Hello all!
My first post here and expectedly, it's regarding the fundamentals of the Android platform..
I have just gotten a Huawei phone, a Huawei Honor to be specific. It's running on Android 4.1 which is Jellybean right?
Hmmm should I do an upgrade to ICS?
And what's this thing about rooting? Is it an requirement to root my phone?
Thanks for the help, much appreciated
y3kesprit said:
Hello all!
My first post here and expectedly, it's regarding the fundamentals of the Android platform..
I have just gotten a Huawei phone, a Huawei Honor to be specific. It's running on Android 4.1 which is Jellybean right?
Hmmm should I do an upgrade to ICS?
And what's this thing about rooting? Is it an requirement to root my phone?
Thanks for the help, much appreciated
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Android 4.0.x was ICS. The newer version is 4.1.X called jelly beans. So you'd be basically downgrading if you went to ICS.
Rooting is done to allow you adminstrator priveliges in Linux, similar to being an administrator in Windows rather than a standard user. You don't need to be rooted, most of the thing can be done without rooting. However, as you continue to use your device, you will often find apps that require changes in the system, hence their requirement will be to be rooted. Trying out different ROMs, customising it so that your wife/gf doesn't recognise your device will P) require you to root your device. For most devices , its pretty simple to root. However, you will learn as you read through posts and threads, and watch videos. Welcome to the Android world!
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y3kesprit said:
Hello all!
My first post here and expectedly, it's regarding the fundamentals of the Android platform..
I have just gotten a Huawei phone, a Huawei Honor to be specific. It's running on Android 4.1 which is Jellybean right?
Hmmm should I do an upgrade to ICS?
And what's this thing about rooting? Is it an requirement to root my phone?
Thanks for the help, much appreciated
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Yes, 4.1 is Jellybean but ICS is a downgrade. It came before Jellybean so you're better off sticking with JB.
It's not a requirement to root your phone but it's great because it gives you complete control of the phone. More control than the phone companies want us to have.
But I would suggest that you don't concentrate on rooting just yet. I say this because you're new to Android and trying to learn too much too quickly can become really confusing.
Before you even think about being ready to root, use these forums and read up about rooting and you'll learn everything you need to know.
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Sorry I got it wrong!
My phone, after I did a check, is running 2.3.6, which is Gingerbread right?
Ok thanks for the replies. It was informational
Anyway, if I were to root the phone, every different version has its own process to root right?
For example if I am running 2.3.6, and root it.. After I do a upgrade to ICS, I would have to re-root right? Am I getting this right?
y3kesprit said:
Sorry I got it wrong!
My phone, after I did a check, is running 2.3.6, which is Gingerbread right?
Ok thanks for the replies. It was informational
Anyway, if I were to root the phone, every different version has its own process to root right?
For example if I am running 2.3.6, and root it.. After I do a upgrade to ICS, I would have to re-root right? Am I getting this right?
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Yes that's Gingerbread.
The bit you're wrong about is the rooting bit. Rooting a device doesn't allow you to update to ICS when you couldn't before. If all you want to do is update to ICS then you don't need to root, you just need to look into flashing the device. When flashing it puts a whole different eom, kernel, theme etc onto the device.
You'll be better off looking that up through threads here on XDA or by watching videos on YouTube to show you how to do it. That's how I learnt to do it all.
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Yes that's Gingerbread.
The bit you're wrong about is the rooting bit. Rooting a device doesn't allow you to update to ICS when you couldn't before. If all you want to do is update to ICS then you don't need to root, you just need to look into flashing the device. When flashing it puts a whole different eom, kernel, theme etc onto the device.
You'll be better off looking that up through threads here on XDA or by watching videos on YouTube to show you how to do it. That's how I learnt to do it all.
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Okay...
So I want to root as well as upgrade to ICS, how should I go about doing it?
I will go do a youtube and forum search now as well
y3kesprit said:
Sorry I got it wrong!
My phone, after I did a check, is running 2.3.6, which is Gingerbread right?
Ok thanks for the replies. It was informational
Anyway, if I were to root the phone, every different version has its own process to root right?
For example if I am running 2.3.6, and root it.. After I do a upgrade to ICS, I would have to re-root right? Am I getting this right?
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That depends. If you root your phone, and YOU perform the upgrade, i.e. you flash a modded rom, 99.9% of the time the dev who created it will add the su(superuser) app into the rom so that you end up flashing the rom and re-rooting your phone in the process.
With that being said, if you happen to receive an OTA update randomly, telling you that android needs to update, and you decide that's what you want to run, flashing that one WILL take away your su privileges. That is due to the fact that these OTA's are pushed out by your phone manufacturer, and what you are trying to do (gain su access) isn't what the manufacturers wants you doing, per say, so THEY don't include the su app. Happy hacking. Number one tip I could give ya: don't b afraid to Google every question, or topic you're interested in. Make Google your best friend.
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Okay...
So I want to root as well as upgrade to ICS, how should I go about doing it?
I will go do a youtube and forum search now as well
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Each device has a different method of rooting and flashing ROMs..... you can check out your device's forum here on xda where I'm sure you'll find a suitable guide to help you out. Happy flashing
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The way I done it was to use the program SuperOneClick (there's a thread for that on here) then a few days later I got ParanoidAndroid flashed on to here (there's a thread for that aswell).
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what does exactly "rooting" means?? m new to android so don't knw lots of things.
does that mean hacking the phone??
what is the use or advantages of rooting??
and i heard that gingerbread's new version has come in the market. how should i update my current 2.3.3 version with 2.3.4??
shantanuparadkar said:
what does exactly "rooting" means?? m new to android so don't knw lots of things.
does that mean hacking the phone??
what is the use or advantages of rooting??
and i heard that gingerbread's new version has come in the market. how should i update my current 2.3.3 version with 2.3.4??
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(1) Looks like you didn't bother watching that registration video. ( SEE #2 )
(2) Please use the search functions of this forum and possibly of Google as this question "What is rooting, whats it mean....etc..." has already been answered.
(3) Please note that 2.3.3 is currently the only official release for the S2 at this time all other versions are simply leaked or test versions.
(4) I am also new to this and the best way to learn is to search previously answered questions.
(5) Cant stress this one enough. Any modifications to your phone will VOID THE WARRANTY depending is the stock files are available and if you got the jig you may be able to restore it to stock but this is no guarantee so be forewarned!
shantanuparadkar said:
what does exactly "rooting" means?? m new to android so don't knw lots of things.
does that mean hacking the phone??
what is the use or advantages of rooting??
and i heard that gingerbread's new version has come in the market. how should i update my current 2.3.3 version with 2.3.4??
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Use google and read up on rooting. Understand what it means and then come back, root the damn thing and become a flash addict.
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kirdroid said:
Use google and read up on rooting. Understand what it means and then come back, root the damn thing and become a flash addict.
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Lol yeah I'm noticing that with myself, initially I rooted it to unlock it from the sim lock...lil now i'm reading up on roms.
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Go0gle is your friend,
Yup,m doing that only
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1125282
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065995
jje
I want Gingerbread. I have a company phone and need to keep it fairly stock. I like and currently have root access. Everything I have been reading has been about Root + Unlock. I just want to update and root. Any advice?
Just flash the stock Gingerbread then re-root. There are all kinds of rooting guides available.
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Found this motorola-atrix-4g-root starting the update process now. Wish me luck.
Re-root in GB ???
DJHile said:
Just flash the stock Gingerbread then re-root. There are all kinds of rooting guides available.
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I have a Desire-Z and it had GB, but the forums I followed insisted that I must downgrade it to Frodo before rooting, as there is currently no way to root it in GB. So that is what I have done and I have root. Like you I want to go to GB but keeping root. I'm pretty sure there is a way, but I dont yet know how. That method is what I too am looking for. So there would need to be a way to preserve the root you've got while upgrading to GB. If upgrading causes you to lose root in GB, you wont be able to get it back without downgrading again unless someone comes up with a method that works for GB. If you find a way before me, let me know. Cheers.
kent c said:
Found this motorola-atrix-4g-root starting the update process now. Wish me luck.
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The method at briefmobile has always worked for me. However, you might also want to look at swiftks' "[Updated 2-11-2012] THE BEGINNERS (N00B) GUIDE!!! N00BS LOOK HERE FOR YOUR HOW TOs" that should be pinned at the top of this forum. There is a section in it called "HOW TO ROOT YOUR DEVICE ON ANDROID 2.3.4:".
canopic, root methods vary from phone to phone. It is quite possible to root the Atrix on gingerbread. I don't know anything about the Desire-Z though.
Hello,
Have done some searches and I just wanted to see if this is right as my Note was rooted with Gingerbread 2.3 and I stupidly upgraded with Kies to the official AT&T ICS software and lost my root. I have just a few questions.
Would the only way to get a rooted stock ICS rom on the phone (such as those available in the forum) be to downgrade to Gingerbread and root (which I have done before) then install one of the custom "stock" roms to have ICS but have root access? Or am I completely out of luck on rooting a stock ICS Note?
If so, could someone direct me to the thread with downgrading to gingerbread, as a search has not helped me to find instructions for doing so, and with all of the information on this site, I believe it has to be there and that I a just missing it?
Feel free to delete my post if I am completely lost and have posted erroneously in the wrong forum or anything to that effect.
myke nytemare said:
Hello,
Have done some searches and I just wanted to see if this is right as my Note was rooted with Gingerbread 2.3 and I stupidly upgraded with Kies to the official AT&T ICS software and lost my root. I have just a few questions.
Would the only way to get a rooted stock ICS rom on the phone (such as those available in the forum) be to downgrade to Gingerbread and root (which I have done before) then install one of the custom "stock" roms to have ICS but have root access? Or am I completely out of luck on rooting a stock ICS Note?
If so, could someone direct me to the thread with downgrading to gingerbread, as a search has not helped me to find instructions for doing so, and with all of the information on this site, I believe it has to be there and that I a just missing it?
Feel free to delete my post if I am completely lost and have posted erroneously in the wrong forum or anything to that effect.
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Root with odin like you would on gb but on ICS. Just try the cm9 roms though, it will change your life
You do not need to downgrade to GB to root. What you need to do is boot the phone into download mode, and use Odin to flash a custom recovery (such as CWM). Once you have the custom recovery flashed, you can boot into recovery mode and flash the Superuser or Supersu zip file to give you root. Using this method is the most foolproof way.
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and, you would get better answers if you would post a question in the Q&A thread, not in general...
Look in the custom rom section of this loser's thread...he is such a loser...make sure you flame the hell out of him, but here is his link....
go the custom rom section...you will the awesome ics offical already root...and debloated, and one thread has the pure virgin stock ics ....blah blah blah....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1740367
myke nytemare said:
Hello,
Have done some searches and I just wanted to see if this is right as my Note was rooted with Gingerbread 2.3 and I stupidly upgraded with Kies to the official AT&T ICS software and lost my root. I have just a few questions.
Would the only way to get a rooted stock ICS rom on the phone (such as those available in the forum) be to downgrade to Gingerbread and root (which I have done before) then install one of the custom "stock" roms to have ICS but have root access? Or am I completely out of luck on rooting a stock ICS Note?
If so, could someone direct me to the thread with downgrading to gingerbread, as a search has not helped me to find instructions for doing so, and with all of the information on this site, I believe it has to be there and that I a just missing it?
Feel free to delete my post if I am completely lost and have posted erroneously in the wrong forum or anything to that effect.
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i can't stand bigjoe. he is such a tool.
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Why, because he shamelessly promotes his own rom with every chance he gets? Ya that sounds about right.
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Me tooo...
xshaftx said:
i can't stand bigjoe. he is such a tool.
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jpoirier587 said:
Why, because he shamelessly promotes his own rom with every chance he gets? Ya that sounds about right.
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Think he was kidding...I think...LOL, and I try to promote all...hence the GNote Community thread, with all tools and ROMs and extras...(btw I dont have a ROM, but I do have DD...daily driver for a ROM)
[REF&Road Map]{G-NSET}: Galaxy Note Super Everything Thread (I717)
I will also be features Chef Ramsey dishes and the how to's....
of coarse i was kidding. stupid text and there lack of sounding sarcastic
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xshaftx said:
of coarse i was kidding. stupid text and there lack of sounding sarcastic
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good to go...no worries...
LOL
I used a guide I found on this forum a while ago to jailbreak my GSIII, and now the phone is asking me to update it (to Jelly Bean). Do I allow it to do that considering my phone is jailbroken, or would I need to wait for a jailbroken version of Jellybean to hit these forums and then update it that way?
which method did you use to root your phone?
SurferJon said:
... jailbreak my GSIII
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Jailbreaking is an iOS/iPhone term and it is quite different from rooting. Not trying to be facetious, just knowing that will help you find answers in the future.
SurferJon said:
I used a guide I found on this forum a while ago to jailbreak my GSIII, and now the phone is asking me to update it (to Jelly Bean). Do I allow it to do that considering my phone is jailbroken, or would I need to wait for a jailbroken version of Jellybean to hit these forums and then update it that way?
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One OTA may fail during install due to root .
Remove root or update via KIES .
jailbroken version of Jellybean to hit these forums and then update it that way
All versions can be rooted non are jailbroken at source .
jje
SurferJon said:
I used a guide I found on this forum a while ago to jailbreak my GSIII, and now the phone is asking me to update it (to Jelly Bean). Do I allow it to do that considering my phone is jailbroken, or would I need to wait for a jailbroken version of Jellybean to hit these forums and then update it that way?
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Just let it update and root it again if needed.
Funny when I read the "Jailbreak" word LOL
anyways, you can just download any LEAKED or the Official one of JB and flash it.
I thought you want to upgrade iphone to Jellybean
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Arsaw said:
I thought you want to upgrade iphone to Jellybean
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lol. like this..
LOL, whoops. I go to a film school where everything is Macintosh and iPhones (I'm the oddball there), so I guess I picked up on their nomenclature.
If I remove the root and go back to factory, will that erase my data? If not, do I do that first, then download a rooted version of JB from here? And if so where would I find it? Search brings up tons of threads and I don't know what to go with. ^_^;;
SurferJon said:
LOL, whoops. I go to a film school where everything is Macintosh and iPhones (I'm the oddball there), so I guess I picked up on their nomenclature.
If I remove the root and go back to factory, will that erase my data? If not, do I do that first, then download a rooted version of JB from here? And if so where would I find it? Search brings up tons of threads and I don't know what to go with. ^_^;;
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Pre rooted is only Custom roms .
Norm is flash stock rom via Odin and root via .
ROOT
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1684535
jje
JJEgan said:
Pre rooted is only Custom roms .
Norm is flash stock rom via Odin and root via .
ROOT
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1684535
jje
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Sorry, I'm really confused with all this terminology... I'm very new to all of this since the GS3 is my first smartphone. When I first got my phone, I searched for how to root it and installed a rooted version of the OS that was stripped of some of the bloatware apps. I used the instructions in this thread, though I'm not sure what I installed and what I used (though Odin sounds familiar to me... maybe I used that). Basically I don't understand what I'm using on my phone right now and what I'm supposed to do to get the newer version of the OS that is also rooted.
EDIT: BTW, my phone model is SCH-I535 running Android version 4.0.4.
SurferJon said:
Sorry, I'm really confused with all this terminology... I'm very new to all of this since the GS3 is my first smartphone. When I first got my phone, I searched for how to root it and installed a rooted version of the OS that was stripped of some of the bloatware apps. I used the instructions in this thread, though I'm not sure what I installed and what I used (though Odin sounds familiar to me... maybe I used that). Basically I don't understand what I'm using on my phone right now and what I'm supposed to do to get the newer version of the OS that is also rooted.
EDIT: BTW, my phone model is SCH-I535 running Android version 4.0.4.
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You are in the wrong forum, this is for the I9300, not the I535. I think that is the Verizon model. Try going to the forum for Verizon SIII, might get more specific advice on your phone and what to do.
Hey all, before I had a Motorola Defy, now I am with an Atrix 4g
My basic question is, what should not do to brick my phone? should I update it? Like I said, I came from a Defy, Defy has a locked bootloader so it is almost impossible to brick it, now I am a little scared with the Atrix hehe. Thanks !
Feche said:
Hey all, before I had a Motorola Defy, now I am with an Atrix 4g
My basic question is, what should not do to brick my phone? should I update it? Like I said, I came from a Defy, Defy has a locked bootloader so it is almost impossible to brick it, now I am a little scared with the Atrix hehe. Thanks !
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you shoudn't flash an sbf file that is not the same as your current version. to update or not to update, that is entirely up to you. if yoh're satisfied with a gb os (2.3.x), don't upgrade. if you want ics (4.0 4) or jb (4.1.x-4.2.2), then update. just unlock the bootloader, root your phone, and enjoy
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palmbeach05 said:
you shoudn't flash an sbf file that is not the same as your current version. to update or not to update, that is entirely up to you. if yoh're satisfied with a gb os (2.3.x), don't upgrade. if you want ics (4.0 4) or jb (4.1.x-4.2.2), then update. just unlock the bootloader, root your phone, and enjoy
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Should I use the updater that is under About phone -> Updates?
Feche said:
Should I use the updater that is under About phone -> Updates?
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you could if you wanted, but most of the updated versions are available through the rom superthread thread in the development section. just be sure to pay attention to carrier specific roms if you chose to use one of them. and i did just see your post in another thread saying that you were on froyo. after seeing that, i would say yes, upgrade your phone to a better os. gb works great, ics and jb work well and will work better now that we have the new kernel, but expect bugs to be present, but they are still very usable roms
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palmbeach05 said:
you could if you wanted, but most of the updated versions are available through the rom superthread thread in the development section. just be sure to pay attention to carrier specific roms if you chose to use one of them. and i did just see your post in another thread saying that you were on froyo. after seeing that, i would say yes, upgrade your phone to a better os. gb works great, ics and jb work well and will work better now that we have the new kernel, but expect bugs to be present, but they are still very usable roms
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Yep, I am currently on Froyo 2.1, it has some lags on lockscreen.
By the way, my phone is unlocked, what rom should I pick up? do you recommend using About phone -> Updates to update it? thanks hehe :good:
How about you do some reading on your own? It's not like the information is not out there. It's all here, in great detail. You just need to read it.
Can you imagine the chaos if every new member decided to skip all the reading and just opened a new thread?
ravilov said:
How about you do some reading on your own? It's not like the information is not out there. It's all here, in great detail. You just need to read it.
Can you imagine the chaos if every new member decided to skip all the reading and just opened a new thread?
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I am sorry, but I did read, it's just not clear..