Hey guys, I thought it would be fun to list some of the things that we see around the forums here that really get under your skin and blow off some steam.
Rule 1: do not post anyone's name, screen name, avatar description, signature etc (nothing that would pin point anyone
That's pretty much it for what I can think of right now. But I'll start.
I haaaaaaate when someone creates a thread and their question can be answered within two sentences of the first sticky.
It really bothers me when people brick their phones from not reading and then when you try to help them, they make it seem like you are the one who has no idea what you're saying.
Hahaha this isn't a pet peeve but it's kind of annoying when people create threads about Google worthy info (I.e. how much ram comes with the note? ) -_-
People complaining about battery life, on AOSP/AOKP.
I just think to myself, "Maybe it's their first time with a smartphone." because my Note has had the best battery life for me.
Stock, of course, sucked balls in the battery life department.
24+ hours of total of use/stand by is flipping great to me. Hell, even 10 hours is good to me.
Fyi This thread is going to have the lifespan of a fruit fly.
It bugs me when someone quotes the op.
Especially when the op is super long, then the responder quotes it just to reply with a sentence or 2.
I browse xda pretty much exclusively with tapatalk, scrolling through useless chunks of text like that is annoying
Unquotable ops would be teh poo
Complaining about things that you have no control over or have done no work towards finding a remedy.
Stupid useless threads destined to be to shutdown. Usually they consist of topics that scream at the mods ... "hey shut me down".
Secondly people who feel the need to post on every thread weather it has a hill of band to do with them.
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Ph0n3D0rk said:
Hey guys, I thought it would be fun to list some of the things that we see around the forums here that really get under your skin and blow off some steam.
Rule 1: do not post anyone's name, screen name, avatar description, signature etc (nothing that would pin point anyone
That's pretty much it for what I can think of right now. But I'll start.
I haaaaaaate when someone creates a thread and their question can be answered within two sentences of the first sticky.
It really bothers me when people brick their phones from not reading and then when you try to help them, they make it seem like you are the one who has no idea what you're saying.
Hahaha this isn't a pet peeve but it's kind of annoying when people create threads about Google worthy info (I.e. how much ram comes with the note? ) -_-
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I totally agree with Studa.
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Seeing 2 or 3 threads about the same question on the same page.
Any "Best of..." Thread
MIUI
When you answer someones question in detail and then they want you to link them all the files and threads associated with that answer instead of reading and searching after you've pointed them in the right direction....let's not even get started on the thanks button.
People asking a question about something discussed in the OP of a ROM. Worse yet, that person posting a new thread to ask it.
People who think they're smarter than they really are, give arrogant advice, then flame others that try to actually help.
People using poor grammar, spelling, and punctuation.
People obsessing over battery life, and complaining when they don't get 4 hours of screen time. The Note has some of the best battery life out there.
People obsessing over benchmarks. They are useless compared to personal user experience. My scores on CM9/ICS/AOKP are lower than they were on GB, but my user experience is much more fluid and lag free. Get over benchmarks.
People who complain about something that is missing from a ROM. Or people who complain about something that is included in a ROM. Devs don't cater to us, they are generously sharing with us, be appreciative.
People who don't know how to search and read. Try it sometime, it's amazing what a little self-gained knowledge can do for my respect for you.
People who follow this new fad of entitlement. These devs put in countless hours for themselves, and share these things with us for free. At least show the respect to read everything they write in the OP so you don't end up bugging them. And hit their thanks button as much as possible. Possibly give them a donation. Let them know how awesome you think their work is. Show them a little appreciation for what they're giving you for free. You are not entitled to anything they produce, so be grateful for what they have given you so far.
People who all for ETAs. Just don't do it, this goes with the entitlement thing.
People who say one ROM is better than others. These devs put in hard work, and the "best" ROM is a matter of personal opinion, so it's kind of a slap in the face. A ROM may be the best for you, but it is most certainly not the be all end all best ROM. It's good to give a ROM credit and praise where credit and praise are due, but don't do it at the detriment of another ROM. On a similar note, don't post a best ROM thread. Just don't do it, please.
People who flame others. It's ok to joke around a little bit, but remember, fighting with somebody on the internet is pointless, even if you "win". If you try to joke around with somebody, please try to make your dry sense of humor apparent, throw in a smiley face. I can't hear the tone of your voice while reading your post, and neither can anybody else. A smiley let's somebody know you're most likely kidding, and there's nothing to get mad about and start a flame war.
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People asking a question about something discussed in the OP of a ROM. Worse yet, that person posting a new thread to ask it.
People who think they're smarter than they really are, give arrogant advice, then flame others that try to actually help.
People using poor grammar, spelling, and punctuation.
People obsessing over battery life, and complaining when they don't get 4 hours of screen time. The Note has some of the best battery life out there.
People obsessing over benchmarks. They are useless compared to personal user experience. My scores on CM9/ICS/AOKP are lower than they were on GB, but my user experience is much more fluid and lag free. Get over benchmarks.
People who complain about something that is missing from a ROM. Or people who complain about something that is included in a ROM. Devs don't cater to us, they are generously sharing with us, be appreciative.
People who don't know how to search and read. Try it sometime, it's amazing what a little self-gained knowledge can do for my respect for you.
People who follow this new fad of entitlement. These devs put in countless hours for themselves, and share these things with us for free. At least show the respect to read everything they write in the OP so you don't end up bugging them. And hit their thanks button as much as possible. Possibly give them a donation. Let them know how awesome you think their work is. Show them a little appreciation for what they're giving you for free. You are not entitled to anything they produce, so be grateful for what they have given you so far.
People who all for ETAs. Just don't do it, this goes with the entitlement thing.
People who say one ROM is better than others. These devs put in hard work, and the "best" ROM is a matter of personal opinion, so it's kind of a slap in the face. A ROM may be the best for you, but it is most certainly not the be all end all best ROM. It's good to give a ROM credit and praise where credit and praise are due, but don't do it at the detriment of another ROM. On a similar note, don't post a best ROM thread. Just don't do it, please.
People who flame others. It's ok to joke around a little bit, but remember, fighting with somebody on the internet is pointless, even if you "win". If you try to joke around with somebody, please try to make your dry sense of humor apparent, throw in a smiley face. I can't hear the tone of your voice while reading your post, and neither can anybody else. A smiley let's somebody know you're most likely kidding, and there's nothing to get mad about and start a flame war.
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Really long responses .... But agreed 100%
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oh and i cant stand threads about:
"what is the best..."
"my phone is broke, how do i fix it?" (and giving only that much detail)
and any thread about bacon because bacon is for losers
and people that post "in before close"
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in before thread close..
oh and i cant stand threads about:
"what is the best..."
"my phone is broke, how do i fix it?" (and giving only that much detail)
and any thread about bacon because bacon is for losers
and people that post "in before close"
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i hate when people complain about bacon.
also hate when people complain about complaining.
finally hate when people do not post in my bacon thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1439948
People that ask for help to fix a problem and give you no detail.
"My GPS isn't working"
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When people ask " is that the new iPhone?"
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I get tired of people using a post in the development forums to tell someone thanks.
Just use the button. Gewz.
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People that jump on at the last minute, and can't bring themselves to read back a couple pages.
People that appoint themselves as Protector Of The Forum and jump all over people with legitimate issues.
My biggest peeve is when a new user posts a question that has been answered in the past and half of the forum jumps on them about reading the rules. Here's an example:
n00b: Why does it take five minutes for my phone to power on now? When it was stock it only took a few seconds, now it takes a minute or longer!
d00d: OMFG! Can't you READ? It's clearly there six pages back about how the new prop file has to be completely parsed and the kernel depolarized before the snarfulflugin can be loaded! Stop asking questions that have already been answered and RTFAQ!
Of course, if the new user knew what "build.prop" and "bootloader" meant, they would have used those terms to search for the info first. And if the long-time user had taken a second to explain those terms to the new user, the next time they need something they will know how to find it. But this rarely happens anymore.
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I'm a XDA lover
i love to flash ROMs
I'm greatfull to all the wonderful Chefs/developers/users/co-members at XDA
(mostly for the Raphael Forums as thats what i use-99% of times.)
But recently i've noticed that the Forums and developments here on this Forum is not SO lively and ACtive as it used to be i wonder why should that be the case...
I remember the time that there used to be ROM releases every other day but ow its come down to once or twice a week...and sometimes even longer...I've no grudge against any of the Chefs i'm totally aware of the fact that ROM Development ETC takes heck lot of time and effort ...But i feel that its not about the time its about the passion with which people respond to these ROMs they have kind of got dispassionate towards the ROMs and take it for granted and don't appreciate the work of the Chef...
I could be wrong absolutely wrong but this is what i feel.
I'm really sorry if you don't think so...
But i feel we should be greatfull to the DEvelopers/Chefs/Co-members here at XDA they are the ones who help us.
We should not take them for granted.
We should help a person who is in problem rather than thinking that someone else will ofcourse help him/her.
If we are good to people then only people will be good to us.
If we appreciate and praise a Chefs/developers Work then only he/she will be motivated to give us all something even better the next time otherwise he will feel he is just wasting time.
Show respect and regard people XDA is a wonderful place for all of us.
Thank you.
Please feel free to express your opinions.
I'm sorry if some one doesn't agree with me or dislikes this post.
This is not meant to offend anyone.
Thank you everyone.
To MODS: Please let this be here i need an opinion. But if it offends you or is unappropriate its upto all you wonderful people.
I've been coming here for a few years, and it seems as something gets more popular, the more it seems the people involved are less appreciative. I see a LOT of "dang, it's taking you forever to build this rom" or "it's got a bug and sucks, why can't you fix it" and that type of mentality. but on the flip side, some people draw that type of person. I've been using RRE roms for a long time. and while I've seen a few people piss in aruppenthal's post toasties, for the most part, most of the people who use his roms are very appreciative, and supportive.
I know some people won't agree with me, and I'll probably piss off a few people, but when you get this many people in 1 place, you are ALWAYS going to have dipsh!ts and idiots and the like. I mean we're talking about 250k active accounts here. think about a superbowl game.. 30-50k people and there are tons that get arrested, or beaten down cause they're drunk and stupid (or obnoxious) or whatever. I think we're doing exceptionally good here. a TON of people and most of them are nice, supportive and stuff.
Me? I love this board. it's what I consider home. (thanks ryan.)
I agree with u but what did u make so upset my friend. Its true that we have some a..holes in xda. But as jaguar says, u will always have them somewhere.
I still think the raphael area is still in pretty good shape, with helping people and being greatfull to the cooks.
Schnizelbrain
P.S. And if u really whant to thank the chefs/Devs, donate.
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I've been coming here for a few years, and it seems as something gets more popular, the more it seems the people involved are less appreciative. I see a LOT of "dang, it's taking you forever to build this rom" or "it's got a bug and sucks, why can't you fix it" and that type of mentality. but on the flip side, some people draw that type of person. I've been using RRE roms for a long time. and while I've seen a few people piss in aruppenthal's post toasties, for the most part, most of the people who use his roms are very appreciative, and supportive.
I know some people won't agree with me, and I'll probably piss off a few people, but when you get this many people in 1 place, you are ALWAYS going to have dipsh!ts and idiots and the like. I mean we're talking about 250k active accounts here. think about a superbowl game.. 30-50k people and there are tons that get arrested, or beaten down cause they're drunk and stupid (or obnoxious) or whatever. I think we're doing exceptionally good here. a TON of people and most of them are nice, supportive and stuff.
Me? I love this board. it's what I consider home. (thanks ryan.)
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I totally agree.
mr.jaguar said:
I've been coming here for a few years, and it seems as something gets more popular, the more it seems the people involved are less appreciative. I see a LOT of "dang, it's taking you forever to build this rom" or "it's got a bug and sucks, why can't you fix it" and that type of mentality. but on the flip side, some people draw that type of person. I've been using RRE roms for a long time. and while I've seen a few people piss in aruppenthal's post toasties, for the most part, most of the people who use his roms are very appreciative, and supportive.
I know some people won't agree with me, and I'll probably piss off a few people, but when you get this many people in 1 place, you are ALWAYS going to have dipsh!ts and idiots and the like. I mean we're talking about 250k active accounts here. think about a superbowl game.. 30-50k people and there are tons that get arrested, or beaten down cause they're drunk and stupid (or obnoxious) or whatever. I think we're doing exceptionally good here. a TON of people and most of them are nice, supportive and stuff.
Me? I love this board. it's what I consider home. (thanks ryan.)
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I agree ! Even i love this and is my home...true nothing can be done but if people read this thread perhaps they would think twice before flaming or criticizing peoples efforts ! And making fun of them.
schnitzelbrain said:
I agree with u but what did u make so upset my friend. Its true that we have some a..holes in xda. But as jaguar says, u will always have them somewhere.
I still think the raphael area is still in pretty good shape, with helping people and being greatfull to the cooks.
Schnizelbrain
P.S. And if u really whant to thank the chefs/Devs, donate.
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What makes me upset are some of the posts i read by few Bugf**kers !
They insult the ROM the forums the chefs ! And its sad to share space with such jerks !
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Schnizelbrain I'm a minor i'm just 16 years old... if i had a credit card or i was earning i would hundred pecent donate to these lovely people ....
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Glad you agree.
See the poll one person voted saying he doesn't care. He/She is just interested in resources ! These are the ungrateful lot of people which i hate to share space with on the forum....if you use the resources appreciate them thank the people who work their asses of so that we can have cool stuff on our phones ! If not donate just write a thanks message for them aprreciate their work...
But all these people will do is use everything here and then crib that this lacks this and you lack this !
Theses people suck !
A sorry to all the MODS but i felt lke showing a little respect to all the co-members/developers/chefs on XDA and try to educate the flamers and idiots of XDA !
Glad there are still lots of good people around
Thank you all.
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I think the board activity is representative of a normal product life cycle.
There was growth and a lot of development as people flocked to the Raphael.
Now, we are in a decline as the next generation of devices are coming out.
Big words , What has to be taken into account is that a lot of the chefs are moving on the newer devices, like Topaz, rhodium and HD2. This is a cycle, this has happened to the Kaiser forums as well but that's still active as well. Now the time has come for fresher chefs to cook their ROMs and grow. Where there is a need there shall be new ROMs. I actually think the kaiser forums are more stable nowadays but I could be wrong.
On a side note I cooked and then gave it a rest because of the the amount of work it worked out to be to make sure new changes wouldn't affect stability. Aside from the work it is to create a kitchen and find the newest\best packages. The testing process it fairly intensive. I don't think any good chef can whip up a ROM from scratch with in less than two days of hard labour, and that's if their experienced.
Appreciation threads are always welcome I think
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gunshy73 said:
I think the board activity is representative of a normal product life cycle.
There was growth and a lot of development as people flocked to the Raphael.
Now, we are in a decline as the next generation of devices are coming out.
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But that doesn't give anyone a license to insult/disregard anyone's efforts even if they are not as expected.
12aon said:
Big words , What has to be taken into account is that a lot of the chefs are moving on the newer devices, like Topaz, rhodium and HD2. This is a cycle, this has happened to the Kaiser forums as well but that's still active as well. Now the time has come for fresher chefs to cook their ROMs and grow. Where there is a need there shall be new ROMs. I actually think the kaiser forums are more stable nowadays but I could be wrong.
On a side note I cooked and then gave it a rest because of the the amount of work it worked out to be to make sure new changes wouldn't affect stability. Aside from the work it is to create a kitchen and find the newest\best packages. The testing process it fairly intensive. I don't think any good chef can whip up a ROM from scratch with in less than two days of hard labour, and that's if their experienced.
Appreciation threads are always welcome I think
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WOW great to get a thumbs up from a MOD ! Sir its true but still old forums or new forums good/bad/old/new-chefs/developers we all need to appreciate each other's efforts and work..
Then only XDA will continue the way it has otherwise it will someday become a paid portal with a limited number of civilized members..
hpe the 300 people who viewed this thread will realise the importance of patience, apreciation, and understanding...
I'm just trying to tell people to be human to others who are helping you as strangers ! [/SIZE]
Anyways keep posting and voting Thanks to all.
"Why is XDA-Raphael Rom Development section ungrateful?"
Unfortunately, nobody will visit this place if was happy with his phone.
So the facts are:
1) Everyone has a hope for better image (software)
2) The hardware has also many disadvantages
Even if the chefs make perfect images, the phone+software will be under the general
expectation of the users.
Personaly, i beleived the advertisements and the reviews of this phone and
i gave 600 euros to buy it. I am cheated
rafailo said:
"Why is XDA-Raphael Rom Development section ungrateful?"
Unfortunately, nobody will visit this place if was happy with his phone.
So the facts are:
1) Everyone has a hope for better image (software)
2) The hardware has also many disadvantages
Even if the chefs make perfect images, the phone+software will be under the general
expectation of the users.
Personaly, i beleived the advertisements and the reviews of this phone and
i gave 600 euros to buy it. I am cheated
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But again that is NO EXCUSE TO BE RUDE T PEOPLE HERE THEY NEVER FORCED YOU TO BUY ANY DEVICE THEY ARE JUST HELPING YOU.
There is no valid reason in the world to be rude to anyone else here !
rafailo said:
this phone and
i gave 600 euros to buy it. I am cheated
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Do you yell at the mechanic who is working on your car just because you bought a lemon? NO.
Do you take it up with the person from which you purchased the care? YES.
You seem to forget that XDA is not responsible for the design and marketing of HTC products. They are simply trying to get the most out of their devices.
If you are so greatly upset by the device, go get an iphone and quit complaining.
I agree with you my friend.
I moved over from KAISER to this one recently. I too have noticed the hostility of the people in this community. Often you read something in this line.....You should have read the back 20 pages before posting your question..........You should search before posting your question......... People should realise that people may not have all the time in the world to read as much as others.........Some people are more computer competent than others...........We have different abilities. We should all try and make each other valued.
Thank you all who contribute daily to make this community a pleasant place to be.
Please do not let the flame dies.
Great To get some support !
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Do you yell at the mechanic who is working on your car just because you bought a lemon? NO.
Do you take it up with the person from which you purchased the care? YES.
You seem to forget that XDA is not responsible for the design and marketing of HTC products. They are simply trying to get the most out of their devices.
If you are so greatly upset by the device, go get an iphone and quit complaining.
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These kind of people won't even be happy with the best phone in the world forget the iphone or anything....! Thank you for the support ! These type of people have to understand That Its not a developers/chefs fault that the App is not working ! He/She are trying their best to make it work ! But still they want everything to work fine. !
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I moved over from KAISER to this one recently. I too have noticed the hostility of the people in this community. Often you read something in this line.....You should have read the back 20 pages before posting your question..........You should search before posting your question......... People should realise that people may not have all the time in the world to read as much as others.........Some people are more computer competent than others...........We have different abilities. We should all try and make each other valued.
Thank you all who contribute daily to make this community a pleasant place to be.
Please do not let the flame dies.
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Thanks a lot buddy ! I'm glas 65% of you agree with me and maybe the 11% somewhere inside their heart do agree...but the other 24% are the people who i hope will learn something and hopefully appreciate the efforts work and dedication of the developers/chefs here.
But the people who Say that they don't care and just want resources are the ones who should be ashamed of themselves they are very ungrateful....
I hope that the 715 odd people who have read some of this thread realised something if not exactly what i wanted them to realise and hopefully will be better next time they post on any Forum.
Thank you all.
XDA Forever !
Keep Voting ! we need to improve the "Sour Grapes" At XDA.
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Please write in the common text size. Thx
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having problems with your glasses?
Please write in the common text size. Thx
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My thoughts exactly. I find this poster's posts annoying because of that.
The site is as it has been in the lifelines of devices. New devices come out, and people move on to the next best thing. I think it is rare that there is griping - though it happens everywhere. The OP might be misinterpreting excitement to see new things in new builds for griping.
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Please write in the common text size. Thx
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Done that I didn't realise it would irritate some people. I just wanted to hilight the text.
Bimboy said:
My thoughts exactly. I find this poster's posts annoying because of that.
The site is as it has been in the lifelines of devices. New devices come out, and people move on to the next best thing. I think it is rare that there is griping - though it happens everywhere. The OP might be misinterpreting excitement to see new things in new builds for griping.
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Ahh ! What exactly do you mean ? I'm dumb could yo please explain in simple terms in straight forward language Without going around in circles....
Thank you
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Ahh ! What exactly do you mean ? I'm dumb could yo please explain in simple terms in straight forward language Without going around in circles....
Thank you
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I mean that most people are passionate here about seeing what's next, and what is tweaked on new builds. I flash multiple times a week still, and love to see what I will find on a new build.
I check here multiple times a day for new things to appear. I can see people getting vocal about wanting to see new cool things. "Where's build 23085!!!" is what I am thinking, but not to piss anybody off or push people. Rather,to want to simply get my hands on it to play.
Also, complainers complain. 99.99% of people are fine with things, but the couple of schmucks complaining may make it appear that most people are ungrateful.
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I mean that most people are passionate here about seeing what's next, and what is tweaked on new builds. I flash multiple times a week still, and love to see what I will find on a new build.
I check here multiple times a day for new things to appear. I can see people getting vocal about wanting to see new cool things. "Where's build 23085!!!" is what I am thinking, but not to piss anybody off or push people. Rather,to want to simply get my hands on it to play.
Also, complainers complain. 99.99% of people are fine with things, but the couple of schmucks complaining may make it appear that most people are ungrateful.
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Ah ! I see.
Sir i agree with you mostly on that.
Indeed newer ROMs and latest developments excite most of the people on this community, But I feel most of those people who download these ROMs/Programs/Developments and are so called "Flash-junkies" are taking things for granted as in i mean if they see a build 23081 they will try it maybe say its good, but it lacks this this and this... And then after a little while say please do this is 23085 please do this and this this are taking the fact for granted that the chef for sure will write a 23085 build without appreciating the effort he put in the 23081 build
In simple terms i mean is that they JUST demand with little or no apprecition of any sorts (i'm not saying that nobody appreciated anybody i'm saying this trend has crept in ....and there are a bunch of such people---> like the 4 people who said "they don't care about appreciation, they just want appreciation ! " that in my view is pretty ridiculous and then the Chefs should sell their ROMs rather than make it availible for anyone and everyone !
Anyways thats my way of showing appreciation and respect.
Maybe this will improve some people NOT that i'm trying to be a "Gandhi" and bring about a revolution at XDA. All I'm doing is just giving a matter a thought which might change the views of others.
Again i repeat NOT to offend/hurt anyone.
If you don't agree with me its absolutely ok.
Thank you all. Keep voting and posting your opinions.
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I mean that most people are passionate here about seeing what's next, and what is tweaked on new builds. I flash multiple times a week still, and love to see what I will find on a new build.
I check here multiple times a day for new things to appear. I can see people getting vocal about wanting to see new cool things. "Where's build 23085!!!" is what I am thinking, but not to piss anybody off or push people. Rather,to want to simply get my hands on it to play.
Also, complainers complain. 99.99% of people are fine with things, but the couple of schmucks complaining may make it appear that most people are ungrateful.
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Amen to that! That's exactly my opinion.
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Amen to that! That's exactly my opinion.
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I agree but 99.9% is according to me increasing at a rapid rate.
Hi everyone. George Hotz is currently being sued by Sony for cracking the PS3, he has opened a blog asking for help and support from people to help him in the dispute with Sony, here is his blog: http://geohotgotsued.blogspot.com/ and site http://geohot.com/
Now he announced live on tv and all over the media that he will be the first person to crack the SE Xperia Play when it comes out, now the idea is to start this bounty thread and help GeoHot with his dispute in return of help with cracking the bootloader in our x10's. I beleive that all Xperia devices are locked the same way and thus cracking the x10 will also help GeoHot cracking the Play in the future. But we need to approach George in the appropriate manner and ask for help that is why i am starting this thread. This will help us also for all next models like the Arc, Play, Pro, Neo etc. So lets gather some donations and then approach George asking for help.
So please all people that are willing to donate just post the amount in red so it can be easily seen to better update the total amount.
I will donate $20 CDN
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there is already a bootloader cracking bounty thread.. why not just tally that up yourself instead of starting a new thread and expecting everyone to post again...
Im sorry if i have offended you..your post sounds rude. I know there is a bounty thread and that is old maybe half the people are not here anymore, also i did not start the thread and i cannot edit it, this is to help Geohot and him to help us. Like i said we need a solid basis and support, i cant just show him the old thread where it mentions nothing about him and expect him to help. If the OP of the thread wants to do that ok i have no problem with that.
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there is already a bootloader cracking bounty thread.. why not just tally that up yourself instead of starting a new thread and expecting everyone to post again...
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This is Different, learn to read ffs!
I'm not rich at the moment but $30USD I can support with.
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I'll take on the couting up amounts..
USD AMOUNT
70$
GBP AMOUNT (based on start of week x-rate - indicative only)
£32.15
EUR AMOUNT (based on start of week x-rate - indicative only)
51.47EUR
I'll donate a percentage of the final total, come the end of February.
I'll get in contact with GEOHOT via the methods I have at the moment, will let you know what he says he usually gets back to me quite quick.
I fail to see how this is any different?
A) This thread doesn't belong in Android Development.
B) This isn't any different than the other thread. Both threads are asking for money to give to someone to crack the bootloader. If Geohot wants to crack the X10 and if ever does, then I'm sure the money in the other thread would go to him.
C) The other thread is *only* 2 weeks old
D) This may all be a bit of 'negotiating' by Geohot. ie. Throw out the ridiculous lawsuit and I'll agree not to crack your SE bootloader. If not, I'll continue.
E) I don't think anyone is being rude but it's really a PITA (not the delicious kind) to come in the Development forum and see donation threads repeated ad naseum. He was simply stating facts.
Have anyone of you wrote him?
Sure it would be great if he want to helps us, but i don't think so
But you can ask him, for sure i will provide the informations that i have about our phones and i think the others won't make secrets too.
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Bin4ry
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But you can ask him, for sure i will provide the informations that i have about our phones and i think the others won't make secrets too.
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Bin4ry you have an awesome attitude... there are some really negative people on this board, but you're helpful and friendly. Just want to say you're appreciated on here. Cheers dude.
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Have anyone of you wrote him?
Sure it would be great if he want to helps us, but i don't think so
But you can ask him, for sure i will provide the informations that i have about our phones and i think the others won't make secrets too.
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Bin4ry
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Hi Bin4ry this is why I started this thread to have some basis when we contact him and to show him that this is for him and that people are willing to support him in return of help with the bootloader cracking. Thank you for your help as the other person said you are really appreciated here and we could be where were at if it wasn't for you and the other devs.
People please stop complaining about the thread. If mods feel this should be moved or closed they can do so. I just believe we can make something out of this. So please if you want to help just post the amount or how you plan to help. Anyone that doesn't agree with the thread please don't post and start arguments., after all this is for all of us.
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Why don't you contact him first get a figure or an agreement go help then get donations. At the minute it could all be a waste of time. Contact him first see what he says
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excellent initiative
very good initiative here, hopefully our 'bounty' can cover some of the legal costs and help out a good Samaritan like ge0hot. Power to the people!
Great News!!! I've got a response!!!
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wtf are people talking about!
Geohot is just a glorified hacker who's a media whore. He didnt crack the ps3, Fail0verflow did and they didnt release the private keys, geohot did, all he did was make piracy an option for ps3 owners and cause honest consumers grief or at least he will do. Also he is just in it to get publicity as he thinks that some big company will hire him. Any good company will see through his stupidity. Sorry i just really dont like Geohot... I think the SG playstation podcast explains it pretty well.
I doubt he'll do it, when he tried to hack the ps3 before he failed and when others analysed his work it seemed like a very stupid way to do it.
He hasnt had that much experiance with android/mobile devices like j and z and all the other brilliant devs around here. He's not as great as you might think, he's just an average hacker with a big ego and a lot of publicity.
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Why don't you contact him first get a figure or an agreement go help then get donations. At the minute it could all be a waste of time. Contact him first see what he says
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Like I said I think we need basis (something we can show) to contact him and ask for help thus the thread... to show effort. Anyway since he already responded we can maybe offer to help pay for his x10 you guys decide.
To the person above.. he might be a lot of things but he did hack the iPhone and I think he is a good hacker despite ego media etc.. we need help with the bootloader and we got nothing to loose. So don't start arguments this is pointless like I said... if you don't like the idea don't post.
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To the person above.. he might be a lot of things but he did hack the iPhone and I think he is a good hacker despite ego media etc.. we need help with the bootloader and we got nothing to loose. So don't start arguments this is pointless like I said... if you don't like the idea don't post.
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i suppose, its just i dont trust him. I have a feeling he'll take all the credit when theres a 65+ page thread documenting various devs attempts at hacking the bootloader. Also i just feel like people praise him a bit too much so it annoys me.
I'll give him the sorta benifit of the doubt and hope that he actually does make some more progress with hacking the bootloader.
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Like I said I think we need basis (something we can show) to contact him and ask for help thus the thread... to show effort. Anyway since he already responded we can maybe offer to help pay for his x10 you guys decide.
To the person above.. he might be a lot of things but he did hack the iPhone and I think he is a good hacker despite ego media etc.. we need help with the bootloader and we got nothing to loose. So don't start arguments this is pointless like I said... if you don't like the idea don't post.
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Don't you think that he has enough money from donations he already received.
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i suppose, its just i dont trust him. I have a feeling he'll take all the credit when theres a 65+ page thread documenting various devs attempts at hacking the bootloader. Also i just feel like people praise him a bit too much so it annoys me.
I'll give him the sorta benifit of the doubt and hope that he actually does make some more progress with hacking the bootloader.
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I think the same way but still there is a big chance also to your previous post as far as I know ios and android are both Linux based but I also don't think bootloadr has anything to do with OS.
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Don't you think that he has enough money from donations he already received.
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This is what I am talking about... he might be a millionaire or have tons of donations it doesn't matter.. what matters is our effort and what we have to offer and show that we are a strong community that needs help.
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Lol.. i was banned from the SE forums.
For pointing out that the new range of phones don't meet standards.
Tiny Wings Bounce you play as the bird who cant fly because he is too fat. However press anywhere on the lower and middle of screen and he can bounce.Collect yellow coins to add time on the timer , collect blue coins to add double yellow coins time to the timer. Windows mobile WVGA 800x480 resolution. For smooth performance turn off othe running apps.
Features:
Highscore save to challenge yourself over and over.
Background color changes to reflect time is running out.
Catchy music and sound-effects.
How to play
Tap anywhere on the screen to bounce
If you collect a yellow coin , tap again to do double and triple jumps.
Extra: If anyone can make a good video put it on youtube and here , I will send you a computer version you can play on your PC.
Original Tiny Wings game made by Andreas illger for iphone.
So what type of highscores does everyone have? 40,000 , 50,000 or 100,000 . I look forward to seeing screenshots posted.
Hi, I will get the ball rolling. After playing this addicting game for a while, my highest score thus far is 63,010 points.
Edit: My new high score is 84,170 points.
http://www.andreasilliger.com/
I hope you got permission for that audio.
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http://www.andreasilliger.com/
I hope you got permission for that audio.
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Well I got the audio from a video not his website. I love when people somehow become police around here. Iam not selling the game but providing freeware. I love it !!! I make a freeware game and someone always comes with copywrite stuff all the time.
Look Iam making games so that when people get bored they can play for FREE. Its not like Iam making a million dollars ripping someone off!!! Iam making zero,$0,nada,nothing from this game. I swear people start this non-sense because they have no life.
Well I'm not gonna do anything about it, but someone else might; people are police around here cuz xda as a whole is trying to keep a clean professional rep. In general, mobile piracy happens mostly on forums, and xda doesn't want to be associated with that.
The least you could do is say "inspired by" and "music / noises by" in your first post, and provide a link to the iOS game...
Also, it's not nonsense; the US government (and most of the world for that matter) haven't yet decided how to handle copyright cases, and so there are a lot of unreasonable consequences forced upon the defendant. Even for petty cases, the courts and government turn a blind eye to illegal responses (and in excessive force) by companies "protecting" their content. Even in something as small as this, for your own good, cover your back.
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Well I'm not gonna do anything about it, but someone else might; people are police around here cuz xda as a whole is trying to keep a clean professional rep. In general, mobile piracy happens mostly on forums, and xda doesn't want to be associated with that.
The least you could do is say "inspired by" and "music / noises by" in your first post, and provide a link to the iOS game...
Also, it's not nonsense; the US government (and most of the world for that matter) haven't yet decided how to handle copyright cases, and so there are a lot of unreasonable consequences forced upon the defendant. Even for petty cases, the courts and government turn a blind eye to illegal responses (and in excessive force) by companies "protecting" their content. Even in something as small as this, for your own good, cover your back.
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So in your mind me using the music is equivelent to piracy. So how about all the
ROMs and android working on windows mobile , do you think thats legal?
If you didnt know Tiny Wings is an iphone game , which most people do , its not my fault.
Look at flash games that use mario or sonic , look at the internet as a whole. Piracy is giving away payed goods for free or making money off of someones work.
Obviously you dont even know the definition of Piracy if you think Iam a pirate Hahahahaha . Now thats too funny , also Mr.Andreas already knows about my port and doesnt care .
Freeware=Piracy LOL!!!
I do not think this is piracy, I merely pointed out that forums such as these are easily susceptible to unknowingly hosting several kinds of illicit data. If whatshisface is ok with it so be it, but I still think you should give him credit for the idea out of common decency.
I have not been attacking you at all, so stop being overly defensive.
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I do not think this is piracy, I merely pointed out that forums such as these are easily susceptible to unknowingly hosting several kinds of illicit data. If whatshisface is ok with it so be it, but I still think you should give him credit for the idea out of common decency.
I have not been attacking you at all, so stop being overly defensive.
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In a way you have been attacking him and continue too by calling his game illicit data.. are you an xda Mod? No i didn't think so, so stop trying to police this thread!! If you have a problem with it use the report button thats what it's there for!! Can you honestly sit there and say you wouldn't get defensive if you spent countless hours making fun games to share for FREE, then instead of getting thanked, all you get in return is "I hope you got permission for that audio."? Give OP a break, I'm sure if it was such a problem xda wouldn't allow him to continually share his works here!!
@ Op.. Thanks again for sharing all your fun games with us!!
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In a way you have been attacking him and continue too by calling his game illicit data.. are you an xda Mod? No i didn't think so, so stop trying to police this thread!! If you have a problem with it use the report button thats what it's there for!! Can you honestly sit there and say you wouldn't get defensive if you spent countless hours making fun games to share for FREE, then instead of getting thanked, all you get in return is "I hope you got permission for that audio."? Give OP a break, I'm sure if it was such a problem xda wouldn't allow him to continually share his works here!!
@ Op.. Thanks again for sharing all your fun games with us!!
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I am merely giving a friendly warning. Technically, it isn't legal even if it's non profit...
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I am merely giving a friendly warning. Technically, it isn't legal even if it's non profit...
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Again let xda deal with it if it's not legal! I still fail to see how your comment "I hope you got permission for that audio" translates to a so called friendly warning? You would have pm'ed him your message or would have worded it differently if your intent was to be friendly. To me it seems like your trying to start trouble here and get it removed.
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Also, yeah, this stuff is perfectly legal.
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Again let xda deal with it if it's not legal! I still fail to see how your comment "I hope you got permission for that audio" translates to a so called friendly warning? You would have pm'ed him your message or would have worded it differently if your intent was to be friendly. To me it seems like your trying to start trouble here and get it removed.
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Instead of "letting xda deal with it", you could, you know, give credit and cover your back so xda doesn't have to deal with it. If I were trying to get it removed, I would have actually done something. Talking to you guys about covering your backs isn't starting trouble...
Also, "friendly warning" = no repercussions. I'm warning him, I'm not calling him out on it or tipping off anyone. I'm not being nice about it either, because not giving credit to the author is very discourteous, legality aside.
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Instead of "letting xda deal with it", you could, you know, give credit and cover your back so xda doesn't have to deal with it. If I were trying to get it removed, I would have actually done something. Talking to you guys about covering your backs isn't starting trouble...
Also, "friendly warning" = no repercussions. I'm warning him, I'm not calling him out on it or tipping off anyone. I'm not being nice about it either, because not giving credit to the author is very discourteous, legality aside.
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No actually that would be warning = no repercussions. You claimed "friendly" when there's been nothing friendly about any of your posts in this thread. You're acting as if he took the original, resized it, and is now calling it his own or as if he owes you something. Like I said if it was such a problem xda would/could make appropriate changes not you!! You shared your views and gave your "friendly" warning to the op so move on already!!
I ,like many other users, appreciate the hard work and time OP puts into bringing us all these amazing games! So lets get this thread back on track.. Any new high scores out there??
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No actually that would be warning = no repercussions. You claimed "friendly" when there's been nothing friendly about any of your posts in this thread. You're acting as if he took the original, resized it, and is now calling it his own or as if he owes you something. Like I said if it was such a problem xda would/could make appropriate changes not you!! You shared your views and gave your "friendly" warning to the op so move on already!!
I ,like many other users, appreciate the hard work and time OP puts into bringing us all these amazing games! So lets get this thread back on track.. Any new high scores out there??
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Why don't you let OP fight his own battles, please?
Look Timmy Marsh is the Moderator for this forum. If he says its ok then its ok end of story.
1)This game is all over the internet , no problems as the developer Andreas knows about this game.
2)Also everybody knows about the iphone game that Andreas made. Its like angry birds , everyone knows who made that game.
3)I never ever said I originally made this game. All I say is I brought it here for everyone to enjoy.
So your one of the few people who are still waiting for developers to make iphone/ipod games for windows mobile6.1,6.5. Its never going to happen , we never gotten that type of support. XDA-developers was started because Micro-soft didnt give windows mobile proper support . I got sick and tired of not having games that I want on my phone , so now I make them. I share them here so other people can play too. ALL FREE! The reason I get upset is because people always complaining I stole someone works which is ridiculous.
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Look Timmy Marsh is the Moderator for this forum. If he says its ok then its ok end of story.
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I am not saying this is a rip off, or is stolen, or etc. But unless you acknowledge the source, you kind of give off that impression. That was my initial impression; and now I see that impression was wrong ONLY after we've had this argument. Which brings me to my next point;
The reason I get upset is because people always complaining I stole someone works which is ridiculous.
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Maybe if you posted a link to the original work, people would stop getting that idea. Just acknowledge the author or source some way, as standard procedure. If you clearly mention right off the bat; "This is a clone of the game [x] for the [y]" then no one will think you're hiding something, or covering it up.
"I never ever said I originally made this game. All I say is I brought it here for everyone to enjoy."
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While technically correct, this is misleading; if you have no problem admitting this is a clone, why not just say... this is a clone of [insert source here]? Don't be misleading, that arouses suspicion.
I never mis-lead anyone , how long have you been here? I have made Mario games, doodle jump,angry birds etc. Games everyone knows I didnt come up with myself. If you didnt know who made those big games by now I would be shocked!
Now the way you just carried on and keep going , Iam %100 sure you wanted to start a fight. The conversation is going no-where and what your saying right now is sounding real stupid. Your going to tell me people dont know who made Super Mario,doodle jump,angry birds, or tiny wings , thats a laugh.
Iam supposed to post a link to an iphone game that doesnt even run on windows mobile , are you serious? Thats the stupidest thing I heard yet , thanks for the laugh by the way. You said its legal to change ROMs and run Android on windows mobile shows me you dont even know what your talking about. Did you know Microsoft tried to shut down XDA because of ROM a long time ago? No you didnt. Did you know apple tried to sue when XDA had a iphone screen run on windows mobile? No you didnt. All you know is how to harrass me , hahahaha. Go make an original game post it here and show me how its done LOL.
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Your going to tell me people dont know who made Super Mario,doodle jump,angry birds, or tiny wings , thats a laugh.
Iam supposed to post a link to an iphone game that doesnt even run on windows mobile , are you serious?
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I know of super mario, but I have never heard of doodle jump or angry birds. I happen to know of tiny wings by chance; don't assume that everyone knows about a game just because of popularity. And I think we can safely assume that the users here know an iOS app won't run on their wm device, but that isn't the purpose of posting a link; listing the source for any work is just a standard and respectable practice... Your seniority in this forum doesn't change that fact, nor does it have anything to do with this argument...
I'm not going to address the rest of your comment, but I will say this; just because a company whines about something doesn't make it illegal (they probably wish it was). Those were accusations, nothing more.
I am not looking for a fight, I merely continued because I thought you would listen to reason, but apparently we just cannot agree on this point... and since you don't seem to be able to carry out an argument without resorting to ad hominem, I'm ending my involvement here.
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I agree with link68759 with the music, Andreas Illiger explicitly states that the Tiny Wings music "is not for use in other movies, games, tv shows, etc. and you should not earn any money with it or distribute it in any form."
Running official ICS stock and rooted. I have access to both recoveries on my phone. Using the button combo I get 3e and using a manager app I get CWM. When I tried a reboot from 3e recovery I got this...on the bottom left of the screen, is this the same as a kernel panic?
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Why two threads?
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Because he thinks safe mode is special enough to warrant 2 of them?
Seriously though it's just safe mode. Google it. Normal and been around for quite some time
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You would not believe the information Google search gave me when I typed in "safe mode galaxy s2". It was unreal!. Instead of starting 2 threads 20 minutes apart, which you've been a member long enough to know better, just take a deep breath, don't panic, and think for a few minutes on how to figure this out without back to back threads.
Trust me, there was no panic and you're right ...but my time should be an indication that maybe it was an accident...posting from mobile I lost signal in the middle of an edit of the title and it posted twice on it's own. I was just looking to share something I thought was kinda cool as I was unaware that the phone has a safe mode. Trust me my days of panic over a phone are long gone. But thank you to all you Google share holders for the advice.
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Trust me your right, and there was no panic...and my time should be an indication that maybe it was an accident...posting from mobile I lost signal in the middle of an edit of the title and it posted twice on it's own. I was just looking to share something I thought was kinda cool as I was unaware that the phone has a safe mode. Trust me my days of panic over a phone are long gone. But thank you to all you Google share holders for the advice.
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yer right. We should definitely have searched Google for you and posted the results instead of allowing you to figure it out for yourself and learn something.
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So the mods pulled my post?...you have to admit though, it was pretty good and I would like to thank you for giving me the perfect oppurtunity to use that one! Gave you a good slap on the old thanks button just for it too...and to the mods I apologize for having a bit of fun and posting a Troll Bait thread but you have to admit, it's so freaking easy on here, and it's almost always the same ones! Man it's like shooting fish in a barrel!! Now if you dont mind since it appears to be the accepted norm around here...I'm gonna go be an ass in someone else's thread. :angel:
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it's so freaking easy on here, and it's almost always the same ones! Man it's like shooting fish in a barrel!!
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Sooooo, it's almost impossible? Cmon, tell me you've seen that episode of MythBusters?!
Fail!
Clay
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Bang...and another one floats to the top! You guys need another hobby...This ia not the Development forum...its Q&A and I posted a question, GET OVER IT and stay out of the thread if you're coming here with crap. This is not directed at the persons pointing out the double posts (that was totally unintentional) as I was unaware this had happened but whats the point of even having a Q&A thread if people are just going to come in it and say..."you should've Googled that". Instead of comprehending my explanation and the reason for posting the thread in which I clearly explain in my second post (post # 5)...you choose to show your level of intelligence is limited to the MOB MENTALITY of: ..."you should've Googled that". Guess you were raised to think it's OK to be an A-hole every chance you get, and from the safety and cozy little comfort of your keyboard...it's not and only shows an immature attitude. And though some are fairly young I cant imagine why at any point in your life you would ever want to come off as "childish"? You shouldn't type anything in your post you wouldn't say to the person as if they were in the same room. We all have something in common here on this Forum...Android Phones, and something more in common Samsung Android phones, and another thing in common; reading/posting and being a member on a forum site for Samsung Android phones (would't it be cool if more of your friends had these things in common with you?) ...yet some of you feel the need to bash in another persons thread every chance you get and if you really think about it...ANY thread in this section could've been googled...seriously what's the point of the section then? I've gone back and read some "posting history" of the people who have posted negatively and one of you in particular must clearly have developed 'Coulrophobia" just from your first 2 attempts at posting a thread. Maybe that would explain the reason for your obvious angst toward others? Remember where you have come from and learn from it...just because your at a different point now doesn't make you better than anyone else...espescially me. In conclusion...if you feel I or anyone for that matter made an error in posting and not google search first, how does you coming in here just to flame (also XDA rule violation) make any sense? It doesn't and is just as much a FAIL as anything in these forums. Cheers!
You mad bro?
Seriously though, take this into consideration:
You posted a thread without so much as giving ANY effort into finding the answer yourself. This in turn creates clutter, useless information and most of all, irritation from those who scour these forums looking for problems to solve. In simplistic form: wasting time.
As was already stated, it took someone less time to find the answer you were looking for than it took for you to make this thread. When the answer is so readily available, is it really such a hard concept to grasp that those with lots of knowledge about our phones (supposedly including you) get irritated when they read threads like this everyday?
Hell, I did it when I first got my GS2, but I quickly learned how things work around here and how to keep it running smoothly.
[EDIT] PS - You missed. When that shot entered the water it was deflected by the resistance of the waters' surface. You now have a hole in the side of your fish barrel... And no dead fish!
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Bang...and another one floats to the top! You guys need another hobby...This ia not the Development forum...its Q&A and I posted a question, GET OVER IT and stay out of the thread if you're coming here with crap. This is not directed at the persons pointing out the double posts (that was totally unintentional) as I was unaware this had happened but whats the point of even having a Q&A thread if people are just going to come in it and say..."you should've Googled that". Instead of comprehending my explanation and the reason for posting the thread in which I clearly explain in my second post (post # 5)...you choose to show your level of intelligence is limited to the MOB MENTALITY of: ..."you should've Googled that". Guess you were raised to think it's OK to be an A-hole every chance you get, and from the safety and cozy little comfort of your keyboard...it's not and only shows an immature attitude. And though some are fairly young I cant imagine why at any point in your life you would ever want to come off as "childish"? You shouldn't type anything in your post you wouldn't say to the person as if they were in the same room. We all have something in common here on this Forum...Android Phones, and something more in common Samsung Android phones, and another thing in common; reading/posting and being a member on a forum site for Samsung Android phones (would't it be cool if more of your friends had these things in common with you?) ...yet some of you feel the need to bash in another persons thread every chance you get and if you really think about it...ANY thread in this section could've been googled...seriously what's the point of the section then? I've gone back and read some "posting history" of the people who have posted negatively and one of you in particular must clearly have developed 'Coulrophobia" just from your first 2 attempts at posting a thread. Maybe that would explain the reason for your obvious angst toward others? Remember where you have come from and learn from it...just because your at a different point now doesn't make you better than anyone else...espescially me. In conclusion...if you feel I or anyone for that matter made an error in posting and not google search first, how does you coming in here just to flame (also XDA rule violation) make any sense? It doesn't and is just as much a FAIL as anything in these forums. Cheers!
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Well said, I like the way you think.... To bad they don't get the fact acting tuff on here tells a lot about you..... Just glad you see it.
".just because your at a different point now doesn't make you better than anyone else..." <~~~~~ Real talk....
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clay101eve said:
You mad bro?
Seriously though, take this into consideration:
You posted a thread without so much as giving ANY effort into finding the answer yourself. This in turn creates clutter, useless information and most of all, irritation from those who scour these forums looking for problems to solve. In simplistic form: wasting time.
As was already stated, it took someone less time to find the answer you were looking for than it took for you to make this thread. When the answer is so readily available, is it really such a hard concept to grasp that those with lots of knowledge about our phones (supposedly including you) get irritated when they read threads like this everyday?
Hell, I did it when I first got my GS2, but I quickly learned how things work around here and how to keep it running smoothly.
[EDIT] PS - You missed. When that shot entered the water it was deflected by the resistance of the waters' surface. You now have a hole in the side of your fish barrel... And no dead fish!
Clay
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Hmmm and your post helps who how? "This in turn creates clutter, useless information and most of all, irritation from those who scour these forums looking for problems to solve"
I think the question has been answered, lets let this thread die a natural death. Glad the OP got an answer.
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I think the question has been answered, lets let this thread die a natural death. Glad the OP got an answer.
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Agreed....
All work and no play makes jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes jack a dull boy.
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All work and no play makes jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes jack a dull boy.
All work and no play makes jack a dull boy.
All work and no play makes jack a dull boy.
All work and no play makes jack a dull boy.
So sad to what this forum has become. This used to be where everyone posted their work sharing or not, so others could benefit from it....closed or enclosed. A place to make our machines the best they can be, to the point where if you mentioned this name or that name or mention this mod or that mod you will get banned. Simply terrible!!!! Now if you read my posts and see I hardly say anything and ive been here for a while. I've gotten to the point that this site is not much fun anymore. Example.... If a bunch of people want to post there home screens on a dev page, let them post it. It's tribute to the dev and no harm is done. Plus others can learn by actually learn by seeing there home screens. I'm just trying to bring back the actualization why we are all here in the first place....to learn... To contribute... To benefit, and make our pieces of machinery the best they cab be.
So in all, this community needs to be best and a top notch better then the rest. Keep pushing mods away and we will become second to none. I got enough off my chest. Good night...... Good fight.
Love all....
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I agree it's sad we have to watch what we say and can't share all of our work because of petty drama. But it is what it is. Kinda feels like the Apple/Google patent trolling. Just wish people would be mature and let better things improve our experience for everyone, but I know that's a utopia and won't happen. I also know there's more to it than that. I don't want to add fuel... But yes, I do wish that whole thing played out differently.
But I don't think home screen posts should flood a dev thread. It's annoying as it is having to sift through dozens of the same questions that are answered in the op. When I look at a rom or kernel or mod thread, I want to know the progress, the bugs, user experiences, and the direction of development. Not how people are laying out their widgets and apps. Not that so and so is drunk and wants to say what's up, although sometimes those can be entertaining. Not little chit chat of members catching up because they hadn't talked in a while. It's going to happen regardless of what I want... But I can dream. Don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting these things be prohibited... Just sharing my views on the matter.
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Just don't contribute here, simple as that.
There are other places with a lot of people you already know.
What I love most is the fact that everyone wants to complain about rules, how much drama there is and how much fun they aren't having.
You want to know how much "fun" I've had in the past 8 months? No you don't because you don't really care.
Devs decide how much off topic to allow in their threads. If the dev wants the thread to be strictly development that's where it stands. We have share your home screen threads so you can show off your home screen. Not all developers want to see it.
Drama concerning users that aren't on this site. I personally tried to get everyone cooperating before all of the drama happened. We have rules, just like other sites have rules. This Site and that dev parted ways, and came to an agreement that his stuff was not to be used or linked here and his name was to be erased from the site and not to be mentioned. Because his work is not to be used here and we want no ties with him that makes his kernels warez.
Everything was fine for about a month, but I guess that was before source was released. There are other kernel devs out there but they won't post because the users in this forum bring so much trash into threads. I know at least 2 other people in this forum that are working on kernels, none of which have any threads for their work.
But does it matter? No. Because everyone is stuck on the second coming of a dev that won't/can't come back.
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What I love most is the fact that everyone wants to complain about rules, how much drama there is and how much fun they aren't having.
You want to know how much "fun" I've had in the past 8 months? No you don't because you don't really care.
Devs decide how much off topic to allow in their threads. If the dev wants the thread to be strictly development that's where it stands. We have share your home screen threads so you can show off your home screen. Not all developers want to see it.
Drama concerning users that aren't on this site. I personally tried to get everyone cooperating before all of the drama happened. We have rules, just like other sites have rules. This Site and that dev parted ways, and came to an agreement that his stuff was not to be used or linked here and his name was to be erased from the site and not to be mentioned. Because his work is not to be used here and we want no ties with him that makes his kernels warez.
Everything was fine for about a month, but I guess that was before source was released. There are other kernel devs out there but they won't post because the users in this forum bring so much trash into threads. I know at least 2 other people in this forum that are working on kernels, none of which have any threads for their work.
But does it matter? No. Because everyone is stuck on the second coming of a dev that won't/can't come back.
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Again, what about the ILLEGAL PRL, and WiFi tether? Is that not warez?
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Again, what about the ILLEGAL PRL, and WiFi tether? Is that not warez?
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We can't control what Prl you flash. It's also not the greatest idea in general. The site has numerous carriers, if you choose to flash something that is not meant for your carrier that's up to you.
All carriers have things in place to stop people from tethering and using other prls. They can stop it if they want. If they hit us with a c&d we would block it all, however wifi tether apps are on the play store. Kernels are governed by a specific law the gpl, we require that is complied with. Technically you can say that rooting your phone shouldn't be allowed since the carriers don't want that either. Wrong battle to fight.
pstevep said:
What I love most is the fact that everyone wants to complain about rules, how much drama there is and how much fun they aren't having.
You want to know how much "fun" I've had in the past 8 months? No you don't because you don't really care.
Devs decide how much off topic to allow in their threads. If the dev wants the thread to be strictly development that's where it stands. We have share your home screen threads so you can show off your home screen. Not all developers want to see it.
Drama concerning users that aren't on this site. I personally tried to get everyone cooperating before all of the drama happened. We have rules, just like other sites have rules. This Site and that dev parted ways, and came to an agreement that his stuff was not to be used or linked here and his name was to be erased from the site and not to be mentioned. Because his work is not to be used here and we want no ties with him that makes his kernels warez.
Everything was fine for about a month, but I guess that was before source was released. There are other kernel devs out there but they won't post because the users in this forum bring so much trash into threads. I know at least 2 other people in this forum that are working on kernels, none of which have any threads for their work.
But does it matter? No. Because everyone is stuck on the second coming of a dev that won't/can't come back.
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Just wanted to thank you for this explaination of why they are considered "warez" on XDA. It's not because they are actually "warez" or illegal as some seem unwilling to stop publically claiming, but rather because XDA and he have mutually decided that they are not for XDA. Altough I don't understand why if something is found elsewhere that works for some it cannot be discussed. I understand not linking, but discussing. Altough, I guess it just leads to flame wars and is best not talked about at all. Thanks pstevep!
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We can't control what Prl you flash. It's also not the greatest idea in general. The site has numerous carriers, if you choose to flash something that is not meant for your carrier that's up to you.
All carriers have things in place to stop people from tethering and using other prls. They can stop it if they want. If they hit us with a c&d we would block it all, however wifi tether apps are on the play store. Kernels are governed by a specific law the gpl, we require that is complied with. Technically you can say that rooting your phone shouldn't be allowed since the carriers don't want that either. Wrong battle to fight.
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But you can supply it, so its illegal to do drugs but, you supply them?
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But you can supply it, so its illegal to do drugs but, you supply them?
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It's not illegal. The things you mentioned are not illegal.
Yeah without all the drama here I've become bored with this place.
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But you can supply it, so its illegal to do drugs but, you supply them?
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Man...there is no LAW that says that rooting your phone or using wireless tether is against the law. GPL is based on copyright law so it is a law that has to be followed.
Rooting your phone and using wireless tether might be against your contract with your carrier but there is NO LAW that says you cannot do it.
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what is the point of flaming mods for doing what they need to do to keep order?
Lead by example
I'm sorry, but your definition is incorrect
— n
informal illegally copied computer software which has had its protection codes de-activated (Dictionary DOT com)
You're upsetting people by using terminology that already exists to wrongfully describe someone. You CAN NOT change the dictionary. You CAN NOT say that someone who is black that is actually white
you want this to stop. stop saying things like that. When a cop faces a near rioting crowd, the last thing he should do is beat one with his flashlight to push everyone over the limit and start rioting. your problem may not have started with the mods, but it's being perpetuated by their poor handling. *including this quoted post*
you must conduct yourself in an acceptable manner even in the face of adversity. If you're a moderator, you should be held to a higher standard and people all around the web complain about XDA's moderators the most ~ wonder why.
pstevep said:
What I love most is the fact that everyone wants to complain about rules, how much drama there is and how much fun they aren't having.
You want to know how much "fun" I've had in the past 8 months? No you don't because you don't really care.
Devs decide how much off topic to allow in their threads. If the dev wants the thread to be strictly development that's where it stands. We have share your home screen threads so you can show off your home screen. Not all developers want to see it.
Drama concerning users that aren't on this site. I personally tried to get everyone cooperating before all of the drama happened. We have rules, just like other sites have rules. This Site and that dev parted ways, and came to an agreement that his stuff was not to be used or linked here and his name was to be erased from the site and not to be mentioned. Because his work is not to be used here and we want no ties with him that makes his kernels warez.
Everything was fine for about a month, but I guess that was before source was released. There are other kernel devs out there but they won't post because the users in this forum bring so much trash into threads. I know at least 2 other people in this forum that are working on kernels, none of which have any threads for their work.
But does it matter? No. Because everyone is stuck on the second coming of a dev that won't/can't come back.
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I'm sorry, but your definition is incorrect
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informal illegally copied computer software which has had its protection codes de-activated (Dictionary DOT com)
You're upsetting people by using terminology that already exists to wrongfully describe someone. You CAN NOT change the dictionary. You CAN NOT say that someone who is black that is actually white
you want this to stop. stop saying things like that. When a cop faces a near rioting crowd, the last thing he should do is beat one with his flashlight to push everyone over the limit and start rioting. your problem may not have started with the mods, but it's being perpetuated by their poor handling. *including this quoted post*
you must conduct yourself in an acceptable manner even in the face of adversity. If you're a moderator, you should be held to a higher standard and people all around the web complain about XDA's moderators the most ~ wonder why.
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That almost made a point.
Except.
It states that it's warez, which is slang (as notated in your definition by "informal"). And in this instance means not allowed on this site.
Really? You don't want to argue semantics with me, it's not worth it to either of us.
This site is fine. It's the users ruining it. Not reading rules, not abiding by them or arguing them in inappropriate ways (this thread for example) . I've been to plenty of sub forums in this site where things are fine.
I think everyone is expecting this to be picture perfect when it never will be. There will always be someone doing something they shouldn't and whether people do things they should or should not do in response to it determines how these forums are viewed. :beer:
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I really hate to jump into this topic as I have been trying really hard to ignore it but it just keeps popping up. So here is my 2 cents.
XDA-Developers is a PRIVATELY OWNED Site. The rules they have or want to impose on people that use this site are up to them. When they make a decision to enforce a rule, good or bad, It stands.
From all my years of browsing forums, One thing stands out among all comunities.
That people think this little corner of the internet is a Democracy.
It is in fact not, It is more of an Autocracy.
To all you homeowners out there or people that can relate to owning property or personal space, How would you feel if someone marched onto your property and tried to tell you what to do, how to do it, and what rules you should have on YOUR property? That wouldn't fly im sure.
The government tells you what you can or cant do with your property, you make decisions about your property as long as its legal and the government tells you its OK.
Joe Crackhead walking by on the street has no right or ability to tell you what to do with any aspect of your property, nor force his opinion on you on what he "thinks" is the best way.
Bottom line is this is the house of XDA, and the owner says what goes.
So please, for the love of god just follow whatever rules they impose, no matter how stupid you may think they are, and go about your daily business. In all actuality you have absolutely no right to ***** and moan about anything the higher ups have to say about squat.
Let the rants and pissing and moaning stop. If you don't like what is going on take it to the source, feel free to contact the owner of the site or the admins directly with your issues. Hell, start a damn petition. But whatever you do just do it off of their private property that they allow you to use before they revoke that "right" you think you have.
IRL you cant even protest on private property, why does anyone think this is any different?
This isn't aimed at anyone or any group specific, Its just aimed at the general population that thinks this is some kind of public property owned by all.
Leave the MODS out of it as they are just following orders from people that tell them what to do. They are in a lose lose situation as if they don't do what they are told they catch **** from the owner/admins and if they do they catch **** from the community.
Do I think the MODS sometimes should handle things in a different way? YES
But guess what? They DON'T have to, and thats not up to me or you to even have an opinion about.
Believe me the people they are answering to are not the community. They explain things that happen out of courtesy.
Get it out of your heads that any of you have any "rights" on this or any other message board and
please, please, please
LET IT DIE
As for the warez argument, warez is software that is shared without permission.
Im not going to get into the "legal or illegal" argument. See my explanation on this website is Privately owned.
If the government says its not illegal great,
If XDA says its illegal then it is illegal on this board.
Government > XDA > You
that's the decision making process here on XDA, simplified of coarse
XDA says no sharing of that software
whats his name says no sharing of that software on XDA
They agree, why cant you?
This is the first and will be the last time you will hear from me about this topic, It is common sense that you all should know.
Wow somebody ban this guy
I don't say a whole lot on these forums, but I'm in them everyday. I've been on xda far longer than most that post in this, or any other thread. I have to say the flaming has gotten to epic proportions, and it was inevitable that the ban hammer was going to fall sooner or later. Xda used to be the "go-to" site for all devs to show their craft. The adoption rate of android has finally caught up with this place and the maturity has plummeted, thus creating a graveyard of devs in its wake. People complain about the mods in the same manner they complain about the police. Without the police, the "kids" would run this place even worse and drive all the talent away. Posting in here shouldn't be a e-pene measuring contest, it should be for the reason we are all here, to live on the cutting edge of software and squeeze everything we can out of our phones.
Boom goes the dynamite