Hi Guys, sorry if it has been asked before, but i searched and couldn't find an answer i was looking for.
I want to try the new AOSP 4.1.1 jelly bean rom on my GS3 but don't want to loose any of the features that the GS3 is known for. for me the camera i cannot loose because i must take around 200 photos a day. I used to run paranoid android on my GS2 and i loved what it had to offer so i am familiar with that type of rom, i tried that rom on my GS3 when i got it and was dissapointed to find out that none of the GS3 features were available.
The answer i am seeking really, is that im probably going to loose certain features like camera etc, am i likely able to install the sammy camera onto the AOSP installed rom to keep the features i use all the time?
im guessing im probably better off waiting for an official update?!?!
cheers in advance guys.
Hi,
You won't have the sammy camera on aosp roms and as far as I know it is not available since its based on touchwiz..
If you just want the aosp look then I would install a different launcher like apex launcher.
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AOSP stands for Android Open Source Project and their SDK are backbone for all other Android firmware. Samsung firmware have proprietary software that will not be included. Just install a different rom that retain the Samsung apps.
But we could "fill" the gaps with some other software. For example, Moboplayer now is able to "float" a video around while you are reading twitter.
For those of us who want Samsung's features without Touchwiz thread like this could help.
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Yes, but he is especially referring to the camera app, which you will not have on an aosp rom
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Ok. It could be useful if he tell us what are the features he miss from Samsung camera app.
For example, burst mode.... Camera Zoom FX has burst mode, voice control.... I speak about Camera Zoom, just because i have it
Hi, thanks for you replies guys, i tried the latest paranoid android jelly bean version, ( purely because ive used it before on galaxy s2) and love everything about it apart from the slow camera. I was hoping that the camera would be better on this rom but its still slow, ( i take pictures of my 2 year old son and he moves too quickly so his face is always blurred) so i think i will have to revert back to the official sammy rom.
does anyone know of a way to port the camera app from the sammy based roms?
also if i do go back to the sammy rom, does anyone know if i can install the aosp version of exchange mail?
The sammy version looks so ugly and I kinda got used to the AOSP version when running that on gs2, the sammy one is too dark.
anyway, Ill probably just wait for the official update and see how that goes. I just like certain features from both versions of android. shame i cannot have a multiboot option.lol
cheers.
Paul.
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Hi. I wa going to start testing the cm nightly but I still think ol' sammy has done some good stuff in their android release so... yeah I would like to keep stuff like "put phone to ear when smsing " and other stuff.
Now to my q. Wasn't there a project somewhere trying to port all apps from different manufacturer's so they could be included in aosp roms? Though it had something to do with cyanogenmod but Im maybe wrong...
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Not sure about that but they will all rely on frameworks from each specific device so I don't see that project being feasible.
I won't be going to aosp just yet. The unused touchwiz overhead is not so much that I want to lose Samsung features
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A search would have told you no. It is not going to happen. CM only uses open source coded apps and non of the Samsung apps are. So if you want an AOSP based rom you will have to be willing to lose the Samsung apps and features.
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Check out this thread, its a sgs3 pack for the galaxy nexus.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1669190
Tried it, works quite fine, however some strange rendering with touchwiz (think cause its targeted for the nexus, which has on screen navigation buttons)
I think you mean the openDESIGN project which aims to rewrite popular features from scratch to unify great features from different manufacturers in Cyanogenmod.
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I think its a bit of a waste to goto CM9 only to put back all the bloatware.. And there ate still issues with CM9 for the s3
I persoanlly have gone for one of the other roms, that is deodexed etc, so that it can be modified to an extent, whilst keeping a lot of its usefulness
It runs a little better than stock, seem to have slightly better battery life, and some custom mods that i want
I am itching to try cm9.. I did install paranoid rom, but i think its a little early yet for someone that needs some things to work right.. Cm7 on the nexus s was good.. When cm9 is that good it will get installed on my phone
Hey there! I'm not sure if a similar question has been asked as I could not find it.
What I wanted to know is are there any roms that keep the Samsung features such as
S-beam and smart stay etc. But give you the vanilla android experience? I have used nova prime but...
It's not quite the same. I really want the vanilla android but I don't want to lose those features as
I tend you use them often! So roms like hyper light etc. Won't work for me as it has touchwiz!
Thanks!
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Hey there! I'm not sure if a similar question has been asked as I could not find it.
What I wanted to know is are there any roms that keep the Samsung features such as
S-beam and smart stay etc. But give you the vanilla android experience? I have used nova prime but...
It's not quite the same. I really want the vanilla android but I don't want to lose those features as
I tend you use them often! So roms like hyper light etc. Won't work for me as it has touchwiz!
Thanks!
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Oh P.S it will be a rom for the galaxy s3 i9300.
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Wish for jazzk to buy s3 ..he made aosp apps available for s2 users on touchwiz roms..like dialer and answer and lockscreen ..everything was looking exactly like aosp!
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Hi guys,
can you help me understanding the main pros/cons for going with Samsung JB or an AOSP rom on the Galaxy S3?
I've tried searching the forum but without luck, anyone got a thread link where this is covered?
My first Samsung (S3) phone is on its way by mail, and I'm trying to decide which type of rom to choose.
Off course I see the obvious stuff like:
Open vs Closed source
Stock vs Custom UI
But, except for the above; why should I choose an optimized (de-odexed, de-bloated etc. etc.) Samsung JB rom over an AOSP rom?
From what I can understand custom kernels also exists for both rom types, so that wouldn't be an argument right?
I'm not familiar with the current HW support in AOSP rom's for the S3. Generally this has been where roms for my HTC phones have differed in the past. What's the status with the S3, do AOSP support most of the stuff or is there still some way to go?
Please shed some light for me :fingers-crossed:
And please don't compare specific rom's against each others. I'm trying to understand this at higher level, I will off course test several rom's and make up my own mind about what specific rom release is best suited for me.
Samsung roms will have all the things mentioned in the ads such as direct call, smart stay, multi window etc. Aosp won't have these as they are samsungs additions. Samsung will have touchwiz launcher as default, which comes with a lot of samsung only widgets. Aosp will have vanilla launcher (with some extra functions and tweaks).
Sammy roms generally have better camera than aosp. Aosp is considered to have better battery usage although I can't really tell from my experience of using both types.
Deodexed means it's easier to develop themes for, as the external odex files are repackaged into the apks directly. But it will take a while longer when booting, as odex files are meant to speed up this process. As for the actual usage, not much difference.
Debloated means getting rid of bloatware that come with your phone, sich as chaton, google talk etc. There will be quite a lot of apps that you don't use but will be present and wasting your phone resources. Debloating is done by some developers but you can do most of ot yourself as long as you're rooted.
Hope this clears things. But these are all general, as you wished it to be. Some aosp will have different launcher options etc, so will sammy roms. As for what you go with, I'll leave it up to you.
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Samsung roms will have ...
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Thanks a lot xcly, this clears up some stuff for me
You say that Sammy roms have better camera, what about the rest of the HW support on AOSP? The rest of the stuff (GPS, Accel, Gyro etc.) works ok?
From what I can gather from your post (and reading around) the choice boils down to two main points for me
HW support
Kernel (stability and performance, ofwhich battery performance is derived)
I don't care much for the 'Samsung features' (direct call, smart stay, multi window etc.) and the launcher can always be customized.
Additionally my previous experience is that the continious devlopment done on AOSP (with nightlies etc.) gives a nice feeling of continous improvement that you miss from manufacturer roms. For manufacturer roms you're relying on manufacturer relase schedules and leaks. But off course, one can argue that there is continous development through hacking, back-porting and kernel improvements for these roms as well..
Ultimately I think Ill just have to try out the most popular roms of both types before I'm able to decide what type I go with as a daily driver.
As for kernels most of then support both aosp and sammy so don't worry about it too much. Gps wifi and the lot work well on both as well.
Samsung didn't release any source code for its processor so aosp roms can never realise the full potential. Never had any trouble using aosp so I wouldn't say there is a huge difference, but I guess some advanced users will miss the hw side of things..
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Simple to say
TouchWiz UI and pure Android UI.
Other things basically are very similar
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Haha nice. All my words in a single sentence
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Here is some personal feeling about them.
As you can see from my signature that I had Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus before, and after I lost my GNex, I tried to buy a Nexus 4, but it kinda like mission impossible as it's serious outta supply, so I was forced to make compromise and go with Galaxy S III, which is very nice phone through some thing I don't like such as hardware button and soft key (because GNex uses virtual button on screen which is completely customizable ).
I have been using AOSP ROM for over a year (well, it's outta options actually as they are Google's sons but Samsung didn't make a ROM for them even they are manufactured by Samsung , and 3 month with Sammy ROM.
Even I got my S3, the first thing I have done is flash AOSP ROM and get my feeling about GNex back, but unfortunately due to some reasons, I couldn't make it become GNex-like and realize it is something fool, so I tried Sammy stock ROM.
My first feeling about it is a little prettier than AOSP ( through there's countless themes for AOSP, I am just talking about default theme ) and some Sammy features are very interesting and attractive. (IMHO, I'd say it is more user-friendly to users ) which is why I decided to stay with it , but after all these times, I didn't actually use these features much except multi windows and slide to dial...
OK, sorry for my non sense words and my bad English just can exactly express what I trying to say...
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FoxHound rom is all you need.
crDroid is the most stable Sammy Tom out there with the option of having an AOSP theme & not installing all the bloatware that Samsung Roms are notorious for.
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A quick follow up question
Just a quick follow up question regarding HW support:
Whats the status for AOSP roms regarding MHL, does it work?
I recently saw a video where a guy paired his phone with a PS3 controller and played games on his HD TV. Would this possible on non-Sammy roms?
Can't help you much on that. Never tried mhl on my s3, aosp or otherwise. You're better off asking/searching in cm thread. If it works on cm, it'd probably work on other aosp roms too.
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Pedro80 said:
Just a quick follow up question regarding HW support:
Whats the status for AOSP roms regarding MHL, does it work?
I recently saw a video where a guy paired his phone with a PS3 controller and played games on his HD TV. Would this possible on non-Sammy roms?
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You need to read the relevant rom threads or logically ask in those threads .
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Hello. Recently I flashed PA ROM,I like it very much.I've been using stock ROMS forever but I got bored and wanted to try something new.My biggest criteria is the camera app,what I've heard that TW has much better quality video and photo compared to AOSP camera.I want to ask your opinions on this,maybe there's a camera app in the Play Store which is better than AOSP one.It's the one thing that keeps me away from AOSP ROMS.Maybe you have some ideas,share.
Since I bought my SGS2, I flashed custom roms specially AOKP.
I didn't feel any difference at all but the last time I was on stock rom, it was gingerbread. So many things changed since then.
You must try it yourself but I'm pretty sure there is no much difference for our phone!:good:
Canderynn said:
Hello. Recently I flashed PA ROM,I like it very much.I've been using stock ROMS forever but I got bored and wanted to try something new.My biggest criteria is the camera app,what I've heard that TW has much better quality video and photo compared to AOSP camera.I want to ask your opinions on this,maybe there's a camera app in the Play Store which is better than AOSP one.It's the one thing that keeps me away from AOSP ROMS.Maybe you have some ideas,share.
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Try Camera Zoom FX app. Its good.
Or you can try Chameleon ROM. :good:
Hi everybody
Recently I noticed a large interest in the subject custom ROM for Mega. Especially a lot was written about the AOSP. Please express, what do you expect after installing such ROM and why you do not like TW?
Another thing are stock ROM's stripped of almost all s-apps and other software deemed unnecessary in order to recover memory. Please share your opinions on the advisability of such action. Did you really needed all this reclaimed memory?
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I expect most of the new features for S4 and Note 3 to be available in this ROM.
I still dont know if we can expect full 4.3 update. Some web sites claim that Mega wont receive this "Premium package" update whatever that means. I dont think that Mega 6.3 is a mid class smartphone and it would be plain stupidity if we stay out of good updates. So very important part for a custom RoM is the availability of the latest Samsung goodies from the flagman like S4 for instance.
Also I think that TW is not so bad, I like its interface.
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I expect most of the new features for S4 and Note 3 to be available in this ROM.
Also I think that TW is not so bad, I like its interface.
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Hmm, I was asking about expectation towards AOSP custom ROM-s as such CM or MIUI. As you probably know, many futures in Samsung stock ROM depends heavily on TW. Massive striping stock Samsung ROM from all s-apps could even cripple your phone. But installing AOSP ROM will means clean-out all samsung dependencies, so there will be not possible to run futures from S4 or GN3. maybe I'm wrong, let somebody correct me.
I think so TW is not so bad either and was curious why some people are so opposed to it. I was user of Motorola Defy which actualization stops on Android 2.3 so custom ROM's were only alternative. Now I am not so eager to strip my Mega to bare AOSP.
Yeah I missed the point of AOSP rom a little bit, but I strongly believe that a Samsung device without TW loses its advantages. I've been using Galaxy S with AOSP for a long time but I was forced to do it because of the lack of updates after 2.3.6
Samsung says that the new 4.3 update will bring new and fast TW without lags and constant refreshing. This makes me think that porting the new SW is better than Aosp roms. Of course there should be some roms based on CM cause many people preffer stock android instead of customized one.
I just want CM because it allows you to port MIUI v5. I have always been a fan of MIUI roms.