the "juice". Even if it registers, I bet it will take for EVER to even go 5% charged... You need a better charger.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nope.
Is not charging at all.
SGP 5.0 AC charger is rated .7 A but it can be charged from computer USB ( 5V .5A)
I can get the battery icon to blink with thunder, but is not charging.
Tekkeon is rated 1A and is not charging.
Soshine is rated .4 A and is charging my old LG phone, 0.75A.But not the SGP.
Noname charger from DX, rated .5 A is charging SGP with no problem.
Problem with electronics ?
Anyone ?
sztajmes
sztajmes said:
Nope.
Is not charging at all.
SGP 5.0 AC charger is rated .7 A but it can be charged from computer USB ( 5V .5A)
I can get the battery icon to blink with thunder, but is not charging.
Tekkeon is rated 1A and is not charging.
Soshine is rated .4 A and is charging my old LG phone, 0.75A.But not the SGP.
Noname charger from DX, rated .5 A is charging SGP with no problem.
Problem with electronics ?
Anyone ?
sztajmes
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Batteries in the charger maybe not powerful enough, just because your LG phones charger has the same output as the SGP charger does not mean they have the same minimum power requirement to charge. remember 2 AA batteries is only 3 Volts and so the charger has a transformer (not the optimus prime kind, lol) that ramps the volt up, the problem is when ramping up voltage your dropping amperage and without knowing the amperage of the double A's your using is impossible to do the math to see if that would give you the min output to charge your SGP.
It's also worth mentioning that those AA chargers are meant to be an EMERGENCY BACKUP and you should NOT use them to regularly charge your devices battery as this method of "charging" and I use that word lightly is very unhealthy for your players battery.
daniel644 said:
Batteries in the charger maybe not powerful enough, just because your LG phones charger has the same output as the SGP charger does not mean they have the same minimum power requirement to charge. remember 2 AA batteries is only 3 Volts and so the charger has a transformer (not the optimus prime kind, lol) that ramps the volt up, the problem is when ramping up voltage your dropping amperage and without knowing the amperage of the double A's your using is impossible to do the math to see if that would give you the min output to charge your SGP.
It's also worth mentioning that those AA chargers are meant to be an EMERGENCY BACKUP and you should NOT use them to regularly charge your devices battery as this method of "charging" and I use that word lightly is very unhealthy for your players battery.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Tekkeon MP1580 problem solved
If you want charge from Tekkeon you have to connect together two center pins inside the USB socket of the unit.
sztajmes
Related
Just curious if there is an app or something similar that would show how many amps are being provided when charging through a wall charger/USB powered hub? The reason I ask is that I'm thinking of buying a powered USB 3.0 Hub. The adapter that came with our phone says it's 2 Amp, so I am assuming our phone can pull 2 amps for charging. Just wanted to verify in some way that a 2 Amp dedicated port would really work for this phone.
*Madmoose* said:
Just curious if there is an app or something similar that would show how many amps are being provided when charging through a wall charger/USB powered hub? The reason I ask is that I'm thinking of buying a powered USB 3.0 Hub. The adapter that came with our phone says it's 2 Amp, so I am assuming our phone can pull 2 amps for charging. Just wanted to verify in some way that a 2 Amp dedicated port would really work for this phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
When I get home, I'll download the kernel source and see if I can find out how much power it draws during charging. I doubt however, that it will draw 2A during charging as most chargers are rated to supply more power than the phone will accept.
Yeah, 2A seems like that could melt a battery charging that fast. Someone sent me a private message and told me to try CurrentWidget. I threw that on the phone and it registers as 1A while charging. But it appears like the widget doesn't break it down with decimals. For instance it could be charging with 1.8A and wouldn't know it. I put it in a standard USB port and it reported as charging with 0 Amps but the battery was indeed charging.
I took a quick look at the N7100 (International Note 2) source posted on Github by CM and it looks like AC charger is 650mA, USB is 450mA. It's a little hard to tell what exactly it's using for charging, so I'll try to verify that when I get home and have a chance to take a better look.
*Madmoose* said:
Yeah, 2A seems like that could melt a battery charging that fast. Someone sent me a private message and told me to try CurrentWidget. I threw that on the phone and it registers as 1A while charging. But it appears like the widget doesn't break it down with decimals. For instance it could be charging with 1.8A and wouldn't know it. I put it in a standard USB port and it reported as charging with 0 Amps but the battery was indeed charging.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
A 3100mAh Lithium Ion battery can easily handle a full 2A charge rate. The ideal charge profile for Lithium Ion is a CC/CV profile, starts at constant current between like 3V and 4V, which most LI batters can take a rate of 1C, meaning it can handle a charge rate of 3.1A, recommended charge rate to achieve the most possible charge/discharge cycles is usually 0.2C so for a 3100mAh battery that would be 620mA. Once the charge gets to the correct voltage it gets to constant voltage and charges until termination current usually in the 100mA range. So yes, it can handle a 2A charge no problem.
Hey there. I very much appreciate that breakdown. Makes me wonder why they dropped the amps so much during charge.
bose301s said:
recommended charge rate to achieve the most possible charge/discharge cycles is usually 0.2C so for a 3100mAh battery that would be 620mA.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If this is true (first time I've seen this anywhere), that would line up great with the 650mA max charge rate I found. Also, I downloaded the VZW source, and it doesn't look to significantly different from the N7100 source, at least as far as the charger stuff is concerned, so I would say they both probably have a max charge rate of 650mA.
I appreciate the info and time you both put into this. I guess it means a 2A usb port will be slight overkill. Even changing the charge rate to a higher value seems to indicate a lower battery life. Makes you wonder how apple did it's math for the ipads charge rate. The battery must be huge to accommodate a 1.1A charge rate. Or they are sacrificing battery life for fast charging.
Wont the kernel dictate the charge rate no matter what the charger is rated at?
If the kernel is set for a charge rate of 650mA (0.650A), then why does the Note 2 have a more powerful 2A wall charger, while the GS3 has a 1A wall charger.
FAUguy said:
If the kernel is set for a charge rate of 650mA (0.650A), then why does the Note 2 have a more powerful 2A wall charger, while the GS3 has a 1A wall charger.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The original nook color 7" came with a 2A wall charger and that was 2 years ago... both my note 2 and nook color charge about the same rate (quick to 99% and slow to 100). The charger is probably cheaper to make at 2A rather than anything and plus it could be used to charge future devices. Also if you used a 1A charger to charge the note it might possibly get warm/hot from running at near full capacity.
Im using my OLD blackberry 700mA wall charger to charge the phone at night while im sleeping. No problems with heat.
Hi all,
When I use the charger that came with the HTC One my phone charges great, rapid.
But when I use any other charger that I have in my home/office it charges very slow. Even with a 2.1 amp charger!
The charger that comes with the phone has an output of 1 amp.
I've tried multiple other chargers (1 amp and 2.1 amp) and they all trickle charge.
Anyone else noticing this?
Thanks
Joe
I'm using old charges at home and in the office and it did seems slow but had not heard of rapid charge. Will the phone indicate this rapid charge mode? If not, is it real?
I'm getting slow charging even on the stock HTC charger. Not sure how I can enable this rapid charge cause 4+ hours from 0-1% to full is a bit ridiculous.
use orginal charger is best , maybe it has some relationship with your battery life
If anyone is coming from phones with smaller batteries, remember the larger the capacity the long it takes to charge.
I use the cable and charger from my Nexus 7 and it charges fast. Off my USB it is slow.
Real AC chargers have two pins shorted. You can hack a USB to micro USB cable and short the same two pins to enable AC charging with any adapter, wall, USB, or car. Should be pins 3+4, but don't hold me to that.
Sent from my HTC One using xda app-developers app
flooty333 said:
Hi all,
When I use the charger that came with the HTC One my phone charges great, rapid.
But when I use any other charger that I have in my home/office it charges very slow. Even with a 2.1 amp charger!
The charger that comes with the phone has an output of 1 amp.
I've tried multiple other chargers (1 amp and 2.1 amp) and they all trickle charge.
Anyone else noticing this?
Thanks
Joe
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Try to change your phone
c5satellite2 said:
Real AC chargers have two pins shorted. You can hack a USB to micro USB cable and short the same two pins to enable AC charging with any adapter, wall, USB, or car. Should be pins 3+4, but don't hold me to that.
Sent from my HTC One using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i've done exactly this, and damned if the One still refuses to draw more than ~500 ma off of anything but the 2.1 A wallwart it came with (i don't have any others to try with). i'm about to dig out an old inverter to see if that will actually work. wish i'd paid more attention to my EE dad when i lived at home; i've gotten a serious crash course in this stuff while trying to get my One to charge in my car, when it's on.
edit: so i got my old inverter out, and spent about 15 minutes testing. i used the 2.0A adapter that came with my Nexus 7 to test, as well as the 3.1A Mediabridge adapter i got here. my phone was at about 45% when i started testing. unplugged, Battery Monitor Widget reported a drain of anywhere between 500ma and 650ma (running Ingress, wifi on). plugged in to the Mediabridge adapter showed, at best, a drain of 50ma. the Nexus adapter plugged in to my inverter charged at a fairly consistent ~120ma. i didn't touch my phone the entire time.
i left my Nexus 7 at work so i can't use it to repeat the test, but i will do so tomorrow. the cable i'm using is this one. i'm not crazy about having a ridiculous DC-AC inverter in my car for my phone, but if that's what i have to do so it can be used and not drain, then so be it. admittedly, i don't really understand these things enough to explain these variations, but i plan on learning ASAP. perhaps somebody else can shed some light on why the device charges different, and how it identifies an AC-USB adapter vs a DC-USB adapter.
sluflyer06 said:
If anyone is coming from phones with smaller batteries, remember the larger the capacity the long it takes to charge.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Math doesn't support what is happening though. Phone has a 2300mAh battery. The OEM charger outputs 1A (1000mAh)
At most, it should be around 3 hours for full charge, when in fact it is closer to 4-4.5 hours. It's the last 10% that is the issue, it will trickle charge to 100% rather than rapid charge.
nest75068 said:
Math doesn't support what is happening though. Phone has a 2300mAh battery. The OEM charger outputs 1A (1000mAh)
At most, it should be around 3 hours for full charge, when in fact it is closer to 4-4.5 hours. It's the last 10% that is the issue, it will trickle charge to 100% rather than rapid charge.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, I think that's exactly what the HTC does... I read a pretty good article recently about Li-Ion batteries that talks about how trickle charging is the best for battery life, and it wouldn't surprise me if HTC got a little aggressive the way the this phone charges since we can't swap the battery ourselves.
I'm trying one last car charger, which matches the wattage of my Nexus 7's 5Vdc/2A AC adapter (which I've had the best luck with, when charging the phone while in use): http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009TBF7IG/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
If that doesn't work, I'm going to put a 300W inverter in my car with the AC adapters themselves and stop buying stinking DC adapters. This phone clearly pays very close attention to the wattage available from whatever it's plugged in to.
veener79 said:
I use the cable and charger from my Nexus 7 and it charges fast. Off my USB it is slow.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Same here, 2a Nexus 7 brick with a long Logitech USB cable, much faster than stock (and longer)
Harbinger1080 said:
Yes, I think that's exactly what the HTC does... I read a pretty good article recently about Li-Ion batteries that talks about how trickle charging is the best for battery life, and it wouldn't surprise me if HTC got a little aggressive the way the this phone charges since we can't swap the battery ourselves.
I'm trying one last car charger, which matches the wattage of my Nexus 7's 5Vdc/2A AC adapter (which I've had the best luck with, when charging the phone while in use): http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009TBF7IG/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
If that doesn't work, I'm going to put a 300W inverter in my car with the AC adapters themselves and stop buying stinking DC adapters. This phone clearly pays very close attention to the wattage available from whatever it's plugged in to.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm fortunate my car has a built in inverter that I use for charging my phone.
nest75068 said:
I'm fortunate my car has a built in inverter that I use for charging my phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My next car will too, because I can only imagine that power requirements for these devices is going to increase.
That said, I think I have a winner, and instead of retyping my posts, I'll just link to that thread instead: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41797839&postcount=6
Since the snap Dragon 600 has fast charging capabilities, why didn't HTC Include it in the kernel??? I've noticed my 2500 mAh note battery charges faster than my 2300 MAH HTC one
Sent from the Sexiest Android Device (HTC One)
Hi.
The charger we use to charge our s2 gives 0.7 A to charge the battery. But Note2 has a charger of 2 Ampere output.
Will it damage the phone if I use branded chargers capable of giving higher output ???
It won't charge your phone any faster, limited by hardware. But you should be able to use the charger safely.
No it will not work ... I have original samsung charger with 0.7A and with a multimeter i testet it and real output its 1A but while it is connected to phone it charges 0.650(5)A and it cluses touch problems but only while charging
2A will make screen unresponsibile and inacurate and could damage battery
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
You definitely shouldn't charge with any other charger then chargers made specifically for your phone, it can do nothing or it can make your phone trash, seriously don't take that risk.
vaibhav1515 said:
Hi.
The charger we use to charge our s2 gives 0.7 A to charge the battery. But Note2 has a charger of 2 Ampere output.
Will it damage the phone if I use branded chargers capable of giving higher output ???
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
As long as the charger is original and not cheap Chinese crap, you are perfectly fine. It is not the Amperage that matters, the phone will take as much as it needs, even if the charger gives less/more. For example :if you use a charger that gives 5v 300mA the phone will charge at 300mA.
If you use a charger that gives 5v 700mA (which I believe is the max the phone can take) the phone will charge at 700mA.
If you use a charger that gives 5v 9000mA the phone will charge at 700mA.
If you use a charger that gives 220v 300mA the phone will blow up.
This to say that Amperage affects just how fast the phone will charge, up to a max regulated by the phone itself. If you give more, you waste the exceeding. If the voltage is wrong, then you will surely have lots of troubles.
Inviato dal mio GT-I9100
Yep. Well explained
I have an old 0.7A charger and was told that a 1A charger would be faster..
But how far higher can I go? Is there a 2A charger?
Track607 said:
I have an old 0.7A charger and was told that a 1A charger would be faster..
But how far higher can I go? Is there a 2A charger?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1A is stock for S3.
Maximum recommended is 1.5A,more may brick your whole device,if not the battery.
solution
Track607 said:
I have an old 0.7A charger and was told that a 1A charger would be faster..
But how far higher can I go? Is there a 2A charger?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I guess using modified"boeffla or googymax " kernels will let your phone charge much faster
Maximum rating of the charger is irrelevant, the phone will only draw a safe amount. If you override that limit then you may blow the internal charging IC or rupture the battery.
Don't post questions in the general section.
The S3 can't charger faster than 1A, it will only draw what it can, I've used a HP Touchpad 2A charger since the day I got the phone, it still won't draw more than 1A. You can use custom kernals to draw more, but you'll find lots of stories of people who did it and fried the charging board.
I tested using 1.1Ah, and for the storioes I've read, it's the maximum value you can use with security.
Hi, you can have more than 1A, but you need to change the limit with boeffla (i made it for the USB charge)
theronkinator said:
The S3 can't charger faster than 1A, it will only draw what it can, I've used a HP Touchpad 2A charger since the day I got the phone, it still won't draw more than 1A. You can use custom kernals to draw more, but you'll find lots of stories of people who did it and fried the charging board.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
user3k said:
I tested using 1.1Ah, and for the storioes I've read, it's the maximum value you can use with security.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Using 1.2A from months in boeffla kernel without any trouble, using stock charger.
I tried 2A once and it was fast (0-100 in 1hr) but its not recommended 1.5 max
Also I increased charging speed to 1600mah that time and it was working
Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk
Dramatically increasing charging current will also dramatically decrease battery service life
Just get a second battery and desktop cradle, instant recharging without any wear on the phone motherboard.
Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk
Hi, i am getting a new charger for my tablet pc which uses a 5.35V 2A output charger and was wondering whether i can use this to charge my galaxy S3. so that i do not have to carry 2 chargers?
IS it advisable?
My S3 came with a 1A charger, my wife's S3 came with a 2A charger. I used her charger a few times and it worked fine. As of last week my charger is working fine, if I use hers with my phone I only shows "USB" in the battery info and takes forever to charge. I don't know if her charger did damage to my phone/battery but that felt strange, so I stopped using her charger.
With my Note 22 I used an app called "Galaxy Charging Current". Unfortunately it doesn't work on this phone. With the best charger & cable, the Note 2 showed 1800mA charging. I am looking for an App that would give me similar information with the V10.
Ampere seems to work with the V10:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gombosdev.ampere
currently using Ampere but getting mixed results
I use GSAM Battery Monitor.
with GSam & 35‰ charged it said the charger was charging @ 196mA. If that were so, then the factory fast charger is defective.
With Ampere & 45% charged it said the charger was charging @ 930mA. If that were so, then the factory fast charger is defective.
My Note 2 charges @ 1800mA and does not know what a fast charger is.
Sent from an AT&T LG V10
I use Battery Monitor Widget Pro. Best I've used so far to monitor battery usage. Haven't actually used it on my V10 but this post just reminded me to install it.
RDI said:
with GSam & 35‰ charged it said the charger was charging @ 196mA. If that were so, then the factory fast charger is defective.
With Ampere & 45% charged it said the charger was charging @ 930mA. If that were so, then the factory fast charger is defective.
My Note 2 charges @ 1800mA and does not know what a fast charger is.
Sent from an AT&T LG V10
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
quick charge 2.0 increases voltage to phone and drops the amps.
so a 5v 2.4a charger will put out around 1800mA (1.8a) on a note 2, the V10 with QC2.0 @ 930mA is prob feeding phone 9-12 volts
istehwin said:
quick charge 2.0 increases voltage to phone and drops the amps.
so a 5v 2.4a charger will put out around 1800mA (1.8a) on a note 2, the V10 with QC2.0 @ 930mA is prob feeding phone 9-12 volts
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So fast charge capabilities are screwing around with our battery monitoring apps?
Or rather screwing our perception of speed of charge and ma draw?
Ampere.. been using it for years
Sent from my SM-N9200 using XDA Free mobile app
Ampere actually broke my "Estimated time remaining" under battery & storage settings. Just would sit on "calculating... please wait."
Uninstalled it and it's back to working again.
Sent from my LG-H901 using XDA Free mobile app
Techlyfe said:
So fast charge capabilities are screwing around with our battery monitoring apps?
Or rather screwing our perception of speed of charge and ma draw?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
correct
istehwin said:
correct
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So to sum up...
930 on a V10 is "the same" as 1800 on a note 2?
I also came from a note 2 and have been confused as heck trying to figure out if my v10 is charging at a decent rate.
I never have a problem with the oem charger but I was on a car trip and using an external battery pack and also tried plugging in to my car stereo but couldn't figure out how to "read" the charging apps.
Sent from my pretty nifty brand new LG V10
lol... I too came from a Note 2
RDI said:
with GSam & 35‰ charged it said the charger was charging @ 196mA. If that were so, then the factory fast charger is defective.
With Ampere & 45% charged it said the charger was charging @ 930mA. If that were so, then the factory fast charger is defective.
My Note 2 charges @ 1800mA and does not know what a fast charger is.
Sent from an AT&T LG V10
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Take note that the v10 turns off fast charging while screen is on. And ampere is a gesstimate, no app can give you presice. Need to use a USB Doctor sleeve for better results.
Unfortunately Ampere remeassures every time the screen turns on. I used the paid version widget.
Additional note. Fast chargers and fast charging is not the same as Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0.
A 2.4A charger will not quick charge qc 2.0 LG v10 in this case any faster than an old Iphone cube.
You need a qc (qualcomm) 2.0 compatible quick charger and decent cable. Zerolemon, aukey, tronsmart, Motorola turbo qc 2.0 chargers works great.
The LG v10 is capable of 2400-2850mA. Slightly slower then the Nexus 6, but faster than the G4.
The stock charge that comes with the v10 is qc 2.0 [email protected] or [email protected] max. Some chargers can do 12v, ZeroLemon is one.
Ampere's XDA forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-ampere-charging-meter-t3012890
clockcycle said:
Take note that the v10 turns off fast charging while screen is on. And ampere is a gesstimate, no app can give you presice. Need to use a USB Doctor sleeve for better results.
Unfortunately Ampere remeassures every time the screen turns on. I used the paid version widget.
Additional note. Fast chargers and fast charging is not the same as Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0.
A 2.4A charger will not quick charge qc 2.0 LG v10 in this case any faster than an old Iphone cube.
You need a qc (qualcomm) 2.0 compatible quick charger and decent cable. Zerolemon, aukey, tronsmart, Motorola turbo qc 2.0 chargers works great.
The LG v10 is capable of 2400-2850mA. Slightly slower then the Nexus 6, but faster than the G4.
The stock charge that comes with the v10 is qc 2.0 [email protected] or [email protected] max. Some chargers can do 12v, ZeroLemon is one.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Does it matter what cord is used?
I have the Aukey charging station..wish that power cord was longer
porscheoscar said:
Does it matter what cord is used?
I have the Aukey charging station..wish that power cord was longer
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes in my experience, the quality of the cable makes a difference. I'm not sure if its the actual thickness or connections. I have a 6 foot braided flat cable that doesn't always fast charge on wall charger, but I have a 3 foot flat that does in the car. When I use my better cables it works every time.. I don't know if length makes a difference.
Yes, when I was using my Samsung Note 2 and an app called Galaxy Charging Current you could see the difference in mA. Using an Anker charger and a good cable got it up to 1800mA. It is harder to find longer cables that do not produce a loss. The quality of the conductor (metal /copper) shows up here. I wish that "Galaxy Charging Current" worked on the LG V10.
Sent from an AT&T LG V10
Try ampere... https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gombosdev.ampere
Sent from my LG-H901 using Tapatalk
i use this cable by Zikko 1.5m long and max my note 2 with 1800mA. Also the cable works great with LG v10 and support Fast charging. Not only that the quality of the cable is superb. i broke one when my phone fell during charging and it landed on the the bottom first causing the micro usb from cable crooked. beside that the cable is great. http://www.hersheng.com/sites/default/files/1403253142.jpg