Man this phone has everything
Best IPS screen
S4 Pro 4 Cores
Micro Sd slot
2100 battery
Its on top of all phones with its spec's.
And LG is still sleeping.
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I know and there is too little for advertising from lg, att or sprint, this phone is a killer in terms of specs and even for benchmarks its ways over any from Samsung, htc, iPhone.
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I think many people are aware of, but avoiding this phone because of LG's poor reputation with software updates. Also, the locked bootloader is reaaaaallly a dealbreaker.
I wish LG didn't lock the bootloader, everyone would be all over this phone and LG would finally be recognized as a legitimate option. But until they either get their act together with software updates or unlock the bootloader, I think this phone will probably be passed over by many
Normal people don't understand or care about locked bootloaders. Hell, most don't care about software updates either. LG needs to market this phone just like the S3, One X, iPhone, and get them moving off shelves.
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I think many people are aware of, but avoiding this phone because of LG's poor reputation with software updates. Also, the locked bootloader is reaaaaallly a dealbreaker.
I wish LG didn't lock the bootloader, everyone would be all over this phone and LG would finally be recognized as a legitimate option. But until they either get their act together with software updates or unlock the bootloader, I think this phone will probably be passed over by many
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From reports, LG didn't choose to lock the bootloader. AT&T set the requirement. Too bad AT&T is going to miss out on huge sales of this phone, as a direct result.
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From reports, LG didn't choose to lock the bootloader. AT&T set the requirement. Too bad AT&T is going to miss out on huge sales of this phone, as a direct result.
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Sprint's is also locked and sprint has never forced mfg's to lock devices, so that excuse is bullspit.
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Normal people don't understand or care about locked bootloaders. Hell, most don't care about software updates either. LG needs to market this phone just like the S3, One X, iPhone, and get them moving off shelves.
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This is true, but it helps to have a dedicated community to eventually drive sales out in the "normal" world. Think about it: Who is the guy (or girl) in your group of friends who gives the phone advice? If your answer was "Me," you get a gold star. XDA may be a small group of users, but we can exert influence outside of this website. Samsung isn't the most popular Android OEM because their phones are far and away the best devices. Samsung has the best updates, a fairly hassle-free dev environment without locked boot loaders, and they pimp their specs. HTC and LG can match them on specs, so what are they missing?
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This is true, but it helps to have a dedicated community to eventually drive sales out in the "normal" world. Think about it: Who is the guy (or girl) in your group of friends who gives the phone advice? If your answer was "Me," you get a gold star. XDA may be a small group of users, but we can exert influence outside of this website. Samsung isn't the most popular Android OEM because their phones are far and away the best devices. Samsung has the best updates, a fairly hassle-free dev environment without locked boot loaders, and they pimp their specs. HTC and LG can match them on specs, so what are they missing?
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Oh hell I should be on Sammy's payroll for the all the devices I've had people buy over the years...
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Oh hell I should be on Sammy's payroll for the all the devices I've had people buy over the years...
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Yeah, given the poor build quality, the sub-par radios, and their unwillingness to drop Exynos source, I'm surprised they are still in such good shape here. I saw, before I got rid of my i9300, that some heavy hitter devs were leaving because of Samsung's refusal to release the Exynos source.
Really, the formula is simple for Android domination: Build a powerful device with a great design and great materials (HTC One X w/ A15 SoC), be dev friendly (unlocked bootloader and release all source), run AOSP or have the CM or AOKP team build your ship ROMs, and update as fast as humanly possible after AOSP drops. LG is THIS close to having the formula, although they should have used the Exmor Rs BSI sensor, unlocked the bootloader, and released all of their proprietary source code.
I agree. This phone is a monster. Unlock. bootloader and and get aosp jellybean on it and its a wrap!
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I agree. This phone is a monster. Unlock. bootloader and and get aosp jellybean on it and its a wrap!
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Indeed. Still hesitant to pull the trigger on this, with the N4 so close, and the locked bootloader on this. This just has so much more potential, with LTE and the SD card.
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Yeah, given the poor build quality, the sub-par radios, and their unwillingness to drop Exynos source, I'm surprised they are still in such good shape here. I saw, before I got rid of my i9300, that some heavy hitter devs were leaving because of Samsung's refusal to release the Exynos source.
Really, the formula is simple for Android domination: Build a powerful device with a great design and great materials (HTC One X w/ A15 SoC), be dev friendly (unlocked bootloader and release all source), run AOSP or have the CM or AOKP team build your ship ROMs, and update as fast as humanly possible after AOSP drops. LG is THIS close to having the formula, although they should have used the Exmor Rs BSI sensor, unlocked the bootloader, and released all of their proprietary source code.
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Poor build quality? Yeah everyone says that, but I don't see it. Yes, it's plastic. All of my Samsung devices hold up just fine. Just because something has glass or metal on both sides doesn't make it better, it makes it heavier. I don't have any issues with *any* of the top tier phones when it comes to build quality.
And again, none of that is what makes the S3 a top seller. Marketing. Advertising. A decent product with decent support. That's what sells to the masses. How many people say "did you see that new commercial for the S3? Awesome"
Obviously what sells me on a phone and most XDA members is completely different.
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Poor build quality? Yeah everyone says that, but I don't see it. Yes, it's plastic. All of my Samsung devices hold up just fine. Just because something has glass or metal on both sides doesn't make it better, it makes it heavier. I don't have any issues with *any* of the top tier phones when it comes to build quality.
And again, none of that is what makes the S3 a top seller. Marketing. Advertising. A decent product with decent support. That's what sells to the masses. How many people say "did you see that new commercial for the S3? Awesome"
Obviously what sells me on a phone and most XDA members is completely different.
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The S3 creaks, the battery door is flimsy, and good luck finding a used S3 without scratches on the battery door or bezel. If you drop it from a normal standing height onto a hard surface, it's toast. When the iPhone is more durable than your device (The iPhone has always been built better, but not the most durable), you have issues, especially when that build is all plastic.
LG DOES need to do some advertising, and they should take a page out of the Samsung book and make fun of Samsung's last-gen hardware and flimsy build.
As for us, we can do a lot to sell phones. A vibrant developer community will draw interest.
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The S3 creaks, the battery door is flimsy, and good luck finding a used S3 without scratches on the battery door or bezel. If you drop it from a normal standing height onto a hard surface, it's toast. When the iPhone is more durable than your device (The iPhone has always been built better, but not the most durable), you have issues, especially when that build is all plastic.
LG DOES need to do some advertising, and they should take a page out of the Samsung book and make fun of Samsung's last-gen hardware and flimsy build.
As for us, we can do a lot to sell phones. A vibrant developer community will draw interest.
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I just sold my used S3 on XDA, it was flawless front and back. It's all in how you take care of it. I'm anal. Most people are not. As for the back plate getting scratched? Yep. I agree. It was a joke. The flimsy part? No. With the battery cover ON the phone, it felt perfectly normal to me. I never had creaking issues, or thought it felt flimsy. It's light weight plastic. I get it. I'm not defending Samsung, simply saying a lot of the "build quality" debates are personal opinion. I've seen Samsung phones take a beating for years and last no problem. Same with the iPhone. And I've also seen them both take minor drops and self destruct. Even with cases.
As for the LGOG, yeah I think it feels great. Better than the S3? Heck yeah. Much better. Do I really care? No. I'm more interested in the screen, and what's inside. Again, that's my own opinion.
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I just sold my used S3 on XDA, it was flawless front and back. It's all in how you take care of it. I'm anal. Most people are not. As for the back plate getting scratched? Yep. I agree. It was a joke. The flimsy part? No. With the battery cover ON the phone, it felt perfectly normal to me. I never had creaking issues, or thought it felt flimsy. It's light weight plastic. I get it. I'm not defending Samsung, simply saying a lot of the "build quality" debates are personal opinion. I've seen Samsung phones take a beating for years and last no problem. Same with the iPhone. And I've also seen them both take minor drops and self destruct. Even with cases.
As for the LGOG, yeah I think it feels great. Better than the S3? Heck yeah. Much better. Do I really care? No. I'm more interested in the screen, and what's inside. Again, that's my own opinion.
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I had two i9300's, and how cheap they felt bothered me. To each his own, I guess.
I like the OG screen, and just the five, or so, minutes I spent playing with it at AT&T was enough to impress me. That said, I may still go with the Nexus 4, just because the ease of modification. LTE and microSD are great upside, but I don't have LTE in my town (yet) and I can live with 16GB. I'm going to mull it over this weekend.
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Indeed. Still hesitant to pull the trigger on this, with the N4 so close, and the locked bootloader on this. This just has so much more potential, with LTE and the SD card.
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I'm in the same exact boat as you... The LTE and SD card would be really helpful.. especially because in San Diego we do have LTE and it's great. Plus this phone is 150$ cheaper than the 16GB N4 for AT&T users... ah god why do they make us face such decisions...
Though if this device runs so seamlessly with 4.0, I wonder what the N4 will be like once they get 4.2 all tweaked in, free of bloatware :fingers-crossed:
I agree on average though that LG and AT&T need to advertise this device more... I wonder if Samsung has AT&T by the balls still for advertising/marketing priority rights.
I agree on average though that LG and AT&T need to advertise this device more... I wonder if Samsung has AT&T by the balls still for advertising/marketing priority rights.[/QUOTE]
The thing is that, every time I call at&t store they advertise ( Get iPhone 5 when on hold) so Apple has them by the balls.
Seriously! They need to advertise more! With more advertisement comes more cases!!!
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A little over the top but they could air this commercial on cable and or regular tv infomercial style.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kge8aKlrNgg
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From reports, LG didn't choose to lock the bootloader. AT&T set the requirement. Too bad AT&T is going to miss out on huge sales of this phone, as a direct result.
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Though a locked bootloader is bad news for develeopers customers could really care less if anything about this. Tell the average person that the LG has its bootloader locked and they will look at you like you are from another planet.
With that said this LG phone is the best LG phone I have ever used. Still not enough to sway me away from the Note 2 though.
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maybe its cos the sdcard card and small battery ?
what else ?
People are drinking the Apple and Samsung kool-aid
Made some terrible decisions, invested heavily in audio beats. Got very complacent and gave the initiative to Samsung who took it both hands and ran with it.
Launched poor products no sd card, no removable battery latter not end of the word.
HTC one x was good but they shot themselves in the foot by not including ext sd card.
HTC will have to get a move on with htc j butterfly if they want to win back their fans from Samsung.
HTC J butterfly can turn it around for them if they sort themselves out.
I would go back to htc in a flash since their products look better then the plastic polished crap Samsung use.
btw I'm using galaxy note 2, best phone on the market, which I'm very happy with but hate the plastic crap.
Samsung and Apple both produce one core line of phone and push it across all carriers, at least for their main line phone. HTC produces custom phones and is inconsistent with there phones. They've produced top, middle and bottom tier phones which give consumers mixed feelings and not a consistent experience access the board. I think Samsung has done better at marketing to. HTC has great phones, and I believe the Chinese government will prop them up if they have to, they will bounce back.
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I'm glad this is happening because its going to force HTC to do what they used to do. Make phones that completely outmatched the competition. And when that happens and it will I'll gladly return.
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I think.its because they have too many phones, they need one phone on all carriers
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I think.its because they have too many phones, they need one phone on all carriers
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You right there HTC did spread themselves bit thin last year.
Focus one tablet, phablet, phone and that's it. I'm sure they will win over business unless Samsung drop their plastic craps.
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Poor business decisions and diminishing quality control will do that
Just basing this comment on some of my own experiences. I've never owned a Samsung so I can only go from what I've read/heard.
Currently on a Rezound and prior to that was the Dinc, Droid X2, Droid 2 Global and OG Droid (no particular order) Oh and the wife's iPhone 4S. Now some of my reasons, this is by far the WORST battery I have ever had. The Dinc wasn't terrible but I did expect more.
I believe part of the reason is the overlay of Sense. I loved it when I first used it now I'm just tired of it and I'm sure others are as well. You don't get the true experience of the Android OS which is extremely noticeable with the release of ICS. Lets not forget if your running true ICS and what a little Sense flavor there are countless Widgets to download.
Pile on everything mentioned above and you have a receipe for disaster.
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Typically, profits fall when a number of situations occur, all of which affect the bottom line and make investors unhappy.
1 - Fixed costs are too high relative to sales - the cost of running the business (people's salaries and benefits, office space, etc.)
2 - Sales are lower than forecasts - competitors took market share away that HTC was planning on having but didn't get (Apple, Samsung, etc.)
A way to offset high fixed costs is to move jobs to countries where labor costs are lower for salaried and hourly jobs. The trend with tech companies is to establish facilities in China near the supply base. Not only do you reduce fixed costs, but you also reduce freight costs - freight on board is reduced (the transit time for inbound materials to the manufacturing facilities is significantly reduced so money isn't tied up into materials while the materials are being shipped point to point), expediting costs aren't as much of a necessity because materials aren't traveling half way around the world if production was in North America but materials are coming from Taiwan for example... There are a lot of pluses from a corporate profit standpoint as you can see.
When sales are lower than forecasts, quarterly earnings targets are missed and investors never like to see that. Investors have a major interest in quarterly projections and in companies being able to hit their targets. Investors are very quick to leap to conclusions about a company's future when a quarterly report announces that targets have been missed. Stock prices are adversely affected and investors look at other options that can make them more money. If quarter after quarter, the story continues to be consistent, the company's Board of Directors starts to get antsy and they put major pressure on the CEO and CFO to get back on track. Many C-level executives lose their jobs because of quarterly and annual losses. Talk about pressure!
Investors want to see profits that not only meet expectation, but they also want to see smart decisions being made for long term profitability. I haven't personally followed HTC's news but I'm concerned with the recent declaration that HTC isn't doing well financially. I'll be checking out some facts this weekend so thanks for the post!
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You right there HTC did spread themselves bit thin last year.
Focus one tablet, phablet, phone and that's it. I'm sure they will win over business unless Samsung drop their plastic craps.
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I completely agree. I think it's the main problem with Android distribution method. If each carrier only had a handful of devices, the better.
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I completely agree. I think it's the main problem with Android distribution method. If each carrier only had a handful of devices, the better.
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I agree with this. If HTC went to a few flagship models, and they used those hardware models for all the carriers, they could focus more on getting those smartphones right, with both hardware and software.
I know people don't want to hear this but as someone who absolutely loves Android, I still feel that apple makes a hell of a device. I would like to see HTC use the resources that are so spread out currently, and focus on making a few top tier phones that are of that same build quality as the iPhone or the couple of Android phones that came close over the years.
But I also feel that way about Android in general. I would like to see Google start to have higher standards for devices from manufacturers, and instead of making android work good on a million and one devices, make it work incredibly well on a smaller number of devices.
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Just basing this comment on some of my own experiences. I've never owned a Samsung so I can only go from what I've read/heard.
Currently on a Rezound and prior to that was the Dinc, Droid X2, Droid 2 Global and OG Droid (no particular order) Oh and the wife's iPhone 4S. Now some of my reasons, this is by far the WORST battery I have ever had. The Dinc wasn't terrible but I did expect more.
I believe part of the reason is the overlay of Sense. I loved it when I first used it now I'm just tired of it and I'm sure others are as well. You don't get the true experience of the Android OS which is extremely noticeable with the release of ICS. Lets not forget if your running true ICS and what a little Sense flavor there are countless Widgets to download.
Pile on everything mentioned above and you have a receipe for disaster.
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You're on XDA and there are 99% stable AOSP ROMs available. Get on it
Too many android devices. With every different brand putting out new phones every couple months, there will be large fluctuation in any company profits.
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You're on XDA and there are 99% stable AOSP ROMs available. Get on it
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He means straight out of the box.
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I agree with this. If HTC went to a few flagship models, and they used those hardware models for all the carriers, they could focus more on getting those smartphones right, with both hardware and software.
I know people don't want to hear this but as someone who absolutely loves Android, I still feel that apple makes a hell of a device. I would like to see HTC use the resources that are so spread out currently, and focus on making a few top tier phones that are of that same build quality as the iPhone or the couple of Android phones that came close over the years.
But I also feel that way about Android in general. I would like to see Google start to have higher standards for devices from manufacturers, and instead of making android work good on a million and one devices, make it work incredibly well on a smaller number of devices.
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Nexus!
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He means straight out of the box.
Nexus!
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If HTC would have had better designs in the last year, Google would have picked them for the nexus 4
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OK, so i was thinking about either getting this phone or waiting to see what shows up at CES.
I know CES is tomorrow so i was wondering if a phone that has better specs comes out.
If You guys can recommend a phone or even give a suggestion i would greatly appreciate it.
I'm used to the Motorola atrix 2 if that helps
I need it to be AT&T and be running at least ICS but preferably JB
I have to wait til March for an upgrade
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The LGOG has ICS but runs like JB. Imagine the power it'll have when it gets JB.
The way mobile technology has been speeding along, by March, something with better specs will definitely be out/announced. Then you'll just have a short wait till you can get your hands on it. Today, I would absolutely recommend this phone. Best specs out there but, cmon, by March you probably need to be looking ahead.
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There will always a better phone around the corner. At some point you have jump in.
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In all honesty... I would wait to take a look at what the Galaxy S4 will bring since you have to wait until March anyway.
Galaxy S4 will have a huge selection of accessories and ROMs
However,
I have chosen the LGOG for the following reasons:
1. My upgrade was close to its release.
2. I paid $100 for a phone-beast.
3. It is the first quad-core phone with LTE on AT&T.
4. The display is not 5 inches or more.
5. It is basically a nicer Nexus 4. (I have learned that hardware as close to the current Nexus device as possible is a very safe bet)
6. The last phone that I though was this sexy was a Nexus One. This thing is gorgeous.
thanks guys
Thank you to all who replied
I think all the wow factor phones are getting held up for mobile world congress next month. All I really saw so far that was interesting was the new xperia ZL or whatever it was, but given sony's track record there will be an updated version by march.
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If you're going to be waiting until spring, I'd keep my eyes out for devices using the upcoming SnapDragon 600 or 800 processors that were just announced. The specs on these chipsets are amazing...40 to 75 percent more powerful than our Snapdragon S4 Pro processors.
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If you're going to be waiting until spring, I'd keep my eyes out for devices using the upcoming SnapDragon 600 or 800 processors that were just announced. The specs on these chipsets are amazing...40 to 75 percent more powerful than our Snapdragon S4 Pro processors.
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DAMMIT QUALCOMM... take a break... let me enjoy this feeling for a while.
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DAMMIT QUALCOMM... take a break... let me enjoy this feeling for a while.
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That's the way of the gadget world. As soon as you buy the latest and greatest, it's already obsolete.
Take comfort that everyone who buys one of those new Qualcomm chipped phones will be surpassed just as quickly by the next thing to come out.
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Take comfort that everyone who buys one of those new Qualcomm chipped phones will be surpassed just as quickly by the next thing to come out.
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I can't wait. :B
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Take comfort that everyone who buys one of those new Qualcomm chipped phones will be surpassed just as quickly by the next thing to come out.
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This makes me feel better... slightly.
I won't ever consider a Sony phone, especially on AT&T, given that their phones come with locked bootloaders that can't be unlocked. International versions are easily unlocked. By Sony. Just not the US versions. I should know, I had a Sony Xperia Play phone for a while and I recently returned an Xperia TL.
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The thing that kills me, and this isn't an attack, is that a lot of people are like "I would NEVER get this phone because it's made by this!"
Like me, I personally don't like Samsung. And I make it a point to not buy their phones.
Sony's I have no experience with and I've only had an LG twice (this phone and a flip phone when I was 14).
But my point is people say they hate LG for whatever reason and then sell this phone and by the N4, which yknow, made by LG.
Again, not at attack! I was simply doing research on when the N5 was coming out and all these people are like, I HATE LG, NEXUS ALL THE WAY (sent from my N4). It's just laughable.
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The thing that kills me, and this isn't an attack, is that a lot of people are like "I would NEVER get this phone because it's made by this!"
Like me, I personally don't like Samsung. And I make it a point to not buy their phones.
Sony's I have no experience with and I've only had an LG twice (this phone and a flip phone when I was 14).
But my point is people say they hate LG for whatever reason and then sell this phone and by the N4, which yknow, made by LG.
Again, not at attack! I was simply doing research on when the N5 was coming out and all these people are like, I HATE LG, NEXUS ALL THE WAY (sent from my N4). It's just laughable.
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I hope they were being ironic... and not moronic.
I only had Sony's first Android phone.
It was meh, I heard they did better after that.
It is AT&T I would never buy.
They are a terrible and lock down all their phones.
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I'm going to have to say the latter, lol.
Funny enough one of those people was AndreaCr.
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I hope they were being ironic... and not moronic.
I only had Sony's first Android phone.
It was meh, I heard they did better after that.
It is AT&T I would never buy.
They are a terrible and lock down all their phones.
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FWIW, they did much better. Their newest Xperia Z(L) looks like magnificent work of art.
As long as you're waiting, see what the S4 has to offer. Samsung's have custom ROM's about 7 hours after the first go on sale. Also, by then, the development on this phone should really be kicking into high gear (knock on wood). Also, you might catch wind of the LGOG2 then.
However, at some point there is about only so much power you're going to need in a handset that everything else becomes overkill. These phones are almost as powerful/fast as a mid-level laptop, but you don't want to type out a long word doc on them or edit an excel file. Finally, this will probably cost a coke and a smile by then compared to the S4 or LGOG2.
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I'm going to have to say the latter, lol.
Funny enough one of those people was AndreaCr.
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Haha! Now in the N4 forums.
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FWIW, they did much better. Their newest Xperia Z(L) looks like magnificent work of art.
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Yeah, I love the aesthetics of the xperia phones... haven't looked that one up yet though.
I would never judge a phone by it's manufacturer.
Look at Motorola. We went from the original Verizon Droid to the piece of sh**t Backflip on AT&T. Then we have the Atrix 4g, which in my experience had nice specs, but overall was a terrible quality phone.
HTC use to be the kind of Android phones, and now they have dropped off. (Look at their latest earnings).
Also do not forget the earliest Android offering by Samsung that I can remember - Samsung Moment for Sprint. That thing was all kids of ugly and slow.
I used to work for an eBay reseller, and played with 100 - 150 phones per day. Manufacturer is really irrelevant. You have to look at the unit as in individual.
I get that it's not a Nexus 4 and it's around $100 more off contract. I also get that the GS3 has more brand awareness, but this is a really awesome phone. I actually think the LG skin is good and adds a lot of functionality over stock Android.
I have a GS3, Note II, iPhone 5, and Lumia 920. This is my favorite phone out of all of them. The screen, feel in the hand, speed, and software touches make it almost a perfect device. Battery life has been good and my only real complaint is that the camera could have been better.
So what's holding it back? Marketing? I know LG has stumbled in the past, but this is not one of those times. I honestly probably wouldn't have even thought to buy the phone if not for the article about Consumer Reports rating it above the iPhone 5 and GS3 in customer satisfaction. I had to see what it was about and fell in love with it right away in the store.
As it stands, I couldn't recommend this phone more highly to people on AT&T who want an Android phone. I would definitely recommend it over the GS3, and that's saying a lot. The lack of activity in these forums, along with the sparse development tells me that it's definitely not getting into enough hands, and that's unfortunate.
LG's has a rather tarnished reputation as far as smartphone is concerned, they've had long lines of disappointing and mediocre mid-tier releases over the years plus poor record of software updates. Even with a phone like OG, it's going to take awhile to reboot their image.
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LG's has a rather tarnished reputation as far as smartphone is concerned, they've had long lines of disappointing and mediocre mid-tier releases over the years plus poor record of software updates. Even with a phone like OG, it's going to take awhile to reboot their image.
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Nuff Said.
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It's got 1M users, so I'd say it's selling well for a phone not made by Apple, Samsung, or HTC.
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It's got 1M users, so I'd say it's selling well for a phone not made by Apple, Samsung, or HTC.
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That's definitely encouraging, but it could be much better and the forums are a ghost town comparatively.
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http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_briefly_makes_it_2nd_top_phone_manufacturer_in_the_us-news-5371.php
I've not been a great fan of LG until this phone. I briefly considered that 3d camera phone from 2011 on AT&T that LG made, but ultimately chose the SII (and I made the right choice; I was one more f-ed up phone from buying an iphone). This phone impressed me in reviews and in stores (the demos blew me away). I chose it against the SIII and the One X and other flagship phones due to it matching what I wanted. I loved most of the SIII, but I hated that it had a physical home button. The one x seemed nice, but I didn't like non expandable storage and an unremovable battery. The only thing I had against the LGOG was the battery being built in; however, everything else about it sold me. I feel that LG has finally made a phone worth it (2 phones counting the Nexus), and have the potential to beat Samsung. However, this is an uphill battle for LG. I personally have known people to pick the SIII just because Samsung is the most widely known. LG will have to fight against that in order to be purchased. Plus, people are more impressed by expensive phones, and sometimes buy the expensive ones because they assume those are the best. I really think that that, oddly enough, is also contributing to the LGOG having slightly lower sales numbers.
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LG has a fight with Samsung due to name recognition, and price drops may have had a negative effect. Many customers don't research phones thoroughly, and buy from a certain brand, or the expensive ones (because you get what you pay for).
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I'm happy for getting the phone for only $49, but I can't grasp the reason behind the price drop. OG is their only qualified flagship in years yet they are on sale at the price point of low-end giveaways. Granted it's probably just weekend promo but still, I find it odd to lower the price to this range in a non-holiday season.
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I'm happy for getting the phone for only $49, but I can't grasp the reason behind the price drop. OG is their only qualified flagship in years yet they are on sale at the price point of low-end giveaways. Granted it's probably just weekend promo but still, I find it odd to lower the price to this range in a non-holiday season.
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I think the reasoning behind the price drop is building for the future, if you get your best phone in as many hands possible, the people who by it recommend the brand to others and are more likely to buy lg in the future when its time to upgrade.
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I think the reasoning behind the price drop is building for the future, if you get your best phone in as many hands possible, the people who by it recommend the brand to others and are more likely to buy lg in the future when its time to upgrade.
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I know if any of my friends are looking into a new phone I will put in a good word for the OG. And that is funny because when it came out I originally looked at it and then went "Nah, I still want the One X."
By the time I was able to upgrade, the One X+ was out, at double the price of the OG and I didn't want an outdated phone. Now I'm not saying the One X isn't good, it had just already been replaced by a refresher phone.
I am soo happy with this phone.
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I know if any of my friends are looking into a new phone I will put in a good word for the OG. And that is funny because when it came out I originally looked at it and then went "Nah, I still want the One X."
By the time I was able to upgrade, the One X+ was out, at double the price of the OG and I didn't want an outdated phone. Now I'm not saying the One X isn't good, it had just already been replaced by a refresher phone.
I am soo happy with this phone.
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The Tegra 3 isn't all that great for speed or battery and I can't stand HTC's broken multitasking.
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The Tegra 3 isn't all that great for speed or battery and I can't stand HTC's broken multitasking.
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Half of the reason I made this decision.
I had a Sony Xperia X10 with an ancient 1Ghz snapdragon and then got an Asus Transformer with a Tegra 2...
So I was impressed more by Nvidia/Tegra at the time than Qualcomm/Snapdragon (I know, completely unfair).
But I had been reading everywhere that the S4 Pro was a beast and much better than Tegra 3s.
I don't like Sense anyways and I would have had a custom ROM, so the multitasking wasn't a big deal.
We have an extra gig of RAM to play with too. :highfive:
could it possibly be that the talk of the optimus g pro is throw the prices so low and being released soon.
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could it possibly be that the talk of the optimus g pro is throw the prices so low and being released soon.
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Doubt it. If the price stays low in states, doesn't bode well with G launch in Europe, unless LG do a dual tier launch of G & G Pro at the same time, but that's a remote possibility given G is set for March release in EU region.
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could it possibly be that the talk of the optimus g pro is throw the prices so low and being released soon.
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There's always something else around the corner. The Pro is likely months from hitting the U. S. on any carrier.
In all honesty, I'd still choose the G. I prefer the size and the 200mhz overclock would hardly be noticeable.
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There's always something else around the corner. The Pro is likely months from hitting the U. S. on any carrier.
In all honesty, I'd still choose the G. I prefer the size and the 200mhz overclock would hardly be noticeable.
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Completely agree. And it won't be long until we are able to overclock our phones too.
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There's always something else around the corner. The Pro is likely months from hitting the U. S. on any carrier.
In all honesty, I'd still choose the G. I prefer the size and the 200mhz overclock would hardly be noticeable.
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As I've heard before, "Don't chase technology 'cause you'll lose."
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Completely agree. And it won't be long until we are able to overclock our phones too.
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Not to mention that 1080p display will require more processing power making the speed difference negligible.
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Speaking critically of the android community for a brief second..
As much as people criticize Apple fans for putting too much value in brand name, a lot of Android fans are really overly zealous Samsung fanboys.
I won't say it's a bad brand or that the phones they make aren't nice.. But, taking a stroll to the Android subreddit you will find a lot of rabid Samsung fanboyism.
We hear less criticism of Samsung these days because they are just that popular.. still I remember as though it were yesterday people wouldn't shut up about how cheap the phones felt, how horrible various aspects of touchwiz were..
And sadly a lot of people won't even consider the LG OG because it's not Samsung.. but, if Samsung were to incorporate some of the LGOG features people would rave over it. I can see it now... slipping the LGOG specs and skin into a Samsung shell and hearing people brag and brag and act as though it Samsung were curing cancer.
Outside of that, honestly at $350 the N4 makes a hell of a deal. Even if you had a contract but, would like to keep your service without signing up for another 2 years would be a nice option.
Besides all of that? Well your average customer is told what to buy really. Speaking as a salesman I can tell you, if you don't know what you are buying, I'll be happy to tell you. (Granted I no longer work in sales but, it was a lesson learned.)
Edit: one final thought. I don't care because I'm honestly just that happy with it..... but, we still don't have an official cm10 port and that hurts us big time.
I've had the DNA since day 1, and I really like it. I'm one of those guys that likes to have the latest and greatest phone, and was excited when the S4 was first announced. But seeing as how it's just a quad-core, not an octa-core, my excitement has weened a bit. I'm really trying to decide whether or not I should upgrade. The only pluses I see from the S4 are expandable memory, better battery, and the camera. I also kind of like how the LED screens look. I don't really care about the special bells and whistles. ( Eye detection, touchless answering, ect)
I know this is a the DNA section, so most of us are biased, but in reality, should I upgrade or just hold onto my DNA and wait for the next big thing?
It sounds like a feature packed phone, however I would probably end up disabling most of them. If you really want to use an external sd card and removeable battery then the S4 is for you.
Don't feel disappointed because it doesn't have the Octo-core, I can't think if any situation that would need that much processing power. However there was a review that said the S4 wasn't as smooth/snappy as the One and this was blamed on Touchwiz and all those extra features in the phone.
I've always been a die hard HTC guy, coming from the Incredible to the Rezound and finally the DNA. However, I did have a brief Samsung affair...in between my Rezound and my DNA I had a Galaxy S3, and I really liked it a lot. There was just something about it that I really loved...I couldn't put my finger on what it was.
But when the newness wore off, I was left with a device I had to use day in and day out, and relied on to make and receive calls. That's where the Samsung started to show its weakness. After that experience, combined with the experiences some friends and family had with their Fascinates, there's no way I'd give up my HTC for a similarly spec'ed Samsung. Their components just aren't as good, especially their radios.
I have no doubt the S4 would be an amazing device and you'd surely love it, but in the end when the honeymoon is over, you'll have a very marginal spec upgrade over the DNA and you'll be stuck with Samsung's mediocre internals.
Just my two cents.
I do like the S4 (and S3), but the only reason I would switch is for removable memory. But the fact is that I stream all of my music and movies... that leaves me more than enough room for anything else.
Love my DNA until the new hotness comes out.
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It sounds like a feature packed phone, however I would probably end up disabling most of them. If you really want to use an external sd card and removeable battery then the S4 is for you.
Don't feel disappointed because it doesn't have the Octo-core, I can't think if any situation that would need that much processing power. However there was a review that said the S4 wasn't as smooth/snappy as the One and this was blamed on Touchwiz and all those extra features in the phone.
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You can't use all 8 cores at once anyway. It's 2 separate 4 core processors, 1 4 core high power one and a 4 core low power one.
The majority of the new features on the S4 are really gimmicky. Hover instead of touching the actual screen, moving your head up and down to scroll. All sound fun, but in real life are completely useless and more work than the normal way of getting stuff done on your phone. So really it'd just be a matter of specs, in which case the S4 in my opinion doesn't have a lot over the DNA.
probably shouldnt expect completely unbiased reviews from a dna forum.
ask the same question in the s4 forum and you'll get different answers and maybe a response from somebody who switched from dna to s4 and why.
good luck.
No reason whatsoever
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One word.. "resale". The sooner you upgrade, the more money you get. The easier it is to stay on top of the cell phone game.
Plus, galaxies seem to hold their value a little better than HTC.
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One word.. "resale". The sooner you upgrade, the more money you get. The easier it is to stay on top of the cell phone game.
Plus, galaxies seem to hold their value a little better than HTC.
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That's sort of what I was thinking. But even if I get $350-$400 for my DNA, I still have to spend a good bit for the galaxy. Retail on those is pretty steep.
The overwhelming adaption from devs, removable battery/storage will do it for me.
The thing that pushes it over the edge is that all models (except AT&T's, and the ones that have shown up so far) have unlocked bootloaders from the get-go in true Samsung style.
Berzerker7 said:
The overwhelming adaption from devs, removable battery/storage will do it for me.
The thing that pushes it over the edge is that all US models have unlocked bootloaders from the get-go in true Samsung style.
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Att and vzw don't unless that's changed.
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Att and vzw don't unless that's changed.
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AT&T doesn't, but all of the rest are. While that doesn't give good hopes for Verizon, since it hasn't actually shown up yet to anyone, even if it is locked, it wouldn't be very long before it's cracked open.
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AT&T doesn't, but all of the rest are. While that doesn't give good hopes for Verizon, since it hasn't actually shown up yet to anyone, even if it is locked, it wouldn't be very long before it's cracked open.
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Thought someone mentioned Samsung said those were both locked, can't remember where I saw it though...
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No reason at all. A marginal upgrade and sans the gimmicky features, an inferior UI. My opinion only.
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Yup. Because specs are an upgrade, despite how marginal... Extreme dev support. And cmon, who wouldnt live to use their phone instead of looking for the tv remote
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In the att thread someone reported the s4 locked not sure how credible it is but having had the s3 both variants and the EVO LTE most of what Sammy offers is gimmicks Ull show ur friends for a few weeks than get bored . HTC ones design is amazing the feel the solidness screen is great I'm getting the I9500 cause I hate the US galaxy threads to much comparing infact with my I9300 way to many US users trolled and or flashed roms bricking there phones that was annoying . I'd wait to go in test it out than decide .
Sorry for rambling
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Verizon had no news about it but I read on Android Central the Qualcomm s4 has a root method. Idk about the ****loader.
http://www.androidcentral.com/qualcomm-based-galaxy-s4-models-now-have-root-method
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If it comes to Verizon expect it to be locked.
I'd hate to have to switch carriers because of locked phones. I will go back to Sprint if I have too. Find out in October when all of my contracts will be up. Verizon LTE is great but I don't use it enough to suffer with Verizon's BS not sure who they think they are but they aren't the only wireless carrier in the US.
Got the G2 on launch day from a Verizon store here in town. Phone is great, no doubt about that. What worries me is that this appears to be a hero phone without much demand. HTC has done a great job of marketing the One, and everyone knows Moto. The G2 on display at the Verizon store is jammed between an iPhone and an older model Samsung something-or-other with no signage other than a huge "Samsung Galaxy" poster on the wall behind it.
If I keep this, it will be the third device in a row that I've bought as a "flagship" which wound up getting the cold shoulder in many ways.
First I had the HTC Incredible, probably the most popular of the bunch. While it did have ROM development, it was quickly forgotten when the HTC EVO came out seemingly a week later. Accessories were few and far between.
Second was the Galaxy Nexus, heralded as a "Google experience" device on Verizon. After endless launch delays, it came out and was quickly forgotten by Verizon and Google both. Accessories were few and far between.
Now I have the LG G2, a great device with awesome specs! I actually don't mind the Verizon/LG "skin" on this so much. But again, Verizon had to **** it up with changing the buttons and making the thing thicker. Accessories will be practically nil for this device other than the three cases from Verizon at launch. There will be countless Chinese imports that will claim to fit but will not, because the back-alley factories making this crap don't give a damn about doing anything per spec. Just make it look vaguely correct and slap a knock off hello-kitty design on the back and call 'er done! "Your Happy Plastic Partner" indeed!
I am also afraid that development will completely stall on this device because everyone will head to the Nexus 5...
Sigh... I should just go trade for an HTC One, I think... I don't know. I am torn.
The moto x isn't selling well (att rep who owns a moto x said he hasn't been able sell a single one) HTC marketing well, are you kidding? They are losing money head over heels even with the one. They only thing with LG is, they have a very small market share they are not Apple or Samsung.
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This forum seems pretty active. I think anyone who develops knows about the phone. Give it some time. Rome wasn't built in a day.
Darkestred said:
This forum seems pretty active. I think anyone who develops knows about the phone. Give it some time. Rome wasn't built in a day.
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Yep. Welcome to new xda forum syndrome. This is what a new device forum looks like the first week ?
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DeaconBoogie said:
Got the G2 on launch day from a Verizon store here in town. Phone is great, no doubt about that. What worries me is that this appears to be a hero phone without much demand. HTC has done a great job of marketing the One, and everyone knows Moto. The G2 on display at the Verizon store is jammed between an iPhone and an older model Samsung something-or-other with no signage other than a huge "Samsung Galaxy" poster on the wall behind it.
If I keep this, it will be the third device in a row that I've bought as a "flagship" which wound up getting the cold shoulder in many ways.
First I had the HTC Incredible, probably the most popular of the bunch. While it did have ROM development, it was quickly forgotten when the HTC EVO came out seemingly a week later. Accessories were few and far between.
Second was the Galaxy Nexus, heralded as a "Google experience" device on Verizon. After endless launch delays, it came out and was quickly forgotten by Verizon and Google both. Accessories were few and far between.
Now I have the LG G2, a great device with awesome specs! I actually don't mind the Verizon/LG "skin" on this so much. But again, Verizon had to **** it up with changing the buttons and making the thing thicker. Accessories will be practically nil for this device other than the three cases from Verizon at launch. There will be countless Chinese imports that will claim to fit but will not, because the back-alley factories making this crap don't give a damn about doing anything per spec. Just make it look vaguely correct and slap a knock off hello-kitty design on the back and call 'er done! "Your Happy Plastic Partner" indeed!
I am also afraid that development will completely stall on this device because everyone will head to the Nexus 5...
Sigh... I should just go trade for an HTC One, I think... I don't know. I am torn.
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If you're worried about development checck the lg optimus g's thread its still going today http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2339403
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razball said:
If you're worried about development checck the lg optimus g's thread its still going today h://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2339403
That link is for p.a.
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I feel the op pain I had the G pro witch I felt was the most underrated phone ever and coming from the note 2 it was way better than the note2 and the G pro was DOA LG has zero marketing as well as a very bad reputation of leaving customers out to dry as far as updates. LG makes bad ass phones no doubt but needs a lot of work in marketing and support
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I feel the op pain I had the G pro witch I felt was the most underrated phone ever and coming from the note 2 it was way better than the note2 and the G pro was DOA LG has zero marketing as well as a very bad reputation of leaving customers out to dry as far as updates. LG makes bad ass phones no doubt but needs a lot of work in marketing and support
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True. That's the literal only thing that worries me... updates. Moto x I'm sure will beat g2 to updates (the other phone I have) but that's the only plus for the phone other than size.
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True. That's the literal only thing that worries me... updates. Moto x I'm sure will beat g2 to updates (the other phone I have) but that's the only plus for the phone other than size.
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I'll never own another moto, there like Apple always one or two years behind in hardware, I mean really 720p??!!! Duel core??
DaT Franchise said:
I'll never own another moto, there like Apple always one or two years behind in hardware, I mean really 720p??!!! Duel core??
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Specs or no specs, anyone I know that has or has tried a MotoX loved it. I think whats killing them is the $199 for a 16GB non-expandable phone, sitting right next to a 32GB Galaxy S4 and HTC One for 149, the LG G2 for 199, etc.
And their goal with that phone WASNT balls to the wall specs....it was supposed to reliable and economical (but again the high price question still applies)
I have used the moto x and can tell you the 720 display and processor really are fine. The software enhancements kick total ass. That being said this phone Absolutely destroys it on every front. I absolutely hate amoled. Way too dim.
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Specs or no specs, anyone I know that has or has tried a MotoX loved it. I think whats killing them is the $199 for a 16GB non-expandable phone, sitting right next to a 32GB Galaxy S4 and HTC One for 149, the LG G2 for 199, etc.
And their goal with that phone WASNT balls to the wall specs....it was supposed to reliable and economical (but again the high price question still applies)
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I agree with u on price, but every moto sense the OG X has been one step behind with there flagship phones
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Specs or no specs, anyone I know that has or has tried a MotoX loved it. I think whats killing them is the $199 for a 16GB non-expandable phone, sitting right next to a 32GB Galaxy S4 and HTC One for 149, the LG G2 for 199, etc.
And their goal with that phone WASNT balls to the wall specs....it was supposed to reliable and economical (but again the high price question still applies)
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This. Everything is fine with the moto x, and I'd still be using it if the battery was decent but lately I've been getting idle drain that I can't figure out. As for amoled, it's great indoors, terrible outside. If LG steps their game up with update frequency I have no problem keeping this phone for a long time. Same goes for the moto x if I was somehow getting the 5+ hours of screen on time per day some people are reporting. Oh, and one grip with lg. Why is there not an option to make the buttons on the bottom like aosp to have the recent apps button and not just the menu...
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If the LG G2 dont get rom support and community love i'll be surprised. I say this because its a flagship device from LG and available on all 4 major carriers; just like the htc one, galaxy phones & moto x. We just need a unlocked bootloader.
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If the LG G2 dont get rom support and community love i'll be surprised. I say this because its a flagship device from LG and available on all 4 major carriers; just like the htc one, galaxy phones & moto x. We just need a unlocked bootloader.
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And the fact that they aren't as high profile as the other brands might mean it's easier to unlock
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krazie1 said:
If the LG G2 dont get rom support and community love i'll be surprised. I say this because its a flagship device from LG and available on all 4 major carriers; just like the htc one, galaxy phones & moto x. We just need a unlocked bootloader.
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I hope so, it was sad to see the G pro DOA. I'm still holding out to see what Scott does, I'm sure the FreeG guys will get the bootloader bypassed
DeaconBoogie said:
Sigh... I should just go trade for an HTC One, I think... I don't know. I am torn.
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No, you do NOT want an HTC One. I just sold my One for the G2...the G2 completely destroys the One in every way except for speakers and construction material, which are two minor things IMO since I prefer using headphones and the G2 feels solid/premium even though it's not metal. The One IS a great phone, but not as great as the G2. I really don't care if the G2 isn't bought in mass by the masses because I know I have a great phone and that's all that matters. I will be a little disappointed if there aren't many custom roms, but I'm OK with that because the stock rom is super smooth and customizable, plus I will be less tempted to constantly swap roms if there aren't many available
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. Oh, and one grip with lg. Why is there not an option to make the buttons on the bottom like aosp to have the recent apps button and not just the menu...
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Maybe it's just me, but I'm starting to like the menu button instead of the multi tasking one. I don't have to look around for that 3 dot menu button on the screen anymore.
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And the fact that they aren't as high profile as the other brands might mean it's easier to unlock
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Wishful thinking, but if its true I'm an LG fan from now on. Maybe since they made and/or making the new nexus they are more lenient to unlocked bootloaders?
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Wishful thinking, but if its true I'm an LG fan from now on. Maybe since they made and/or making the new nexus they are more lenient to unlocked bootloaders?
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Actually I think the blame for locked bootloaders falls on the carriers, not the manufacturer. S4 is unlocked but not on VZW, etc.
LG will do whatever VZW tells them (or lets them). But VZW may not care if they really dont think this phone will sell well, or if they arent marketing it very much (which, as we can tell, they are NOT)
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Actually I think the blame for locked bootloaders falls on the carriers, not the manufacturer. S4 is unlocked but not on VZW, etc.
LG will do whatever VZW tells them (or lets them). But VZW may not care if they really dont think this phone will sell well, or if they arent marketing it very much (which, as we can tell, they are NOT)
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They aren't marketing it AT ALL. I've seen some Droid Maxx commercials though and an even recent Moto X commercial but zero for the LG G2.