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Hi, i have two questions for you, because i don't know what to do...
- the first one : Android 4.0 will be released for this phone ?
- the second one : is it possible to have an official version of Android gingerbread without Touchwiz for the galaxy S II ? ( i don't very like Touchwiz )
I ask you this questions because i don't know if it's better to wait the nexus prime, or to buy this phone... ( sorry for my english, i'm not very good )
Thank you !
1. Yes, probably
2. CM7 is already available, think of it as souped-up AOSP
If you can wait then go for the nexus prime, but there'll always be something better around the corner and the SGS2 is the best out there for the meanwhile
Ill probably be getting the samsung g note but I wonder will the nexus prime have a removable sd card.
thank you for your answers ! i think i will buy the galaxy ! but one last question : the CyanogenMod roms aren't stable yet ?
Dromax said:
thank you for your answers ! i think i will buy the galaxy ! but one last question : the CyanogenMod roms aren't stable yet ?
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They're stable enough, as most users would agree, but there are other AOSP ROMs out there that are pure Android, without any CM stuff. It depends what you want, obviously, but if you're after pure Android (as on a Nexus, for example) then that's available and working very well.
Dromax said:
Hi, i have two questions for you, because i don't know what to do...
- the first one : Android 4.0 will be released for this phone ?
- the second one : is it possible to have an official version of Android gingerbread without Touchwiz for the galaxy S II ? ( i don't very like Touchwiz )
I ask you this questions because i don't know if it's better to wait the nexus prime, or to buy this phone... ( sorry for my english, i'm not very good )
Thank you !
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Did you ever use and Android based phone before? Install different launcher and get rid of TW. Root your phone and delete samsung based apps with Root Uninstaller. That's it
if you don't like touchwiz you don't need to switch the rom, just search the market for a launcher that suits your liking and customize it to your preference.
i dont think touchwiz sucks that bad. but i wanted to have more control over how the app drawer sorts apps, so i downloaded go launcher ex (completely free) and i got what i want.
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They're stable enough, as most users would agree, but there are other AOSP ROMs out there that are pure Android, without any CM stuff. It depends what you want, obviously, but if you're after pure Android (as on a Nexus, for example) then that's available and working very well.
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that's exactly what i'm looking for ! can you tell me what person does that with gingerbread please ?
thank you for your answers, i think my choice is made because of you !
Dromax said:
that's exactly what i'm looking for ! can you tell me what person does that with gingerbread please ?
thank you for your answers, i think my choice is made because of you !
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I had this for a while, before I tried and fell in love with MIUI...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1183063&highlight=aosp
It worked great for me, with no issues. All you need to know to flash it is right there in the 1st post
johncmolyneux said:
I had this for a while, before I tried and fell in love with MIUI...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1183063&highlight=aosp
It worked great for me, with no issues. All you need to know to flash it is right there in the 1st post
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Thank you very much ! but unfortunately there is only in english but it's ok i'll teach !
Touchwiz 4 is awesome.... By far the best launcher.
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chrisjcks said:
Touchwiz 4 is awesome.... By far the best launcher.
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+1 I love TouchWiz 4.0. It's fast, smooth and looks awesome. In addition, I love using some of the widgets that are TouchWiz only. Also if you are a TouchWiz user, you can download an app called Appzorter to alphabetize your app drawer (only works on root though). I've tried other launchers and none of them seem to be as fluid as Touchwiz is.
personnaly, i think touchwiz is not very beautiful, the galaxy seems to be an old phone with that. i prefer the style of android, but it's my opinion.
Sounds like your comparing touchwiz 4 to touchwiz 3 in the galaxy i9000.
Touchwiz 4 is silky smooth compared to any other launcher and adds great functionality compared to an standard android device.
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personnaly, i think touchwiz is not very beautiful, the galaxy seems to be an old phone with that. i prefer the style of android, but it's my opinion.
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I'm a fan of pure Android too, but it obviously doesn't hurt to try all the alternatives out there. As I said ealier I use MIUI, but it's very much NOT pure Android, although built on an AOSP ROM. CM is also built from the ground up, and that's very popular. Your best bet is to just forget what you already know and try what's out there, because there are some great ROMs available. Just bear in mind that a lot of them are simply tweaked Samsung ROMs, and nothing "new" (no disrespect meant to the developers - purely an observation).
I hated the look of MIUI before I tried it because it looked like someone just wanted Android to look like the iPhone, but trying it really showed me how wrong it was. I just guess it's the same with all ROMs. Don't take anyone's word for it - try it for yourself.
Hi Guys, sorry if it has been asked before, but i searched and couldn't find an answer i was looking for.
I want to try the new AOSP 4.1.1 jelly bean rom on my GS3 but don't want to loose any of the features that the GS3 is known for. for me the camera i cannot loose because i must take around 200 photos a day. I used to run paranoid android on my GS2 and i loved what it had to offer so i am familiar with that type of rom, i tried that rom on my GS3 when i got it and was dissapointed to find out that none of the GS3 features were available.
The answer i am seeking really, is that im probably going to loose certain features like camera etc, am i likely able to install the sammy camera onto the AOSP installed rom to keep the features i use all the time?
im guessing im probably better off waiting for an official update?!?!
cheers in advance guys.
Hi,
You won't have the sammy camera on aosp roms and as far as I know it is not available since its based on touchwiz..
If you just want the aosp look then I would install a different launcher like apex launcher.
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AOSP stands for Android Open Source Project and their SDK are backbone for all other Android firmware. Samsung firmware have proprietary software that will not be included. Just install a different rom that retain the Samsung apps.
But we could "fill" the gaps with some other software. For example, Moboplayer now is able to "float" a video around while you are reading twitter.
For those of us who want Samsung's features without Touchwiz thread like this could help.
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Yes, but he is especially referring to the camera app, which you will not have on an aosp rom
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Ok. It could be useful if he tell us what are the features he miss from Samsung camera app.
For example, burst mode.... Camera Zoom FX has burst mode, voice control.... I speak about Camera Zoom, just because i have it
Hi, thanks for you replies guys, i tried the latest paranoid android jelly bean version, ( purely because ive used it before on galaxy s2) and love everything about it apart from the slow camera. I was hoping that the camera would be better on this rom but its still slow, ( i take pictures of my 2 year old son and he moves too quickly so his face is always blurred) so i think i will have to revert back to the official sammy rom.
does anyone know of a way to port the camera app from the sammy based roms?
also if i do go back to the sammy rom, does anyone know if i can install the aosp version of exchange mail?
The sammy version looks so ugly and I kinda got used to the AOSP version when running that on gs2, the sammy one is too dark.
anyway, Ill probably just wait for the official update and see how that goes. I just like certain features from both versions of android. shame i cannot have a multiboot option.lol
cheers.
Paul.
Hi guys,
can you help me understanding the main pros/cons for going with Samsung JB or an AOSP rom on the Galaxy S3?
I've tried searching the forum but without luck, anyone got a thread link where this is covered?
My first Samsung (S3) phone is on its way by mail, and I'm trying to decide which type of rom to choose.
Off course I see the obvious stuff like:
Open vs Closed source
Stock vs Custom UI
But, except for the above; why should I choose an optimized (de-odexed, de-bloated etc. etc.) Samsung JB rom over an AOSP rom?
From what I can understand custom kernels also exists for both rom types, so that wouldn't be an argument right?
I'm not familiar with the current HW support in AOSP rom's for the S3. Generally this has been where roms for my HTC phones have differed in the past. What's the status with the S3, do AOSP support most of the stuff or is there still some way to go?
Please shed some light for me :fingers-crossed:
And please don't compare specific rom's against each others. I'm trying to understand this at higher level, I will off course test several rom's and make up my own mind about what specific rom release is best suited for me.
Samsung roms will have all the things mentioned in the ads such as direct call, smart stay, multi window etc. Aosp won't have these as they are samsungs additions. Samsung will have touchwiz launcher as default, which comes with a lot of samsung only widgets. Aosp will have vanilla launcher (with some extra functions and tweaks).
Sammy roms generally have better camera than aosp. Aosp is considered to have better battery usage although I can't really tell from my experience of using both types.
Deodexed means it's easier to develop themes for, as the external odex files are repackaged into the apks directly. But it will take a while longer when booting, as odex files are meant to speed up this process. As for the actual usage, not much difference.
Debloated means getting rid of bloatware that come with your phone, sich as chaton, google talk etc. There will be quite a lot of apps that you don't use but will be present and wasting your phone resources. Debloating is done by some developers but you can do most of ot yourself as long as you're rooted.
Hope this clears things. But these are all general, as you wished it to be. Some aosp will have different launcher options etc, so will sammy roms. As for what you go with, I'll leave it up to you.
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Thanks a lot xcly, this clears up some stuff for me
You say that Sammy roms have better camera, what about the rest of the HW support on AOSP? The rest of the stuff (GPS, Accel, Gyro etc.) works ok?
From what I can gather from your post (and reading around) the choice boils down to two main points for me
HW support
Kernel (stability and performance, ofwhich battery performance is derived)
I don't care much for the 'Samsung features' (direct call, smart stay, multi window etc.) and the launcher can always be customized.
Additionally my previous experience is that the continious devlopment done on AOSP (with nightlies etc.) gives a nice feeling of continous improvement that you miss from manufacturer roms. For manufacturer roms you're relying on manufacturer relase schedules and leaks. But off course, one can argue that there is continous development through hacking, back-porting and kernel improvements for these roms as well..
Ultimately I think Ill just have to try out the most popular roms of both types before I'm able to decide what type I go with as a daily driver.
As for kernels most of then support both aosp and sammy so don't worry about it too much. Gps wifi and the lot work well on both as well.
Samsung didn't release any source code for its processor so aosp roms can never realise the full potential. Never had any trouble using aosp so I wouldn't say there is a huge difference, but I guess some advanced users will miss the hw side of things..
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Simple to say
TouchWiz UI and pure Android UI.
Other things basically are very similar
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Haha nice. All my words in a single sentence
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Here is some personal feeling about them.
As you can see from my signature that I had Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus before, and after I lost my GNex, I tried to buy a Nexus 4, but it kinda like mission impossible as it's serious outta supply, so I was forced to make compromise and go with Galaxy S III, which is very nice phone through some thing I don't like such as hardware button and soft key (because GNex uses virtual button on screen which is completely customizable ).
I have been using AOSP ROM for over a year (well, it's outta options actually as they are Google's sons but Samsung didn't make a ROM for them even they are manufactured by Samsung , and 3 month with Sammy ROM.
Even I got my S3, the first thing I have done is flash AOSP ROM and get my feeling about GNex back, but unfortunately due to some reasons, I couldn't make it become GNex-like and realize it is something fool, so I tried Sammy stock ROM.
My first feeling about it is a little prettier than AOSP ( through there's countless themes for AOSP, I am just talking about default theme ) and some Sammy features are very interesting and attractive. (IMHO, I'd say it is more user-friendly to users ) which is why I decided to stay with it , but after all these times, I didn't actually use these features much except multi windows and slide to dial...
OK, sorry for my non sense words and my bad English just can exactly express what I trying to say...
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FoxHound rom is all you need.
crDroid is the most stable Sammy Tom out there with the option of having an AOSP theme & not installing all the bloatware that Samsung Roms are notorious for.
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don't turn this thread into a best rom one
A quick follow up question
Just a quick follow up question regarding HW support:
Whats the status for AOSP roms regarding MHL, does it work?
I recently saw a video where a guy paired his phone with a PS3 controller and played games on his HD TV. Would this possible on non-Sammy roms?
Can't help you much on that. Never tried mhl on my s3, aosp or otherwise. You're better off asking/searching in cm thread. If it works on cm, it'd probably work on other aosp roms too.
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Pedro80 said:
Just a quick follow up question regarding HW support:
Whats the status for AOSP roms regarding MHL, does it work?
I recently saw a video where a guy paired his phone with a PS3 controller and played games on his HD TV. Would this possible on non-Sammy roms?
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You need to read the relevant rom threads or logically ask in those threads .
jje
Hello, I have limited Knowledge and am New to ROM/Android.
I have a S3 i9300, and I have Rooted it.
Now I find the phone very laggy and slow ( I had a Moto g and it felt MUCH FASTER) So after some research I think this is because of touchwiz.
So now I am thinking of putting a ROM.
I looked in the ROM Section/Youtube/ and on Here and am LOST on what to do next.
I don't understand which ROM would be best for me?
All I want it is a FAST/STABLE and SMOOTH Phone.
Must be Andriod Kitkat - I want to enable ART.
I don't want crazy features like Pie control/ Touch wiz Ports ETC.
So what do you recommend?
I have heard and seen Cyagoemod. It looks like that is what i want but I am unsure? Will there be too many useless feature for me?
Thank You very much
Krisshp said:
Hello, I have limited Knowledge and am New to ROM/Android.
I have a S3 i9300, and I have Rooted it.
Now I find the phone very laggy and slow ( I had a Moto g and it felt MUCH FASTER) So after some research I think this is because of touchwiz.
So now I am thinking of putting a ROM.
I looked in the ROM Section/Youtube/ and on Here and am LOST on what to do next.
I don't understand which ROM would be best for me?
All I want it is a FAST/STABLE and SMOOTH Phone.
Must be Andriod Kitkat - I want to enable ART.
I don't want crazy features like Pie control/ Touch wiz Ports ETC.
So what do you recommend?
I have heard and seen Cyagoemod. It looks like that is what i want but I am unsure? Will there be too many useless feature for me?
Thank You very much
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CyanogenMod is just cool if you want the stock Android experience like on moto g, it have not that much fancy features, it has some but very useful. The only thing you will probably miss if you install CyanogenMod will be the camera quality from Samsung ROMs, in rest is very stable and fast, know from my experience
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yet I'm not sure where I can find the best rom!
currently I got a unlocked i9300 running a stock i9300XXEMD2 rom on 4.1.2 with a UK "3.co" on the power up and shutdown on the device
thing is I really like the look of this older sammy stock rom! I don't want to flash to those strange newer "white" verisons. I enjoy the look of the black and using old youtube and maps
yet I know there are better custom roms the clear the bloat. I'm looking for one that retains the look and feel of the galaxy s3 when it came out but is more uptodate, has a callrecorder built into secphone (when I install its not working) and overall improves ram use/user preformence, battery etc.
can someone point me in a good direction? there is so much available and hard to sort thru
Neat ROM is probably your best bet. Remember not Neat ROM AOSP. Its the one that its download size is about 1GB.
It is based on the latest stock ROM for S3 which is Android 4.3 and has new features integrated into the ROM (Quad multiwindow , smart features etc from newer Galaxy S series).
It also has the old Black theme similar to your ROM
Neat Rom looks interesting. Why is there an "ASOP" version? What's the difference?
Any others?
If your device is sim locked you may want to unlock it before you mess with it.
In 2 years i found stock 4.3 to be the best rom for this device.
device is unlocked and rooted.
strange how I bought it used... it was on stock UK rom... but its been flashed and rooted before.... rooting it didn't take very long... it was easy...
I have root access and its nice, but i'm looking for something that easier on the battery,cleaner bloat removed and has excellent features... but doesn't stray far from that fine stock look of an s3!
My personal best is archidroid rom, speed & stability all the way. Stock rom was slow and buggy. It took me about 2 whole minutes from unlocking to sending msg. You shld give it a try. I flashed it on 7 diff devices. Its asop, it isnt wht you are looking but certanly the worth a look
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yeah... neatrom was too slow and heavy use of ram
is their another "galaxy s3" looking like rom thats newer?
supertac said:
yeah... neatrom was too slow and heavy use of ram
is their another "galaxy s3" looking like rom thats newer?
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Rooted. Stock 4.3. Honestly its the best rom. If you want really good battery then don't root it. Don't even debloat it, dont change the kernel. Just disable facebook app and it'll serve you well.
Xposed is a big battery killer.
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...I don't use facebook app and rooting a phone serves me far more.
Maybe its lack of ram 9300 has?
supertac said:
...I don't use facebook app and rooting a phone serves me far more.
Maybe its lack of ram 9300 has?
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Stay with stock 4.3 and remove unwanted bloat, don't use mods, its the source of bugs and instability.
If you want Kitkat then go with back-to-n00t, same thing with 4.3 but it was ported from the Korean LTE version, very stable and smooth, everything works fine too, because the rom includes all the Samsung blobs
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I hate the Facebook app...
I just use Facebook via the Firefox (beta) browser app and I can do just as much if not more on Facebook via the browser than the app.
Just my opinion...
I use mobile myself...
Great but now they're pushing messenger use on.mobile.
Anyone have a fix for this?