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Right now I'm running the stock Sprint ROM. All I really want to change (man I'm getting boring in my old age!) is the TouchFlo version. I reallllly want the calendar tab on the main screen.
Do I have to flash my entire ROM to get that or can you just upgrade/install over the old TouchFlo? I search the forums here with a variety of key words but everything I found pointed back to ROMs of some sort.
Thanks for the help guys!
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Right now I'm running the stock Sprint ROM. All I really want to change (man I'm getting boring in my old age!) is the TouchFlo version. I reallllly want the calendar tab on the main screen.
Do I have to flash my entire ROM to get that or can you just upgrade/install over the old TouchFlo? I search the forums here with a variety of key words but everything I found pointed back to ROMs of some sort.
Thanks for the help guys!
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You can probably upgrade to a later version of TF3D, but truth be told... it would me much simpler to flash since there is a slew of things that need to be done to get the extra tabs and such. Besides, flashing to something like the NRG roms will boost your TP's performance... a lot!
Do you have any suggestions?
I actually just gave my Touch Pro to my wife... so while *I* have a huge tolerance after years and years of flashing ROMs and tweaking phones for the hiccups that come with such matters, I don't want to put her in a position of having to trouble shoot her phone without me or it crashing on her.
She's all about juicing up her phone with a new ROM but I don't want it to be horrible experience for her.
I was looking, earlier today, at NFSFAN's rom. It seems to be very well received although it looked like people were having trouble with the push-based syncing (which would be a deal breaker since her phone syncs to Google)
jfitzpatrick said:
Do you have any suggestions?
I actually just gave my Touch Pro to my wife... so while *I* have a huge tolerance after years and years of flashing ROMs and tweaking phones for the hiccups that come with such matters, I don't want to put her in a position of having to trouble shoot her phone without me or it crashing on her.
She's all about juicing up her phone with a new ROM but I don't want it to be horrible experience for her.
I was looking, earlier today, at NFSFAN's rom. It seems to be very well received although it looked like people were having trouble with the push-based syncing (which would be a deal breaker since her phone syncs to Google)
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NFS is usually good... I would try that as well as NRG, Mighty, Vevitto, and probably Juicy. Hope that helps...
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You can probably upgrade to a later version of TF3D, but truth be told... it would me much simpler to flash since there is a slew of things that need to be done to get the extra tabs and such. Besides, flashing to something like the NRG roms will boost your TP's performance... a lot!
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How to upgrade it? ive installed the Stock ROM on my TP(GSM) from site sunnysoft.com/htc/ and its kinda flawless and very very fast. I dont wanna change the ROM but i could use the calendar tab from sense 2.1 cos i find it very handy.. is there a way to add it to my tf3d ?
I tried to install sense 2.1 from cabs on this ROM but had the problem updating weather so i dropped it, besides that the ROM wasnt working so smoothly anymore.
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How to upgrade it? ive installed the Stock ROM on my TP(GSM) from site sunnysoft.com/htc/ and its kinda flawless and very very fast. I dont wanna change the ROM but i could use the calendar tab from sense 2.1 cos i find it very handy.. is there a way to add it to my tf3d ?
I tried to install sense 2.1 from cabs on this ROM but had the problem updating weather so i dropped it, besides that the ROM wasnt working so smoothly anymore.
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Stuff for Sense/TF3D tend to write and drop a bunch of files under the Windows directory, which (under most cases) will slow down your device. So, getting it pre-cooked is always better as it is cleaner than the installation.
I have some questions that might sound stupid, but I just rooted my first 2 phones over the last 2 days, so I'm definitely new at this and still don't know a lot about this.
I have a defective Thunderbolt (VERY frequent reboots caused by the May OTA update) that I got Verizon to replace with a Droid Charge. I rooted the Thunderbolt because I wanted to be able to do things with my phone that the manufacturers prevent you from otherwise doing (such as changing the font, installing new ROMs, etc). I need to send the Thunderbolt back to Verizon, but I still have it and figured this would be a good time to experiment with rooting.
Anyway, what I want to know is if there's a way to pull the HTC dialer, calendar, contacts & e-mail apps off of the Thunderbolt and put them on the Charge (and, have them actually work!), as I really like those apps. As I said, my Thunderbolt is rooted, and I found things on it like Calendar.apk, HtcContacts.apk, and HtcDialer.apk, but there are also other files with similar or related names. My Charge is rooted also, with a non-stock kernel (imnuts' PeanutButta Jelly Time) and a non-stock ROM (GummyCHARGED 1.8.5).
So, if anyone knows how to do this and could explain to me how to go about it, I'd REALLY appreciate it!
Thanks,
Dennis
You can try pulling some of the system apks from the system/app folder like the calender. Dialer might be a little more complicated, think that's something integrated in he framework or with sense . Know there are a lot of other installable dialer and keyboards out there so sure its possible
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dmw_4814 said:
I have some questions that might sound stupid, but I just rooted my first 2 phones over the last 2 days, so I'm definitely new at this and still don't know a lot about this.
I have a defective Thunderbolt (VERY frequent reboots caused by the May OTA update) that I got Verizon to replace with a Droid Charge. I rooted the Thunderbolt because I wanted to be able to do things with my phone that the manufacturers prevent you from otherwise doing (such as changing the font, installing new ROMs, etc). I need to send the Thunderbolt back to Verizon, but I still have it and figured this would be a good time to experiment with rooting.
Anyway, what I want to know is if there's a way to pull the HTC dialer, calendar, contacts & e-mail apps off of the Thunderbolt and put them on the Charge (and, have them actually work!), as I really like those apps. As I said, my Thunderbolt is rooted, and I found things on it like Calendar.apk, HtcContacts.apk, and HtcDialer.apk, but there are also other files with similar or related names. My Charge is rooted also, with a non-stock kernel (imnuts' PeanutButta Jelly Time) and a non-stock ROM (GummyCHARGED 1.8.5).
So, if anyone knows how to do this and could explain to me how to go about it, I'd REALLY appreciate it!
Thanks,
Dennis
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You can try to use titanium backup on your Thunderbolt to backup all user apps, system data, and system apps. Remove the Micro SD card. Insert your Micro SD card into the Droid Charge, and use Titanium backup to move certain apps that you would like to use. However, keep in mind that the stock HTC apps, may not work properly on a Droid Charge. ie, keyboard, tethering, etc. Hope this helps.
system apps are going to need the htc framework to run.
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In fact any sense related programs will just force close with sense framework. And sense framework cannot be ported or moved. Sorry man. But look at the bright side, you have a brand new plastic phone with the worst UI the world has ever seen, but you did get swipe preinstalled. Nice.
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system apps are going to need the htc framework to run.
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madroix said:
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In fact any sense related programs will just force close with sense framework. And sense framework cannot be ported or moved. Sorry man. But look at the bright side, you have a brand new plastic phone with the worst UI the world has ever seen, but you did get swipe preinstalled. Nice.
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He could get lucky and someone will make a port of sense for samsung phones like they did for touchwiz and non samsung phones. Until then, I'd say he's stuck.
madroix said:
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In fact any sense related programs will just force close with sense framework. And sense framework cannot be ported or moved. Sorry man. But look at the bright side, you have a brand new plastic phone with the worst UI the world has ever seen, but you did get swipe preinstalled. Nice.
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No, maybe you should read my ENTIRE post before commenting! Actually I have a new plastic phone, but I do NOT have the worst UI the world has ever seen, since I rooted it and installed a custom ROM! GummyCHARGED 1.8.5 installs an interface that is the closest to a stock Android install that I've ever seen (Google branded phones excepted, as I've no experience with them). That Samsung TouchWiz interface is a MAJOR reason why I rooted the phone in the first place!
At least my new plastic phone doesn't reboot 8-10 times a day, including right in the middle of phone calls!
Dennis
dmw_4814 said:
No, maybe you should read my ENTIRE post before commenting! Actually I have a new plastic phone, but I do NOT have the worst UI the world has ever seen, since I rooted it and installed a custom ROM! GummyCHARGED 1.8.5 installs an interface that is the closest to a stock Android install that I've ever seen (Google branded phones excepted, as I've no experience with them). That Samsung TouchWiz interface is a MAJOR reason why I rooted the phone in the first place!
At least my new plastic phone doesn't reboot 8-10 times a day, including right in the middle of phone calls!
Dennis
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Here's an alternative, maybe post this in the Charge section of the forums, as I doubt very many people in the Thunderbolt section are fond of the Charge or would be able to help you mod it. Just saying.
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Mean Bro Greene said:
Here's an alternative, maybe post this in the Charge section of the forums, as I doubt very many people in the Thunderbolt section are fond of the Charge or would be able to help you mod it. Just saying.
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Yeah, I only posted this here because it involved pulling apps off of the Thunderbolt, and I figured Thunderbolt owners would know the most about doing things like that!
Dennis
dmw_4814 said:
No, maybe you should read my ENTIRE post before commenting! Actually I have a new plastic phone, but I do NOT have the worst UI the world has ever seen, since I rooted it and installed a custom ROM! GummyCHARGED 1.8.5 installs an interface that is the closest to a stock Android install that I've ever seen (Google branded phones excepted, as I've no experience with them). That Samsung TouchWiz interface is a MAJOR reason why I rooted the phone in the first place!
At least my new plastic phone doesn't reboot 8-10 times a day, including right in the middle of phone calls!
Dennis
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All of that still doesn't change the fact you have samsung hardware not supported by the htc sense framework by default. You might have something close to AOSP and still using touchwiz (such as the stripped/themed roms on the thunderbolt) or you might just have an actual AOSP based rom. However, none of that changes the fact that the Sense framework supports sense hardware (which none of that samsung uses) and many of the drivers on the phones are not opensource and so that's what keeps from being as simple as pulling off some .apks on a sense ROM and installing onto your phone. As mentioned, you are far more likely to find someone who can build a sense like framework/launcher from the ground up in the samsung centered or general android development forums than here.
If we're going to resort to name calling and insults by either party, I'll just report the thread to a moderator, because none of that is really needed it's off topic. There's been too much hate going around lately on xda and it just turns off those that really try to help (like me).
If you want a lead of some party to ask, I would contact the developers that ported the touchwiz interface to all android phones or start asking in the older samsung forums that have more development going on (or in the general ones as mentioned). They would probably be the most interested in helping as I mentioned before. http://www.xda-developers.com/android/modified-touchwiz-4-launcher-for-all-android-devices/ (these guys)
Kind of long, but genuine, trying not to get too much bashed here...
Preface/Experience: A year ago or so I experimented with the Samsung Nexus S line of phones from all the major carriers, rooted them, flashed some ROMs, etc, and all my knowledge was learned from here (thanks!), but that was a while ago. I ended up not keeping any of them due to issues at the time with them (GPS locking, single core, 3G, etc) and decided to wait for some newer technology. I recently picked up an HTC Sensation to finally replace my old Blackberry after I had some issues with it the other day. As soon as I took it out of the box, my girlfriend was all mad because the entire time she has had her Thunderbolt she has complained about the SMS application not having separate "bubbles" for the chat windows, and of course Sense 3.0 does this (yes, she has tried handcent and such but doesnt like it). She also fell in love with the Sense 3.0 lock screens I have, home screen scroll, etc. I decided this would be a good first task for me to get back into the Android game...
I spent the first day or so searching about what the hell S-On/S-Off were, how to root these, etc. I successfully have S-Off, root, etc on both our phones via the revolutionary application, clockwork recovery is installed, as well as titanium backup. I have also successfully flashed a synergyROM onto her phone with Sense 3.0 and she has been enjoying it for the most part.
Now, onto the questions...
First, as nice as this ROM is, its a little too modified for her liking. Is there a ROM that would suit her desires better? She is looking for basically stock looking, bloatware removed if possible, with Sense 3.0 messaging and lock screens at a minimum. Nothing too major really, just UI tweaks.
Second, am I correct that after flashing a ROM you need to reinstall titanium backup each time so you can restore your apps and data? Is there a Zip file I can store on the SD card to install TiBu so I dont have to sign in and get it from the market each time?
Third, am I also correct that the main purpose of clockwork recovery is to backup the ROM, and the main purpose of TiBu is for the apps and their data? Meaning, to get the stock ROM back on this phone, I use clockwork to flash the backup I made, then use TiBu to flash the backup I made with that? I know this seems simple, but I just want to be clear Im thinking about this correctly.
Fourth, does it make a difference if I boot into clockwork recovery to flash a ROM versus doing it through ROM manager?
Oh, and fifth. WTH is a radio file/ROM/whatever you want to call it and how do you know which one you have? We are having an issue with her 4G not working on this new ROM I flashed, I assume its an error on my behalf, possibly the radio file? I'm not too clear on what those are just yet (I know, I should know before I started, but oh well)... I will be searching again through the 5 mile long thread over at the site where I found the ROM about 4G connectivity, but so far I haven't seen any issues posted by other people which is why I think I might have missed a step or something.
Any insight to any of these questions is appreciated, and I thank you all in advance!
02CWRX said:
Kind of long, but genuine, trying not to get too much bashed here...
Preface/Experience: A year ago or so I experimented with the Samsung Nexus S line of phones from all the major carriers, rooted them, flashed some ROMs, etc, and all my knowledge was learned from here (thanks!), but that was a while ago. I ended up not keeping any of them due to issues at the time with them (GPS locking, single core, 3G, etc) and decided to wait for some newer technology. I recently picked up an HTC Sensation to finally replace my old Blackberry after I had some issues with it the other day. As soon as I took it out of the box, my girlfriend was all mad because the entire time she has had her Thunderbolt she has complained about the SMS application not having separate "bubbles" for the chat windows, and of course Sense 3.0 does this (yes, she has tried handcent and such but doesnt like it). She also fell in love with the Sense 3.0 lock screens I have, home screen scroll, etc. I decided this would be a good first task for me to get back into the Android game...
I spent the first day or so searching about what the hell S-On/S-Off were, how to root these, etc. I successfully have S-Off, root, etc on both our phones via the revolutionary application, clockwork recovery is installed, as well as titanium backup. I have also successfully flashed a synergyROM onto her phone with Sense 3.0 and she has been enjoying it for the most part.
Now, onto the questions...
First, as nice as this ROM is, its a little too modified for her liking. Is there a ROM that would suit her desires better? She is looking for basically stock looking, bloatware removed if possible, with Sense 3.0 messaging and lock screens at a minimum. Nothing too major really, just UI tweaks.
Second, am I correct that after flashing a ROM you need to reinstall titanium backup each time so you can restore your apps and data? Is there a Zip file I can store on the SD card to install TiBu so I dont have to sign in and get it from the market each time?
Third, am I also correct that the main purpose of clockwork recovery is to backup the ROM, and the main purpose of TiBu is for the apps and their data? Meaning, to get the stock ROM back on this phone, I use clockwork to flash the backup I made, then use TiBu to flash the backup I made with that? I know this seems simple, but I just want to be clear Im thinking about this correctly.
Fourth, does it make a difference if I boot into clockwork recovery to flash a ROM versus doing it through ROM manager?
Oh, and fifth. WTH is a radio file/ROM/whatever you want to call it and how do you know which one you have? We are having an issue with her 4G not working on this new ROM I flashed, I assume its an error on my behalf, possibly the radio file? I'm not too clear on what those are just yet (I know, I should know before I started, but oh well)... I will be searching again through the 5 mile long thread over at the site where I found the ROM about 4G connectivity, but so far I haven't seen any issues posted by other people which is why I think I might have missed a step or something.
Any insight to any of these questions is appreciated, and I thank you all in advance!
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I'm just gonna pm you my gmail... Hit me up and I'll answer your questions.
02CWRX said:
Kind of long, but genuine, trying not to get too much bashed here...
Preface/Experience: A year ago or so I experimented with the Samsung Nexus S line of phones from all the major carriers, rooted them, flashed some ROMs, etc, and all my knowledge was learned from here (thanks!), but that was a while ago. I ended up not keeping any of them due to issues at the time with them (GPS locking, single core, 3G, etc) and decided to wait for some newer technology. I recently picked up an HTC Sensation to finally replace my old Blackberry after I had some issues with it the other day. As soon as I took it out of the box, my girlfriend was all mad because the entire time she has had her Thunderbolt she has complained about the SMS application not having separate "bubbles" for the chat windows, and of course Sense 3.0 does this (yes, she has tried handcent and such but doesnt like it). She also fell in love with the Sense 3.0 lock screens I have, home screen scroll, etc. I decided this would be a good first task for me to get back into the Android game...
I spent the first day or so searching about what the hell S-On/S-Off were, how to root these, etc. I successfully have S-Off, root, etc on both our phones via the revolutionary application, clockwork recovery is installed, as well as titanium backup. I have also successfully flashed a synergyROM onto her phone with Sense 3.0 and she has been enjoying it for the most part.
Now, onto the questions...
First, as nice as this ROM is, its a little too modified for her liking. Is there a ROM that would suit her desires better? She is looking for basically stock looking, bloatware removed if possible, with Sense 3.0 messaging and lock screens at a minimum. Nothing too major really, just UI tweaks.
Second, am I correct that after flashing a ROM you need to reinstall titanium backup each time so you can restore your apps and data? Is there a Zip file I can store on the SD card to install TiBu so I dont have to sign in and get it from the market each time?
Third, am I also correct that the main purpose of clockwork recovery is to backup the ROM, and the main purpose of TiBu is for the apps and their data? Meaning, to get the stock ROM back on this phone, I use clockwork to flash the backup I made, then use TiBu to flash the backup I made with that? I know this seems simple, but I just want to be clear Im thinking about this correctly.
Fourth, does it make a difference if I boot into clockwork recovery to flash a ROM versus doing it through ROM manager?
Oh, and fifth. WTH is a radio file/ROM/whatever you want to call it and how do you know which one you have? We are having an issue with her 4G not working on this new ROM I flashed, I assume its an error on my behalf, possibly the radio file? I'm not too clear on what those are just yet (I know, I should know before I started, but oh well)... I will be searching again through the 5 mile long thread over at the site where I found the ROM about 4G connectivity, but so far I haven't seen any issues posted by other people which is why I think I might have missed a step or something.
Any insight to any of these questions is appreciated, and I thank you all in advance!
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Ok... Got to a real keyboard so I'll toss some answered out there and try to put some structure to the not so structured wealth of information...
One: Synergy is probably the most tweaked up ROM out there. If you're looking for something that's simply bullet-proof reliable, I highly recommend BAMF Forever. Chingy also has some good ROMs in the Gingeritis line. BAMF can be found at teambamf.com and Chingy's ROMs are at themilkmik.com.
If those prove too modified, there's a few debloated ROMs based off the latest OTA patched up to fix the problems with the OTA version.
Two: You wouldn't be looking for a .zip for Titanium Backup. You'd be looking for an .apk file. Not sure where to find that though. Not may devs pack a backup app with their ROM because tastes vary and TiBu isn't the only app that does what it does.
Three: You pretty much have the idea regarding Clockwork backups (a.k.a., nandroid backups). I will direct you to my Q&A thread linked in my sig regarding TiBu. Basically, doing a batch backup is all good, but doing a batch restore is an excellent way to render your ROM useless. Devs use different apps and versions and frameworks and the system data often doesn't work well one ROM to another.
Four: Regarding CWR and Rom Manager, pretty much every dev recommends against using Rom Manager for flashing their ROM. There seems to be issues for whatever reason and it's just proven unreliable over time. A custom recovery is the only good way to flash a ROM and perform the various utility functions a custom recovery affords. You have your choice between CWR, Amon Ra, and TeamWin.
Five: Let me break this down into the 6 basic kinds of flashable files. First, and most common is a ROM. This is the OS, kernel, and UI along with whatever apps the dev has added They are usually 250MB to 310MB .zip files.
Second would be a kernel. ROMs are packed with kernel, but custom kernels exist that may be better for your purposes.
Third, would be radios. Radios can be individual radio firmwares, or a pair of them for CDMA and LTE all in one .zip file. A pair will be roughly 24-25MB, a single radio roughly half that. I explain more about radios in my thread.
Forth would be custom recoveries. These you rarely need to flash, perhaps never, so long as the version you're using supports the ROM's that are out there, and just about every version out there for the Tbolt does.
Fifth would be bootloaders. This is something you pretty much NEVER need to flash unless you've got a pretty good reason to mess with it. Bad radio and bootloader flashes will brick your device.
Sixth would be an RUU. An RUU is a full firmware package for your device. New bootloader, stock recovery, stock kernel, stock ROM, and radios.
There are also mods and patches that you can flash as well. Those are done in the same way as ROMs and kernels. The firmware hierarchy would look something like [bootloader>radio>recovery>ROM] with the bootloader being about as basic as it gets. Once you get used to how all this fits together it will make a lot of sense.
Hope this helps. If you have further questions feel free to hit me up on gtalk, pm me here, or post in this thread or my Q&A thread. I'll get back with you ASAP.
Thanks for the reply, I added you to gtalk also. I kind of feel like a horses ass because Im not sure how I missed that Q&A link; I presume its because I was doing nothing but searching the forums and didn't see the stickies somehow - d'oh. Kind of embarrassing to read that right after doing exactly what it says not to do (ask for ROM suggestions, ask a question about the radios which is laid out as well).
I was looking at the BAMF ROMs just last night actually, looks like I will check those out. I chose the Synergy simply based off the 3 screen shots I saw with the Sense 3.0 (which was my goal). That ROM is pretty cool, but as I said, its a bit much for my (her) needs at this point. Since I got it swapped around and such, it seems Im on the right track none the less.
Ahh, apk, duh. Also the logic as to why its not included makes perfect sense, I hadnt thought of it like that since I just saw those two (clockwork and TiBu) as the "common standard" and went with them even though Im sure plenty of people use others. I just thought I read in one of the how-tos that "setting up accounts" could be skipped simply by loading a TiBu, but since you cant do that without having it and you have to setup the market account to get it, it seemed bassackwards to me I suppose. Oh well. I've made do just fine so far by loading it through the market both times I've needed to.
I assume by "custom recovery" you mean the recovery console using custom software such as CWR which has replaced the factory console. I used CWR to flash it the first time and then when I messed it up with the TiBu restore (which you also covered in your Q&A I read last night after I figured it out and fixed it), I re-flashed it via ROM manager and had no issues that way either - hence the question originally. I will stick to doing it through CWR.
The order of things makes some sense to me now and the light is starting to shine through. I still didn't see much about the radio in the ROM thread, so I'm still curious why we are only looking at 3G. I also (oddly?) didnt see a recommended radio to go with the ROM, but it was late and I was tired. I will look into this again.
Is there a good source for a nice clean stock RUU for her phone just in case we need to go back to stock to warranty it? It has a loose charging plug currently that we may want to have addressed. Alternatively, is there a better way to get it back to "out of the box stock" than flashing an RUU?
Thanks again!
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Thanks for the reply, I added you to gtalk also. I kind of feel like a horses ass because Im not sure how I missed that Q&A link; I presume its because I was doing nothing but searching the forums and didn't see the stickies somehow - d'oh. Kind of embarrassing to read that right after doing exactly what it says not to do (ask for ROM suggestions, ask a question about the radios which is laid out as well).
I was looking at the BAMF ROMs just last night actually, looks like I will check those out. I chose the Synergy simply based off the 3 screen shots I saw with the Sense 3.0 (which was my goal). That ROM is pretty cool, but as I said, its a bit much for my (her) needs at this point. Since I got it swapped around and such, it seems Im on the right track none the less.
Ahh, apk, duh. Also the logic as to why its not included makes perfect sense, I hadnt thought of it like that since I just saw those two (clockwork and TiBu) as the "common standard" and went with them even though Im sure plenty of people use others. I just thought I read in one of the how-tos that "setting up accounts" could be skipped simply by loading a TiBu, but since you cant do that without having it and you have to setup the market account to get it, it seemed bassackwards to me I suppose. Oh well. I've made do just fine so far by loading it through the market both times I've needed to.
I assume by "custom recovery" you mean the recovery console using custom software such as CWR which has replaced the factory console. I used CWR to flash it the first time and then when I messed it up with the TiBu restore (which you also covered in your Q&A I read last night after I figured it out and fixed it), I re-flashed it via ROM manager and had no issues that way either - hence the question originally. I will stick to doing it through CWR.
The order of things makes some sense to me now and the light is starting to shine through. I still didn't see much about the radio in the ROM thread, so I'm still curious why we are only looking at 3G. I also (oddly?) didnt see a recommended radio to go with the ROM, but it was late and I was tired. I will look into this again.
Is there a good source for a nice clean stock RUU for her phone just in case we need to go back to stock to warranty it? It has a loose charging plug currently that we may want to have addressed. Alternatively, is there a better way to get it back to "out of the box stock" than flashing an RUU?
Thanks again!
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I think the RUU for 2.11.605.3 is floating around here somewhere. If it's not here, it's on Rootzwiki. The problem with flashing an RUU to return to stock is that if you rooted via Revolutionary it's not going to work. The bootloader Revolutionary is patched to prevent overwriting. You'll need to find a guide for unrooting after a Revolutionary root, but I think I have one in my thread. If you rooted via ADB, then flashing an RUU should do the trick.
Not really sure why LTE isn't working. LTE and CDMA data are handled on the same chip with the same radio so if one doesn't work, the other shouldn't work either. My best suggestion is try a different radio. I'd suggest the 2.10 radio or one of the 2.11 radios. People have generally been having pretty good luck with those. You might try going into the radio settings and forcing it to use LTE Only. If it can't find an LTE signal it'll revert back to 1x. For reference, any radio from an RUU 1.70 or later will work just fine with all the Gingerbread ROMs currently out there.
Hit me up if you've got any more questions.
Turns out it was in fact user error. There is a toggle built into the ROM to exclude LTE service if you wish *facepalm*
I had looked in a radio menu before after the first flash knowing of such toggles, but it was already selected correctly. It got reflashed after the TiBu mishap, still no 4G, and we called it a night. Today I found where someone mentioned a toggle and where it was, so I texted her to look following those directions. Sure enough she found it and she was able to change it to have 4G. I'm curious which menu I looked in initially and which menu she found the toggle in now. In any case, it seems its all working and that's what matters.
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Turns out it was in fact user error. There is a toggle built into the ROM to exclude LTE service if you wish *facepalm*
I had looked in a radio menu before after the first flash knowing of such toggles, but it was already selected correctly. It got reflashed after the TiBu mishap, still no 4G, and we called it a night. Today I found where someone mentioned a toggle and where it was, so I texted her to look following those directions. Sure enough she found it and she was able to change it to have 4G. I'm curious which menu I looked in initially and which menu she found the toggle in now. In any case, it seems its all working and that's what matters.
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There's two of them, I know. Don't know why we need two that basically do the same thing, but we do! Glad you got it working. I use an app called LTE On/Off for flipping back and forth. Sometimes you need that because it'll stick on 3G when you know you're in an LTE area and it helps to kinda force it.
I am done with ROMs. There, I said it. The fact is, that they are usually more buggy than the stock ROM, and they really tend to jack things up when you want to revert.
The last one changed the MainVer and I cannot seem to get the phone back to stock. I followed the instructions for fixing Mainver, doesn't work.
Tried to RUU and also use the PH98IMG.Zip from HBoot, but those don't work because the last ROM changed the Mainver so neither of those methods work any more.
I thought I had it fixed by using Scott's CleanFlash tool to push the stock kernel to the phone and it did work for awhile, but now my phone is stuck in a bootloop and I really need to get this fixed, I need to get it to do a real RUU and completely restore the phone to stock. I can then just root it and debloat it and stop messing with ROMs which frankly are never enough benefit to justify the harm and aggravation they cause.
So can someone please point me in the right direction to find a way to correct Mainver so that I can just restore the phone with the latest OTA version of RUU and then leave my phone alone and stop messing it up? LOL
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I am done with ROMs. There, I said it. The fact is, that they are usually more buggy than the stock ROM, and they really tend to jack things up when you want to revert.
The last one changed the MainVer and I cannot seem to get the phone back to stock. I followed the instructions for fixing Mainver, doesn't work.
Tried to RUU and also use the PH98IMG.Zip from HBoot, but those don't work because the last ROM changed the Mainver so neither of those methods work any more.
I thought I had it fixed by using Scott's CleanFlash tool to push the stock kernel to the phone and it did work for awhile, but now my phone is stuck in a bootloop and I really need to get this fixed, I need to get it to do a real RUU and completely restore the phone to stock. I can then just root it and debloat it and stop messing with ROMs which frankly are never enough benefit to justify the harm and aggravation they cause.
So can someone please point me in the right direction to find a way to correct Mainver so that I can just restore the phone with the latest OTA version of RUU and then leave my phone alone and stop messing it up? LOL
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I think I may have solved it. I think I finally got the Mainver fixed and RUU appears to be working, finally.
But I am still done with ROM's until an ICS OTA is pushed out. LOL
If anyone sees me installing a ROM before then, feel free to kick me in the neck...
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I think I may have solved it. I think I finally got the Mainver fixed and RUU appears to be working, finally.
But I am still done with ROM's until an ICS OTA is pushed out. LOL
If anyone sees me installing a ROM before then, feel free to kick me in the neck...
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It's not all that bad bro.... ROM'ing = patience + experimentation + phone insurance.
That sucks you have been having so much trouble man. The whole change to a device with a only an unlocked bootloader along with the newer android version is really throwing Devs and Users for a loop. There is a lot to learn.
I hope all these events don't make you stray from flashing forever!
Sorry you've had such bad luck. My experience with custom roms has been the opposite. I've taken mediocre phones with buggy/laggy stock roms and turned them into solid, stable devices. Some of the features and extras baked into custom roms are so nice. I'm running Scott's Clean GB 1.6 and it has been 100% stable. I haven't had any fc's or reboots, and everything works. And no bloat!
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I think I may have solved it. I think I finally got the Mainver fixed and RUU appears to be working, finally.
But I am still done with ROM's until an ICS OTA is pushed out. LOL
If anyone sees me installing a ROM before then, feel free to kick me in the neck...
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Glad you got it fixed and working again Squire, what was your hang up by the way with getting the RUU to run ? I know you were having trouble getting it to see your device what ended up being the issue ?
Marcismo55 said:
That sucks you have been having so much trouble man. The whole change to a device with a only an unlocked bootloader along with the newer android version is really throwing Devs and Users for a loop. There is a lot to learn.
I hope all these events don't make you stray from flashing forever!
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Yeah, it really is weird. In a lot of ways, I prefer the DroidX and Motorola experiences I had. They may have an encrypted bootloader, but you could still install ROMs and it sorta helped keep you from messing up the phone, and SDLite always worked for me.
Part of me wonders what the ROM craze is all about. I mean, I fall into it myself, but then I ask myself, why do I do this? I have yet to see a ROM that runs as well as the stock one, once you root and debloat it. Sure, some of them look nice, but when you see what bugs there are, how many things don't work, and then the issues that can come up when you have to revert... I dunno... I start out all jazzed up and then more frustrated than ever when they just never seem to work properly...
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Yeah, it really is weird. In a lot of ways, I prefer the DroidX and Motorola experiences I had. They may have an encrypted bootloader, but you could still install ROMs and it sorta helped keep you from messing up the phone, and SDLite always worked for me.
Part of me wonders what the ROM craze is all about. I mean, I fall into it myself, but then I ask myself, why do I do this? I have yet to see a ROM that runs as well as the stock one, once you root and debloat it. Sure, some of them look nice, but when you see what bugs there are, how many things don't work, and then the issues that can come up when you have to revert... I dunno... I start out all jazzed up and then more frustrated than ever when they just never seem to work properly...
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I think some of the issue seems to be how much you need all the parts to work flawlessly for work. As far as my usage and what apps I use, I really can't complain about any of the builds. I just text, surf, browse the internet and play games and music. I never use exchange, blue tooth and those seem to be the biggest flaws with the leaks. So for me the experience is totally different. I think it really all depends on the users needs obviously. To bad you can't get work to spring for one phone for you and then you can have your personal phone to play with
But even the stock ROMs piss me off. I just did an RUU, unlocked it, rooted it, tested to make sure SU is installed and updated, and neither TI pro or ROM Toolbox can freeze my bloat apps. And Scott's CleanTool was never updated to work with the latest OTA, so I am left wondering how the hell I am supposed to disable all this crap.
There are definitely days when the iPhone and "just working" look very appealing... sigh...
I also think that part of the problem is that a lot of the apps and things are disjointed and don't work properly. There is no real checks and balances in the Androiud world, no review process. Any college kid taking a programming course is a "software engineer" and the results are that half the apps and stuff out there are hit or miss at best. It takes forever to weed through all the crap to find the one or two apps that actually work right...
This inability to debloat is driving me nuts.
This is what I am talking about, the plethora of **** apps out there that just don't work. ROM Toolbox, granted root access, go in and grab an app like Blockbuster and tell it to Freeze it.
says it is doing it.
Still says that 10 minutes later. Have to manually FC the app and then go back in and try another app. TIB does the same thing.
How the hell can you freeze apps or just delete them if neither ROM Toolbox nor TIB can do it?
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This inability to debloat is driving me nuts.
This is what I am talking about, the plethora of **** apps out there that just don't work. ROM Toolbox, granted root access, go in and grab an app like Blockbuster and tell it to Freeze it.
says it is doing it.
Still says that 10 minutes later. Have to manually FC the app and then go back in and try another app. TIB does the same thing.
How the hell can you freeze apps or just delete them if neither ROM Toolbox nor TIB can do it?
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Dude, seriously. You have the worst freaking luck with this phone. At first I was just annoyed with your posts, but now I just feel bad for you lol Like, really...I'm sending you good phone vibes...hopefully your phone troubles go away
EDIT: Also, there are other apps that can freeze other apps, I think. Can't remember the name of them, but I think they're out there.
WasabiWa83 said:
Dude, seriously. You have the worst freaking luck with this phone. At first I was just annoyed with your posts, but now I just feel bad for you lol Like, really...I'm sending you good phone vibes...hopefully your phone troubles go away
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Yeah, well if something can go wrong for me, it will.
I did a straight RUU, fully restored to stock. Unlocked. Rooted. Installed SU and updated it, and I cannot debloat any of the **** apps.
This used to work. It worked on my GF's Rezound last week, same OS, same OTA, same exact process, but when I do it, it just sits there doing nothing.
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Yeah, well if something can go wrong for me, it will.
I did a straight RUU, fully restored to stock. Unlocked. Rooted. Installed SU and updated it, and I cannot debloat any of the **** apps.
This used to work. It worked on my GF's Rezound last week, same OS, same OTA, same exact process, but when I do it, it just sits there doing nothing.
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That sucks. I've had TiBu hang on backups and restores, but never on freezes. That's really strange. I would look for another app. You could try something like this. Just buy it and try for a second and then refund if it doesn't work right away. Just a thought. Hope it gets better for you.
WasabiWa83 said:
That sucks. I've had TiBu hang on backups and restores, but never on freezes. That's really strange. I would look for another app. You could try something like this. Just buy it and try for a second and then refund if it doesn't work right away. Just a thought. Hope it gets better for you.
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Tried it, it also hangs on freezes just like all the others.
I am stumped. I am really starting to hate this phucking phone.
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Tried it, it also hangs on freezes just like all the others.
I am stumped. I am really starting to hate this phucking phone.
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Just buy rootexplorer and mount to r/o in system and go to app and either rename all the bloatware to .bak or just delete the apk's you don't want like blockbuster etc.. thats what I did and I am not sure why people freeze over renaming or deleting personally.
by renaming to .bak then if you like you can just delete the .bak and viola app is restored !
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Just buy rootexplorer and mount to r/o in system and go to app and either rename all the bloatware to .bak or just delete the apk's you don't want like blockbuster etc.. thats what I did and I am not sure why people freeze over renaming or deleting personally.
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Good idea, though it would be mounted as R/W, would it not?
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Good idea, though it would be mounted as R/W, would it not?
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er yes sorry.. I crossed that up
I was trying to picture the screen and was seeing the r/o at the top.. lol have to press that to change to read/ write to alter the actually files.
Tried that and even after renaming and rebooting, most of the apps are still in the app drawer...
The bottom line is that the last ROM I tried really screwed up my phone. I may have to smash it and get a new one under my insurance plan...
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Tried that and even after renaming and rebooting, most of the apps are still in the app drawer...
The bottom line is that the last ROM I tried really screwed up my phone. I may have to smash it and get a new one under my insurance plan...
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Now, that is wierd did you try deleting them or just moving the apk's onto your SD card from the folder if you wanted to keep them ? There is no reason this shouldn't work that I can think of .
Ok so I'm fairly new to the whole rooting thing but I have been studying up quite abit. Lots of really good videos on youtube!! So I'm just looking for some direction on what kind of things I can/should do now that I have rooted my phone. Here is the break down so far:
Rooted - Towelroot
Root Browser Installed
BusyBox Installed
Safestrap Installed and backup saved
Titanium Back Up Installed. Most Bloatware has been safely removed with no issues thus far
SuperSu Installed
Terminal Emulator Installed
CPU Tuner installed but have absolutely no clue what I am doing - still researching this
I think that is about it. So any tipps on next direction would greatly be appreciated!!
Thanks in advance
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Ok so I'm fairly new to the whole rooting thing but I have been studying up quite abit. Lots of really good videos on youtube!! So I'm just looking for some direction on what kind of things I can/should do now that I have rooted my phone. Here is the break down so far:
Rooted - Towelroot
Root Browser Installed
BusyBox Installed
Safestrap Installed and backup saved
Titanium Back Up Installed. Most Bloatware has been safely removed with no issues thus far
SuperSu Installed
Terminal Emulator Installed
CPU Tuner installed but have absolutely no clue what I am doing - still researching this
I think that is about it. So any tipps on next direction would greatly be appreciated!!
Thanks in advance
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O yes my S4 is NC5 and stock rom
Make phone calls... or browse the internet.
Mine does facebook good.
All the root, customization , ect. is just to make it do what YOU want it to do. If there isn't something your trying to get it to do that it doesn't... There isn't really a what next, be happy.
If there IS something your trying to get it to do that it doesn't... that next.
edit: though if your not using a custom rom you should probably freeze the program that controls OTA updates. Hopefully someone can chime in with what its called... Been awhile and I forget, and just flashed a rom instead of worrying about it last time I updated my phone.
Like you, I've frozen/killed/uninstalled all the crapware I could. Beyond that, all I've done is installed the Google Launcher. My phone is well behaved and pretty responsive, with minimal lag.
All I would really want at this point is an unlocked bootloader so I could install a straight Google ROM.
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Like you, I've frozen/killed/uninstalled all the crapware I could. Beyond that, all I've done is installed the Google Launcher. My phone is well behaved and pretty responsive, with minimal lag.
All I would really want at this point is an unlocked bootloader so I could install a straight Google ROM.
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I'm on NC5 and have been happily running GPE ROM for quite awhile now. Only problem is the Kernel difference so there's no USB transfer.
Thanks for the reply's. Yeah I don't really game or anything. Heck I don't even Facebook lol but I would like to Play around with getting better battery life and maybe a little speed. Not that I really need too, the response is very good and the lag is only noticeable at times. I want to play around with the CPU tuner but I'm nervous about messing something up and I have not installed a new Kernel yet and from what I have read that is a must.
BowHunter2400 said:
Thanks for the reply's. Yeah I don't really game or anything. Heck I don't even Facebook lol but I would like to Play around with getting better battery life and maybe a little speed. Not that I really need too, the response is very good and the lag is only noticeable at times. I want to play around with the CPU tuner but I'm nervous about messing something up and I have not installed a new Kernel yet and from what I have read that is a must.
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NO! Installing a new kernel on SafeStrap NC5 is not a must! It will brick your phone! You can use TW based ROMS and one or two very special AOSP Roms, no new kernels though!
BowHunter2400 said:
Thanks for the reply's. Yeah I don't really game or anything. Heck I don't even Facebook lol but I would like to Play around with getting better battery life and maybe a little speed. Not that I really need too, the response is very good and the lag is only noticeable at times. I want to play around with the CPU tuner but I'm nervous about messing something up and I have not installed a new Kernel yet and from what I have read that is a must.
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I use android tuner for my tuning needs. Really expansive options and a really great app. If you want a really light ROM fort SS GPE ROMs are about 400-500MB. Gets rid of clunky touchwiz and solely runs on Google Now Launcher. Only bummer is the loss of the Touchwiz camera app.
scryan said:
Make phone calls... or browse the internet.
Mine does facebook good.
All the root, customization , ect. is just to make it do what YOU want it to do. If there isn't something your trying to get it to do that it doesn't... There isn't really a what next, be happy.
If there IS something your trying to get it to do that it doesn't... that next.
edit: though if your not using a custom rom you should probably freeze the program that controls OTA updates. Hopefully someone can chime in with what its called... Been awhile and I forget, and just flashed a rom instead of worrying about it last time I updated my phone.
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FWupgrade.apk and SDM.apk spdclient.apk is for security notifications.
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npjohnson said:
NO! Installing a new kernel on SafeStrap NC5 is not a must! It will brick your phone! You can use TW based ROMS and one or two very special AOSP Roms, no new kernels though!
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Well now, learn something new every day here! So any good sugestions??
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Well now, learn something new every day here! So any good sugestions??
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HyperDrive is solid and a good ROM for those newer to 'all this' IMO. I am on BlackBox which is stupid fast and has great battery life but is a little buggy. I've had it on my phone for over a week now and have no plans of taking it off anytime soon. But it's up to you now. Just make sure you wipe everything before you flash, always make a backup beforehand and only flash ROM's that are proven on your device and your bootloader and you will be money. Also, read read read the threads before flashing.
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NO! Installing a new kernel on SafeStrap NC5 is not a must! It will brick your phone! You can use TW based ROMS and one or two very special AOSP Roms, no new kernels though!
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liljoe727 said:
HyperDrive is solid and a good ROM for those newer to 'all this' IMO. I am on BlackBox which is stupid fast and has great battery life but is a little buggy. I've had it on my phone for over a week now and have no plans of taking it off anytime soon. But it's up to you now. Just make sure you wipe everything before you flash, always make a backup beforehand and only flash ROM's that are proven on your device and your bootloader and you will be money. Also, read read read the threads before flashing.
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Appreciate that Liljoe!!
scryan said:
Make phone calls... or browse the internet.
Mine does facebook good.
All the root, customization , ect. is just to make it do what YOU want it to do. If there isn't something your trying to get it to do that it doesn't... There isn't really a what next, be happy.
If there IS something your trying to get it to do that it doesn't... that next.
edit: though if your not using a custom rom you should probably freeze the program that controls OTA updates. Hopefully someone can chime in with what its called... Been awhile and I forget, and just flashed a rom instead of worrying about it last time I updated my phone.
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it's called SDM in the system portion... and I would get lucky patcher and black mart alpha installed to. these give you access to everything and all the paid apps too.
Add a tethering/hotspot app.