Hi
I have written in numerous postings now and still has no idea how to work the sms. I am connected to Vodaphone and has received a couple of sms messages with no problem in my inbox. I have checked the network settings and it showed a call centre number which looks ok and certaintly I have received messages indicating that it is ok. However when I tried to send a sms, I could not even compose a SMS message. In the "New" command on the today screen, there is no sms message to select though I have the option of E-mail message there. I tap on a contact and "Send SMS" and there is just no response at all. Wonder if some kind soul could give me a detailed step by step way of sending sms thru the O2 XDA which I got but connected to Vodaphone?
Cheers
Vic
Hi
Sorry if you have already tried this.
Just go to new email. then press the the down arrows on the upper right of the screen by the subject box and change the service to SMS
then it will attempt to send sms's instead of emails.
HI
Thanks for reply. I tried tapping on "New" then "Email Message" and it goes straight to Inbox with my 2 sms messages that I had received displayed there. I tapped on the upper right hand down arrow and it showed "Sort by" with 2 options- From "Received date" or "Subject" and no option for SMS. Is this correct ?
Anyway- how does one compose and send email messages?
Cheers
Vic
Click on Inbox, then in the Upper LEFT of the screen you have the option to select ActiveSync (basically e-mail) or SMS. Select the Inbox section of the SMS part. You will then be able to select New from the bottom Left of the screen which will allow you to compaose an SMS. Remeber to click 'Send' and not OK to to send it! :idea:
Hi Matt,
Thanks for reply.
Got as far as the inbox option of SMS; it showed the 2 sms messages which I had received so far and when I click on "New" as instructed, nothing comes out of it.
sms
try pressing the green telephone handset button. press tools, press sms, enter number at the top, enter text, then send, if you click on tools, then choose options you can click for delivery reports.
Thanks for reply.
Pressing "Send SMS" at the phone menu give no response at all.
I seem to think that there must be an activating step for using sms; I have checked the call centre number and all that and everything is fine. Somehow I just could not compose an sms message. Not sure if I should hard boot the whole damn thing to return to factory defaults to see if it reactivates the sms mechanism. One question is will hard booting relock my XDA which I have already unlocked with the XDA manipulator?
Cheers
Vic
Hi all,
Just an update to the problem I had no more- a cold boot restored the full functions of the sms service and I still do not know which files were missing or corrupted.
Thanks for all help with answers anyway.
Cheers
Vic
Background: I've flashed with DCD's 3.0.4 rom, Verizon XV6800. ArcSoft MMS 5.0.31.11 running.
Question: How can you tell on this if an SMS text you send is read by the recipient? Honestly, I couldn't even figure that out when the phone was stock. I know on this version of ArcSoft MMS there's actually a checkbox for delivery and read reports in the MMS Options...but I only get a delivery report when sending an MMS (not a SMS message) and even THEN I can't tell when it has been read.
Is it just not possible? Older phones show a little D or a checkmark by the message when it's read...how about our flashier PPC's? Anyone know?
Older phones show a little D or a checkmark by the message when it's read...how about our flashier PPC's? Anyone know?
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The D or checkmark does not indicate if the message has been read, rather it indicates if the message was received by the recipient's handset. For example, if the recipient had their phone off, the checkmark would not appear until they turned it on and the message was delivered to their phone.
gcincotta said:
The D or checkmark does not indicate if the message has been read, rather it indicates if the message was received by the recipient's handset. For example, if the recipient had their phone off, the checkmark would not appear until they turned it on and the message was delivered to their phone.
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Any way to get that? or to check somewhere and see if the message has been delivered?
Any way to get that? or to check somewhere and see if the message has been delivered?
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Yes there is a way, but there are cons. It either clutters your inbox, or you are forced to delete a message everytime you send one.
Navigate to HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings and change DisableSMSDeliveryReceipt to 0 and change SMSDeliveryNotify to 1 and soft reset.
Give it a try, if it annoys you, to go back to normal, just flip flop them.
gcincotta said:
Yes there is a way, but there are cons. It either clutters your inbox, or you are forced to delete a message everytime you send one.
Navigate to HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings and change DisableSMSDeliveryReceipt to 0 and change SMSDeliveryNotify to 1 and soft reset.
Give it a try, if it annoys you, to go back to normal, just flip flop them.
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if youve got threaded sms, woulndt it store it all on one thread?
I dont actually know how or what it does, but just a thought...
thanks, will give it a try though.
gcincotta said:
The D or checkmark does not indicate if the message has been read, rather it indicates if the message was received by the recipient's handset. For example, if the recipient had their phone off, the checkmark would not appear until they turned it on and the message was delivered to their phone.
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I was going by a friend who has Verizon and a Motorola phone and he claims that when his texts are read by recipients that it places a checkmark on his phone. Your point makes sense though.
Back to the original question however...what about on our XV6800's? Is there any way to tell when an SMS is read?
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The D or checkmark does not indicate if the message has been read, rather it indicates if the message was received by the recipient's handset. For example, if the recipient had their phone off, the checkmark would not appear until they turned it on and the message was delivered to their phone.
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Actually most phones have a delivered and a read notification. like on my girlfriends u740 it'll have the delivered time and then the read time below it. I used to have a blackberry and it would put a check if it was delivered and a check+D if it was read. I'd love to have this feature but i don't think anyone has found a workaround yet
Actually most phones have a delivered and a read notification. like on my girlfriends u740 it'll have the delivered time and then the read time below it. I used to have a blackberry and it would put a check if it was delivered and a check+D if it was read. I'd love to have this feature but i don't think anyone has found a workaround yet
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Again, these times are NOT when the person actually reads the message. They lead you to believe that that's the case when it is not. In the case of your friend's phone, the delivered time is actually the time that the message was relayed from the network to the recipient, and the read time is the time when the handset actually receives the message. The message could sit in the recipient's Inbox for 3 weeks unread and you would never know the difference. Nevertheless, this feature does not exist on windows mobile devices and the only workaround is getting a message from System Administrator telling you the message was sent successful every time you send one. Messages from System Administrator are NOT threaded.
Example: I turn notify on and send a message but I don't have service. The message looks like it goes through on my end, but until I receive the System Administrator notification, it technically hasn't been received yet. Like I said, this clutters the Inbox with all those messages as they are not threaded, or you can delete the notification after every time you send a message. This is the only way to achieve something like this.
but even if it is succesfully sent, does that indicate receipt of the message? do you get notification when u have succesfully sent the message, even if the recipient has their phone off?
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Again, these times are NOT when the person actually reads the message. They lead you to believe that that's the case when it is not. In the case of your friend's phone, the delivered time is actually the time that the message was relayed from the network to the recipient, and the read time is the time when the handset actually receives the message. The message could sit in the recipient's Inbox for 3 weeks unread and you would never know the difference.
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So I tested this and on her u740 she sent me a message and i received it like 10 secs later and it showed delivered at that time. I waited about an hour and opened the message(even though I could read it when it came through) and closed out of my texts which got rid of the notification and it added delivered 10 mins later.
I'm pretty sure this is only a verizon thing and almost every verizon non windows phone is capable of this feature. Also verizon only charges for text messages that are read from the handset if you don't have unlimited texts which is prob why they have this feature.
Maybe it's not a feature available on our phones but It is possible to have.
So I tested this and on her u740 she sent me a message and i received it like 10 secs later and it showed delivered at that time. I waited about an hour and opened the message(even though I could read it when it came through) and closed out of my texts which got rid of the notification and it added delivered 10 mins later.
I'm pretty sure this is only a verizon thing and almost every verizon non windows phone is capable of this feature. Also verizon only charges for text messages that are read from the handset if you don't have unlimited texts which is prob why they have this feature.
Maybe it's not a feature available on our phones but It is possible to have.
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Ok well I thought we were talking about straight SMS with no EMS application extension (which is the feature you're referring to).
I'll explain a little about the SMS system.
You get the D notification when it is a subscriber within your network (i.e. Verizon to Verizon as you've been testing), it has to do with a specific signature flag that is triggered from within that network and does not cross networks.
The check mark means the cell tower has received and cached the message on the tower server for queuing to be transmitted. Once the SMS message has left queuing and goes to transit, which means it has left the tower's local server and has been sent to the carrier message manager (or out to a different network), then the D appears saying the message has been delivered. This really means "message has been delivered to the network" not necessarily to the recipient's device. Most of the time it happens so fast it usually hits the person's handset roughly within 3-5 seconds which coincidentally is the same time the queue server will send you the D flag to notify you it's been delivered. It's a pretty accurate indicator, but is completely unrelated. This D does not indicate when the message was read. In some instances, the person's handset can be off and you'll still get the D.
The times and updated times you're seeing on the u740 is part of the Enhanced Messaging Service, or EMS, application extension to SMS. The u740 is an EMS capable device, which is why you're seeing these updates. Windows Mobile devices are NOT EMS capable, which is why you'll never see this feature, nor will you see any workaround or fix. The only way you'll be able to get this feature is if you ditch your Titan for an EMS capable non smart phone, or if in the future they decide to make WM EMS capable.
Hopefully this clears up the confusion a little.
GC
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Ok well I thought we were talking about straight SMS with no EMS application extension (which is the feature you're referring to).
I'll explain a little about the SMS system.
You get the D notification when it is a subscriber within your network (i.e. Verizon to Verizon as you've been testing), it has to do with a specific signature flag that is triggered from within that network and does not cross networks.
The check mark means the cell tower has received and cached the message on the tower server for queuing to be transmitted. Once the SMS message has left queuing and goes to transit, which means it has left the tower's local server and has been sent to the carrier message manager (or out to a different network), then the D appears saying the message has been delivered. This really means "message has been delivered to the network" not necessarily to the recipient's device. Most of the time it happens so fast it usually hits the person's handset roughly within 3-5 seconds which coincidentally is the same time the queue server will send you the D flag to notify you it's been delivered. It's a pretty accurate indicator, but is completely unrelated. This D does not indicate when the message was read. In some instances, the person's handset can be off and you'll still get the D.
The times and updated times you're seeing on the u740 is part of the Enhanced Messaging Service, or EMS, application extension to SMS. The u740 is an EMS capable device, which is why you're seeing these updates. Windows Mobile devices are NOT EMS capable, which is why you'll never see this feature, nor will you see any workaround or fix. The only way you'll be able to get this feature is if you ditch your Titan for an EMS capable non smart phone, or if in the future they decide to make WM EMS capable.
Hopefully this clears up the confusion a little.
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Ok, so in essence you are saying that the ability to know when an SMS message is read does not exist, even with EMS capabilities. Why, on Windows Mobile phones, does the ArcSoft MMS Composer give a checkbox to Allow Read Reports for MMS Messages as if that is a feature that works, yet I haven't even seen that work for MMS messages either? Is that just because Verizon's network doesn't support read reports/receipts? I would think that there would be a way of knowing when a message is read (much like read receipts in Outlook, although the recipient has the option to not send the read receipt, but that's neither here nor there).
EMS phones have read reports, but apparently we don't have an EMS phone
EMS phones have read reports, but apparently we don't have an EMS phone
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You are correct.
I was doing a little research on the capabilities of EMS and MMS, and came across something interesting in the wikipedia listing for EMS:
EMS is an intermediate technology, between SMS and MMS, providing some of the features of MMS. EMS is a technology that is designed to work with existing networks, but may ultimately be made obsolete by MMS.
What's perplexing there is that we know EMS is an extension to SMS, and it is saying that EMS is intermediate to MMS...so why doesn't MMS include all SMS and EMS capabilities?
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What's perplexing there is that we know EMS is an extension to SMS, and it is saying that EMS is intermediate to MMS...so why doesn't MMS include all SMS and EMS capabilities?
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it does, but the carrier must choose to configure the mms client and mms server to support those capabilities.
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... Windows Mobile devices are NOT EMS capable, which is why you'll never see this feature, nor will you see any workaround or fix. The only way you'll be able to get this feature is if you ditch your Titan for an EMS capable non smart phone, or if in the future they decide to make WM EMS capable.
Hopefully this clears up the confusion a little.
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apparently at some point MS and VZ planned on ems in wm- the press releases from the 6700 mention ems:
http://news.vzw.com/news/2006/01/pr2006-01-04b.html
but a bit more current:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa919404.aspx
seems wm 6 has a regedit to allow ems.
anyone made progress getting ems to work with wm6 (or 6.1) on vz?
Does anyone know if there is a way to turn off the popup that appears everytime a text message is sent? i want to keep all the popups and notifications when txt/missed call/etc comes in but i dont want that popup everytime i send a text.. does anyone know how to fix this?
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Is it true that you can turn your tp upside down when someone is calling and it ignores the call?
I disabled mine by just going into
Start>Settings>Sounds and Notifications>Notifications tab
Choose:
Messaging: MMS sent
Messaging: Sending SMS
And uncheck everything.
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Is it true that you can turn your tp upside down when someone is calling and it ignores the call?
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Not sure but all I know is if you haven't changed anything, then you can turn the phone upside down and it will MUTE someone when you're on the phone with them. Try to stay on the topic at hand.
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings] Set SMSNoSentMsg to 1
This is from the Essentials thread over on PPCGeeks
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I disabled mine by just going into
Start>Settings>Sounds and Notifications>Notifications tab
Choose:
Messaging: MMS sent
Messaging: Sending SMS
And uncheck everything.
Not sure but all I know is if you haven't changed anything, then you can turn the phone upside down and it will MUTE someone when you're on the phone with them. Try to stay on the topic at hand.
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This doesn't disable the sent message notification, you have to do it through the registry mentioned in the previous post.
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This doesn't disable the sent message notification, you have to do it through the registry mentioned in the previous post.
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Are you suuuuure?
It worked for me, I don't get the notifications anymore...
As explain in the title I can't send any messages but i can receive them. My Hero is running with Villainrom 5.5 and I have done the update to get all APN.
Thanks for helping me guys!
manually input the smsc
type in these numbers on your dialer,... *#*#4636#*#* then wait a few seconds.
Go into phone settings, then scroll down to the bottom.
Actually i've tried several things like changing the wcdma to gsm... but nothing changes. It is annoying because i can do everything but i still can't send messages. I didn't found phone settings but phone informations...
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Actually i've tried several things like changing the wcdma to gsm... but nothing changes. It is annoying because i can do everything but i still can't send messages. I didn't found phone settings but phone informations...
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Yeah thats the one, phone info,... then did you put in your SMSC, its the sms centre number, get it from your network provider.
Are you trying to sen a really long message? (i.e. over 160 chars) This is a known issue, use handcent and change the settings to split long messages to simple split.
when someone sends you a picture, video or group text message, it comes in as a multimedia message (MMS). when connected to wi-fi only, the message comes into your messaging "in" box, but the audible notification does not ding, nor does the message text completely download. (this on the stock android 4.4.2 text messaging app.)
however, as soon as you turn your data on, both the audible notification rings and the full message text comes thru.
my question: is there any setting available that will automatically turn the data on when an mms message arrives? if so, where is it found? or is there a workaround that will do this?
if not, well, that's just dumb.....
thanks!