Rooting S III without flashing to insecure kernel - Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Ive been trying to follow this guide to root my ICS GT-I9300 without voiding my warranty but I cant install CWM from the bootloader. I tried downloading CWM.zip from the first link there, but it says that there's a problem with the signing of the file. I assume that file is for the S II which is why its not working.
When i go to http://clockworkmod.com/rommanager to download the version of CWM specific to the GT-I9300, it gives me links to .img files in the 'download recovery' and 'download touch recovery' columns or if i click on the 'download ROMs' link and go to the CWM link there's no file to download.
When i boot to recovery the recovery-clockworkmod.img file doesnt show up on my SD card and the SU-Busybox-Installer.zip wont install without CWM.
Does anyone have a link to a working copy of CWM for the GT-I9300 that doesnt need Odin to install or any advice on how to install CWM from one of those image files without ruining my warranty?
Cheers!

pakage said:
Ive been trying to follow this guide to root my ICS GT-I9300 without voiding my warranty but I cant install CWM from the bootloader. I tried downloading CWM.zip from the first link there, but it says that there's a problem with the signing of the file. I assume that file is for the S II which is why its not working.
When i go to http://clockworkmod.com/rommanager to download the version of CWM specific to the GT-I9300, it gives me links to .img files in the 'download recovery' and 'download touch recovery' columns or if i click on the 'download ROMs' link and go to the CWM link there's no file to download.
When i boot to recovery the recovery-clockworkmod.img file doesnt show up on my SD card and the SU-Busybox-Installer.zip wont install without CWM.
Does anyone have a link to a working copy of CWM for the GT-I9300 that doesnt need Odin to install or any advice on how to install CWM from one of those image files without ruining my warranty?
Cheers!
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flash cf root with odin. download triangle away to remove binary count. warranty still intact.

Ive been trying to follow this guide to root my ICS GT-I9300 without voiding my warranty
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I wonder if the guide not working could have something to do with it being for the Galaxy S2 and not the S3?
On a serious note; nope, not possible. The recovery checks if the file has been signed by Samsung and unless you or someone else gains access to their secret keys to sign the file, this will never be possible.
However on a stock ROM you cannot get of the 'Device: modified' in Settings->About phone if you're only rooted, so it's pretty easy to find it out anyway.

d4fseeker said:
I wonder if the guide not working could have something to do with it being for the Galaxy S2 and not the S3?
On a serious note; nope, not possible. The recovery checks if the file has been signed by Samsung and unless you or someone else gains access to their secret keys to sign the file, this will never be possible.
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Would it be correct to infer that the method the OP linked to should work for only the subset of devices which have CWM zip files listed at clockworkmod.com/rommanager? (as well as stock ICS ROMs obviously)

aperception said:
Would it be correct to infer that the method the OP linked to should work for only the subset of devices which have CWM zip files listed at clockworkmod.com/rommanager? (as well as stock ICS ROMs obviously)
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No, it works but for now, flashing cwm on the s3 increases counter. After root, use triangle away and you can flash your stock kernel/recovery to reset modified status. Will update the guide when back to home in 10 days
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You can also use this method here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=756
to get cwm in odin
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Phil3759 said:
No, it works but for now, flashing cwm on the s3 increases counter. After root, use triangle away and you can flash your stock kernel/recovery to reset modified status. Will update the guide when back to home in 10 days
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Sorry, let me reword my question:
Other than Galaxy S2 and Galaxy Note, are there any devices which Rachmat3's root method will work for?
P.S. In your guide (which is great by the way!), you wrote "will probably work on any ICS phone, if you have a CWM image". I think you should
clarify this to maybe say something like "will probably work on any ICS phone, if you have a signed CWM image (which currently includes *** devices)"

Older Galaxy phones too. But they don't have a flash counter anyway

d4fseeker said:
Older Galaxy phones too. But they don't have a flash counter anyway
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They're also unlikely to ever receive an official ICS update right? Which would defeat the purpose of a secure kernel root. :laugh:
I guess it could work with the Motorola Droid Bionic if/when that gets updated...? That was the only phone on this list with a CWM zip file anyway.

aperception said:
Sorry, let me reword my question:
Other than Galaxy S2 and Galaxy Note, are there any devices which Rachmat3's root method will work for?
P.S. In your guide (which is great by the way!), you wrote "will probably work on any ICS phone, if you have a CWM image". I think you should
clarify this to maybe say something like "will probably work on any ICS phone, if you have a signed CWM image (which currently includes *** devices)"
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No need to a signed cwm, just cwm. You will never see a signed flashable zip in stock recovery as only Samsung has the cryp key. Forget it. Keep in mind that for business use, being able to flash cwm is a big security issue. That's why they lock it. The method should work for phones with a cwm image in clockworkmod page. But, yes, not all phones will make it with a temporary cwm. I will state it clearly when back in a week
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Phil3759 said:
No need to a signed cwm, just cwm. You will never see a signed flashable zip in stock recovery as only Samsung has the cryp key. Forget it. Keep in mind that for business use, being able to flash cwm is a big security issue. That's why they lock it. The method should work for phones with a cwm image in clockworkmod page. But, yes, not all phones will make it with a temporary cwm. I will state it clearly when back in a week
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AFAIK a signed version of CWM is available for Galaxy S2, and that's why Rachmat3's method works. If the method worked whenever CWM was available then it should also work for Galaxy 3 (without using ODIN) which it clearly doesn't.

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[Q] Galaxy S Issues

Hi guys this is my first post if i post something that has been already talked to the death my apologies.
I recently bought a Samsung galaxy S with the 2.2 froyo update build number hvjp4 ive tried using the one click root but when i get to the recovery screen and click the "update.zip" file it say error signature verification.
what am i doing wrong can someone lead me in the right direction thank you.
GS issues
Did you install the drivers for the GS?
What recovery version do you have? you can see it at the top when in recovery mode. (3e) wont let you do it. your best off getting odin and flashing a new kernel.
this is what i done, works %100
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788108
etsme said:
What recovery version do you have? you can see it at the top when in recovery mode. (3e) wont let you do it. your best off getting odin and flashing a new kernel.
this is what i done, works %100
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788108
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i did see this thread but i dont know which file to download in fear of bricking my sgs
You need to put the phone in Debug mode then run shell root and then root. I had a similar issue and thats how I was able to get it to work
What method are you trying to use to get root?
I went with SuperOneClick to root, Rom Manager from Market to flash Clockwork recovery, Nandroid backup, and then Custom ROM.

[ROOT/UNROOT/Custom Recoveries/Kernels/Roms] AT&T Galaxy Note ONLY!/ No Flash Counter

[ROOT/UNROOT/Custom Recoveries/Kernels/Roms] AT&T Galaxy Note ONLY!/ No Flash Counter
THIS IS A GINGERBREAD ROOTING METHOD, FOR WHEN YOU FIRST GET THE PHONE OUT OF THE BOX, THIS WILL NOT WORK WITH NEW OFFICIAL ICS.
This method is for people that have a AT&TGalaxy Note only and want to have root in the stock rom without tripping the flash counter only, For everything else look at the bottom of the first post!!
If you want root to flash a custom rom/kernel/CWM and you don't care about the flash counter and the warranty then this is not for you.
Go here for other root! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1504218
Now I went ahead and put the files together in one zip to make it simpler, it contains the root zip, the odin and the samsung usb drivers, all the files needed in one download .
DOWNLOAD: Big File: 532mb in size
http://goo.gl/aq2Wl
After the download follow this steps made by capite.
Extract Odin but don't launch it, run the samsung drivers for your phone on the PC and install it. Then plug in your phone to make sure it works -- it seems to take a while to get everything working. If you get an error, try rebooting and try again. Also, try using the cable that came with your phone -- 3d party cables don't always seem to work. If it still doesn't work, try another USB port.
1. Turn off your phone and uplug it. Take the battery out of your phone, put it back in, and hold the volume down button and power button at the same time. Keep them held down until the phone starts buzzing and you see the Samsung name.
2. At this point you are either in download mode or the phone will tell you to hit volume up, at which point you'll be ready.
3. Run Odin on your PC -- right click and choose "Run as Administrator" just to be safe.
4. Plug your phone into your PC.
5. In the Odin screen, wait until one of the top boxes turns yellow and displays some numbers.
6. UNCHECK all the boxes except for Auto Reboot.
7. Hit the PDA button and navigate to mashi's file that you unzipped.
8. Hit start
9. wait until your phone reboots.
10. If it didn't work, try rebooting and starting from scratch.
11. verify super user app now present. Update super user app (optional).
If you want to go back to unrooted, download this .tar file and flash thru odin! http://goo.gl/BBdow
Thanks to Da_G !
Flashing back to stock thru odin by using the stock tar in case of brick will increase the flash counter.
Enjoy and hit the thanks button if it helps you.
UPDATE: Custom Recoveries/Kernels/Roms without tripping the flash counter go here.! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23229071&postcount=57
UPDATE 2: Unrooting guide for AT&T go here.! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23499670&postcount=133
Since this is a System root, will it replace my Rogers ROM with AT&T ROM? I understand Rogers ROM has more features that are disabled on AT&T (NFC, Tethering, some apps).
zaptor99 said:
Since this is a System root, will it replace my Rogers ROM with AT&T ROM? I understand Rogers ROM has more features that are disabled on AT&T (NFC, Tethering, some apps).
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This will change the Rom and give issues to any other Rom besides stock AT&T rom when making root permissions.
Sorry but I edited this post to inform the people that only scroll thru the first page only!
i used Da_G root
roloracer said:
So I'm making this thread because the one made by mashi has a dead link and it says it will increase the flash counter when it doesn't.
So thanks to mashi and thanks to capite for his instructions, I'm just doing a clean thread to avoid the multiple question threads in the Q&A about anybody having root without the flash counter going up.
anyone that finds this steps by capite helpful , please hit his thanks button.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22920576&postcount=87
If the moderators find this thread unecessary you can delete it, just trying to help keep things organized.
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to root my note, can you tell me if i use this if this will reverse the Counter.
zozodouce said:
to root my note, can you tell me if i use this if this will reverse the Counter.
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no nothing will reverse your counter yet, this will not increase it, sorry.
roloracer said:
not to my knowledge, this shouldn't change anything but the root permissions, I didn't have to do anything after, not even a factory reset. this has the system.img.ext4 in it, I'm sorry but I don't know if it would change anything in your rom besides root permissions, I didn't create this file, just helping to provide it. .
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i believe this method replaces the entire system partition so he will lose stuff like nfc. once cwm is working fully I'm sure someone will create a flashable zip that just adds root without replacing the whole partition.
EvoXOhio said:
i believe this method replaces the entire system partition so he will lose stuff like nfc. once cwm is working fully I'm sure someone will create a flashable zip that just adds root without replacing the whole partition.
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Not sure how it's done, but the entire stock rom including nfc service 2.3.6 is still intact. There is nothing missing or unusable from the original LA1 rom. Also since there is no hard reset, user data isn't affected. Again, we need mashi or someone far smarter than me to tell us exactly how this works. All I know is that it does.
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so I guess if you want cwm to work, you'll have to use Da_G's Kernel Root?
ukic said:
so I guess if you want cwm to work, you'll have to use Da_G's Kernel Root?
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Why, you flash cwm thru Odin and cwm increases the flash counter so this method would be pointless if you're not worried about your flash counter, if you don't care about the flash counter then use DA_G method of rooting/overclock kernel, this method is just for the people that are concern about the flash counter and want to get root.
Sent from my awesome Galaxy Note!
Oh, cwm itself increases it....
ukic said:
Oh, cwm itself increases it....
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Yes you're replacing the stock recovery with a custom recovery, even when is available thru Rom manager as an official version of cwm, is still considered a custom recovery. Even the stock modified replacement recovery in here it will come up as custom when you flash it and will trip the flash counter if Im correct.
Sent from my awesome Galaxy Note!
I assume this is doable via heimdall, correct? It looks like it's just a system image, which can be flashed with Heimdall.
Edit: Heimdall doesn't work on the Galaxy Note. Sad day.
When I follow the directions to root my device my entire computer freezes once I press start. This is happening when I try to root using Da_G's method or the method from this thread. All the help I can get would be greatly appreciated. Thank you
jasonblaine23 said:
When I follow the directions to root my device my entire computer freezes once I press start. This is happening when I try to root using Da_G's method or the method from this thread. All the help I can get would be greatly appreciated. Thank you
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there must be something wrong with your pc, you're the first person that I hear is having issues with odin, make sure the drivers are properly working.
I may wait a bit before I root but if I was to use this method I or we wont have any issues flashing roms once they come available right?
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nash2000 said:
I may wait a bit before I root but if I was to use this method I or we wont have any issues flashing roms once they come available right?
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No, this is a system root to be able to have root on the stock rom and avoid tripping the flash counter, if you flash a rom I'm pretty sure you will loose this root, but if you are planning on flashing a rom and the counter is not a concern then you need the perm-root in DA_G thread.
Sent from my awesome Galaxy Note!
roloracer said:
No, this is a system root to be able to have root on the stock rom and avoid tripping the flash counter, if you flash a rom I'm pretty sure you will loose this root, but if you are planning on flashing a rom and the counter is not a concern then you need the perm-root in DA_G thread.
Sent from my awesome Galaxy Note!
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Oh, I thought this method would allow root and flashing of roms without tripping the counter. So there is no fix for the counter? I've read posts off people asking how to remove trips etc. So in a nut shell if you are planning on flashing roms at this time there is no fix for the counter so use the other root method?
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nash2000 said:
Oh, I thought this method would allow root and flashing of roms without tripping the counter. So there is no fix for the counter? I've read posts off people asking how to remove trips etc. So in a nut shell if you are planning on flashing roms at this time there is no fix for the counter so use the other root method?
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no only this root won't, once you go flashing custom roms/kernels/recoveries it will trip the counter as of now, hopefully soon there will be a way to fix this.
roloracer said:
no only this root won't, once you go flashing custom roms/kernels/recoveries it will trip the counter as of now, hopefully soon there will be a way to fix this.
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can u help me with my situation i am trying to flash this in oden but it just hangs there is this because of my flashing the cwm recovery , i thought that it might be so i tried to reflash the stock recovery and now that just hangs , everything shows as connected in device manager on this pc which is a clean xp ...also it boots up fine
Worked like a charm on the first go around.
Thanks rolo! +1

[Q] Confused, Recovery Help

Well first of all i have a tmobile galaxy s3. It is rooted and has a recovery installed from zedomax's tutorial. However the recovery that i have does not support external sd card. I've been searching the fourms and im just confused on which one i need to install and how to do it. I know that there is a recovery updated to support ext sd card and I think it is this one: http://www.epiccm.org/2012/06/cwm-recovery-on-all-sgs3-lte-variants.html
However i dont know how to go on installing it as im already rooted and already have a recovery installed. Near the bottom of the page theres a method to upgrade using cwm but it says only for sprint phones and i dont want to get a brick.
Could anyone please tell me what i have to do to upgrade my current recover?
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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Also from reading the fourms i take it there is no recovery supported by rom manager yet, correct? I also read about a tool kit that serves as an alternative but im confused on all what it does and if i would be able to upgrade my current recovery through it.
circuit.007 said:
Well first of all i have a tmobile galaxy s3. It is rooted and has a recovery installed from zedomax's tutorial. However the recovery that i have does not support external sd card. I've been searching the fourms and im just confused on which one i need to install and how to do it. I know that there is a recovery updated to support ext sd card and I think it is this one: http://www.epiccm.org/2012/06/cwm-recovery-on-all-sgs3-lte-variants.html
However i dont know how to go on installing it as im already rooted and already have a recovery installed. Near the bottom of the page theres a method to upgrade using cwm but it says only for sprint phones and i dont want to get a brick.
Could anyone please tell me what i have to do to upgrade my current recover?
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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Also from reading the fourms i take it there is no recovery supported by rom manager yet, correct? I also read about a tool kit that serves as an alternative but im confused on all what it does and if i would be able to upgrade my current recovery through it.
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Download the CWM-Recovery-LTE-SGS3-v4.tar.md5 and Odin v3.04 files and flash that way..just be aware that ur flash count will go up
Okay i only see the CWM-Recovery-LTE-SGS3-v4.tar.md5 file. I dont see the odin v3.04 file. So once i get the files i would just flash the file by the pda button in odin?
And just to confirm again i cant flash via this method: "Use this method if you already have a previous version of CWM and would like to upgrade. This is a CWM Recovery flashable zip, currently only supported for Sprint SGS3 devices."
As for the flash counter i bought my phone off contract so theres really no reason for me to worry about it as i cant go return or get help from tmobile warranty right?
circuit.007 said:
Okay i only see the CWM-Recovery-LTE-SGS3-v4.tar.md5 file. I dont see the odin v3.04 file. So once i get the files i would just flash the file by the pda button in odin?
And just to confirm again i cant flash via this method: "Use this method if you already have a previous version of CWM and would like to upgrade. This is a CWM Recovery flashable zip, currently only supported for Sprint SGS3 devices."
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here is link to odin from there post http://k0nane.info/rom/ecm/Odin3-v3.04.zip
And it worked for me and others on ATT and also others on Tmobile
Yes just put in PDA
here is good info so if u get nervous on odin(how to)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27670216&postcount=2

Help me root and cm10.1 without kies

I'm trying to root and put CM10.1 on my device, but the methods I see involve having ICS or Kies. Kies is not working on my computer, it doesnt launch for some reason. How can I either update to ICS or root 2.3.6 which is on the device now with out it? What's the best way to get CM10.1, please help! All the methods are kind of old...
The methods are old much like the version you are on.
Why would installing a custom ROM need kies? It doesn't. You need Odin or heimdall to flash custom kernel with recovery and then you can flash whatever ROM you want.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
What Pirateghost said. Just flash CWM (clockworkmod recovery) through Odin (google or xda search it). From there the rest will be piece of cake.
Or you could just download "drama root". It's an apk file that you install on your phone, run it, and it riots it within a few seconds and installs Super User. It's quick and easy. Next all you need to do is install a custom recovery via Mobile Odin. You didn't even need to touch a PC to root your phone.
leo9891 said:
..."drama root"...
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I think you must mean "Framaroot"
Next all you need to do is install a custom recovery kernel containing a custom recovery via Mobile Odin.
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creepyncrawly said:
I think you must mean "Framaroot"
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Yeah it was auto correct LOL. I was in a rush also and didn't realize it corrected to "drama"

[Q] Have root, can't boot into Clockworkmod Recovery, unsure how to install new ROM

Phone model: Verizon SCH-I545
Build JDQ39.I545VRUDMI1
Have already obtained root via this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2487142
Here is the problem: I am using CWM to attempt to reboot into CWM Recovery but the phone will only boot into normal recovery.
1) Is there a way to fix/get around this problem? (I assume that once I install a new Rom this problem will no longer occur)
2) Odin seems to be an option to install a new ROM without CWM recovery, however 100% of the ROMs I want to install are ZIP, not TAR as Odin requires. (I am unsure I should unzip and tar a ROM and expect that to work in Odin?)
Thanks for your help!
You'll have to use Safestrap, it's the only way for your build.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2441441&styleid=18
Disappointing
Sir_Eagle said:
You'll have to use Safestrap, it's the only way for your build.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2441441&styleid=18
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Thanks! This saves me time.
So you are saying Odin is not an option? The only way to Flash a new ROM for my build is with Safestrap. Its very hard to tell by the thread if its safe to use, or even a real way to truly install a new ROM. By that I mean, I can't tell if Safestrap's method of installing a new ROM doesn't in fact replace the existing ROM, it just installs an alternate ROM to the side of the regular ROM?
This is disappointing enough that I may sell my S4 and stick with my Galaxy Nexus
ktamlyn said:
Thanks! This saves me time.
So you are saying Odin is not an option? The only way to Flash a new ROM for my build is with Safestrap. Its very hard to tell by the thread if its safe to use, or even a real way to truly install a new ROM. By that I mean, I can't tell if Safestrap's method of installing a new ROM doesn't in fact replace the existing ROM, it just installs an alternate ROM to the side of the regular ROM?
This is disappointing enough that I may sell my S4 and stick with my Galaxy Nexus
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Odin is not an option for installing custom ROMs. Since the bootloader is locked, the only things you can flash on your device using Odin are factory stock files. No custom recovery, no AOSP or CWM at the moment - only what's compatible with Safestrap.
Yes, it's safe. SS installs the new ROM in free space in your phone's internal storage, leaving the stock ROM intact for recovery. This should have been quite clear if you read the Safestrap description.
k1mu said:
Odin is not an option for installing custom ROMs. Since the bootloader is locked, the only things you can flash on your device using Odin are factory stock files. No custom recovery, no AOSP or CWM at the moment - only what's compatible with Safestrap.
Yes, it's safe. SS installs the new ROM in free space in your phone's internal storage, leaving the stock ROM intact for recovery. This should have been quite clear if you read the Safestrap description.
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I continued reading and accept reality now - I think I was in denial! My mistake of letting the phone update is seriously frustrating. My hope was to have the Google Edition ROM installed, but SS doesn't allow this currently.
Sorry to hear that... if you want custom software you need to read before you buy, assumptions are a mofo.
i'm guessing we can't simply use odin and flash to a different software build
endleesss said:
i'm guessing we can't simply use odin and flash to a different software build
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That is correct. Once you take the plunge, you can never go back unless you or someone you know has Jtag experience.
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itsdubai said:
That is correct. Once you take the plunge, you can never go back unless you or someone you know has Jtag experience.
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I've only seen one person say they successfully used JTAG to downgrade firmware, granted he's a reputable developer, but even if you ask JTAG they'll tell you they can't get our model to downgrade.
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