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So... It looks as though Hero development may end with Gingerbread (2.3). Honeycomb (3.0) looks very tablet orientated and some devs are already stating it may be hard to port it.
My question is, after the resilient little Hero, what would be the next best handset to move to? A lot of people have mentioned the Desire HD or the Desire Z, but I'd like to hear from you guys, what do you think?
Update: I prefer a HTC handset myself, but which would be a good one to move to for the next set of decent ROMs??
I also believe, that after getting fully operational 2.3 with 2.6.35 kernel it will be pretty much it
Contracts are ending (I have one more year to go), developers are moving to other projects.
I hope that we will have one day "[GPL][2.3][2.6.35]Final Rom for hero".
After hero? Well, perhaps some crazy samsung device (although their quality isn't as good as HTC). I'm sure I'll stick with android, one of the best choices ever made
cheers!
I'll keep my Hero until a Tegra 2 device is realeased
I'm going to hang on to my hero for as long as possible... But I'm starting to think the Nexus S might be the next decent handset to move to, no-ones started developing ROMs yet though... Although I did notice Cyanogen had created a thread in his forum for it
I think 2.3 is maximum for Hero. Honeycomb is likely their requirements opportunities Hero.
takuhii said:
I'm going to hang on to my hero for as long as possible... But I'm starting to think the Nexus S might be the next decent handset to move to, no-ones started developing ROMs yet though... Although I did notice Cyanogen had created a thread in his forum for it
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I take that back!!! Nexus S is a Samsung handset, and got a fairly "meh" review on The Register.
It's a personal issue; I just don't like Samsung phones!!
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I'll keep my Hero until a Tegra 2 device is realeased
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I have to admit, this looks like the root (sorry!) I'm most likely to take.
The Nexus S seems to be a decent choice
But after putting froyo on my hero for the first time and seeing how fast it became, I think I can wait for the next reference phone
Hopefully, the next one will have a full RGB AMOLED instead of the Pentile PoS on the current Nexus S
On my next phone I'm looking for:
Tegra 2 or similar, perhaps dual core hummingbird with dedicated gpu
300+ dpi RGB AMOLED screen
Proper capacitative multitouch
Hard buttons
NO FINGERPRINT MAGNET, minimal gloss&plastic, good materials
In any case, would Honeycomb be for tablets? I assumed that honeycomb won't come to phones
kiljacken said:
I'll keep my Hero until a Tegra 2 device is realeased
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yep, same hear, dual core is the way forward.
I plan to run the hero, cancel my TMO contract and get a giffgaff PAYG sim until a decent Tegra2 (preferrably HTC!) comes to the market.
not sure if i'd go back on contract or stick with giffgaff...i'll see how they perform, then buy the handset sim free (ouch?!?)
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In any case, would Honeycomb be for tablets? I assumed that honeycomb won't come to phones
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personally, i think there will be a version of Honeycomb for phones, when the dual core handsets become more readily available. maybe a 'cut down' version.
i have Hero for like 8 months now. Pretty good phone, but still a little bit slow, only compared to other smartphones (but as a phone, it is great).
But yesterday i bought SGS.
for my girlfriend. i hate world
Sorry, what's an SGS?
Uopdate: OH! Samsung Galaxy S?
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Update: I prefer a HTC handset myself, but which would be a good one to move to for the next set of decent ROMs??
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it depends on your needs i think. if you're flashjunky like me our hero will end soon i think because the processors won't be enough soon.
and also be careful about screen, only desire (not z nor hd) has amoled screen. so for better screen sharpness, you may get desire for now. and also it gets great scores
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So... It looks as though Hero development may end with Gingerbread (2.3). Honeycomb (3.0) looks very tablet orientated and some devs are already stating it may be hard to port it.
My question is, after the resilient little Hero, what would be the next best handset to move to? A lot of people have mentioned the Desire HD or the Desire Z, but I'd like to hear from you guys, what do you think?
Update: I prefer a HTC handset myself, but which would be a good one to move to for the next set of decent ROMs??
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I have to smile. Fertile has a year left on his contrast, and knowing him he'll find plAces to take it.
hush...
When i change my Hero, i will to buy a HTC Desire.
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good point.
What would you replace your hero with ??????
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good point.
What would you replace your hero with ??????
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It's looking like a HTC Desire at the moment. I was told to avoid the Desire and go for a Desire HD or Desire Z. Not sure why though, the Desire is the only one of the three with an AMOLED display...
I've had the Hero for just over a year now, and honestly, jailbreaking it has given it a new lease of life. That said though, it's definitely not gonna get 3.0 by the looks of things, and I'd rather not get left behind in terms of software updates. I will likely get an HTC or a Samsung; both companies make good hardware that's pretty powerful. I have considered buying a Nexus S outright, but it's kinda beyond my budget right now...
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I've had the Hero for just over a year now, and honestly, jailbreaking it has given it a new lease of life. That said though, it's definitely not gonna get 3.0 by the looks of things, and I'd rather not get left behind in terms of software updates. I will likely get an HTC or a Samsung; both companies make good hardware that's pretty powerful. I have considered buying a Nexus S outright, but it's kinda beyond my budget right now...
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Completely agree with you. I bought a Hero when my iPhone went t*ts up.
But my concern was that the newer versions of Android are going to require faster hardware and there will come a point where the Hero just won't be able to cut it anymore. So what's the next best handset to go up to? At the moment a HTC Desire
Well, it's looking like either Nexus S, or Desire for me =P
Hi, i was wondering if there is any option or any ROM or any guide to make this device Android? thanks in advance
Yes, it is called HTC Sensation XL.
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Why does everyone answer this question in this forum the same? Maybe people don't want to buy an HTC Sensation XL, since they have an amazing and great(better) looking phone already.
I also would love to see Android on my Titan, since I'm not that content with wp 7.5.
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Why does everyone answer this question in this forum the same? Maybe people don't want to buy an HTC Sensation XL, since they have an amazing and great(better) looking phone already.
I also would love to see Android on my Titan, since I'm not that content with wp 7.5.
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Because WP comes with so much security around the bootloaders and NAND that we are not even able to interop unlock the phones like Titan, so dreaming about Android is not even on the table yet.
Thus anyone not content with wp 7.5, can either wait 5-6 months for WP8 or sale their Titan right now, while you can sell it at good price and grab a HTC Sensation XL. It's exactly as it says in my signature too.
By the time we might get around modding the Titan in a few months time, WP8 will come with even further securities and features. I for one, would rather enjoy the WP8 features than not-upgrade because there might be a possibility of running Android.
HTC Sensation XL is EXACTLY the same phone, different software. I own a Sensation XL, it is sitting in a drawer since after week 2 of purchase. Hence I know its ditto same, only running Gingerbread (ICS was promised to me by the sales guy in November. He said I should have it around Christmas). There aren't any custom ICS (stable and safe) ROMs for that phone either and it's been 6 months.
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Yes, it is called HTC Sensation XL.
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It has a good name can you buy me one? Coz this HTC titan i got it free from my operator!
lol, Sell it then buy one
bxlogic said:
It has a good name can you buy me one? Coz this HTC titan i got it free from my operator!
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XDA Marketplace - Trade in your device and swap or Sell one. If you got your HTC Titan free from your operator, you will obviously be better off trading it for Sensation XL.
drupad2drupad said:
Because WP comes with so much security around the bootloaders and NAND that we are not even able to interop unlock the phones like Titan, so dreaming about Android is not even on the table yet.
Thus anyone not content with wp 7.5, can either wait 5-6 months for WP8 or sale their Titan right now, while you can sell it at good price and grab a HTC Sensation XL. It's exactly as it says in my signature too.
By the time we might get around modding the Titan in a few months time, WP8 will come with even further securities and features. I for one, would rather enjoy the WP8 features than not-upgrade because there might be a possibility of running Android.
HTC Sensation XL is EXACTLY the same phone, different software. I own a Sensation XL, it is sitting in a drawer since after week 2 of purchase. Hence I know its ditto same, only running Gingerbread (ICS was promised to me by the sales guy in November. He said I should have it around Christmas). There aren't any custom ICS (stable and safe) ROMs for that phone either and it's been 6 months.
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I know I know, but I too am most curious for Windows Phone 8.
HTC titan android
it is possible
androidonhtc.com/wiki/Installing_Android
TheDutchmaster said:
it is possible
androidonhtc.com/wiki/Installing_Android
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No, it is not.
The site you're linking to is talking about the original HTC Titan which was the code name for a CDMA Windows Mobile 6.x device on Sprint and Verizon is the US.
Don't confuse code names with retail product names.
It is possible. You just need get all the drivers and know how to pack an Android ROM based on an old hardware like Nexus One. Sensation XL ROM won't help because the internal chipsets are totally different (they are newer dual-core variant). Titan contains similar hardware capability like Nexus One. So a modern Android OS like Gingerbread or ICS will run like crap on it (I knew this because my Galaxy S2 running 1.2G Dual core with 1GB RAM can't even run as smooth as the Titan runing WP7). Hence no one in their right mind will waste their time to create a Titan Android ROM unless you want to do it yourself.
It is possible but not probable. If you want Android experience, buy an Android phone.
gamescan said:
No, it is not.
The site you're linking to is talking about the original HTC Titan which was the code name for a CDMA Windows Mobile 6.x device on Sprint and Verizon is the US.
Don't confuse code names with retail product names.
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omg it was late @ night and was searching for the same since i was considering to buy the htc titan ..
so this is not possible to put android on this phone ?
nevermind what i said here
@ foxbat when i have the device i am going to attempt to built a rom for it , just for fun "
TheDutchmaster said:
omg it was late @ night and was searching for the same since i was considering to buy the htc titan ..
so this is not possible to put android on this phone ?
nevermind what i said here
@ foxbat when i have the device i am going to attempt to built a rom for it , just for fun "
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Nope, not possible at this time. If you want to write a new bootloader, maybe you'll be able to pull it off.
I seriously hope that this is never ever not ever can never be never possible.
Guess I'm just getting tired of the Android crowd continually asking this about every single device in existence. OK! Android can be installed on a variety of devices! We get it already!
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I seriously hope that this is never ever not ever can never be never possible.
Guess I'm just getting tired of the Android crowd continually asking this about every single device in existence. OK! Android can be installed on a variety of devices! We get it already!
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just because android is more smart than WP7
i got tired form the GPS don't give me the shorter route with traffic.
when i search oakland airport
it show oakland airport INN and GAS station
I need to go to f###ing airport
I'm so disappointed for my WP7
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just because android is more smart than WP7
i got tired form the GPS don't give me the shorter route with traffic.
when i search oakland airport
it show oakland airport INN and GAS station
I need to go to f###ing airport
I'm so disappointed for my WP7
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GPS has nothing to do with mobile OS. It's an app. Try a different GPS app on your WP7.
On the other hand, my super dupper Dual-core Samsung Galaxy S2 with 1 GB RAM can never match any of my WP7 phones with signal core and 512MB RAM for the smoothness of UI.
Google's free services (including Nav) are the only good things about Android. The rest of OS is just junk.
htc titan x310e aka HTC Eternity, HTC Bunyip, HTC Ultimate
hello,
Q: "Is it possible to install android on HTC Eternity, HTC Bunyip, HTC Ultimate=> HTC Titan x310e is the name of that smartphone in Croatia!? and if its possible where to look for the ROM!?".
i hope someone can help me on this forum, since i cant find answer anywhere, through websearches alway pops up some other shartphone or ROM.
thanks in advance!
no man...its not possible to install android on htc titan/eternity....but its possible to sell your phone with wp7 and buy a android phone!!!!!
smartphones are not so expensive anymore....no android port...not today..not tomorrow...and i think it will be never!
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Thanks for the laugh guys! I've been around since well Windows Mobile 6.0. I had/have a Sensation and a Skyrocket (Galaxy SII). I've been over to the dark side for god 2 years now! Just got a free Titan II and decided I would leave my sim card in it for a couple months since it's got the LTE radio. So far I'm liking it. Really liking it.
Now to just break MS security unlock the boot loader and Nand write some custom loader oh wait I KNOW I'll port over clockwork mod. Then I will round up all the drivers modify them if needed and compile a android build. Might as well start with ICS since it's the newest. So in a year or two I should be done and have android running on this mofo at least half as well as it ran on my HD2 )~
foxbat121 said:
It is possible. You just need get all the drivers and know how to pack an Android ROM based on an old hardware like Nexus One. Sensation XL ROM won't help because the internal chipsets are totally different (they are newer dual-core variant). Titan contains similar hardware capability like Nexus One. So a modern Android OS like Gingerbread or ICS will run like crap on it (I knew this because my Galaxy S2 running 1.2G Dual core with 1GB RAM can't even run as smooth as the Titan runing WP7). Hence no one in their right mind will waste their time to create a Titan Android ROM unless you want to do it yourself.
It is possible but not probable. If you want Android experience, buy an Android phone.
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You are wrong in many ways here.
So I saw this today on a new HTC model the M7. A few of the specs have leaked, but nothing substantial. Take a look at what we know so far:
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"The HTC Droid DNA has been on the market for only two weeks (and we’re still waiting on the international launch for the HTC DLX), but HTC is already focused on its next flagship device. According to multiple sources, HTC is working with semiconductor and casing suppliers in an effort to secure enough components to manufacture 4 to 5 million units of the HTC M7 in Q1 of 2013.
Exact specifications of the mysterious HTC M7 are a bit vague, but with a little bit of research we’ve been able to pull together quite a bit of information about the phone. Form what we can gather, the HTC M7 will feature a 5-inch HD display, a uni-body aluminum shell, Qualcomm APQ8064 quad-core processor and a 13 megapixel camera."
Welcome to the smartphone industry. Its like clockwork and always will be
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So I saw this today on a new HTC model the M7. A few of the specs have leaked, but nothing substantial. Take a look at what we know so far:
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"The HTC Droid DNA has been on the market for only two weeks (and we’re still waiting on the international launch for the HTC DLX), but HTC is already focused on its next flagship device. According to multiple sources, HTC is working with semiconductor and casing suppliers in an effort to secure enough components to manufacture 4 to 5 million units of the HTC M7 in Q1 of 2013.
Exact specifications of the mysterious HTC M7 are a bit vague, but with a little bit of research we’ve been able to pull together quite a bit of information about the phone. Form what we can gather, the HTC M7 will feature a 5-inch HD display, a uni-body aluminum shell, Qualcomm APQ8064 quad-core processor and a 13 megapixel camera."
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Not the DNA on steroids, more like...the exact same specs as the DNA in an aluminum case. So it'll basically be the One X+++ and will go to the crappy carriers to bolster their failing markets, or go to Europe. New Year rumors for HTC devices usually means a GSM release. Wake me when HTC actually creates a unified device line instead of their scatter-shot releases like they promised last year.
x4sper said:
Welcome to the smartphone industry. Its like clockwork and always will be
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IPhone 5 and Droid DNA hybrid. I think HTC has sunk to a new desperate low. Paying off Apple and releasing every product they have on every operating system and hoping one sticks.
Here is some advice HTC. Having something that remotely resembles a plan will do wonders rather than going full throttle without a plan.
I'm not entirely certain why people with the DNA are upset?
It was clear from the DNAs specs that HTC would have a better flagship next year (the DNAs camera is the same as the HOX).
As predicted, aside from physical changes, the only thing new is the Camera.
So, Verizon customers get a device 4 months before everyone else, sacrificing only a camera and aluminum unibody. Not a bad deal TBH.
HTC needs something exciting like bringing back the aluminum unibody. The Desire HD is a fantastically solid device, and the HTC M7, if real, is a perfect replacement.
Surprised Qualcomm hasn't announced a better SoC than the APQ they are using currently...
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Surprised Qualcomm hasn't announced a better SoC than the APQ they are using currently...
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I'll be waiting to see if a phone comes out with the MSM8974 under the hood. :fingers-crossed:
Argumentation said:
I'll be waiting to see if a phone comes out with the MSM8974 under the hood. :fingers-crossed:
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More likely this...
At present, this [S4 Pro] is the same Krait CPU as what we've seen in MSM8960 in phones like the USA versions of the Galaxy S 3 and HTC One X. Later on, Krait v3 will emerge with higher IPC and shorter critical paths (and clocks up to 1.7 or 2 GHz) and a resulting 10-15% boost in performance. For now however we're looking at 1.5 GHz APQ8064 with a Krait v2 inside and Qualcomm's newest scalar GPU architecture with Adreno 320. We're going to talk more about Adreno 320 closer to devices shipping, when Qualcomm feels comfortable talking architecture.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6112/...agon-s4-apq8064adreno-320-performance-preview
Architecturally, S4 Pro is just S4 with two additional cores and a different GPU.
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I'll be waiting to see if a phone comes out with the MSM8974 under the hood. :fingers-crossed:
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Yes the MSM8974 should be a beast... Supposed to start showing up next yr though...
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BarryH_GEG said:
More likely this...
At present, this [S4 Pro] is the same Krait CPU as what we've seen in MSM8960 in phones like the USA versions of the Galaxy S 3 and HTC One X. Later on, Krait v3 will emerge with higher IPC and shorter critical paths (and clocks up to 1.7 or 2 GHz) and a resulting 10-15% boost in performance. For now however we're looking at 1.5 GHz APQ8064 with a Krait v2 inside and Qualcomm's newest scalar GPU architecture with Adreno 320. We're going to talk more about Adreno 320 closer to devices shipping, when Qualcomm feels comfortable talking architecture.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6112/...agon-s4-apq8064adreno-320-performance-preview
Architecturally, S4 Pro is just S4 with two additional cores and a different GPU.
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I still hate how they coined the quad core as the s4 pro bc originally the S4 Pro was the MSM8960 Pro SoC which was the 8960 with the higher better GPU..... Then ppl started calling the quad the pro...
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i will so buy this if it comes out!!!
luke1333 said:
i will so buy this if it comes out!!!
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Don't we all have a DNA who ever is posting in this thread no reason at all to upgrade because it's not an upgrade except for the camera.
Ndaoud360 said:
Don't we all have a DNA who ever is posting in this thread no reason at all to upgrade because it's not an upgrade except for the camera.
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truth is nobody really knows yet.
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I still hate how they coined the quad core as the s4 pro bc originally the S4 Pro was the MSM8960 Pro SoC which was the 8960 with the higher better GPU..... Then ppl started calling the quad the pro...
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Are you sure it wasn't the "Plus" and some people thought it was "Pro"? It is officially called "Plus" now at least.
I've seen stuff like this happen though. My HTC Touch had a "micro usb" port for charging which the manual and other references stated. Then that plug somehow became "Mini" and the "Micro" is now a different one. I remembered I wanted to buy another charger on Amazon a year or so after getting the phone and was very confused until I figured out that they changed the name.
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Don't we all have a DNA who ever is posting in this thread no reason at all to upgrade because it's not an upgrade except for the camera.
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Yeah, I'll take the plastic. It might scratch easier, but I like the feel of the DNA and the plastic protects the internals more from the shocks of impacts.
Maybe it's because my first phone was an HTC, but I always find myself rooting (oh, the puns) for them. I guess it's the whole underdog thing. But they need to ditch the carrier exclusive nonsense. There should be a flagship device pushed out across the bigger carriers, and that's that.
I have the thunderbolt, and my memory isn't short. I ask myself what will happen in 2 years with this phone? I'm still waiting for ICS on my bolt. What assurance do I have that the DNA or any subsequent phone wont end up in the same boat after the initial craze dies down?
Duely blundered from my thunderdolt.
I expected this device next year with a better camera and krait v3 process. I don't know why everyone is bashing HTC. The DNA was a Verizon and Japan exclusive just for the winter to compete with note 2. This device is going to compete with galaxy s4 the reason why they released the DNA and butterfly this year and exclusive is because if this was international then next year they would have had to release another phone with a better camera and processor to compete with galaxy s4.
The fact that they have done the national beta release and an official international release they have avoided the mistake they made with sensation-xe and one x+x+. Rather this time they have released the next year flagship exclusive to see what the flaws are so next year it will not be hit and miss like the one x. They have also got a new marketing VP so it looks Like they are taking things seriously. Some people on Xda need to stop bashing HTC as their flagship cycle has changed for the better the people who bought the DNA are stupid if they wanted this as they should have waited.
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don't know.... the name's m7, to me that sounds like tablet area, if not, it's probably the eu version of the dna, like the codename for the one x is endeavor it's probably something like that, what was once being rumored as the htc zeta is today the dna 5inch qualcomm quad and all.
Thats upsetting, but this is the way of the smartphone world and always will be. I wonder if the camera will be much better?
Hopefully it comes out in the next 14 days so I can exchange my DNA LOL.
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Hopefully it comes out in the next 14 days so I can exchange my DNA LOL.
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Shame on u lol
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... to HTC mid-ranged phones, states as INCLUDING the Droid DNA on VZW..
It looks like a couple of the HTC One’s flagship features will also be finding their way to HTC’s future mid-ranged devices. Phil Roberson, the head of HTC UK and Ireland, stated that HTC’s Blinkfeed and Ultrapixel services will be available for as many of its devices as possible. He says, “Wherever the technology is possible, we’re looking to take as much of the technology and enrich all of our customers.”
This is great news for consumers who love the new features of the HTC One, but do not have the money to opt for such a high-end device. This also follows last week’s good news when HTC announced that owners of the HTC One X+, HTC One X, HTC One S, and the HTC Butterfly (HTC DROID DNA on Verizon Wireless) will be upgraded to Sense 5 in the future. HTC is doing a great job at making all of its customers feel included.
Blinkfeed, a beautiful RSS news feed available right from the screen of your phone, is most likely to be available for most HTC smartphones because its all software based. Getting Ultrapixel, HTC’s own branded camera technology, into mid-ranged devices may be a bit trickier however. Roberson stated, “There will be certain technical challenges, but the tech does support the other elements of it which we can take to other parts of the portfolio.”
The HTC One is HTC’s last shot at launching itself out of the financial hole that its currently in. It features impressive specs, like a 4.7-inch HD display and a quad-core Snapdragon 600 processor. It’s flagship features like Blinkfeed, Ultrapixel, and Sense 5 should also help make it stand out in the market. It’s also good to know that even though it’ll be focusing all of its marketing efforts on the HTC One, HTC won’t be neglecting its future mid-tier devices.
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see story here on slashgear: LINK
and awesome for us DNA
I'm sure we'll have a port long before anything official, if we even get it officially.
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Sense 5 looks amazingly clean.
You'll probably see Sense 5, but without anything that needs the ImageChip 2.
Ultra pixel is a hardware thing, it has nothing to do with the software of the phone.
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As much as id love to see it, slashgear is on crack. It mentioned the international variety of the butterfly, never mentioned DNA. We'll see ports long before and official leak of a build, and VZW will a Never approve that update.
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Ultra pixel is a hardware thing, it has nothing to do with the software of the phone.
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Yeah I know that, but this part of the article intrigues me:
"Getting Ultrapixel, HTC’s own branded camera technology, into mid-ranged devices may be a bit trickier however. Roberson stated, “There will be certain technical challenges, but the tech does support the other elements of it which we can take to other parts of the portfolio.”"
so I mean a software update isn't going to make our phones *grow* a few more 4mp sensors, but if better technology from their new camera can be implemented into our cameras (where there is room for improvement), than more power to them.
I kinda want to know why the DNA is considered a mid range phone.
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I kinda want to know why the DNA is considered a mid range phone.
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That's a good point actually... I mean as far as I'm concerned... the One has a faster clocked cpu (but same base cpu?)
completely new camera, slightly smaller screen w/same resolution, front mounted dual speakers... and what else really? It's not like the jump from an inc2 to a rezound... I think they just nested the DNA with any phone that's not the One, tbh, and threw the tag "mid-range" onto it
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That's a good point actually... I mean as far as I'm concerned... the One has a faster clocked cpu (but same base cpu?)
completely new camera, slightly smaller screen w/same resolution, front mounted dual speakers... and what else really? It's not like the jump from an inc2 to a rezound... I think they just nested the DNA with any phone that's not the One, tbh, and threw the tag "mid-range" onto it
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The camera is LEAPS AND BOUNDS better. You also forgot larger storage which is a major problem for the DNA in the eyes of many users, in most cases causing them to keep their Samsung SGS3 or Note 2. Not to mention software will always be out first on the flagship, plus you get it right away.
I recently made a post on here arguing why I would never get the M7 (One) and was not going to sacrifice .3" of screen real estate etc, but after seeing all of the hands on videos I am hooked on it.
I love the look of the black one so much! - It is definitely not a MAJOR upgrade internally but it is CERTAINLY a better phone than the DNA on paper and due to the nature of the videos.
Not only that, it will be released globally and will for sure have more development. Not that what we have is bad, it can always be better and flourish faster. The only thing I will hate if I upgrade to this phone is waiting for the hacks to use the phone
x70xchallengerx said:
Yeah I know that, but this part of the article intrigues me:
"Getting Ultrapixel, HTC’s own branded camera technology, into mid-ranged devices may be a bit trickier however. Roberson stated, “There will be certain technical challenges, but the tech does support the other elements of it which we can take to other parts of the portfolio.”"
so I mean a software update isn't going to make our phones *grow* a few more 4mp sensors, but if better technology from their new camera can be implemented into our cameras (where there is room for improvement), than more power to them.
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It's talking about future devices, not currently devices.
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A little birdie mentioned to me in passing today that the first test sense5 android 4.1.2 entered Verizon testing a few days ago
What does that mean to us?
Honestly, who knows....Verizon could take months of testing and rejections and resubmissions by HTC before its officially out...at which point many users could be running stable ports for awhile
But nice to know its not "well yeah one day maybe we will update this phone" and in the meantime they forget about it
Do you guys know if the port for sense 5 for the DNA will support Zoe & Zoe Share? It seems like a software feature... but maybe not?
Right now I still think the DNA is better because its got wireless charging.... but if the port wont support zoe share I may switch to the HTC one.
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A little birdie mentioned to me in passing today that the first test sense5 android 4.1.2 entered Verizon testing a few days ago
What does that mean to us?
Honestly, who knows....Verizon could take months of testing and rejections and resubmissions by HTC before its officially out...at which point many users could be running stable ports for awhile
But nice to know its not "well yeah one day maybe we will update this phone" and in the meantime they forget about it
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An exciting future for ViperDNA
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Here's some more info about HTC 5 from Rootzwiki
hello guys...
a pleasant day, now i just found that this mobile down to cheapest price but good in specs...
is this good and worth to buy now? and on what update version of android does this one have?
im not sure which is good and difference between one x and one x+ its just like attractive with 32 gb internal..
pls help me decide on its usage and durabilty now a days...
big thanks guys...
-dennis...
Its a totally awesome phone. Most htc phones have something about them that is noticeably lacking... But not this model. Even today it is just a kick ass device.
But whatever you do, don't buy the attached version. There is a reason they are $100 cheaper on eBay. Basically ZERO Dev support. The international version gets all the goods. Sucks too because the att version works at full speed with any gsm carrier
Buy it dude!! HOX+ is one of the legendary devices.. It's camera is excellent.. on par with the current generation devices..
But on the other side, HOX+ will eventually lose its battery backup capacity easily.. and it becomes hot on continuos usage.. so think carefully before you buy..
'Be careful what you wish for'
Good luck:laugh:
shodenskie said:
hello guys...
a pleasant day, now i just found that this mobile down to cheapest price but good in specs...
is this good and worth to buy now? and on what update version of android does this one have?
im not sure which is good and difference between one x and one x+ its just like attractive with 32 gb internal..
pls help me decide on its usage and durabilty now a days...
big thanks guys...
-dennis...
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Dont even bother buying this device , i have the AT&T version 64 GB , camera sucks on both INT and At&t , and the device also heats up on games. I have rooted and using custom rom. Buy some new cellphones. Further it had Tegra3 for which there are no more updates available. Its processor is based on 40nm die architecture which is old. Dont buy cellphones with Nvidia Chipsets.
Optimus said:
Dont even bother buying this device , i have the AT&T version 64 GB , camera sucks on both INT and At&t , and the device also heats up on games. I have rooted and using custom rom. Buy some new cellphones. Further it had Tegra3 for which there are no more updates available. Its processor is based on 40nm die architecture which is old. Dont buy cellphones with Nvidia Chipsets.
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It's a great phone, I've always loved it. But there are better phones, many.
True about the Tegra 3, it heats up while gaming. Battery life is not that great (especially on mine, 2yo).
Camera is acceptable, but I wouldn't call it great. The screen however, is like one of best out there.
Differences between the One X and the One X+ is the internal memory and an upgraded Tegra 3 (for the +).
Additionally also Glosnass support for the +
It's old tech, wouldn't buy it right now. Buy a new generation phone with a newer processor, because the nVidia chipset in this one is outdated.
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Dont even bother buying this device , i have the AT&T version 64 GB , camera sucks on both INT and At&t , and the device also heats up on games. I have rooted and using custom rom. Buy some new cellphones. Further it had Tegra3 for which there are no more updates available. Its processor is based on 40nm die architecture which is old. Dont buy cellphones with Nvidia Chipsets.
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You must be sick to be recommending not buying Nvidia chipsets. Tegra 3 is one of the best GPUs available right now leaving alone the Tegra 4 which is only available on the Nvidia Shield and other limited number of devices.
I've used some varieties of cell phones and i've found the camera quality one of the best in this device. Running a quad core clocked at 1.7 Ghz and expecting it to not heat up? You must be bull****ting here.
Please dont defame a good phone just because you don't like it for some frickin reason.
Buddy you should update yourself since this phone is stuck at 4.2.2 while Samsung S3 is getting kitkat updates. Further huawei P7 doesnt even heat up on games like San Andreas since my friend and i compared it. One x + no doubt is a lovely phone but please in 2014 dont buy it. Further game experience is laggy. I am using it so i know better..
Goodluck.
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You must be sick to be recommending not buying Nvidia chipsets. Tegra 3 is one of the best GPUs available right now leaving alone the Tegra 4 which is only available on the Nvidia Shield and other limited number of devices.
I've used some varieties of cell phones and i've found the camera quality one of the best in this device. Running a quad core clocked at 1.7 Ghz and expecting it to not heat up? You must be bull****ting here.
Please dont defame a good phone just because you don't like it for some frickin reason.
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Dude, Dont buy.
buy Tegra only with nexus devices otherwise screw NVIDIA.
oh!
Whatever! It's a very nice device.. Just buy it..! :laugh:
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You must be sick to be recommending not buying Nvidia chipsets. Tegra 3 is one of the best GPUs available right now leaving alone the Tegra 4 which is only available on the Nvidia Shield and other limited number of devices.
I've used some varieties of cell phones and i've found the camera quality one of the best in this device. Running a quad core clocked at 1.7 Ghz and expecting it to not heat up? You must be bull****ting here.
Please dont defame a good phone just because you don't like it for some frickin reason.
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It's actually one of the worst now. There are better devices than the X+ by miles. It's based on 2/3? Year old technology. The device is now pretty much classed low or barely middle class, due to no more driver support also we are running on an old kernel with little hope of seeing a recent one... IMO if someone has a choice of devices to get, this one wouldn't be on that list.
Not really
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It's actually one of the worst now. There are better devices than the X+ by miles. It's based on 2/3? Year old technology. The device is now pretty much classed low or barely middle class, due to no more driver support also we are running on an old kernel with little hope of seeing a recent one... IMO if someone has a choice of devices to get, this one wouldn't be on that list.
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You are bound to make such remarks when you compare old technologies with the new ones. If adopting your terminologies, it should imply that every device should be called as "low class" and/or "worst" at some point of time which is very inappropriate and misleading. You make it sound like upgrading a desktop computer all the time whenever a new hardware peripheral arrives.
In 2004, a set of several devices were released namely HTC Magician, I-Mate JAM, O2 XDA II-Mini and others which took about 3-5 years for them to develop. Later on, upgrading and upscaling to newer models took hardly 1-2 years. Apple's Iphone has had a similar story. In this respect, we should appreciate the older devices more in terms of advent and innovation, otherwise we woudn't have been here fiddling with our quad-cored phones( And Octas ). Personally, I-Mate JAM and Nokia Communicator 9500 are the best devices i've ever had and the older technology does not make it any different. Also, i believe that the older devices had some undefined quality which many people agree with.
In the same principles, there are some devices which some users like and prefer regardless of the fact that whether the company has stopped providing updates and/or support or not. There are too many factors to take into account other than the technology. Speaking in terms of benchmark and power, my preferred devices would easily give up before yours.
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You are bound to make such remarks when you compare old technologies with the new ones. If adopting your terminologies, it should imply that every device should be called as "low class" and/or "worst" at some point of time which is very inappropriate and misleading. You make it sound like upgrading a desktop computer all the time whenever a new hardware peripheral arrives.
In 2004, a set of several devices were released namely HTC Magician, I-Mate JAM, O2 XDA II-Mini and others which took about 3-5 years for them to develop. Later on, upgrading and upscaling to newer models took hardly 1-2 years. Apple's Iphone has had a similar story. In this respect, we should appreciate the older devices more in terms of advent and innovation, otherwise we woudn't have been here fiddling with our quad-cored phones( And Octas ). Personally, I-Mate JAM and Nokia Communicator 9500 are the best devices i've ever had and the older technology does not make it any different. Also, i believe that the older devices had some undefined quality which many people agree with.
In the same principles, there are some devices which some users like and prefer regardless of the fact that whether the company has stopped providing updates and/or support or not. There are too many factors to take into account other than the technology. Speaking in terms of benchmark and power, my preferred devices would easily give up before yours.
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Well to expand on we have both said, when a new "high end" device comes out, the older one goes to the low/mid of the high scale then just drops down.....It's how I view it anyway, like the ONE X that was king once upon a time....Now that and with the X+ it's essentially great for a backup (Also the X+ is great for backup). But this is all my opinion on it all, everyone will have different takes on it so I don't want to force my view point. In a way though we are both right.
But hey my devices are a
Nokia 3310
HTC Desire C
X+
Find 5
all have their pro's and con's though more con's for the 1st two
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Well to expand on we have both said, when a new "high end" device comes out, the older one goes to the low/mid of the high scale then just drops down.....It's how I view it anyway, like the ONE X that was king once upon a time....Now that and with the X+ it's essentially great for a backup (Also the X+ is great for backup). But this is all my opinion on it all, everyone will have different takes on it so I don't want to force my view point. In a way though we are both right.
But hey my devices are a
Nokia 3310
HTC Desire C
X+
Find 5
all have their pro's and con's though more con's for the 1st two
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That is very understandable. Different people look at different things differently. Depends on the user's perception because many would support your beliefs and many would mine as well. And we should expect that from a benchmark-hungry developer like you. Developments in technology open gates for you, so yes you should be craving for better devices now and then.
I feel ashamed, knowing the fact that i own more devices than you but am not really a developer. As they say, quantity deceives quality. BTW my old man still loves his Nokia 5190.
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That is very understandable. Different people look at different things differently. Depends on the user's perception because many would support your beliefs and many would mine as well. And we should expect that from a benchmark-hungry developer like you. Developments in technology open gates for you, so yes you should be craving for better devices now and then.
I feel ashamed, knowing the fact that i own more devices than you but am not really a developer. As they say, quantity deceives quality. BTW my old man still loves his Nokia 5190.
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I used to have a lot more, but I sold them, including my Nexus 5 my One V HTC Desire HTC Wildfire ZTE BLADE Iphone 3gs to name a few victims in my quest for not being bored
Also benchmarks? PFFFT fcuk those, the real benchmarks come from using the device properly not from some stupid app(s)
Lloir said:
I used to have a lot more, but I sold them, including my Nexus 5 my One V HTC Desire HTC Wildfire ZTE BLADE Iphone 3gs to name a few victims in my quest for not being bored
Also benchmarks? PFFFT fcuk those, the real benchmarks come from using the device properly not from some stupid app(s)
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Is it just me or do you really sound like a kid?
Haha, yes i mean "Power-hungry" by "benchmark" because that is exactly what keeps some people going!
Electronic hobbyists like me have entirely different tastes.
BTW, i just flashed your latest nightly yesternight and need to take my precious ass over that CM11 thread there to discuss some issues.
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Is it just me or do you really sound like a kid?
Haha, yes i mean "Power-hungry" by "benchmark" because that is exactly what keeps some people going!
Electronic hobbyists like me have entirely different tastes.
BTW, i just flashed your latest nightly yesternight and need to take my precious ass over that CM11 thread there to discuss some issues.
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I'm a kid at heart and always will be, can't be doing with the whole growing up thing
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I'm a kid at heart and always will be, can't be doing with the whole growing up thing
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So, how old are you and what are you doing professionally? Should never judge a book by it's cover - for both of us.
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So, how old are you and what are you doing professionally? Should never judge a book by it's cover - for both of us.
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28 and soon to be a Network/Computer security person.
Lloir said:
28 and soon to be a Network/Computer security person.
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That is great. :good:
Just want you to know something. Don't always be so full of yourself and be nice to those who are nice to you.