I found this topic http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1707177 can someone try to port sense from HTC flyer to mediapad?
really nobody wants to try to port htc flyer's honeycomb rom? my dev skills arent big enough to do it
You can't make any sense-related rom for any device without HTC firmware, or based on htc firmware. The whole Sense thong is too hard-coded with the firmware (which of course requires particular hw), so it's impossible to make what you want.
I saw Sense ported on some samsung devices (sense4all project)
Well I am impressed, to be honest, but it's gonna be a tough project, and in my opinion, it's not ever going to work properly. But I wish them good luck, you never know, they may succeed...
we need someone with good porting skills to do this
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Was just wondering if it would even be possible for us g tablet owners if we could hope for and see a htc flyer rom port. I'm no Dev so I don't know how hard it would be. I would donate if we had a 90-100% port.
What's everyone else's thoughts would you like to see this or not.
+1 I've been trying to figure out if its an option for a future rom, I'm not a dev either, have searched and dont know if Sense 2.x is possible on the gTab and just not attacked yet since 2.x is only htc phone based. The first tablet version of Sense is the flyer and probably too soon to port over.
All that said, even with the roms already on my list to flash I'd love to play with the new SenseUI on my yet to be delivered gTab somebody chime in for us clueless ones
Hey guys,a couple of days ago(or was it yesterday?) I stumbled upon this article at Phonearena,which pretty much states that HTC is making Sense open source.First of all,I personally believe it's very nice of HTC to respect developers with their latest actions.But I chose to jump ship for Samsung's better hardware(My f*@%@$ng GS2 isn't here yet ).
So,my question to you guys is,could this help things for porting Sense to the SGS2?I think it would help very very much.The time and effort needed will probably be dramatically reduced,so more devs may choose to make Sense ports for other devices.UNLESS it only has to do with modifying Sense and cannot help us.
And I beg you guys,do not flame me.I just prefer Sense over TouchWiz or Vanilla Android.Don't tell me I should have gone for an HTC device if I wanted Sense,that's not this community's spirit.
Thanks in advance!
I highly doubt they are "opening" sense. To me it looks like they are making it easier to develop sense specific apps (3d api and magic pen api). So no help in porting sense.
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tolis626 said:
Hey guys,a couple of days ago(or was it yesterday?) I stumbled upon this article at Phonearena,which pretty much states that HTC is making Sense open source.First of all,I personally believe it's very nice of HTC to respect developers with their latest actions.But I chose to jump ship for Samsung's better hardware(My f*@%@$ng GS2 isn't here yet ).
So,my question to you guys is,could this help things for porting Sense to the SGS2?I think it would help very very much.The time and effort needed will probably be dramatically reduced,so more devs may choose to make Sense ports for other devices.UNLESS it only has to do with modifying Sense and cannot help us.
And I beg you guys,do not flame me.I just prefer Sense over TouchWiz or Vanilla Android.Don't tell me I should have gone for an HTC device if I wanted Sense,that's not this community's spirit.
Thanks in advance!
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They're opening it up, not making it open! Very different. They're going to give access to certain APIs to help better integrate with 3rd party applications. But they're not going to give their delicious, fattening and buttery (and not to mention ONLY) creation to keep people on HTC .
I honestly think it's a lot of eye candy, give me a good widget any day
Oh...So I suppose it won't help in any way?
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They are just opening it up so developers can write apps for their bloatware ui.
It will help developers/companies to make applications/widgets/whatever that run on Sense.
They are not making the source code of Sense available.
Sad... I also hoped this will help to port over Sense...
Hey guys
Just read that htc have unlocked the boot loaders on htc sensation. Does this mean we could get a sense port soon?
Thanks
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no....
If you want HTC sense buy a HTC phone. There is little chance of a full blown port!
Sigh. More people creating new threads with old topics. No-one knows how to search any more.
Is it because you dont want it or its just not possible?
I am no fan of HTC but I like sense. Dont mind touchwiz though.
There are many people who prefer sense over touchwiz..
It's just a silly question. Like saying 'it's raining, should I take a day off work next friday?'
Since when does an unlocked bootloader, which is about getting custom kernels onto the device I think, got anything to do with the ability to dump part of the rom and port it to another device?
There is a thread in the dev section about this, they are trying, no its not quick and easy, it may never be stable, go buy a sensation or something if you want sense that badly.
We dont need another 50 asking the same old stupid question, with 10 people saying yay sense and 10 saying boo sense and going backwards and forwards.
For those who want Sense on their Galaxy S II, you can check out the progress of the project here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1217752
For those who are whiney little kids jealous of people actually getting what they want, so what if I want Sense on my SGS2 and not a HTC Phone? Deal with it.
My mind is completely boggled by the gormless requests and "yippee's" for the frippery of Sense.
Each to their own though & good luck to those pursuing this project; you clearly have more time than Sense™
I am wondering given that this device just got honeycomb.. is there any chance of it getting ICS?
Part of the reason I'm wondering is because I am getting my flyer sometime between the 10th and the 17th coming up according to the "estimated delivery date" when I hit buy.
I have had ICS on my captivate before I ever even got to play with Honeycomb.. my mom got the transformer yesterday.. and there are a few minor quirks with honeycomb that I really don't like.. major example being if you pull up the task manager in ICS you can remove windows and close out the programs.. Honeycomb will pull up windows that aren't open.. and it gets cluttered fast if your done with something and seeing 5 or more windows you don't want open, but can't get rid of..
no sign of ICS anytime soon but maybe if kernel source is released and CM9 development someone will port it here. In regards to the task management, yes it can get cluttered but it is better than not having it at all like gingerbread
I'm hoping they'll have the decency to update us or at least release the source code required...
IANAL, but I believe HTC legally has to release the kernel source for anything it releases. If they never release ICS, we may never get a kernel for ICS.
Honeycomb kernel might work, but I'm not sure if HTC is legally required to release honeycomb kernel source.
As far as I am aware, they did/may have use some proprietary software which would screw up our porting efforts.
So it becomes an issue of "will they" and that is what I am wondering.
Personally I don't think we will ever see ICS on the Flyer. Here are my reasons:
1. Not a lot of Flyers were sold so there is not a large user base. Thus, there is not much developer interest.
2. Sense - From what I understand from what developers have said, the kernels that HTC makes are made to work with Sense and will not work with an AOSP build.
These two things combine to make bringing ICS to the Flyer difficult and there is no one around who appears willing to do it.
I really hope that I am wrong about this but I don't think that I am.
Someone want to educate a noob?
How is it that several other devices (including HTC ones, like the Sensation) are getting ICS ports, but the Flyer/View can't? I mean, it seems unlikely that HTC released AOSP kernel sources for other devices, and even if they did, they're certainly not ICS kernels. Why is it so important for us to have an AOSP kernel (and an ICS one, at that) from HTC in order to get CM on the Flyer/View?
Oh, and then there's devices that didn't even have Android like the TouchPad, and devices that don't have their source code released, like the Kindle Fire.
I'm definitely not a developer, so I'm sure there's something I'm missing...I'm just trying to figure out what it is.
I'm repeating what developers told me or wrote here. I don't know if it is right or wrong.
I think the bottom line is that it is easier to have an AOSP kernel.
I think you can build your own kernel but that is much more work and maybe a hard thing to do.
All of the custom ROMs that we have seen for the Flyer are just modified HTC ROMs that come with certain software preinstalled or other kinds of enhancements.
More popular devices have much more developer interest. I would imagine that some less popular device owners get lucky because some developer also owns the device and is willing to spend the time.
So far, one developer said he would try to bring ICS to Flyer. He tried but gave up because of kernel issues. I don't get the impression that he did too much but at least he gave it a go. No other developer has said anything one way or the other.
I'm not holding my breath..
but, I definitely won't give up hope just yet..
The most likely path would be a port of another HTC device that uses the same processor or very similar. SO when some of the other HTC devices are released with ICS around March or so, we might see some goodness, depends on how close the hardware is and if HTC releases some source code.
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The most likely path would be a port of another HTC device that uses the same processor or very similar. SO when some of the other HTC devices are released with ICS around March or so, we might see some goodness, depends on how close the hardware is and if HTC releases some source code.
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Makes sense to me.
Shame this device hasn't received more attention.
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The most likely path would be a port of another HTC device that uses the same processor or very similar. SO when some of the other HTC devices are released with ICS around March or so, we might see some goodness, depends on how close the hardware is and if HTC releases some source code.
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This is correct and likely the only way we see ICS in a timely manner.
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He's been debunked several times.
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So I guess the big question as far as an official update goes.. is how much effort would HTC have to put out in order to do the upgrade...
And will it be worth it for them to do so..
I guess the pen is the biggest issue prevent the ICS update
Since it only works in Sense ROM, so even we have a perfect CM9, the pen function is wasted
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I guess the pen is the biggest issue prevent the ICS update
Since it only works in Sense ROM, so even we have a perfect CM9, the pen function is wasted
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Would it be possible to take the pen code from honeycomb and implement it in CM9?
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I guess the pen is the biggest issue prevent the ICS update
Since it only works in Sense ROM, so even we have a perfect CM9, the pen function is wasted
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I'd be content with an AOSP rom now, with the pen worked in later.
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We will see... if any devs are willing, I am sure as heck willing to help and take a crack at it myself..
You can't do AOSP without HTC's help for the kernel and drivers and since HTC only does sense kernels I'm thinking that's not going to happen. I still think a port of an HTC ICS ROM from another device is the most likely path, unless HTC is feeling exceptionally benevolent toward the Flyer. Perhaps the Jetstream tablet will get ICS and that can be ported...
I would really appreciate some help with a project that I am hoping to start soon. I would REALLY like to get Sense launcher (Rosie) working on a non-HTC phone, specifically the ZTE Force 4g. I am asking for help from Droid Incredible 4g devs, because of the similarity of the platforms.
Both phones are MSM8690, both LTE, both 1GB ram, both are stock ICS 4.0.3.
What I don't know is how well this might go. That's where I need your expertise!
You see, I am sort of an HTC junkie. My last 4 phones were HTC's and I am very used to the Sense UI. There is not a whole lot of development going on for my phone (you can check it out on androidforums.com in the ZTE Force 4G - All Things Root forum).. Basically there is a CM10 port which lacks bluetooth and wifi capability, the stock rom, a rooted debloated stock rom (DroidForce, which is nice btw, and what I plan to use for a base). Also, a JB rom which is so new that pretty much nothing works. The Kernel sources for my phone JUST got released, and many are using the matrix kernel ported from the Avid. I feel that it would be good to add a little variety for ZTE Force users, and if I can bring together a Sense modded ROM for the community it would be nice.
Yes, I know that Sense is not often ported to other platforms due to the difficulty, and this thread will hopefully help me assess the doability of the project.
My first question, for those of you in the know, is what is the kernel version of the first stock rom on Droid Incredible 4g? If it is 3.0.8 then that is another thing that these phones share in common.
My first Sense related question is also about the kernel. Are there dependencies (modules, whatever) in the HTC kernel that are required for sense to work? I have read that there may be but have not seen this confirmed.
Next question would be about the screen resolution. The Force 4g is 480x800 while Incredible 4G is 540x960, both are 4". If this did theoretically make it to the point of testing, will the launcher screens and icons scale automatically, or will each graphic have to be resized? If resized, how complicated would that get?
Aside from the possibility of kernel dependencies, the next most important question is, "What exactly do I need?" This is where I would probably need the most help from you guys. If this is even possible to attempt, I don't know which frameworks I would need to add, what apks and files to rip from the Incredible 4g rom. All of the very detailed stuff which I know some of you guys know, I will need to learn.
I know probably most of you might possibly think that this idea is dumb and just say "Buy an HTC", but because of budgetary constraints I could not get a 4g HTC and use it on my carrier (Boost btw). I have the HTC Evo design 4G and it was on Boost but it's WiMax and we all know that is a dead duck.
So is anyone willing to give me some answers to the questions above? If there is a possibility of this working (any version of Sense would be fine) then I would greatly appreciate some guidance! I'd really rather not go the route of another launcher skinned like sense. That seems lame to me. Plus, I dig a challenge!
Thanks for taking the time to read and I thank you in advance for any responses!
Cheers!
-SimStim
Guess I'll just dive into this on my own..
Wish me luck?