http://www.gsmarena.com/newscomm-5003.php
maybe its cos the sdcard card and small battery ?
what else ?
People are drinking the Apple and Samsung kool-aid
Made some terrible decisions, invested heavily in audio beats. Got very complacent and gave the initiative to Samsung who took it both hands and ran with it.
Launched poor products no sd card, no removable battery latter not end of the word.
HTC one x was good but they shot themselves in the foot by not including ext sd card.
HTC will have to get a move on with htc j butterfly if they want to win back their fans from Samsung.
HTC J butterfly can turn it around for them if they sort themselves out.
I would go back to htc in a flash since their products look better then the plastic polished crap Samsung use.
btw I'm using galaxy note 2, best phone on the market, which I'm very happy with but hate the plastic crap.
Samsung and Apple both produce one core line of phone and push it across all carriers, at least for their main line phone. HTC produces custom phones and is inconsistent with there phones. They've produced top, middle and bottom tier phones which give consumers mixed feelings and not a consistent experience access the board. I think Samsung has done better at marketing to. HTC has great phones, and I believe the Chinese government will prop them up if they have to, they will bounce back.
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I'm glad this is happening because its going to force HTC to do what they used to do. Make phones that completely outmatched the competition. And when that happens and it will I'll gladly return.
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I think.its because they have too many phones, they need one phone on all carriers
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I think.its because they have too many phones, they need one phone on all carriers
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You right there HTC did spread themselves bit thin last year.
Focus one tablet, phablet, phone and that's it. I'm sure they will win over business unless Samsung drop their plastic craps.
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Poor business decisions and diminishing quality control will do that
Just basing this comment on some of my own experiences. I've never owned a Samsung so I can only go from what I've read/heard.
Currently on a Rezound and prior to that was the Dinc, Droid X2, Droid 2 Global and OG Droid (no particular order) Oh and the wife's iPhone 4S. Now some of my reasons, this is by far the WORST battery I have ever had. The Dinc wasn't terrible but I did expect more.
I believe part of the reason is the overlay of Sense. I loved it when I first used it now I'm just tired of it and I'm sure others are as well. You don't get the true experience of the Android OS which is extremely noticeable with the release of ICS. Lets not forget if your running true ICS and what a little Sense flavor there are countless Widgets to download.
Pile on everything mentioned above and you have a receipe for disaster.
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Typically, profits fall when a number of situations occur, all of which affect the bottom line and make investors unhappy.
1 - Fixed costs are too high relative to sales - the cost of running the business (people's salaries and benefits, office space, etc.)
2 - Sales are lower than forecasts - competitors took market share away that HTC was planning on having but didn't get (Apple, Samsung, etc.)
A way to offset high fixed costs is to move jobs to countries where labor costs are lower for salaried and hourly jobs. The trend with tech companies is to establish facilities in China near the supply base. Not only do you reduce fixed costs, but you also reduce freight costs - freight on board is reduced (the transit time for inbound materials to the manufacturing facilities is significantly reduced so money isn't tied up into materials while the materials are being shipped point to point), expediting costs aren't as much of a necessity because materials aren't traveling half way around the world if production was in North America but materials are coming from Taiwan for example... There are a lot of pluses from a corporate profit standpoint as you can see.
When sales are lower than forecasts, quarterly earnings targets are missed and investors never like to see that. Investors have a major interest in quarterly projections and in companies being able to hit their targets. Investors are very quick to leap to conclusions about a company's future when a quarterly report announces that targets have been missed. Stock prices are adversely affected and investors look at other options that can make them more money. If quarter after quarter, the story continues to be consistent, the company's Board of Directors starts to get antsy and they put major pressure on the CEO and CFO to get back on track. Many C-level executives lose their jobs because of quarterly and annual losses. Talk about pressure!
Investors want to see profits that not only meet expectation, but they also want to see smart decisions being made for long term profitability. I haven't personally followed HTC's news but I'm concerned with the recent declaration that HTC isn't doing well financially. I'll be checking out some facts this weekend so thanks for the post!
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You right there HTC did spread themselves bit thin last year.
Focus one tablet, phablet, phone and that's it. I'm sure they will win over business unless Samsung drop their plastic craps.
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I completely agree. I think it's the main problem with Android distribution method. If each carrier only had a handful of devices, the better.
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I completely agree. I think it's the main problem with Android distribution method. If each carrier only had a handful of devices, the better.
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I agree with this. If HTC went to a few flagship models, and they used those hardware models for all the carriers, they could focus more on getting those smartphones right, with both hardware and software.
I know people don't want to hear this but as someone who absolutely loves Android, I still feel that apple makes a hell of a device. I would like to see HTC use the resources that are so spread out currently, and focus on making a few top tier phones that are of that same build quality as the iPhone or the couple of Android phones that came close over the years.
But I also feel that way about Android in general. I would like to see Google start to have higher standards for devices from manufacturers, and instead of making android work good on a million and one devices, make it work incredibly well on a smaller number of devices.
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Just basing this comment on some of my own experiences. I've never owned a Samsung so I can only go from what I've read/heard.
Currently on a Rezound and prior to that was the Dinc, Droid X2, Droid 2 Global and OG Droid (no particular order) Oh and the wife's iPhone 4S. Now some of my reasons, this is by far the WORST battery I have ever had. The Dinc wasn't terrible but I did expect more.
I believe part of the reason is the overlay of Sense. I loved it when I first used it now I'm just tired of it and I'm sure others are as well. You don't get the true experience of the Android OS which is extremely noticeable with the release of ICS. Lets not forget if your running true ICS and what a little Sense flavor there are countless Widgets to download.
Pile on everything mentioned above and you have a receipe for disaster.
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You're on XDA and there are 99% stable AOSP ROMs available. Get on it
Too many android devices. With every different brand putting out new phones every couple months, there will be large fluctuation in any company profits.
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You're on XDA and there are 99% stable AOSP ROMs available. Get on it
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He means straight out of the box.
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I agree with this. If HTC went to a few flagship models, and they used those hardware models for all the carriers, they could focus more on getting those smartphones right, with both hardware and software.
I know people don't want to hear this but as someone who absolutely loves Android, I still feel that apple makes a hell of a device. I would like to see HTC use the resources that are so spread out currently, and focus on making a few top tier phones that are of that same build quality as the iPhone or the couple of Android phones that came close over the years.
But I also feel that way about Android in general. I would like to see Google start to have higher standards for devices from manufacturers, and instead of making android work good on a million and one devices, make it work incredibly well on a smaller number of devices.
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Nexus!
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He means straight out of the box.
Nexus!
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If HTC would have had better designs in the last year, Google would have picked them for the nexus 4
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Just saw the Youtube video with the leaked Ville, and it simply is a minor hardware downgrade from HTC Amaze. The front camera is VGA, our is 2M, the back camera has single flash, our is dual, has a plastic back cover, the screen resolution and size is the same, the processor is clocked at 1.5 wouldnt be surprised if it's the same model... Most likely, they will sell it for $199 with a 2-year plan. What I don't understand is, instead of focusing on further development and advertisement of such a solid device as Amaze 4G, put the price a bit down and make profit out of far bigger sales, HTC come every month with 5 different models with weird ass names, sell some, and then move on and forget about them, no support no ****, phone owners feel screwed, and move to other companies' phones... I feel the same way after reading Amaze 4G is near "end-of-life" phase, after only 3 months of sales, which means after the already promised ICS update this phone, despite its potential, will be forgotten by T-Mobile and HTC. If that happens this surely will be my final HTC phone! Do they even realize how many phone models they have issued in the past year? Samsung has had the Galaxy line for almost 2 years, they develop it, support it, and as a result they sell bigger even than Apple, so wtf is wrong with HTC's marketing office, are they on drugs, dont they see whats the winning marketing strategy right now?
The issue is that Google who bought Android is trying to monopolize just as badly as Apple is.
WHY would HTC be virtually the first company to comply with Googles' "3 key phone" marketing push is what I want to know?
I, for one, will be waiting for SOME time before buying another smartphone as it costs too much.
Thanks Google & HTC!
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Just saw the Youtube video with the leaked Ville, and it simply is a minor hardware downgrade from HTC Amaze. The front camera is VGA, our is 2M, the back camera has single flash, our is dual, has a plastic back cover, the screen resolution and size is the same, the processor is clocked at 1.5 wouldnt be surprised if it's the same model... Most likely, they will sell it for $199 with a 2-year plan. What I don't understand is, instead of focusing on further development and advertisement of such a solid device as Amaze 4G, put the price a bit down and make profit out of far bigger sales, HTC come every month with 5 different models with weird ass names, sell some, and then move on and forget about them, no support no ****, phone owners feel screwed, and move to other companies' phones... I feel the same way after reading Amaze 4G is near "end-of-life" phase, after only 3 months of sales, which means after the already promised ICS update this phone, despite its potential, will be forgotten by T-Mobile and HTC. If that happens this surely will be my final HTC phone! Do they even realize how many phone models they have issued in the past year? Samsung has had the Galaxy line for almost 2 years, they develop it, support it, and as a result they sell bigger even than Apple, so wtf is wrong with HTC's marketing office, are they on drugs, dont they see whats the winning marketing strategy right now?
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^^ +1
Exactly what I was thinking. Well said.
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I just hope HTC doesn't turn into an iPhone, that's the reason I went with HTC because apple has stupid restrictions on their phones. You have so much more freedom and I feel that now Google is feeling targeted by the 4s which is stupid. I think market speaks louder than words though their is only so much that we will take as far as downgrading our standards with phones. It may take a while but they will get the hint eventually.
PS. Why is google pushing 3 key phones?
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I just hope HTC doesn't turn into an iPhone, that's the reason I went with HTC because apple has stupid restrictions on their phones. You have so much more freedom and I feel that now Google is feeling targeted by the 4s which is stupid. I think market speaks louder than words though their is only so much that we will take as far as downgrading our standards with phones. It may take a while but they will get the hint eventually.
PS. Why is google pushing 3 key phones?
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Consumer pressure does nice things, doesn't it?!
Google is pushing 3 key phones just to tighten it's monopolization strategy.
The search key does not need to be removed....Apple anyone?
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Consumer pressure does nice things, doesn't it?!
Google is pushing 3 key phones just to tighten it's monopolization strategy.
The search key does not need to be removed....Apple anyone?
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I personally hate the search button. Never used it. It is a waste of space. So I can care less if they removed it lol
I just hope HTC doesn't turn into an iPhone
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HTC surely hopes it can turn something into an iPhone like success, but based on their track record I highly doubt it. People predicted lackluster 4S sales since it was an incremental upgrade but instead they sold more than ever. Apple is kicking butt with essentially two phones (the iPhone 4S was 89% of approximately 37 million iPhones sold in Q4). Again this is with an incremental upgrade. Apple's hardware margins on the iPhone 4 and 4S are excellent so they are raking in the bucks with these sales numbers.
I've not heard anything on the horizon from HTC that can compete with the iPhone 4S and with a major upgrade expected for the iPhone 5 my guess is the HTC market share will drop in 2012.
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It's hard to take but the folks like us at XDA are a very small market so there isn't a lot of business driver to provide open phones for people to hack on. I wish it were different but I don't see that changing. Too few care about S-OFF or root for it to be a profit driver and believe me when I say that HTC, Samsung, Motorola, etc. care more about profits than making XDA members happy.
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Just saw the Youtube video with the leaked Ville, and it simply is a minor hardware downgrade from HTC Amaze. The front camera is VGA, our is 2M, the back camera has single flash, our is dual, has a plastic back cover, the screen resolution and size is the same, the processor is clocked at 1.5 wouldnt be surprised if it's the same model... Most likely, they will sell it for $199 with a 2-year plan. What I don't understand is, instead of focusing on further development and advertisement of such a solid device as Amaze 4G, put the price a bit down and make profit out of far bigger sales, HTC come every month with 5 different models with weird ass names, sell some, and then move on and forget about them, no support no ****, phone owners feel screwed, and move to other companies' phones... I feel the same way after reading Amaze 4G is near "end-of-life" phase, after only 3 months of sales, which means after the already promised ICS update this phone, despite its potential, will be forgotten by T-Mobile and HTC. If that happens this surely will be my final HTC phone! Do they even realize how many phone models they have issued in the past year? Samsung has had the Galaxy line for almost 2 years, they develop it, support it, and as a result they sell bigger even than Apple, so wtf is wrong with HTC's marketing office, are they on drugs, dont they see whats the winning marketing strategy right now?
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they drink rakia all the time brat
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I personally hate the search button. Never used it. It is a waste of space. So I can care less if they removed it lol
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HTC surely hopes it can turn something into an iPhone like success, but based on their track record I highly doubt it. People predicted lackluster 4S sales since it was an incremental upgrade but instead they sold more than ever. Apple is kicking butt with essentially two phones (the iPhone 4S was 89% of approximately 37 million iPhones sold in Q4). Again this is with an incremental upgrade. Apple's hardware margins on the iPhone 4 and 4S are excellent so they are raking in the bucks with these sales numbers.
I've not heard anything on the horizon from HTC that can compete with the iPhone 4S and with a major upgrade expected for the iPhone 5 my guess is the HTC market share will drop in 2012.
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It's hard to take but the folks like us at XDA are a very small market so there isn't a lot of business driver to provide open phones for people to hack on. I wish it were different but I don't see that changing. Too few care about S-OFF or root for it to be a profit driver and believe me when I say that HTC, Samsung, Motorola, etc. care more about profits than making XDA members happy.
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That's the thing though, maybe it's just me but I would like a phone that is rare. To me the iPhone hype is just a brand name. The phone is to common for me. It's nice to have a unique phone like the Amaze or the ReZound like they go much more in depth. However the Ville is an insult to the consumers who get a really high end phone to have it followed by what ever you call that. To me I think they need to stop monopolizing before they end up like Rockefeller. Don't toy with your consumers because they are what keep you a float.
I'm thinking about doing it. Anyone else make the plunge? What do you think of the incredible vs the 4s?
I haven't but I guess it just depends on what you like or dislike about your operating system and the phone looks.
I've never owned an apple anything much less an Iphone. I will say this though, I do have friends that have Iphones and I watch them power it up, zip right to an app or go right to the phone and start dialing away, seems pretty fast to me. My Dinc is somewhat laggy compared to their speeds of hitting buttons, like waiting for my dialer to come up or say the market to load or other stuff.
Now I realize I got apps I've downloaded etc, but so have they. I'm not pitching a sales for Iphone because I am not an Apple fan however, I personally think the Iphone is a hell of a lot sexier than most any other makers phones available. That aluminum housing is just badass looking.
Also realize this is just my thoughts compared to an OG Dinc, I would imagine the Inc 4g should be a crapload faster than my Dinc....
My gf just got this phone from the iPhone 4 yesterday. She loves it so far and is absolutely amazed how much you can customize. She was a little overwhelmed from everything but that's just because the iPhone had literally nothing to customize. Screen is soo crisp, an phone is fast.
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I would imagine the Inc 4g should be a crapload faster than my Dinc....
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Yes. This phone is a world of difference from the original Incredible. I loved the original Incredible but there was never any question that the iPhone was smoother--just completely impossible to customize without jailbreaking. With the Incredible 4G and Ice Cream Sandwich optimizations, the difference is negligible. So now it's really just a question of whether you want customizability or not, and which UI design you prefer. I think Sense 4 is much more beautiful than iOS, but that's a matter of taste.
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Polarimetric, that's good to hear, and what I was hoping to hear myself. One question though, I know I've heard of jailbreaking, and my interpretation of this was the same thing as rooting? If that's the case wouldn't the Iphone peeps have the same level as customizing their Iphones as we do our Androids?
I had a 4s prior. Yes pretty customizable if jailbroken, had nice themes. However I find myself preferring android, because of more options, connectivity, and 4G service, of course on Verizon.
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Polarimetric, that's good to hear, and what I was hoping to hear myself. One question though, I know I've heard of jailbreaking, and my interpretation of this was the same thing as rooting? If that's the case wouldn't the Iphone peeps have the same level as customizing their Iphones as we do our Androids?
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Theoretically, yes. Jailbreaking and rooting are pretty much the same thing (they're both just essentially using an exploit to remove the restrictions placed on the phone by the carrier/manufacturer/OS developer), so iPhones and Android phones in theory should be customizable to the same degree. However, one of the reasons the Android dev community is so much more robust (and thus Android phones are considerably more customizable) is the difference between Google's attitude toward the dev community and Apple's attitude. While Google has largely taken a look-the-other-way approach (the only way in which they've really ever put their foot down is disallowing Google-branded apps from being distributed with custom ROMs, but they've never done anything about the Gapps packages that float around the internet), Apple has devoted hours upon hours of development toward addling or completely getting rid of the iPhone dev community. Although they've been unsuccessful and jailbreaking still exists, Apple's adamant anti-development, closed-source policy has turned many developers toward Android. While almost all Android phones are customizable all the way down to the system level (installing a custom ROM can completely change the user experience), iPhones are mostly just tweakable. An iPhone is always going to be an iPhone. If you like iPhones, that may not be a problem for you, but if you like being part of a community that pretty much guarantees choice, Android will always be the way to go.
im on the verge of switching from my 4s to the inc 4g lte due to the fact that i miss android. this is my 3rd time switching from the iphone to android due to the fact that i miss lte and the community :silly:
My dad just traded in 2 old iphones and got the inc4
i think he will like the switch from crapple to android.
esp once i steal and root his phone,
IMO the only thing this phone needs is an Amoled screen and it would be absolutely perfect. Battery life is excellent even in low signal areas like my home. I really don't have anything to complain about with this phone...and I'm pretty picky. I'm just not a fan of the larger screen phones...battery life suffers tremendously. My wife was playing with it all weekend, she has the iphone 4s and wants the Inc 4G immediately. And she is a die-hard iphone junky. Let's see how she feels when the iphone 5 comes out...hehe.
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IMO the only thing this phone needs is an Amoled screen and it would be absolutely perfect. Battery life is excellent even in low signal areas like my home. I really don't have anything to complain about with this phone...and I'm pretty picky. I'm just not a fan of the larger screen phones...battery life suffers tremendously. My wife was playing with it all weekend, she has the iphone 4s and wants the Inc 4G immediately. And she is a die-hard iphone junky. Let's see how she feels when the iphone 5 comes out...hehe.
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I think even once icrap5 comes out inc4 will still be on top, crapple just sucks, what are they gunna do make it a 3.8' screen. lol, iphone4s was the biggest joke in scmartphone history.
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I think even once icrap5 comes out inc4 will still be on top, crapple just sucks, what are they gunna do make it a 3.8' screen. lol, iphone4s was the biggest joke in scmartphone history.
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I don't see how that can be said. I went from a DINC 1 to the iPhone 4S and was amazed with how smooth it is. I miss Android and flashing stuff some, so I'm looking back into it a bit. Just don't understand the statements like this. The thing is stupid fast, takes some amazing pictures, and the battery life has been killer.
Not a fanboy at all, just can respect things. If the DINC 4G LTE came out before the 28th, I'd have snagged one and kept my unlimited. Now I think I'll have to buy phones outright. :crying:
If you have been sticking with iPhone or at least iPod or iPad, I strongly recommend you to move over to Android world. I had iPhone 4S before (although it's not my previous phone), it's dramatic but more fun to discover. iPhone was just too bring for me, and I didn't like jailbreaking because the system got unstable. If you like customizing stuff, I'm pretty sure you would like the phone!
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I don't see how that can be said. I went from a DINC 1 to the iPhone 4S and was amazed with how smooth it is. I miss Android and flashing stuff some, so I'm looking back into it a bit. Just don't understand the statements like this. The thing is stupid fast, takes some amazing pictures, and the battery life has been killer.
Not a fanboy at all, just can respect things. If the DINC 4G LTE came out before the 28th, I'd have snagged one and kept my unlimited. Now I think I'll have to buy phones outright. :crying:
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While I agree his statement was childish...
You went from the dinc 1 to the iPhone 4s... That's like going from a tube tv to a 1080 Samsung flat screen. I owned the dinc 1 before but that was like 10 tech years ago...
Comparing the latest incredible 4g to the iphone 4s would be more fair. I am stunned how far android has evolved and HTC Sense becoming an actual benefit rather than a burden.
So far the incredible has a great camera, killer OS, and is smooth as butter. I just wish manufactures really did spend more time coming out with quality 4 inchers.
HTC is the maker. Cmon google! Give them the nexus.
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While I agree his statement was childish...
You went from the dinc 1 to the iPhone 4s... That's like going from a tube tv to a 1080 Samsung flat screen. I owned the dinc 1 before but that was like 10 tech years ago...
Comparing the latest incredible 4g to the iphone 4s would be more fair. I am stunned how far android has evolved and HTC Sense becoming an actual benefit rather than a burden.
So far the incredible has a great camera, killer OS, and is smooth as butter. I just wish manufactures really did spend more time coming out with quality 4 inchers.
HTC is the maker. Cmon google! Give them the nexus.
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According to the rumor mill, Google is giving everyone the Nexus. http://www.redmondpie.com/google-wi...h-november-to-commemorate-5-years-of-android/
So HTC getting the Nexus? How is that going to work?
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According to the rumor mill, Google is giving everyone the Nexus. http://www.redmondpie.com/google-wi...h-november-to-commemorate-5-years-of-android/
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If I read that right it says, "Google looks to be going all-out in an attempt to appease consumers in both software and hardware, the latter of which will likely be all provided by Samsung."
I really hope those 5 devices aren't Samsung!
PhillyCheez said:
If I read that right it says, "Google looks to be going all-out in an attempt to appease consumers in both software and hardware, the latter of which will likely be all provided by Samsung."
I really hope those 5 devices aren't Samsung!
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Ooh. Should have read the specific article I linked to before I linked you to it.
That article seems to theorize they'll all be Samsung, but most other articles I've read have said that the 5 incoming Nexus devices will come from all different manufacturers, bringing more diversity to the Nexus phone brand. Here's a better article on the same subject that lines up better with what I wanted to say: http://androidandme.com/2012/05/new...from-different-manufacturers-by-thanksgiving/
So, essentially, if the rumor is true, the major manufacturers (presumably HTC and Samsung, obviously the Google-owned Motorola; the other two depend on who they can get--I'd bet Asus will be one of them) would all contribute a phone to the Nexus brand, making Google's Nexus store kind of like a carrier of its own.
I am down for that!
Considering I'm stuck buying phones at retail I'm in for sure. Very exciting news.
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I'm thinking about doing it. Anyone else make the plunge? What do you think of the incredible vs the 4s?
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The incredible is a way better choice, u will be happy with ur decision, considering ur going to root it, only get it if ur planning on rooting. I am purchasing this phone tomorrow, upgrading from the HTC Thunderbolt and I'm very exited.
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Man this phone has everything
Best IPS screen
S4 Pro 4 Cores
Micro Sd slot
2100 battery
Its on top of all phones with its spec's.
And LG is still sleeping.
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I know and there is too little for advertising from lg, att or sprint, this phone is a killer in terms of specs and even for benchmarks its ways over any from Samsung, htc, iPhone.
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I think many people are aware of, but avoiding this phone because of LG's poor reputation with software updates. Also, the locked bootloader is reaaaaallly a dealbreaker.
I wish LG didn't lock the bootloader, everyone would be all over this phone and LG would finally be recognized as a legitimate option. But until they either get their act together with software updates or unlock the bootloader, I think this phone will probably be passed over by many
Normal people don't understand or care about locked bootloaders. Hell, most don't care about software updates either. LG needs to market this phone just like the S3, One X, iPhone, and get them moving off shelves.
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I think many people are aware of, but avoiding this phone because of LG's poor reputation with software updates. Also, the locked bootloader is reaaaaallly a dealbreaker.
I wish LG didn't lock the bootloader, everyone would be all over this phone and LG would finally be recognized as a legitimate option. But until they either get their act together with software updates or unlock the bootloader, I think this phone will probably be passed over by many
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From reports, LG didn't choose to lock the bootloader. AT&T set the requirement. Too bad AT&T is going to miss out on huge sales of this phone, as a direct result.
dbgeek said:
From reports, LG didn't choose to lock the bootloader. AT&T set the requirement. Too bad AT&T is going to miss out on huge sales of this phone, as a direct result.
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Sprint's is also locked and sprint has never forced mfg's to lock devices, so that excuse is bullspit.
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Normal people don't understand or care about locked bootloaders. Hell, most don't care about software updates either. LG needs to market this phone just like the S3, One X, iPhone, and get them moving off shelves.
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This is true, but it helps to have a dedicated community to eventually drive sales out in the "normal" world. Think about it: Who is the guy (or girl) in your group of friends who gives the phone advice? If your answer was "Me," you get a gold star. XDA may be a small group of users, but we can exert influence outside of this website. Samsung isn't the most popular Android OEM because their phones are far and away the best devices. Samsung has the best updates, a fairly hassle-free dev environment without locked boot loaders, and they pimp their specs. HTC and LG can match them on specs, so what are they missing?
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This is true, but it helps to have a dedicated community to eventually drive sales out in the "normal" world. Think about it: Who is the guy (or girl) in your group of friends who gives the phone advice? If your answer was "Me," you get a gold star. XDA may be a small group of users, but we can exert influence outside of this website. Samsung isn't the most popular Android OEM because their phones are far and away the best devices. Samsung has the best updates, a fairly hassle-free dev environment without locked boot loaders, and they pimp their specs. HTC and LG can match them on specs, so what are they missing?
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Oh hell I should be on Sammy's payroll for the all the devices I've had people buy over the years...
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Oh hell I should be on Sammy's payroll for the all the devices I've had people buy over the years...
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Yeah, given the poor build quality, the sub-par radios, and their unwillingness to drop Exynos source, I'm surprised they are still in such good shape here. I saw, before I got rid of my i9300, that some heavy hitter devs were leaving because of Samsung's refusal to release the Exynos source.
Really, the formula is simple for Android domination: Build a powerful device with a great design and great materials (HTC One X w/ A15 SoC), be dev friendly (unlocked bootloader and release all source), run AOSP or have the CM or AOKP team build your ship ROMs, and update as fast as humanly possible after AOSP drops. LG is THIS close to having the formula, although they should have used the Exmor Rs BSI sensor, unlocked the bootloader, and released all of their proprietary source code.
I agree. This phone is a monster. Unlock. bootloader and and get aosp jellybean on it and its a wrap!
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I agree. This phone is a monster. Unlock. bootloader and and get aosp jellybean on it and its a wrap!
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Indeed. Still hesitant to pull the trigger on this, with the N4 so close, and the locked bootloader on this. This just has so much more potential, with LTE and the SD card.
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Yeah, given the poor build quality, the sub-par radios, and their unwillingness to drop Exynos source, I'm surprised they are still in such good shape here. I saw, before I got rid of my i9300, that some heavy hitter devs were leaving because of Samsung's refusal to release the Exynos source.
Really, the formula is simple for Android domination: Build a powerful device with a great design and great materials (HTC One X w/ A15 SoC), be dev friendly (unlocked bootloader and release all source), run AOSP or have the CM or AOKP team build your ship ROMs, and update as fast as humanly possible after AOSP drops. LG is THIS close to having the formula, although they should have used the Exmor Rs BSI sensor, unlocked the bootloader, and released all of their proprietary source code.
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Poor build quality? Yeah everyone says that, but I don't see it. Yes, it's plastic. All of my Samsung devices hold up just fine. Just because something has glass or metal on both sides doesn't make it better, it makes it heavier. I don't have any issues with *any* of the top tier phones when it comes to build quality.
And again, none of that is what makes the S3 a top seller. Marketing. Advertising. A decent product with decent support. That's what sells to the masses. How many people say "did you see that new commercial for the S3? Awesome"
Obviously what sells me on a phone and most XDA members is completely different.
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Poor build quality? Yeah everyone says that, but I don't see it. Yes, it's plastic. All of my Samsung devices hold up just fine. Just because something has glass or metal on both sides doesn't make it better, it makes it heavier. I don't have any issues with *any* of the top tier phones when it comes to build quality.
And again, none of that is what makes the S3 a top seller. Marketing. Advertising. A decent product with decent support. That's what sells to the masses. How many people say "did you see that new commercial for the S3? Awesome"
Obviously what sells me on a phone and most XDA members is completely different.
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The S3 creaks, the battery door is flimsy, and good luck finding a used S3 without scratches on the battery door or bezel. If you drop it from a normal standing height onto a hard surface, it's toast. When the iPhone is more durable than your device (The iPhone has always been built better, but not the most durable), you have issues, especially when that build is all plastic.
LG DOES need to do some advertising, and they should take a page out of the Samsung book and make fun of Samsung's last-gen hardware and flimsy build.
As for us, we can do a lot to sell phones. A vibrant developer community will draw interest.
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The S3 creaks, the battery door is flimsy, and good luck finding a used S3 without scratches on the battery door or bezel. If you drop it from a normal standing height onto a hard surface, it's toast. When the iPhone is more durable than your device (The iPhone has always been built better, but not the most durable), you have issues, especially when that build is all plastic.
LG DOES need to do some advertising, and they should take a page out of the Samsung book and make fun of Samsung's last-gen hardware and flimsy build.
As for us, we can do a lot to sell phones. A vibrant developer community will draw interest.
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I just sold my used S3 on XDA, it was flawless front and back. It's all in how you take care of it. I'm anal. Most people are not. As for the back plate getting scratched? Yep. I agree. It was a joke. The flimsy part? No. With the battery cover ON the phone, it felt perfectly normal to me. I never had creaking issues, or thought it felt flimsy. It's light weight plastic. I get it. I'm not defending Samsung, simply saying a lot of the "build quality" debates are personal opinion. I've seen Samsung phones take a beating for years and last no problem. Same with the iPhone. And I've also seen them both take minor drops and self destruct. Even with cases.
As for the LGOG, yeah I think it feels great. Better than the S3? Heck yeah. Much better. Do I really care? No. I'm more interested in the screen, and what's inside. Again, that's my own opinion.
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I just sold my used S3 on XDA, it was flawless front and back. It's all in how you take care of it. I'm anal. Most people are not. As for the back plate getting scratched? Yep. I agree. It was a joke. The flimsy part? No. With the battery cover ON the phone, it felt perfectly normal to me. I never had creaking issues, or thought it felt flimsy. It's light weight plastic. I get it. I'm not defending Samsung, simply saying a lot of the "build quality" debates are personal opinion. I've seen Samsung phones take a beating for years and last no problem. Same with the iPhone. And I've also seen them both take minor drops and self destruct. Even with cases.
As for the LGOG, yeah I think it feels great. Better than the S3? Heck yeah. Much better. Do I really care? No. I'm more interested in the screen, and what's inside. Again, that's my own opinion.
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I had two i9300's, and how cheap they felt bothered me. To each his own, I guess.
I like the OG screen, and just the five, or so, minutes I spent playing with it at AT&T was enough to impress me. That said, I may still go with the Nexus 4, just because the ease of modification. LTE and microSD are great upside, but I don't have LTE in my town (yet) and I can live with 16GB. I'm going to mull it over this weekend.
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Indeed. Still hesitant to pull the trigger on this, with the N4 so close, and the locked bootloader on this. This just has so much more potential, with LTE and the SD card.
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I'm in the same exact boat as you... The LTE and SD card would be really helpful.. especially because in San Diego we do have LTE and it's great. Plus this phone is 150$ cheaper than the 16GB N4 for AT&T users... ah god why do they make us face such decisions...
Though if this device runs so seamlessly with 4.0, I wonder what the N4 will be like once they get 4.2 all tweaked in, free of bloatware :fingers-crossed:
I agree on average though that LG and AT&T need to advertise this device more... I wonder if Samsung has AT&T by the balls still for advertising/marketing priority rights.
I agree on average though that LG and AT&T need to advertise this device more... I wonder if Samsung has AT&T by the balls still for advertising/marketing priority rights.[/QUOTE]
The thing is that, every time I call at&t store they advertise ( Get iPhone 5 when on hold) so Apple has them by the balls.
Seriously! They need to advertise more! With more advertisement comes more cases!!!
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A little over the top but they could air this commercial on cable and or regular tv infomercial style.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kge8aKlrNgg
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From reports, LG didn't choose to lock the bootloader. AT&T set the requirement. Too bad AT&T is going to miss out on huge sales of this phone, as a direct result.
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Though a locked bootloader is bad news for develeopers customers could really care less if anything about this. Tell the average person that the LG has its bootloader locked and they will look at you like you are from another planet.
With that said this LG phone is the best LG phone I have ever used. Still not enough to sway me away from the Note 2 though.
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I get that it's not a Nexus 4 and it's around $100 more off contract. I also get that the GS3 has more brand awareness, but this is a really awesome phone. I actually think the LG skin is good and adds a lot of functionality over stock Android.
I have a GS3, Note II, iPhone 5, and Lumia 920. This is my favorite phone out of all of them. The screen, feel in the hand, speed, and software touches make it almost a perfect device. Battery life has been good and my only real complaint is that the camera could have been better.
So what's holding it back? Marketing? I know LG has stumbled in the past, but this is not one of those times. I honestly probably wouldn't have even thought to buy the phone if not for the article about Consumer Reports rating it above the iPhone 5 and GS3 in customer satisfaction. I had to see what it was about and fell in love with it right away in the store.
As it stands, I couldn't recommend this phone more highly to people on AT&T who want an Android phone. I would definitely recommend it over the GS3, and that's saying a lot. The lack of activity in these forums, along with the sparse development tells me that it's definitely not getting into enough hands, and that's unfortunate.
LG's has a rather tarnished reputation as far as smartphone is concerned, they've had long lines of disappointing and mediocre mid-tier releases over the years plus poor record of software updates. Even with a phone like OG, it's going to take awhile to reboot their image.
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LG's has a rather tarnished reputation as far as smartphone is concerned, they've had long lines of disappointing and mediocre mid-tier releases over the years plus poor record of software updates. Even with a phone like OG, it's going to take awhile to reboot their image.
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Nuff Said.
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It's got 1M users, so I'd say it's selling well for a phone not made by Apple, Samsung, or HTC.
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It's got 1M users, so I'd say it's selling well for a phone not made by Apple, Samsung, or HTC.
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That's definitely encouraging, but it could be much better and the forums are a ghost town comparatively.
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http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_briefly_makes_it_2nd_top_phone_manufacturer_in_the_us-news-5371.php
I've not been a great fan of LG until this phone. I briefly considered that 3d camera phone from 2011 on AT&T that LG made, but ultimately chose the SII (and I made the right choice; I was one more f-ed up phone from buying an iphone). This phone impressed me in reviews and in stores (the demos blew me away). I chose it against the SIII and the One X and other flagship phones due to it matching what I wanted. I loved most of the SIII, but I hated that it had a physical home button. The one x seemed nice, but I didn't like non expandable storage and an unremovable battery. The only thing I had against the LGOG was the battery being built in; however, everything else about it sold me. I feel that LG has finally made a phone worth it (2 phones counting the Nexus), and have the potential to beat Samsung. However, this is an uphill battle for LG. I personally have known people to pick the SIII just because Samsung is the most widely known. LG will have to fight against that in order to be purchased. Plus, people are more impressed by expensive phones, and sometimes buy the expensive ones because they assume those are the best. I really think that that, oddly enough, is also contributing to the LGOG having slightly lower sales numbers.
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LG has a fight with Samsung due to name recognition, and price drops may have had a negative effect. Many customers don't research phones thoroughly, and buy from a certain brand, or the expensive ones (because you get what you pay for).
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I'm happy for getting the phone for only $49, but I can't grasp the reason behind the price drop. OG is their only qualified flagship in years yet they are on sale at the price point of low-end giveaways. Granted it's probably just weekend promo but still, I find it odd to lower the price to this range in a non-holiday season.
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I'm happy for getting the phone for only $49, but I can't grasp the reason behind the price drop. OG is their only qualified flagship in years yet they are on sale at the price point of low-end giveaways. Granted it's probably just weekend promo but still, I find it odd to lower the price to this range in a non-holiday season.
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I think the reasoning behind the price drop is building for the future, if you get your best phone in as many hands possible, the people who by it recommend the brand to others and are more likely to buy lg in the future when its time to upgrade.
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I think the reasoning behind the price drop is building for the future, if you get your best phone in as many hands possible, the people who by it recommend the brand to others and are more likely to buy lg in the future when its time to upgrade.
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I know if any of my friends are looking into a new phone I will put in a good word for the OG. And that is funny because when it came out I originally looked at it and then went "Nah, I still want the One X."
By the time I was able to upgrade, the One X+ was out, at double the price of the OG and I didn't want an outdated phone. Now I'm not saying the One X isn't good, it had just already been replaced by a refresher phone.
I am soo happy with this phone.
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I know if any of my friends are looking into a new phone I will put in a good word for the OG. And that is funny because when it came out I originally looked at it and then went "Nah, I still want the One X."
By the time I was able to upgrade, the One X+ was out, at double the price of the OG and I didn't want an outdated phone. Now I'm not saying the One X isn't good, it had just already been replaced by a refresher phone.
I am soo happy with this phone.
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The Tegra 3 isn't all that great for speed or battery and I can't stand HTC's broken multitasking.
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The Tegra 3 isn't all that great for speed or battery and I can't stand HTC's broken multitasking.
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Half of the reason I made this decision.
I had a Sony Xperia X10 with an ancient 1Ghz snapdragon and then got an Asus Transformer with a Tegra 2...
So I was impressed more by Nvidia/Tegra at the time than Qualcomm/Snapdragon (I know, completely unfair).
But I had been reading everywhere that the S4 Pro was a beast and much better than Tegra 3s.
I don't like Sense anyways and I would have had a custom ROM, so the multitasking wasn't a big deal.
We have an extra gig of RAM to play with too. :highfive:
could it possibly be that the talk of the optimus g pro is throw the prices so low and being released soon.
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could it possibly be that the talk of the optimus g pro is throw the prices so low and being released soon.
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Doubt it. If the price stays low in states, doesn't bode well with G launch in Europe, unless LG do a dual tier launch of G & G Pro at the same time, but that's a remote possibility given G is set for March release in EU region.
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could it possibly be that the talk of the optimus g pro is throw the prices so low and being released soon.
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There's always something else around the corner. The Pro is likely months from hitting the U. S. on any carrier.
In all honesty, I'd still choose the G. I prefer the size and the 200mhz overclock would hardly be noticeable.
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There's always something else around the corner. The Pro is likely months from hitting the U. S. on any carrier.
In all honesty, I'd still choose the G. I prefer the size and the 200mhz overclock would hardly be noticeable.
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Completely agree. And it won't be long until we are able to overclock our phones too.
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There's always something else around the corner. The Pro is likely months from hitting the U. S. on any carrier.
In all honesty, I'd still choose the G. I prefer the size and the 200mhz overclock would hardly be noticeable.
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As I've heard before, "Don't chase technology 'cause you'll lose."
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Completely agree. And it won't be long until we are able to overclock our phones too.
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Not to mention that 1080p display will require more processing power making the speed difference negligible.
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Speaking critically of the android community for a brief second..
As much as people criticize Apple fans for putting too much value in brand name, a lot of Android fans are really overly zealous Samsung fanboys.
I won't say it's a bad brand or that the phones they make aren't nice.. But, taking a stroll to the Android subreddit you will find a lot of rabid Samsung fanboyism.
We hear less criticism of Samsung these days because they are just that popular.. still I remember as though it were yesterday people wouldn't shut up about how cheap the phones felt, how horrible various aspects of touchwiz were..
And sadly a lot of people won't even consider the LG OG because it's not Samsung.. but, if Samsung were to incorporate some of the LGOG features people would rave over it. I can see it now... slipping the LGOG specs and skin into a Samsung shell and hearing people brag and brag and act as though it Samsung were curing cancer.
Outside of that, honestly at $350 the N4 makes a hell of a deal. Even if you had a contract but, would like to keep your service without signing up for another 2 years would be a nice option.
Besides all of that? Well your average customer is told what to buy really. Speaking as a salesman I can tell you, if you don't know what you are buying, I'll be happy to tell you. (Granted I no longer work in sales but, it was a lesson learned.)
Edit: one final thought. I don't care because I'm honestly just that happy with it..... but, we still don't have an official cm10 port and that hurts us big time.
Consider this before buying. No flame intented. I simply was planning to get one myself then changed my mind.
http://www.phonedog.com/2013/04/10/i-want-htc-s-one-but-google-io-2013-has-me-worried/
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Consider this before buying. No flame intented. I simply was planning to get one myself then changed my mind.
http://www.phonedog.com/2013/04/10/i-want-htc-s-one-but-google-io-2013-has-me-worried/
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I'm not particularly worried; I actually posted some thoughts about Google I/O earlier today:
http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/10/4209366/a-prediction-for-google-i-o
I'm quite happy with Android 4.1, so I guess it depends what KLP brings, but it's hard to imagine Google bringing anything that would make me want to abandon HTC's awesome camera software (which is one of the reasons I personally prefer HTC phones).
I bought a One XL last year around the same time, and Google I/O didn't make me regret that decision. Besides, this time I'll have a One XL I can mess around with if I want to install CM11 or something.
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I'm not particularly worried; I actually posted some thoughts about Google I/O earlier today:
http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/10/4209366/a-prediction-for-google-i-o
I'm quite happy with Android 4.1, so I guess it depends what KLP brings, but it's hard to imagine Google bringing anything that would make me want to abandon HTC's awesome camera software (which is one of the reasons I personally prefer HTC phones).
I bought a One XL last year around the same time, and Google I/O didn't make me regret that decision. Besides, this time I'll have a One XL I can mess around with if I want to install CM11 or something.
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Precisely. Personally, I feel HTC is on the brink of a huge change, they've already dropped the source code and the phone hasn't even shipped in US yet! Also, it will definitely help to have the same device across several carriers (Even international ones!)
I feel the winds of change wafting from HTC and I must say, I love it.
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Precisely. Personally, I feel HTC is on the brink of a huge change, they've already dropped the source code and the phone hasn't even shipped in US yet! Also, it will definitely help to have the same device across several carriers (Even international ones!)
I feel the winds of change wafting from HTC and I must say, I love it.
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I am definitely super-excited that the international and NA versions of the HTC One use the same chipset - that was one of the big issues with the One X and One XL last year.
This phone will get key lime pie without a doubt.
The development will be huge for this device
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jkt97401 said:
I feel the winds of change wafting from HTC and I must say, I love it.
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Not to be the voice of doom or piss in anyone's Cheerios but HTC's in a world of hurt. The shipping delay for the One's cost them dearly financially and now its actual availability is going to bump up against Samsung's gazillion dollar marketing budget for the SGS4. Samsung also co-ops heavily with the U.S. carriers for advertising and provides big sales incentives down to the associate level. And if you walk in to a Best Buy you'll be greeted by Samsung's "Experience" sound and light show while a dummy One sits lonely and tethered to an end-cap somewhere next to a "free" LG Phone. With a Nexus 5 possible at I/O, an iP5s and lower-cost iPhone in June, Motorola's "Phone X," a Note III, and LG's 1080P 5" and 5.5" Optimus Pro Plus' all due by fall, the One's going to get lost in a sea of other devices a few months after launch because of HTC's (now even more) limited promotional budget. They have a tough road to hoe and 2013 will determine their future.
Here's an interesting discussion on HTC's current position from the international One forum...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2226471
Hmm I just sold my Nexus 4 because I never ever used it. It was never a real upgrade from the Galaxy Nexusnif you ask me. Adding a new processor and 1 extra GB of ram n a shiny back doesn't wow me
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I'm not particularly worried; I actually posted some thoughts about Google I/O earlier today:
http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/10/4209366/a-prediction-for-google-i-o
I'm quite happy with Android 4.1, so I guess it depends what KLP brings, but it's hard to imagine Google bringing anything that would make me want to abandon HTC's awesome camera software (which is one of the reasons I personally prefer HTC phones).
I bought a One XL last year around the same time, and Google I/O didn't make me regret that decision. Besides, this time I'll have a One XL I can mess around with if I want to install CM11 or something.
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I have a canon eos 60D. You might consider buying that if you give the camera such importance.
BarryH_GEG said:
Not to be the voice of doom or piss in anyone's Cheerios but HTC's in a world of hurt. The shipping delay for the One's cost them dearly financially and now its actual availability is going to bump up against Samsung's gazillion dollar marketing budget for the SGS4. Samsung also co-ops heavily with the U.S. carriers for advertising and provides big sales incentives down to the associate level. And if you walk in to a Best Buy you'll be greeted by Samsung's "Experience" sound and light show while a dummy One sits lonely and tethered to an end-cap somewhere next to a "free" LG Phone. With a Nexus 5 possible at I/O, an iP5s and lower-cost iPhone in June, Motorola's "Phone X," a Note III, and LG's 1080P 5" and 5.5" Optimus Pro Plus' all due by fall, the One's going to get lost in a sea of other devices a few months after launch because of HTC's (now even more) limited promotional budget. They have a tough road to hoe and 2013 will determine their future.
Here's an interesting discussion on HTC's current position from the international One forum...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2226471
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I'm 99% sure that the next Nexus phone won't be at I/O. Also, the 5s won't be much to write home about. The S models never are.
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THANKS A LOT:cyclops::cyclops:
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I have a canon eos 60D. You might consider buying that if you give the camera such importance.
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I prefer a smartphone camera that's always with me.
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YoungAceAtlanta said:
Hmm I just sold my Nexus 4 because I never ever used it. It was never a real upgrade from the Galaxy Nexusnif you ask me. Adding a new processor and 1 extra GB of ram n a shiny back doesn't wow me
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Then why are you here? Trolling?
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At least the writer is still getting the HTC one. Lol
Anyways there's always a new os comming out at io. A new nexus 5 ? Nah that's this fall.
A new nexus 7? Yes. Google glass? Yes.
Thew question is will HTC upgrade to 4.2 to 5.0 or from 4.1 to 5.0?
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expertzero1 said:
At least the writer is still getting the HTC one. Lol
Anyways there's always a new os comming out at io. A new nexus 5 ? Nah that's this fall.
A new nexus 7? Yes. Google glass? Yes.
Thew question is will HTC upgrade to 4.2 to 5.0 or from 4.1 to 5.0?
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I believe they will, considering this is HTC's flagship phone.
This is an easy one for me. I'll just keep my Nexus 4 around until I/O. If what Google shows at I/O wows me and I can get it on the Nexus 4, I'll consider selling the One, but DAMN, it would have to be some mind blowing software for me to give up such amazing hardware and go back to a slower processor, worse screen, worse camera, worse speaker, cheaper materials, and no LTE.
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This is an easy one for me. I'll just keep my Nexus 4 around until I/O. If what Google shows at I/O wows me and I can get it on the Nexus 4, I'll consider selling the One, but DAMN, it would have to be some mind blowing software for me to give up such amazing hardware and go back to a slower processor, worse screen, worse camera, worse speaker, cheaper materials, and no LTE.
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It will be. It is 5.0
Got me thinking...
Whole argument is stupid in my opinion. It's clearly cut black and white. If you want immediate updates to current version of android go for a nexus. If you want real hardware get the HTC One. Unless HTC builds a nexus the new one won't be special.
I don't know why people buy carrier subsidized phones then complain when it stays a version behind. The phone company is there to make money. Put on your big boy pants and go nexus or shut up about it. It's really that simple
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jmztaylor said:
Whole argument is stupid in my opinion. It's clearly cut black and white. If you want immediate updates to current version of android go for a nexus. If you want real hardware get the HTC One. Unless HTC builds a nexus the new one won't be special.
I don't know why people buy carrier subsidized phones then complain when it stays a version behind. The phone company is there to make money. Put on your big boy pants and go nexus or shut up about it. It's really that simple
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It must hurt you knowing your $600 phone will be 2 versions behind in only one month since it came out
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It must hurt you knowing your $600 phone will be 2 versions behind in only one month sonce it came out
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My point still stands. It's a phone, not a liver or heart that you have no choice on. My point is why ***** and moan about it when you yourself can do something about it and go elsewhere
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