Hello, I really hate that the s3 doesn`t have usb mass storage, I saw someone saying that mtp is better than the clasic transfer but I really see no advantages.Is pretty hard to recover a file once deleted as you can`t assign a drive letter , you can`t use your phone while files are being transferred but the most annoying of all is that you can`t preview your pictures/videos before copying it, so tell me, how is mtp better than usb mass storage that was on s2?
My digital camera has mtp also and I CAN preview the pictures before copying them to my pc so this is possible, the question is how can I do this on my s3 also?Is very annoying that I have to check every picture and video as you don`t know what you are transferring.
Thank you for your potential answers.
I don't know which one is better but if you want UMS then there is a app called easy ums that you can download if you are rooted. Just search for it in the forums.
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thanks but is useless for me, If I would knew about this inconvenient before buying I would have bought the 16 gb version with a 16 gb microsd but I dont have any microsd, I only have the 32 gb of the phone.
but I really see no advantages
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- Far less risk of disk corruption due to advanced filesystem technology (EXT4 instead of FAT32)
- Apps don't loose their data (which they often store on the /sdcard) while mounted on the computer
- Compatibility across all MTP-capable computers and electronic devices
- Conversion into supported format by host computer (ok, that one might not be a real advantage))
Is pretty hard to recover a file once deleted
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It's usually very hard to recover files on any SSD-drive since they usually rely on TRIM support. (FAT32 doesn't even have this capability though)
the most annoying of all is that you can`t preview your pictures/videos before copying it
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I usually use Samba fileshare which, since it's based on SMB, even allows mounting as a drive letter on Windows. (Not a REAL drive though, you can't recover deleted files)
Additionally it only requires a direct or accesspoint-based Wifi connection, not a physical cable between the computer and the phone.
Requires root though (mostly because of it using privileged ports)
If I would knew about this inconvenient before buying
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Why does everyone just assume features to be present which do not have to, and then claim to rely on them?
There's something called Google. Due to performance- and security-reasons more and more devices will drop USB-mount in favor of MTP.
you can`t use your phone while files are being transferred
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You can't use it on Samsung-based firmwares, which sucks. Cyanogenmod doesn't seem to have that restriction.
d4fseeker said:
- Far less risk of disk corruption due to advanced filesystem technology (EXT4 instead of FAT32)
- Apps don't loose their data (which they often store on the /sdcard) while mounted on the computer
- Compatibility across all MTP-capable computers and electronic devices
- Conversion into supported format by host computer (ok, that one might not be a real advantage))
It's usually very hard to recover files on any SSD-drive since they usually rely on TRIM support. (FAT32 doesn't even have this capability though)
I usually use Samba fileshare which, since it's based on SMB, even allows mounting as a drive letter on Windows. (Not a REAL drive though, you can't recover deleted files)
Additionally it only requires a direct or accesspoint-based Wifi connection, not a physical cable between the computer and the phone.
Requires root though (mostly because of it using privileged ports)
Why does everyone just assume features to be present which do not have to, and then claim to rely on them?
There's something called Google. Due to performance- and security-reasons more and more devices will drop USB-mount in favor of MTP.
You can't use it on Samsung-based firmwares, which sucks. Cyanogenmod doesn't seem to have that restriction.
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The usb mass storage was such a nice feature, I couldn`t guess that they will delete it on the s3, the advantages are meaningless as I didin`t had any problem with my s2 . why my digital camera with mtp allows to preview the pictures as thumbnails the the s3 not?Is that impossible to preview the files before copying with the s3 via usb?
saddameu said:
The usb mass storage was such a nice feature, I couldn`t guess that they will delete it on the s3, the advantages are meaningless as I didin`t had any problem with my s2 . why my digital camera with mtp allows to preview the pictures as thumbnails the the s3 not?Is that impossible to preview the files before copying with the s3 via usb?
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i hope there is a solution to this, it's kinda bugging me as well. =(
Workaround : I always rename the pictures or videos in phone 1st before connect to PC. Is easier to recognise which files I want to transfer rather than waiting for the thumbnails.
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Arsaw said:
Workaround : I always rename the pictures or videos in phone 1st before connect to PC. Is easier to recognise which files I want to transfer rather than waiting for the thumbnails.
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well...that works too
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The usb mass storage was such a nice feature, I couldn`t guess that they will delete it on the s3, the advantages are meaningless as I didin`t had any problem with my s2 . why my digital camera with mtp allows to preview the pictures as thumbnails the the s3 not?Is that impossible to preview the files before copying with the s3 via usb?
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Mine lets me see thumbnails for movies and pictures in MTP mode.
Maybe because I'm running CM-based instead of sammy based?
Don't use sammy crap.
Also the wireless samba filesharing mentioned earlier is fantastic, don't have to plug my phone into my pc at all now.
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Mine lets me see thumbnails for movies and pictures in MTP mode.
Maybe because I'm running CM-based instead of sammy based?
Don't use sammy crap.
Also the wireless samba filesharing mentioned earlier is fantastic, don't have to plug my phone into my pc at all now.
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can you please give more details, what exactly did you changed in your phone?
He's running CM, which is Cyanogenmod.
CM is a modified (enhanced) version of Google's original Android version without manufactur-specific bloatware and issues such as Touchwiz which is quite a memory-hog.
Also it usually is somewhat more stable
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He's running CM, which is Cyanogenmod.
CM is a modified (enhanced) version of Google's original Android version without manufactur-specific bloatware and issues such as Touchwiz which is quite a memory-hog.
Also it usually is somewhat more stable
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ok thanks but I think ill pass, from what i`ve read the thread seems that are many issues and bugs with it, won`t worth to gain that preview to get for it tons of bugs and crashes, seems that the only reasonable way is to buy a 16 gb microsd to use it like good old s2.
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ok thanks but I think ill pass, from what i`ve read the thread seems that are many issues and bugs with it, won`t worth to gain that preview to get for it tons of bugs and crashes, seems that the only reasonable way is to buy a 16 gb microsd to use it like good old s2.
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You could also download the XXALF2 kernel and flash it. That fixes MTP connection and you can stay on Sammy ROM. Tried it myself. ALF2 is the last kernel MTP ever worked for me with my iMac. Or cm9 or cm10....
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ok thanks but I think ill pass, from what i`ve read the thread seems that are many issues and bugs with it, won`t worth to gain that preview to get for it tons of bugs and crashes, seems that the only reasonable way is to buy a 16 gb microsd to use it like good old s2.
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You mean 1 or 2 bugs and no crashes?
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bought a 16gb class 10 microsd, I`m happy that at least my card will work the same as s2, I can use my phone while i`m copying files and stuffs, I can preview them before and I also made 5 pictures, deleted them and was able to recover them, this 3 things weren`t possible with the ****ty mtp.The only bad thing seems to be that the burst shot photos are saved on the phone, I heard that somehow we can force the phone to save them to the microsd but I don`t know how.
May not be of any help but I personally use Airdroid for data transfer off the internal memory, aslong as you have a wireless n router I find it better than using MTP. (have had lots of tranfer freeze ups with MTP so gave up using it). Downside is atmo airdroid doesn't seem to be able to access external storage, so would use UMS, card reader, etc for that.
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As detailed here:
http://www.jayceooi.com/2012/03/14/...-storage-on-android-4-0-ics-samsung-galaxy-s2
I need MSC (not MTP) to use the S3 with my backup program. I don't yet have the S3. Thanks in advance.
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As detailed here:
http://www.jayceooi.com/2012/03/14/...-storage-on-android-4-0-ics-samsung-galaxy-s2
I need MSC (not MTP) to use the S3 with my backup program. I don't yet have the S3. Thanks in advance.
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No USB Mass Storage on Galaxy S3. No USB Utilities like Galaxy S2. So file transfering a bit slow esp small file!
Zanr Zij said:
No USB Mass Storage on Galaxy S3. No USB Utilities like Galaxy S2. So file transfering a bit slow esp small file!
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Thanks. That's a shame .
Does USB Debugging enable USB Mass Storage? I believe it does on Gingerbread. I've read reports it doesn't on ICS though.
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Thanks. That's a shame .
Does USB Debugging enable USB Mass Storage? I believe it does on Gingerbread. I've read reports it doesn't on ICS though.
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It does not sadly.
Why there's no mass storage is beyond me. Hopefully a FW update (probably in early autumn) will fix it.
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Why there's no mass storage is beyond me. Hopefully a FW update (probably in early autumn) will fix it.
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I doubt it will come. It's not default in Android anymore.
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Why there's no mass storage is beyond me. Hopefully a FW update (probably in early autumn) will fix it.
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Unfortunately not. Google moved from UMS to MTP with Honeycomb because UMS locks out the storage to the phone when it's plugged into a computer.
I've never heard of this being an actual problem for anyone. You've only got it plugged in for a set period of time.
There's much more on it here: http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...behind-galaxy-nexus-lack-of-usb-mass-storage/
problem with usb storage
Hi, I went to setting, more, USB utilities, this is where my problem starts.
My phone say, "USB is connected. Remove the cable." but my phone isn't connected to the cable!
Any suggestions on what to do?
Thanks
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As detailed here:
http://www.jayceooi.com/2012/03/14/...-storage-on-android-4-0-ics-samsung-galaxy-s2
I need MSC (not MTP) to use the S3 with my backup program. I don't yet have the S3. Thanks in advance.
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If you are having a rooted phone, there are StickMount from chainfire, Alt Mounter and SGS3 easy UMS that will allow you to connect the android in Mass Storage Mode.
Can someone post a link for SGS3 easy UMS because download keeps failing from site and Google didn't help.
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Can someone post a link for SGS3 easy UMS because download keeps failing from site and Google didn't help.
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[APP] [v1.1] Mount external microSD card as USB mass storage
Stick Mounter has nothing to do with UMS.
Alt Mounter requires a helper service on the computer and can only provide FTP access, no real mass storage.
Here's what you can run on the Terminal (the Helper app only runs the commands for you; easier to use)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27282116&postcount=58
So has anyone actually tried SGS3 easy UMS? If it works will the host on my car stereo, tv etc recognise it and is there any system side effects I should know about.
If you don't trust the app (the commands really work =D ), get 'Gscript lite' in Google Play and add the corresponding parts as 2 different scripts which you then put on your homescreen for easy access.
That will do exactly the same for you.
Whether it works with car hifi etc depends on your devices. A user 'Siran' reported that his car-stereo took some time to recognize it and the playback had hiccups, but at least the last issue could be attributed to the SDcard not being unmounted in the phone before mounting it on the computer.
Currently the app uses the 'old method' while my script correctly mounts/unmounts to prevent such issues.
The side effect is the same as always; that particular card is not mounted and available in the phone as long as it's mounted as mass-storage on external devices. However that should not be a real issue. No negative side effects are known or likely to exist.
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If you don't trust the app (the commands really work =D ), get 'Gscript lite' in Google Play and add the corresponding parts as 2 different scripts which you then put on your homescreen for easy access.
That will do exactly the same for you.
Whether it works with car hifi etc depends on your devices. A user 'Siran' reported that his car-stereo took some time to recognize it and the playback had hiccups, but at least the last issue could be attributed to the SDcard not being unmounted in the phone before mounting it on the computer.
Currently the app uses the 'old method' while my script correctly mounts/unmounts to prevent such issues.
The side effect is the same as always; that particular card is not mounted and available in the phone as long as it's mounted as mass-storage on external devices. However that should not be a real issue. No negative side effects are known or likely to exist.
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Well, isn't possible then to use it simultaneously from the phone and the usb? What does this app stand for then?
Multi Mount SD-Card and MountUSB Widget
It is, check the "--- BELOW ..." lines in my link.
However it WILL cause data corruption and data loss and might even cause the SDcard's filesystem to be damaged beyond repair.
What you do is use the same filesystem in 2 distinct locations which individually write on it.
To understand how that causes an issue, you'll have to get a basic understanding of a filesystem; they actually work like a science book.
You have an index listing all directories and files aswell as their relation to each other and where on the SDcard the file is stored.
Now if a file is modified the index is changed and then the file added,changed or deleted.
So far, so wel.
If you now mount it on 2 locations (mind you: filesystems don't know about that, so each location thinks it is the sole one accessing it) and work from 2 locations on the same data you have a rather high chance that one operating system will eventually overwrite or alter data without the other one knowing about it.
If the index is too damaged you'll not only loose some files but potentially all filenames and folders. Applications like Recuva can recover most of the files (at least usually) but it won't be pretty, easy and complete.
Simply don't do it. There is a reason why noone implements it
Just tried SGS3 easy UMS on my Tv and Dvd player through their host and worked fine with music, videos and images, and i'll check my car stereo tomorrow, so thanks d4fseeker.
scandiun said:
If you are having a rooted phone, there are StickMount from chainfire, Alt Mounter and SGS3 easy UMS that will allow you to connect the android in Mass Storage Mode.
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This is different. It's for mounting a USB flash drive on the phone.
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This is different. It's for mounting a USB flash drive on the phone.
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You mean OTG (USB On the GO). I though it was for both OTG and MSC.
Last night, due to the wonders of MTP, it took me nearly 2 hours to transfer 2gb of data from my S2 over to the S3, with many popup interruptions delaying the transfer.
God I hate MTP's speed with many small files. But I guess it could be worse if they locked the filesystem down.
Still no way to mount internal memory when pluging usb to a pc?
No there never will be a real method.
It's possible to do it but your computer won't understand it at all since EXT4 filesystems are only recognized by Linux-based OS.
I'm working on a possible solution but it's cumbersome and difficult so I don't know when to expect a first working alpha.
Why the hell did they remove the access? Windows can see ext4 with some app.
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No, and there won't be. It's not just that it's EXT4, it's because everything that is stored on the phone is in one large block of memory, no partitions. Hence why you have shared memory between apps, and your personal data etc.
EDIT: Besides, why the hell is everyone crying about it anyway.
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No, and there won't be. It's not just that it's EXT4, it's because everything that is stored on the phone is in one large block of memory, no partitions. Hence why you have shared memory between apps, and your personal data etc.
EDIT: Besides, why the hell is everyone crying about it anyway.
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For me, it's for two reasons:
The first (and most annoying) is that i use a bunch of devices that only accept input from a flash drive (such as my car stereo), so instead of just useing my phone in mass storage mode, now i have to use an aux cable, and the sound quality, accessibility, and not to mention safety, is compromised because of that.
Another reason is that for me, MTP is inferior to mass storage in both accessing and transferring multiple files to and from my phone.
I don't really know if it has any redeeming features, if it does, then i guess I'm in the minority that doesn't use them.
I don't really know if it has any redeeming features
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It's designed to work across any devices with optimal usage. E.g. if you put a movie on the phone it will convert it to the phone's screen resolution and codec format.
However I don't see that as a feature since video conversion is realtime at best, meaning you'll have to wait 2 hours to transfer that movie to your phone...
and the sound quality, accessibility, and not to mention safety
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Well... it's forbidden to manipulate the phone in most countries when driving and not using a car-kit. So I don't see a safety issue, only a conveniance issue since you are not allowed that one track that annoys you.
Sound quality isn't that bad with the plug.
Just put all your media on your external SD card and use the app I described, that works flawlessly with car audio.
Windows can see ext4 with some app.
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True, however Windows-based computers can only READ the filesystem. No port I'd know of exists for Mac OS so they would be locked out anyway. Your car radio can only read FAT32 anyway.
Is there a way I can recover my deleted files on my Xperia SOLA mnt/sdcard/DCIM ? I am planning to use Recuva on my Windows PC but it can't read my phone because it is a part of internal memory and won't show as a disk. Are my deleted photos gone forever?
I asked in paranoid android thread about that recently and people told me it's totally possible to mount it, just like sd card...
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Is there a way I can recover my deleted files on my Xperia SOLA mnt/sdcard/DCIM ?
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1. You're in the wrong forum for the Xperia
2. Why are you piggybacking on an old thread instead of creating a new one for your issue? They have nothing in common.
Yes, you should be able to mount it (unless it uses a non-FAT32 filesystem) However since we don't have the Xperia (hint: this is Samsung, not Sony) the exact command is unknown to me.
So, what are the best options to access all the internal storage files from my computer (in linux or windows, it does not matter)?
Also, if I need to send my phone to repair, how do I back up the whole storage? AFAIK CWM does not backup the internal sd card, right?
Is this a major issue or can it be fixed? Connecting as either MTP or PTP: neither allows one to see pictures saved as default by phone camera to DCIM folder on external SD card. my older Samsung galaxy s worked like a charm when connecting to a compute. I could see all pics but not with the SIII. Please, can someone please show me how to fix this?
experiencing the same problem..to see the pics preview(as thumbnails) i have to first transfer it to desktop. it's a hassle =(
SexyIceCream said:
experiencing the same problem..to see the pics preview(as thumbnails) i have to first transfer it to desktop. it's a hassle =(
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I do not understand Samsung( I'm assuming it's their fault) why everytime they take a step forward, they take one step back. Why make things so difficult?
Something wrong your end
Test take two vids and three pictures .
Connect with Samsung usb cable phone and PC .
Open ext sd card in explorer .
Locate DCIM .
Result 3 pictures and two vids visible .
Suggest you backup your data and factory reset .
jje
JJEgan said:
Something wrong your end
Test take two vids and three pictures .
Connect with Samsung usb cable phone and PC .
Open ext sd card in explorer .
Locate DCIM .
Result 3 pictures and two vids visible .
Suggest you backup your data and factory reset .
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You'll have pictures alright, but you can't see the thumbnail at all.
I assumed it has something to do with MTP?
I see the thumbnails fine in MTP mode.
Then again, I'm running AOKP and not sammy based.
See them fine on aosp and cm9
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You'll have pictures alright, but you can't see the thumbnail at all.
I assumed it has something to do with MTP?
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Well no way i would connect my phone to my PC to look at thumbnails .
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JJEgan said:
Well no way i would connect my phone to my PC to look at thumbnails .
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Well, if I am doing a transfer of a particular pic or trying to transfer pics over to my phone I'll like to know which one I am transferring. So, yes, I will need to see a thumbnail of it. I am using the original Samsung ROM. As I said before, the first version did this without any complaints. Why should this be any different?
so, is my only result is to backup 12gigs of info and format my usb and factory reset my phone so I can see thumbnail pics? Sounds ridiculous to me.
On sammy stock rom it wont show you thumbs. Dont know why and dont know how to fix it but i know it doesnt and thats normal.
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OK. So now I have to root my phone, so it would show thumbnails? OK. Thanks for the info. although, very inconvient Samsung!!!!! but if that is what it takes, I'll do it, but I will wait for a while as I just got this phone.
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Is this a major issue or can it be fixed? Connecting as either MTP or PTP: neither allows one to see pictures saved as default by phone camera to DCIM folder on external SD card. my older Samsung galaxy s worked like a charm when connecting to a compute. I could see all pics but not with the SIII. Please, can someone please show me how to fix this?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzT0b3fvuDw. Try This linK should work fine.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzT0b3fvuDw. Try This linK should work fine.
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OK. Thanks but how does video help me? There is no mentioned of my issue i nthat video.
I left a message to the owner of the rom, seems that his rom is able to preview the pictures and I asked him to only make a fix for this, you can support me there to show him that more ppl are interested about this inconvenient so maybe he will fix it for us.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29529887#post29529887
I too am having the same issue with a Sprint Samsung Galaxy S2. The SD Card did connect as a Mass Storage Device with no issues until I upgraded the O/S to ICS version 4.04. After upgrading it only connects as an MTP device. The USB Utilities section of the Settings Menu is no longer there. Either is the option to Connect To PC which enabled the mass storage connection. This is not a Samsung or PC issue. From what I have read this problem is unique to Sprint's version of Ice Cream Sandwich although not having access to other carriers version of ICS, I can not verify this. Perhaps users on other carriers can post more info on this. I am looking at downgrading my phone back to Gingerbread.
anyone came to a solution with this?
experiencing the same thing. i am currently on stock rom ICS.
Hey guys
I have the same problem.
I had it when on stock ICS and now on ARHD 12.0 and cant see thumbnails whwn connected to pc...i mean come on i can see thumbnails on my 7 years old usb mp3 player.:s
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Hello.
Tried to search this, but no luck. Is there a way/mod to connect S III as a mass strorage device? Now the options are Media Device or Camera. I dont like either and it feels really slow this way.
Wildchild6 said:
Hello.
Tried to search this, but no luck. Is there a way/mod to connect S III as a mass strorage device? Now the options are Media Device or Camera. I dont like either and it feels really slow this way.
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I think you can use a program called SGS3 Easy UMS or something like that - but it will only work for SD and when UMS mode is active the phone can not access the SD. Also there is a 'trick' where you sometimes need to stop the media scanner for the program to get exclusive access.
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I think you can use a program called SGS3 Easy UMS or something like that - but it will only work for SD and when UMS mode is active the phone can not access the SD. Also there is a 'trick' where you sometimes need to stop the media scanner for the program to get exclusive access.
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Okay, thanks. I remember someone make this kind of mod to SGS II, but its too bad theres not one awaible on III.
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I think you can use a program called SGS3 Easy UMS or something like that - but it will only work for SD and when UMS mode is active the phone can not access the SD. Also there is a 'trick' where you sometimes need to stop the media scanner for the program to get exclusive access.
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But is there any reason why this very basic feature is not available on this phone?
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But is there any reason why this very basic feature is not available on this phone?
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Yes, because the same card is used for the OS, and "internal SD" as we know it is just a folder on it. So it cannot be mounted in UMS because that would mean unmounting the OS
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Yes, because the same card is used for the OS, and "internal SD" as we know it is just a folder on it. So it cannot be mounted in UMS because that would mean unmounting the OS
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Let's forget for a moment about the internal storage. Let's focus on the uSD.
My recovery (CWM 6.0.2.7 + PhilZ Touch 3) can let me see the uSD as USB mass storage.
What would it be the difficulty to do the same under all these ROMs?
How can a user space application (SGS3 Easy UMS) circumvent an underlying system limitation?
I would like just to understand, not to criticize, of course!
I don't know why the external SD cannot be mounted as UMS right out of the box. Probably because they didn't want to use different standarts at the same time - MTP for internal, UMS for external
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I don't know why the external SD cannot be mounted as UMS right out of the box.
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That's among the most puzzling questions for this otherwise wonderful smartphone. NOne seems to know what's the technical difficulty.
In the beginning I thought it could be a HW limitation. Then my recovery just wiped this doubt out.
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Probably because they didn't want to use different standarts at the same time - MTP for internal, UMS for external
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"They" who? The base OS is either by Samsung or by some Android community (like CyanogenMod) that seems to be unrelated to the Easy UMS author.
It looks like this feature has been just left behind ... Even CM v10.1 has it for all phone I've used so far. All but SGS3!
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In the beginning I thought it could be a HW limitation. Then my recovery just wiped this doubt out.
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Yeah, not just recovery, but easy ums too.
"they" meaning Google.
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"they" meaning Google.
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Hmmm ... do you mean that with "dual storage" device Google code is not contemplating the possibility to provide access to the uSD as a USB mass storage, while doing it with single storage devices?
My old Sensation XE running CM 10.1 was working fine with no need of any extra software ...
This seems to be not less than weird!
I'm saying that they didn't want to have two different standards at the same time - MTP and UMS, as that could be confusing for some users, so they left it for the devs. That's just pure speculation.
They started doing that pretty recently, hence your Sensation has UMS built-in.
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I'm saying that they didn't want to have two different standards at the same time - MTP and UMS, as that could be confusing for some users, so they left it for the devs. That's just pure speculation.
They started doing that pretty recently, hence your Sensation has UMS built-in.
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It looks like this is something they do only with dual storage devices. CM v10.1-nightly on the Sensation works fine.
Honestly, I don't like it. The userland app delivers lower transfer speeds.
And, most important, it doesn't work any more with my car stereo as it used to do with a single storage device.
I personally think this is a great mistake done by Google or whoever else.
AFAIK, Sensation doesn't have this new method of storage allocation, that's why it has UMS.
I've found this (I have no windows at home).
It sheds more light on this topic.
Maybe I'm badly wrong, but my idea is that devs just went completely bulls*it with UMS. My not-so-humble opinion.
USB mass storage protocol was a block-level protocol. What this meant was that a partition could not be mounted on two different systems at the same time. Each partition that needs to be mounted on a computer must be unmounted from the phone first. This would be impossible on a phone with only a single partition, since if the system partition was unmounted, the phone would crash.
To work around this issue, Android phones up until now either had two partitions in the internal memory (like the Nexus S) or had a microSD slot (like the Samsung Galaxy S II). Phones with micro-SD slots would just export the microSD card partitions to the connected computer.
But the Galaxy Nexus only has a single internal partition.
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That's exactly what I was saying, but explained better
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just export the microSD card partitions to the connected computer.
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That's exactly what I was saying, but explained better
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Not exactly. SGS3 does have a uSD, but it doesn't work like that.
Only MTP or PTP are available ...
Uqbar said:
Not exactly. SGS3 does have a uSD, but it doesn't work like that.
Only MTP or PTP are available ...
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Yes, it says "phones up until now", which is what I said. This doesn't include SGS3
If I understood well, Easy UMS simply makes some changes to the default system configuration in order to restore the "standard" USB mass storage profile for the uSD alone.
If this is the case (please provide any feedback, pleeease) I'd push AOSP for restoring it by default.
I've found a nice "mtpfs" package that would allow me to (kind of) mount the storage. But this is a workaround.
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Let's forget for a moment about the internal storage. Let's focus on the uSD.
My recovery (CWM 6.0.2.7 + PhilZ Touch 3) can let me see the uSD as USB mass storage.
What would it be the difficulty to do the same under all these ROMs?
How can a user space application (SGS3 Easy UMS) circumvent an underlying system limitation?
I would like just to understand, not to criticize, of course!
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It is very simple to understand - your recovery knows it will never WRITE to uSD at the same time as the UMS program (which exposes the PHYSICAL card as a block device). In a normal ROM that assumption would be fatal and you would soon have fatal results, so instead MTP/PTP was chosen - which exposes the FILE SYSTEM instead of the BLOCK DEVICE.
So somehow Easy UMS circumvents those restrictions ...
In other cases you got the warning that some applications could possibly not work properly because of multiple concurrent accesses.
But now the situation is much more clear, indeed.
Hi,
I am aware that UMS (USB Mass Storage) has now been replaced by MTP / PTP. I hate this new development. Biggest reason - not possible to sync! And when you're working with thousands of files (not media files), this is crucial. I am now on SnowJB 4.1.2. And wasted 2 days finding a solution.
So, Simple question. Does UMS mode at least work on the oldest ICS ROM available 4.0.4? Can I connect my phone to Windows and have the SD card come up as a drive with a drive letter?
Those who are still on ICS, please let me know so I can ditch all the latest ROMs etc and revert back. MTP sucks. If I had known this was how it was gonna be, I would stayed with my old Motorola Atrix 2.
And another thing, does anyone know of any ROM at all which supports UMS? Or any other work around that does not involve taking my card out and using a card reader etc?
bks666 said:
Hi,
I am aware that UMS (USB Mass Storage) has now been replaced by MTP / PTP. I hate this new development. Biggest reason - not possible to sync! And when you're working with thousands of files (not media files), this is crucial. I am now on SnowJB 4.1.2. And wasted 2 days finding a solution.
So, Simple question. Does UMS mode at least work on the oldest ICS ROM available 4.0.4? Can I connect my phone to Windows and have the SD card come up as a drive with a drive letter?
Those who are still on ICS, please let me know so I can ditch all the latest ROMs etc and revert back. MTP sucks. If I had known this was how it was gonna be, I would stayed with my old Motorola Atrix 2.
And another thing, does anyone know of any ROM at all which supports UMS? Or any other work around that does not involve taking my card out and using a card reader etc?
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Nope, UMS is not available on any rom for this phone.
Any other software for windows file sync?
Ok. Thanks. Anyone know of any software for Windows that can sync all kinds of files? Like a regular FAT32 drive system, only with MTP.
I know I've had the UMS option with at least one ROM, I believe it was CFX.
I'm running Rootbox right now though, so I can't confirm.
OMGMatrix said:
I know I've had the UMS option with at least one ROM, I believe it was CFX.
I'm running Rootbox right now though, so I can't confirm.
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Really? I'm on it now and I don't see a UMS option. What was it under, I'll check?
Wow. There's still hope? CFX? Please, can you confirm?
MTP Sync anyone?
Another option is syncing in MTP mode.
Anyone know if this at least is possible?
What software can be used to transfer only the changed and new files from Windows to your MTP folder?
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Really? I'm on it now and I don't see a UMS option. What was it under, I'll check?
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I don't remember 100% which rom it was on, but I KNOW I've had the option.
EDIT: That is to say, I can't recall ever seeing an actual option in Settings or anything, but I HAVE plugged my phone in to my work computer and had it show up as a UMS device instead of MTP. (the difference being UMS works on my work computer lol [and I mean proper FS access and everything])
It might've been Project E.L.E., might've been LiquidSmooth, might've been Carbon, I honestly don't recall. I know I've seen it once.
OP, just try a bunch of roms. It's not going to hurt anything.
Cheetah Sync is the answer
Back after long for a quick post. Just to inform I found that Cheetah Sync is the answer to (quick enough) syncing. Log on to to your Wifi server and sync away. You need a to install a small program on your desktop as well. Pretty alright. Its the only way to sync all subfolders and files.