... to HTC mid-ranged phones, states as INCLUDING the Droid DNA on VZW..
It looks like a couple of the HTC One’s flagship features will also be finding their way to HTC’s future mid-ranged devices. Phil Roberson, the head of HTC UK and Ireland, stated that HTC’s Blinkfeed and Ultrapixel services will be available for as many of its devices as possible. He says, “Wherever the technology is possible, we’re looking to take as much of the technology and enrich all of our customers.”
This is great news for consumers who love the new features of the HTC One, but do not have the money to opt for such a high-end device. This also follows last week’s good news when HTC announced that owners of the HTC One X+, HTC One X, HTC One S, and the HTC Butterfly (HTC DROID DNA on Verizon Wireless) will be upgraded to Sense 5 in the future. HTC is doing a great job at making all of its customers feel included.
Blinkfeed, a beautiful RSS news feed available right from the screen of your phone, is most likely to be available for most HTC smartphones because its all software based. Getting Ultrapixel, HTC’s own branded camera technology, into mid-ranged devices may be a bit trickier however. Roberson stated, “There will be certain technical challenges, but the tech does support the other elements of it which we can take to other parts of the portfolio.”
The HTC One is HTC’s last shot at launching itself out of the financial hole that its currently in. It features impressive specs, like a 4.7-inch HD display and a quad-core Snapdragon 600 processor. It’s flagship features like Blinkfeed, Ultrapixel, and Sense 5 should also help make it stand out in the market. It’s also good to know that even though it’ll be focusing all of its marketing efforts on the HTC One, HTC won’t be neglecting its future mid-tier devices.
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see story here on slashgear: LINK
and awesome for us DNA
I'm sure we'll have a port long before anything official, if we even get it officially.
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Sense 5 looks amazingly clean.
You'll probably see Sense 5, but without anything that needs the ImageChip 2.
Ultra pixel is a hardware thing, it has nothing to do with the software of the phone.
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As much as id love to see it, slashgear is on crack. It mentioned the international variety of the butterfly, never mentioned DNA. We'll see ports long before and official leak of a build, and VZW will a Never approve that update.
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Ultra pixel is a hardware thing, it has nothing to do with the software of the phone.
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Yeah I know that, but this part of the article intrigues me:
"Getting Ultrapixel, HTC’s own branded camera technology, into mid-ranged devices may be a bit trickier however. Roberson stated, “There will be certain technical challenges, but the tech does support the other elements of it which we can take to other parts of the portfolio.”"
so I mean a software update isn't going to make our phones *grow* a few more 4mp sensors, but if better technology from their new camera can be implemented into our cameras (where there is room for improvement), than more power to them.
I kinda want to know why the DNA is considered a mid range phone.
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I kinda want to know why the DNA is considered a mid range phone.
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That's a good point actually... I mean as far as I'm concerned... the One has a faster clocked cpu (but same base cpu?)
completely new camera, slightly smaller screen w/same resolution, front mounted dual speakers... and what else really? It's not like the jump from an inc2 to a rezound... I think they just nested the DNA with any phone that's not the One, tbh, and threw the tag "mid-range" onto it
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That's a good point actually... I mean as far as I'm concerned... the One has a faster clocked cpu (but same base cpu?)
completely new camera, slightly smaller screen w/same resolution, front mounted dual speakers... and what else really? It's not like the jump from an inc2 to a rezound... I think they just nested the DNA with any phone that's not the One, tbh, and threw the tag "mid-range" onto it
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The camera is LEAPS AND BOUNDS better. You also forgot larger storage which is a major problem for the DNA in the eyes of many users, in most cases causing them to keep their Samsung SGS3 or Note 2. Not to mention software will always be out first on the flagship, plus you get it right away.
I recently made a post on here arguing why I would never get the M7 (One) and was not going to sacrifice .3" of screen real estate etc, but after seeing all of the hands on videos I am hooked on it.
I love the look of the black one so much! - It is definitely not a MAJOR upgrade internally but it is CERTAINLY a better phone than the DNA on paper and due to the nature of the videos.
Not only that, it will be released globally and will for sure have more development. Not that what we have is bad, it can always be better and flourish faster. The only thing I will hate if I upgrade to this phone is waiting for the hacks to use the phone
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Yeah I know that, but this part of the article intrigues me:
"Getting Ultrapixel, HTC’s own branded camera technology, into mid-ranged devices may be a bit trickier however. Roberson stated, “There will be certain technical challenges, but the tech does support the other elements of it which we can take to other parts of the portfolio.”"
so I mean a software update isn't going to make our phones *grow* a few more 4mp sensors, but if better technology from their new camera can be implemented into our cameras (where there is room for improvement), than more power to them.
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It's talking about future devices, not currently devices.
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A little birdie mentioned to me in passing today that the first test sense5 android 4.1.2 entered Verizon testing a few days ago
What does that mean to us?
Honestly, who knows....Verizon could take months of testing and rejections and resubmissions by HTC before its officially out...at which point many users could be running stable ports for awhile
But nice to know its not "well yeah one day maybe we will update this phone" and in the meantime they forget about it
Do you guys know if the port for sense 5 for the DNA will support Zoe & Zoe Share? It seems like a software feature... but maybe not?
Right now I still think the DNA is better because its got wireless charging.... but if the port wont support zoe share I may switch to the HTC one.
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A little birdie mentioned to me in passing today that the first test sense5 android 4.1.2 entered Verizon testing a few days ago
What does that mean to us?
Honestly, who knows....Verizon could take months of testing and rejections and resubmissions by HTC before its officially out...at which point many users could be running stable ports for awhile
But nice to know its not "well yeah one day maybe we will update this phone" and in the meantime they forget about it
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An exciting future for ViperDNA
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Here's some more info about HTC 5 from Rootzwiki
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So, after MUCH agonizing (like I'm sure a lot of you have done/are doing), I've decided to go with the Evo 4G LTE over the Galaxy Nexus. Physically, I think the simplicity of the GN design is way sexy (particularly like the slight curve of the phone, helps fit to your face while talking), but the unibody metal of the Evo and the kickstand are way awesome (although I'm not particularly fond of the shiny plastic top third of the back).
In terms of the vanilla ICS vs. Sense 4, what finally helped me make the decision was running CM9 for a little while, then running Virus' Sense 4.0 ROM. I certainly do love AOSP ICS, its quite speedy and responsive, and most of the features & widgets from Sense have some counterpart in the market available. However, coming from the OG Evo, and now the 3D, I've always found myself going back to Sense in the end, no matter how many ROMs I've tried. Plus, this version really is quite light over ICS, and much of the AOSP feel comes through beautifully.
The main downside I'm concerned about is the potential delay with OS updates (even though JB, as I understand it, will be 4.1 and primarily introduce the first iteration of Google Assistant). I was concerned about the locked HTC bootloader vs. the developer friendly GN, but considering the phone hasn't even been officially released to the wild and there's already root access and custom ROMs (although no S-OFF yet), I have faith in the dev community flourishing.
Dunno if this'll give any insight whatsoever into anybody else, but I'm happy to have finally made a choice!
I think whatever phone you prefer in its stock form is the one to go with. I love the gnex and it's quick updates along with easily unlockable appease but hardwire it is behind the EVO LTE. That said I wouldn't buy the EVO LTE because I truly dislike sense. I wouldn't buy either phone myself. But that's just it, that's android, we as consumers can choose to buy the newest phone or just wait for the one that meets our needs! I'd love to HAVE the EVO LTE or gnex right now, however using my upgrade one either one isn't something I'm comfortable with.
So tldr I'm happy for any fellow android user regardless of the phone they have just as they should be with the next man.
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No LTE on Sprint. I think One X is the phone to get.
Truth in that. While I have a MacBook (for music/design) and iPad (for music/general net access & reading), I dont think I could ever get down with an iPhone. Android's greatest strength is its variety and flexibility in being a unique, personalized phone for the end user. Within the capabilities of the hardware we choose, we can make our devices do almost anything. I absolutely AGONIZED over what to get, and was on the verge of holding out and getting nothing, but I want to go ahead and push forward with the Evo LTE. Also helps that I have two other lines on my account that are due for upgrades next June, so I'll have an opportunity to move to whatever new hotness is around then
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No LTE on Sprint. I think One X is the phone to get.
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The Evo LTE is an improved version of the One X though...
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The Evo LTE is an improved version of the One X though...
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QTF!
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I've been struggling with this as well since I found out yesterday that as of today I'm eligible to sign another two year contract. I thought I would have to wait until october but apparently not lol.
I absolutely love the design of the galaxy nexus and stock android kicks ass. I put a fairly stockish rom on my friends nexus and already its faster than my evo. I love the screen too. But its based on last years technology. The evo lte is a great phone and all but the design isn't uniform enough for me. It's like they had a bunch of different ideas and just threw them all together. While its very fast, I don't feel like its worth locking myself in for another two years for it. It's only an incremental upgrade over the 3d imo.
I want to wait for the quad core Qualcomm s4 with the adreno 320 gpu, and I wouldnt mind a 720p super amoled plus display. I would prefer a nexus device as I love stock android. Less bloat, uniform ui design, faster. And if the next one looks anything like the galaxy nexus I'll jump all over it. But who knows when those next gen of phones will come out, and if they will come to sprint in a reasonable amount of time.I hate waiting when I can upgrade now lol
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I think you've made the right choice. Don't concern yourself too much about update IMO. Lots of devs here that I'm sure will have that phone and as far as HTC updating to JB, to me as long as ICS runs great then why bother with JB. By the time JB matures I'm sure there will be other devices out. But I really dont see anything wrong with ICS. So better screen, better camera, newer device, and sense (which you prefer).
For me I'm kinda waiting for GS3 then I'll decide between that and Evo LTE.
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The Evo LTE is an improved version of the One X though...
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it's different not improved.
more SD space on Evo is necessary because of the ****ty upload speeds. on One X with ATT's upload speed I can use my Box (50 GB) or Dropbox (25 GB) accounts to uplad my data and have it saved and shared.
the metal will loose it's color due to chipping, just like on evo 3D. this won't be a problem on One X.
2 things i would miss is the shutter button and kickstand. kickstand can be gained by getting cases that already include them. Shutter button, oh well.....
At least i can enjoy a phone that has reception and quick data speeds.
How long will your data cap hold out doing all the uploading and downloading? Even if you're grandfathered into an unlimited plan they still throttle after so many gb's. Should stick a straight Talk sim in there and get real unlimited for half the price on the same network.
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It's only an incremental upgrade over the 3d imo.
I want to wait for the quad core Qualcomm s4 with the adreno 320 gpu, and I wouldnt mind a 720p super amoled plus display. Sent from my PG86100 using XDA
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I can only say that by your logic any new phone from an existing manufacturer is considered incremental then?
Bigger size, more powerful chips, LTE enabled, higher resolution SLCD HD screen, newest Android OS sounds like a lot more than "incremental".
Or is the Galaxy S3 also just an "incremental" upgrade from the E4GT?
Wouldn't the "next Nexus" you're waiting for just be an incremental upgrade from the current one? All that'll likely change there is the chipset unless JB is released by then.....it'll be similar sized, same resolution, etc....
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I can only say that by your logic any new phone from an existing manufacturer is considered incremental then?
Bigger size, more powerful chips, LTE enabled, higher resolution SLCD HD screen, newest Android OS sounds like a lot more than "incremental".
Or is the Galaxy S3 also just an "incremental" upgrade from the E4GT?
Wouldn't the "next Nexus" you're waiting for just be an incremental upgrade from the current one? All that'll likely change there is the chipset unless JB is released by then.....it'll be similar sized, same resolution, etc....
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No. For example the Galaxy S III, I would be all over that if the american version came with the quad core exynos and LTE. But it doesn't. That processor is beast, and already surpasses the qualcomm S4. And I'd love it even more if it came in the same package as the Galaxy Nexus.
As far as the Evo LTE, yes it's faster, has a better screen, and is LTE enabled. But I won't have LTE until the end of this year in my market, and I already had the latest Android OS, ICS. I think Sense 4 is over rated tbh, and yes I have tried it out. Plus the looks don't sit quite right with me. One thing I love about the Nexus is that it's just so sleek and simple, and that makes it sexy. The front is completely blacked out to the point that you can't really tell where the screen ends and where the rest of the face begins. The Evo LTE has like 5 different designs going on. Brushed aluminum sides, matte black bottom backing, glossy black top backing, anodized red aluminum stripe for the kick stand, and cheap plastic for the power/volume buttons (which I have learned to HATE on my old Evo 4G and my 3D). It's like the designers couldn't decide what to go with and just said hey **** it we'll put all of them together!
And it's not like my Evo 3D is slow right now. It's still chewing through everything I throw at it (thank you mikey for MeanROM).
I just can't get myself to lock into another 2 year contract knowing that the next gen of technology is right around the corner (IE, Q3/Q4 of this year). Specifically talking about the quad core qualcomm S4 with the adreno 320 GPU. That will offer a HUGE increase in performance over what I have now and that, I will have no problem signing a contract for. Especially if it's in a Nexus phone that offers pure android. Also it would be nice if it supported Sprint's 800 mhz LTE that they will roll out in 2013/2014.
http://www.gsmarena.com/newscomm-5003.php
maybe its cos the sdcard card and small battery ?
what else ?
People are drinking the Apple and Samsung kool-aid
Made some terrible decisions, invested heavily in audio beats. Got very complacent and gave the initiative to Samsung who took it both hands and ran with it.
Launched poor products no sd card, no removable battery latter not end of the word.
HTC one x was good but they shot themselves in the foot by not including ext sd card.
HTC will have to get a move on with htc j butterfly if they want to win back their fans from Samsung.
HTC J butterfly can turn it around for them if they sort themselves out.
I would go back to htc in a flash since their products look better then the plastic polished crap Samsung use.
btw I'm using galaxy note 2, best phone on the market, which I'm very happy with but hate the plastic crap.
Samsung and Apple both produce one core line of phone and push it across all carriers, at least for their main line phone. HTC produces custom phones and is inconsistent with there phones. They've produced top, middle and bottom tier phones which give consumers mixed feelings and not a consistent experience access the board. I think Samsung has done better at marketing to. HTC has great phones, and I believe the Chinese government will prop them up if they have to, they will bounce back.
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I'm glad this is happening because its going to force HTC to do what they used to do. Make phones that completely outmatched the competition. And when that happens and it will I'll gladly return.
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I think.its because they have too many phones, they need one phone on all carriers
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I think.its because they have too many phones, they need one phone on all carriers
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You right there HTC did spread themselves bit thin last year.
Focus one tablet, phablet, phone and that's it. I'm sure they will win over business unless Samsung drop their plastic craps.
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Poor business decisions and diminishing quality control will do that
Just basing this comment on some of my own experiences. I've never owned a Samsung so I can only go from what I've read/heard.
Currently on a Rezound and prior to that was the Dinc, Droid X2, Droid 2 Global and OG Droid (no particular order) Oh and the wife's iPhone 4S. Now some of my reasons, this is by far the WORST battery I have ever had. The Dinc wasn't terrible but I did expect more.
I believe part of the reason is the overlay of Sense. I loved it when I first used it now I'm just tired of it and I'm sure others are as well. You don't get the true experience of the Android OS which is extremely noticeable with the release of ICS. Lets not forget if your running true ICS and what a little Sense flavor there are countless Widgets to download.
Pile on everything mentioned above and you have a receipe for disaster.
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Typically, profits fall when a number of situations occur, all of which affect the bottom line and make investors unhappy.
1 - Fixed costs are too high relative to sales - the cost of running the business (people's salaries and benefits, office space, etc.)
2 - Sales are lower than forecasts - competitors took market share away that HTC was planning on having but didn't get (Apple, Samsung, etc.)
A way to offset high fixed costs is to move jobs to countries where labor costs are lower for salaried and hourly jobs. The trend with tech companies is to establish facilities in China near the supply base. Not only do you reduce fixed costs, but you also reduce freight costs - freight on board is reduced (the transit time for inbound materials to the manufacturing facilities is significantly reduced so money isn't tied up into materials while the materials are being shipped point to point), expediting costs aren't as much of a necessity because materials aren't traveling half way around the world if production was in North America but materials are coming from Taiwan for example... There are a lot of pluses from a corporate profit standpoint as you can see.
When sales are lower than forecasts, quarterly earnings targets are missed and investors never like to see that. Investors have a major interest in quarterly projections and in companies being able to hit their targets. Investors are very quick to leap to conclusions about a company's future when a quarterly report announces that targets have been missed. Stock prices are adversely affected and investors look at other options that can make them more money. If quarter after quarter, the story continues to be consistent, the company's Board of Directors starts to get antsy and they put major pressure on the CEO and CFO to get back on track. Many C-level executives lose their jobs because of quarterly and annual losses. Talk about pressure!
Investors want to see profits that not only meet expectation, but they also want to see smart decisions being made for long term profitability. I haven't personally followed HTC's news but I'm concerned with the recent declaration that HTC isn't doing well financially. I'll be checking out some facts this weekend so thanks for the post!
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You right there HTC did spread themselves bit thin last year.
Focus one tablet, phablet, phone and that's it. I'm sure they will win over business unless Samsung drop their plastic craps.
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I completely agree. I think it's the main problem with Android distribution method. If each carrier only had a handful of devices, the better.
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I completely agree. I think it's the main problem with Android distribution method. If each carrier only had a handful of devices, the better.
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I agree with this. If HTC went to a few flagship models, and they used those hardware models for all the carriers, they could focus more on getting those smartphones right, with both hardware and software.
I know people don't want to hear this but as someone who absolutely loves Android, I still feel that apple makes a hell of a device. I would like to see HTC use the resources that are so spread out currently, and focus on making a few top tier phones that are of that same build quality as the iPhone or the couple of Android phones that came close over the years.
But I also feel that way about Android in general. I would like to see Google start to have higher standards for devices from manufacturers, and instead of making android work good on a million and one devices, make it work incredibly well on a smaller number of devices.
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Just basing this comment on some of my own experiences. I've never owned a Samsung so I can only go from what I've read/heard.
Currently on a Rezound and prior to that was the Dinc, Droid X2, Droid 2 Global and OG Droid (no particular order) Oh and the wife's iPhone 4S. Now some of my reasons, this is by far the WORST battery I have ever had. The Dinc wasn't terrible but I did expect more.
I believe part of the reason is the overlay of Sense. I loved it when I first used it now I'm just tired of it and I'm sure others are as well. You don't get the true experience of the Android OS which is extremely noticeable with the release of ICS. Lets not forget if your running true ICS and what a little Sense flavor there are countless Widgets to download.
Pile on everything mentioned above and you have a receipe for disaster.
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You're on XDA and there are 99% stable AOSP ROMs available. Get on it
Too many android devices. With every different brand putting out new phones every couple months, there will be large fluctuation in any company profits.
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You're on XDA and there are 99% stable AOSP ROMs available. Get on it
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He means straight out of the box.
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I agree with this. If HTC went to a few flagship models, and they used those hardware models for all the carriers, they could focus more on getting those smartphones right, with both hardware and software.
I know people don't want to hear this but as someone who absolutely loves Android, I still feel that apple makes a hell of a device. I would like to see HTC use the resources that are so spread out currently, and focus on making a few top tier phones that are of that same build quality as the iPhone or the couple of Android phones that came close over the years.
But I also feel that way about Android in general. I would like to see Google start to have higher standards for devices from manufacturers, and instead of making android work good on a million and one devices, make it work incredibly well on a smaller number of devices.
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Nexus!
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He means straight out of the box.
Nexus!
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If HTC would have had better designs in the last year, Google would have picked them for the nexus 4
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So.....
Are any of you HOX+ owners tempted by the new HTC One?
I'm thinking about it but the lack 64gb is not helping.
So what about you?
I'm getting it in August when my contract is up and currently selling my HOX+ on eBay for a N4. I would say I'm pretty tempted
Edit: well it will depend on the development for the One. If it is locked down and has AOSP issues like this phone then I'm just gonna get the GS4.
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I'm pretty tempted to get it, but I'm also worried about the lack of dev support for the phone. With it being on multiple carriers, I don't see that being too huge of an issue, but my experience with a limited development phone (One X+) has shown me how much I truly need AOSP every now and then. If I see that it gets a lot of development within the first month release, I just may have to go with it. Plus, the dual front speakers are the perfect gimmick for a guy like me.
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I'm pretty tempted to get it, but I'm also worried about the lack of dev support for the phone. With it being on multiple carriers, I don't see that being too huge of an issue, but my experience with a limited development phone (One X+) has shown me how much I truly need AOSP every now and then. If I see that it gets a lot of development within the first month release, I just may have to go with it. Plus, the dual front speakers are the perfect gimmick for a guy like me.
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Exactly how I feel. The actual phone is good, but the lack of popularity is depressing for a stock Android fan.
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Exactly how I feel. The actual phone is good, but the lack of popularity is depressing for a stock Android fan.
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Totally agree. I just ordered my N4 and will sell my HOX+. I was thinking for a second to get the One but then I am again dependent on AT&T's updates and the dev community to get stock android. I gave the Hox+ a chance but I must admit I hate Sense. I don't use any of the features except the clock widget. It doesn't even sync the adressbook to my google account automatically. I like HTC's hardware but I don't like Sense and this won't change with Sense 5.
The ONE has better screen resolution, but only a 4 megapix camera, has 2 gigs ram, but only 26gig user memory, same size screen, it has 2300mah vs our 2100, 4.1.2, which we may get, both have a quad core 1.7. Honestly, I wouldn't buy it, based on lack of user storage and the camera. My one x+ is plenty fast enough with only 1gig ram, and the better screen resolution will be hardly noticeable on a 4.7" screen. I also have a sneaking suspicion HTC will be coming out with a ONE+ in the next few months or so. I was once a huge HTC fan, but as of late, it's seems like they're purposely making their phones worse so they can release "better" ones down the road. HTC knock it the FLIP off! If you wish to stand a chance against Samsung take everything that rocks with the one x+, camera, built in storage etc, and everything that rocks about the ONE, screen resolution, sense 5 (?) put it in one bad [email protected]# phone and call it a day for the next year or so. Stop this trying to make it better, by making the first release worse, crap.
Signed loyal consumer since the days of the G1, who may soon be switching to Samsung...
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The ONE has better screen resolution, but only a 4 megapix camera, has 2 gigs ram, but only 26gig user memory, same size screen, it has 2300mah vs our 2100, 4.1.2, which we may get, both have a quad core 1.7. Honestly, I wouldn't buy it, based on lack of user storage and the camera. My one x+ is plenty fast enough with only 1gig ram, and the better screen resolution will be hardly noticeable on a 4.7" screen. I also have a sneaking suspicion HTC will be coming out with a ONE+ in the next few months or so. I was once a huge HTC fan, but as of late, it's seems like they're purposely making their phones worse so they can release "better" ones down the road. HTC knock it the FLIP off! If you wish to stand a chance against Samsung take everything that rocks with the one x+, camera, built in storage etc, and everything that rocks about the ONE, screen resolution, sense 5 (?) put it in one bad [email protected]# phone and call it a day for the next year or so. Stop this trying to make it better, by making the first release worse, crap.
Signed loyal consumer since the days of the G1, who may soon be switching to Samsung...
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Everything else aside, boiling down the One's camera to simple "4 megapixel" doesn't really do it justice. They did some neat stuff with the camera sensor instead playing the "more pixels = more better" game. Read up on the One's camera, it's actually pretty cool.
If they release this in the Nexus variant I found my next device. First phone besides the S4 to catch my attention all year. Hoping Motorola makes an announcement soon so I can really weigh my options.
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/06/03/htc-one-on-verizon-is-official-coming-later-this-summer/
Woooo! Waiting on full details on this and Moto X phone for my decision!
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If they release this in the Nexus variant I found my next device. First phone besides the S4 to catch my attention all year. Hoping Motorola makes an announcement soon so I can really weigh my options.
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/06/03/htc-one-on-verizon-is-official-coming-later-this-summer/
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Glad to hear it's coming to Verizon, why would they release it as a Nexus variant though?
I'm getting this the moment it comes out.
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I'm getting this the moment it comes out.
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Oh yea!! Awesome!! I have $400 saved up on amazon specifically for this phone ha
That thing doesn't have an SD card right?
So my decision kinda goes down to front facing speakers, or an SD card.
Let the Exodus begin! I am so stoked about this. I have an upgrade available in August, but I will pay full price and save my unlimited data. Wahoo!
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Because they are releasing on on AT&T and the S4 will have one... Also, some folks love that...
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This upsets me. I just ordered an Samsung galaxy 4. But then again my last 2 HTC phones was the "best of the best and will be kept up with updates." And that never happened either :thumbdown:
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http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_might_release_aosp_rom_for_current_htc_one_owners-news-6132.php
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http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_might_release_aosp_rom_for_current_htc_one_owners-news-6132.php
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This might be enough to sway me back to htc...hmm balls in your court Motorola just plz have a 3300mah battery!
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Nice, if they do a Verizon version, should be plenty of AOSP to pick from I'd hope
So I guess this won't be a true Google nexus phone but just a phone to run aosp? It is nice they are looking in to the option of giving owners a choice of os. Might be the first steps in allowing us to flash what we want in the future. Might get this phone when released.
My question is why is it Google owns moto but they still haven't released a nexus phone?
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Glad to hear it's coming to Verizon, why would they release it as a Nexus variant though?
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Here is how I am looking at the Nexus program. I think that people are starting to buy Nexus phones like the Iphone. A single experience across a single platform. Jelly Bean finally made Android beautiful to look at and use and now people are catching on. Samsung was part of the Nexus experience for a long time, and they made a decent market out of it. With this in mind people are seeing the Nexus verisons advertised and the skins OEM use are cartoony, bulky, and don't carry 1 or 2 of Androids core features well after release. With the Nexus program more OEM's are seeing profitability probability from having these stock phones. It also will help them develop a more precise skin in using stock they will see what people like and build features off it while maintaining stock characteristics. Skins can be good Sense started off on the right foot, but has gotten farther and farther away from adding any new functions (Cough) Iphone (Cough) it used to be the best clock, weather, and calendar but as of JB stock is just as good and with Google unifying to the Card UI its feels so consistent across the phone, and skins just subtract from that when they aren't offering anything else that isn't better than or as good as stock.
Now for us, this is great news for the dev community if it means that the Nexus Updates are indeed coming from google. As we have come to terms with HTC just doesn't release source timely and with that in mind slows us down considerably. Now if Google is handling the updates they don't need to listen to HTC they can just post the source for the Nexus variant and we can build off that (not me I mean you) . This in theory should make getting AOSP roms built much faster and much stabler overall. because Even though our devs are great and our community is great JB will never exactly be 100% there. With this though we should see quicker builds, more stable builds, and increased longevity of our device.
I am excited, this looks good for us, and HTC. I know many of us came from the DINC and we all basically had the same idea about the Rez. I love this phone, but during the time I have had it HTC just seemed to be getting worse(along with verizon) but as of late I have been impressed. They seem to be really trying and the one is a combo of great design and great hardware as they always do. So I think this may be enough to keep my HTC loyalty from straying to a galaxy far far away.
Google never had to listen to the phone makers. The problem they had was with Verizon when they told Google CDMA was closed sourced and all updates had to go through them first. Anyone who owns a Verizon galaxy nexus knows how slow updates came when compared to their gsm counterpart. Any Google phone has nothing to do with the makers of the phone when it comes to the software.
Don't even try to compare the nexus line with the iPhone. Most people buys a nexus phone because you can root and customize the phone to their liking. Also to have updates to come quickly. People buys I phones for the name and that's it. Don't compare apples to oranges.
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Only so many users are looking to root the average end user is not looking for hacking capabilities. They are looking for an experience that is taken care of for them. Thats what the Iphone used to be, and that's what Android with Jelly Bean has become. People are moving to android for more reasons than hacking. They may be two different OS's, and two different Manufacturers but Google's nexus line is becoming mainstream now. There is no denying that. I know tons of people with Iphones that have bought a nexus 7 and really "enjoyed the interface" meaning Android is now as and more polished than the previous smartphone overlords at apple. Android is becoming a more powerful OS on its own premise than manufacturers and OEM skins.
Thats just my take though
For everyone that had a parent that would smack them one minute then hug them the next, I dare you to read on...
http://phandroid.com/2013/10/15/and...bile-htc-one-this-week-droid-dna-in-december/
Considering they promised an update in September I wouldn't count on it.
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Geeze I'm going to get a nexus 5 and be up .3 levels ha.
Probably will show up on Dec 31 at 11:58 so its technically before the end of the year
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I think Phandroid is off base here. Jason Mackenzie's tweet mentions the T-Mobile HTC One specifically, not the DNA. Then @AndrewGriffitt asks when the DNA will get its update, and Mackenzie responds with the December time frame, but nowhere does he mention that it will be 4.3. The DNA's update is 4.2 (4.2.2?) according to what we've last heard from Verizon, and now it sounds like that update won't come till December.
Am I reading this wrong? Or should I be expecting 4.3 now?
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I think Phandroid is off base here. Jason Mackenzie's tweet mentions the T-Mobile HTC One specifically, not the DNA. Then @AndrewGriffitt asks when the DNA will get its update, and Mackenzie responds with the December time frame, but nowhere does he mention that it will be 4.3. The DNA's update is 4.2 (4.2.2?) according to what we've last heard from Verizon, and now it sounds like that update won't come till December.
Am I reading this wrong? Or should I be expecting 4.3 now?
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I think @jasonmacHTC mentioned in earlier tweets that the next update for the DNA will be the 4.2 update w/ Sense 5.0. I don't think there is an ETA on the 4.3 update with Sense 5.5. I think that's HTC's plan (based on rumors I've read)....eventually, but it definitely won't be this year. This year, its all about 4.2 and Sense 5.0
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I think HTC would slap 4.3 on it today if Verizon would let them. Verizon has to add Navigator and all that other stuff. Look at the ONE. Verizon is the last to update. I've learned that updates don't come with Verizon. I don't root my phones so I just live with what I bought. If I happen to get an update then that's all the better. Verizon still lists this phone at $199. They treat it like a flip phone.
it's pretty basic really. Verizon is in the phone business, they want to sell phones and contracts. If they update our phones to the latest and greatest well then we wouldn't want to change our phones every two years. Android is basically the same across all phones minus the hardware and camera tweaks. So I'm running Sense 5 on my phone and I have access to features that are only on the HTC One like Zoe... Why would I swap my phone for a One at this point? I wouldn't.... see my point? Can't really blame Verizon for their business model. So we root and load ports and AOSP ROMs to get the latest features Verizon refuses to provide so they can make a few extra phone sales and extend some contracts.
I'm still only going to expect a 4.2/4.2.2 update with some iteration of Sense 5 by the year's end (hopefully). Until some new information comes to light anyway.
I also fully expect that to be the final OTA of any significance for this phone, knowing Verizon.
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it's pretty basic really. Verizon is in the phone business, they want to sell phones and contracts. If they update our phones to the latest and greatest well then we wouldn't want to change our phones every two years. Android is basically the same across all phones minus the hardware and camera tweaks. So I'm running Sense 5 on my phone and I have access to features that are only on the HTC One like Zoe... Why would I swap my phone for a One at this point? I wouldn't.... see my point? Can't really blame Verizon for their business model. So we root and load ports and AOSP ROMs to get the latest features Verizon refuses to provide so they can make a few extra phone sales and extend some contracts.
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I would rather have a faster processor with more RAM than a 2 year old phone running the newest version of Android. I'll take speed over a revamped app drawer anyday. An update to Android (yipeee!) isnt going to make me want to hang on to an old phone at the rate that this cell phone technology improves. I wouldnt swap my DNA for a One either. But for a LG G2, a Note 3, a One Max, maybe!
" So we root and load ports and AOSP ROMs to get the latest features Verizon refuses to provide so they can make a few extra phone sales and extend some contracts."
Exactly. It's Verizon's genius business model that fuels all of this, or a lot of it anyway.
ChristianJay said:
I would rather have a faster processor with more RAM than a 2 year old phone running the newest version of Android. I'll take speed over a revamped app drawer anyday. An update to Android (yipeee!) isnt going to make me want to hang on to an old phone at the rate that this cell phone technology improves. I wouldnt swap my DNA for a One either. But for a LG G2, a Note 3, a One Max, maybe!
" So we root and load ports and AOSP ROMs to get the latest features Verizon refuses to provide so they can make a few extra phone sales and extend some contracts."
Exactly. It's Verizon's genius business model that fuels all of this, or a lot of it anyway.
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But even the technology spread to the phones you mention are not that far off the hardware we already have. I think we will start to see a small plateau on hardware improvement for a little while until new architecture comes out like 64bit processors (like the iPhone 5s) So at this point software and camera features will start to be the real selling point for phones
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But even the technology spread to the phones you mention are not that far off the hardware we already have. I think we will start to see a small plateau on hardware improvement for a little while until new architecture comes out like 64bit processors (like the iPhone 5s) So at this point software and camera features will start to be the real selling point for phones
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I see what your saying. I guess I just miss the days when every year you could look forward to something new. That and I've always been the type of person that wants the latest and greatest, within reason of course, not one of these I-sheep standing in line for a new I-phone, or paying too much as a early adopter. Lol.
When my Droid X's contract was up last October, it seemed like a dinosaur in comparison to what was out, the S3 being the cream at the time. Then when I heard about the DNA I was hyped. 1080p, wireless charging, great processor, etc. I got it for $120 online and was happy as heck. Still seems quick and the video looks superb.
4.3 sense 5 enhanced hit the one today hope that helps our device
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tdizzle404 said:
4.3 sense 5 enhanced hit the one today hope that helps our device
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That was for T-Mobile wasn't it?
Hopefully someone will be able to port it. Seems like that's all we ever wait on is a port.