Hi all!
This may sound quite noobish, but I feel better doing the right thing from the start.
On the equipment manual they ask you to charge your phone before first usage, however many people defend that since the battery has some charge when unboxing, that the battery should first be drained (phone usage) and only then charged.
Can anyone shed some light for me on this issue?
Thanks!
I'll ask in a different way since no one answered me...
what did you do with your phone, first finished the half-charged battery that came with the phone, or before first use you charged it full?
i opened the box and set up my phone and used it til it fully drained and turned itself off. then i charged it whilst still turned off when i was asleep (about 8-9 hrs). turned it back on .... i also only put the charger in now if its under 15% (dunno why i just do ) maybe its my ocd lol
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So the original battery in my phone.. well... sucked. When I pulled the phone off the charger it would jump down to 93% no matter how long it was on the charger etc. Any attempt to bump charge was thwarted in the fact that I cant charge the phone when its off (it automatically turns on and boots into CWM). Wiping the battery stats when the battery read 100% in the OS would still result in the above.
So I ordered that 1600mah battery from Seidio. Ran the charge out of it yesterday and charged it to full during the evening/night. Wake up this morning, pull the charger out of the phone, and BOOM 100% power. Not 93%...
So was it my old battery that was bad or was there something wrong with how the phone saw its power rating?
From what I've seen with the phone, it drops down to 90% or so before it starts charging again, but it won't ever have the display show a battery decrease while plugged in.
Russ36363 said:
From what I've seen with the phone, it drops down to 90% or so before it starts charging again, but it won't ever have the display show a battery decrease while plugged in.
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Right but I can watch the meter go all the way to 100%... pull the plug and it goes down to 93% within seconds.
funny thing phone did the same thing...took it off the charger this morn and it dropped down to 95
I'm at 99% after about 2.5hrs of mostly idle usage. I've been just rebooting the phone with it on the charger in the morning, give it about 15-20 minutes and usually it'll stick at 100
"I'm at 99% after about 2.5hrs of mostly idle usage. I've been just rebooting the phone with it on the charger in the morning, give it about 15-20 minutes and usually it'll stick at 100"
same here
probotic said:
"I'm at 99% after about 2.5hrs of mostly idle usage. I've been just rebooting the phone with it on the charger in the morning, give it about 15-20 minutes and usually it'll stick at 100"
same here
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All you are doing is semi-bumb charging it, which is fine if you really must have that extra 1hour of battery, but be warned, doing it constantly will damage your battery over time. that is the reason the phone has built in charging/decharge in the first place.
The reality is if your phone is sitting idle, that 5% wont matter at all once your phone attunes to your battery, and if your using the phone so heavily that your going dead long before the day is done (after attunement) then the 5% still wont matter !
i was having the same issues - 90% right after unplugging. had to charge the phone 3 times in ONE day and i never even touched the phone the whole day except to check the battery percentage.
brought it into verizon, they gave me a new battery and now it lasts me the entire day. when i pull the plug out now, it drops steadily like a normal battery should. i tried bump charging before i brought it in and it didn't help at all
The same thing has been happening to my dads Thunderbolt.
He charged it overnight, took it to work and was losing about 1% per minute without touching the phone. The only time it was touched was about 1 timer per hour to take down the battery percentage for his log.
He took it to the verizon store and they told him he should not expect anything longer than 4 hours of battery life without touching the phone..what kind of BS is that?
psufan5 said:
So the original battery in my phone.. well... sucked. When I pulled the phone off the charger it would jump down to 93% no matter how long it was on the charger etc. Any attempt to bump charge was thwarted in the fact that I cant charge the phone when its off (it automatically turns on and boots into CWM). Wiping the battery stats when the battery read 100% in the OS would still result in the above.
So I ordered that 1600mah battery from Seidio. Ran the charge out of it yesterday and charged it to full during the evening/night. Wake up this morning, pull the charger out of the phone, and BOOM 100% power. Not 93%...
So was it my old battery that was bad or was there something wrong with how the phone saw its power rating?
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I'm having the exact opposite problem with the batteries--just ordered two of the 1600 Seidios that delivered yesterday and even after running pretty much down, fully charging overnite with the T-bolt powered down, drops to 95% immediately. Conversely, the OEM battery would stay at 100% for hours if the phone was idle (screen off / receiving any emails and SMS). Go figger.
There is a post in the Android Central forums on the 1600 battery compared to stock. After testing, they found that the two perform almost identically. Basically, it isn't worth replacing unless you go with the big HTC extended battery. Although having a spare isn't a bad idea. If only that battery door wasn't so tough to pry off when you need to change it...
nexus s had the same problem its nothing big though
bashir1102 said:
All you are doing is semi-bumb charging it, which is fine if you really must have that extra 1hour of battery, but be warned, doing it constantly will damage your battery over time. that is the reason the phone has built in charging/decharge in the first place.
The reality is if your phone is sitting idle, that 5% wont matter at all once your phone attunes to your battery, and if your using the phone so heavily that your going dead long before the day is done (after attunement) then the 5% still wont matter !
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Most of us probably won't have the phones long enough to see any possible damage. Starting off at a full 100% is a lot better than immediately dropping to 95 or so after pulling it off charger. It's kind of like the gas gauge in my truck. Stays full a while but once it moves off of full you can watch it drop. lol
Hey guys, both my and my gf bougth and Arc, when i bought mine the dealer recommended me to charge the phone for 16 hours before i started using it. I think i was in a hurry the next day and the phone only got 9-10 hours.
My battery time is not great but not bad either, first 15% goes fast, then it kinda slows down.
My question is is it a one time chance you have to charge the battery first time you get it, and if you dont do it proberly well too bad? Just curious how long you guys charged it the first time and if you think it matters much??
Skit
Denmark
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16 hours seems a lot, I've only ever done a few hours (3/4) which has usually given a full charge, but I do cycle my battery i.e will let it drain fully (below 10%) before recharging.
That whole "16 hours" thing is BS.... that sort of treatment is not required for modern batteries.. and in any case the phone will stop charging when it hits 100%.. the only thing that seems to help is to run the phone down to about 20% a few times (through normal use..) but I've also read that a complete discharge every now and again helps..
it helps to cycle
16 hours is as said before bullpoop.... 100% charged and it will stop
the battery tech is li-po. lipo bats are ment to be 100% discharged and then 100% recharged....(trickle charged if possible) not sure how a phone charges there bats though
lipo unlike other types actully do have a proper memery and if you keep half charging or dont let it run right down the bat will over time last less and less......
even then they dont last forever i replace mine every year with a new set (i say set as i own 2 bats and carry the spare one with me when im out hard usage i can get half a day out of my phone so 2 bats works for me. i no longer use my phone for charging i have a battery dock that now charges my phone
hope this helped
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it helps to cycle
16 hours is as said before bullpoop.... 100% charged and it will stop
the battery tech is li-po. lipo bats are ment to be 100% discharged and then 100% recharged....(trickle charged if possible) not sure how a phone charges there bats though
lipo unlike other types actully do have a proper memery and if you keep half charging or dont let it run right down the bat will over time last less and less......
even then they dont last forever i replace mine every year with a new set (i say set as i own 2 bats and carry the spare one with me when im out hard usage i can get half a day out of my phone so 2 bats works for me. i no longer use my phone for charging i have a battery dock that now charges my phone
hope this helped
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Thanks for clearing it up, i suspected it was like this, but glad u can confirm it.
thanks for clearing up too
Hi this is my first ever post so please bear with me, my lumia like many others suffers from ridiculous battery drain I have the new software and yes I can now charge to the max. However the battery cannot last the day out until I discovered this. Most people I know continually top up there battery, but if you just let it completely die then do a full charge overnight you may like me notice a massive increase in battery life, I have changed nothing about the way I use my phone the only difference is it now lasts 2 days easily.
The figures quoted in battery saver have not changed but as the day goes on the time since last charge goes up but so does the estimated battery life.
My phone is now IMO fantastic.
Maybe if you tried this it might work for you too, do hope so.
One word of caution when the phone has died the phone cannot be switched on until charger has been plugged in for some time, in my case about 20 minutes after plug in the phone switches itself on.
Please try and maybe you will also have the most amazing phone too.
whu1958 said:
Hi this is my first ever post so please bear with me, my lumia like many others suffers from ridiculous battery drain I have the new software and yes I can now charge to the max. However the battery cannot last the day out until I discovered this. Most people I know continually top up there battery, but if you just let it completely die then do a full charge overnight you may like me notice a massive increase in battery life, I have changed nothing about the way I use my phone the only difference is it now lasts 2 days easily.
The figures quoted in battery saver have not changed but as the day goes on the time since last charge goes up but so does the estimated battery life.
My phone is now IMO fantastic.
Maybe if you tried this it might work for you too, do hope so.
One word of caution when the phone has died the phone cannot be switched on until charger has been plugged in for some time, in my case about 20 minutes after plug in the phone switches itself on.
Please try and maybe you will also have the most amazing phone too.
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I think I experienced something similar. I then flashed the new firmware and am back to lower battery life. Need to take the time for a few discharge cycles.
The problem with this approach is that some Lumia 800's cannot turn on after a full discharge. People have gone to great lengths to be able to get a tiny bit of charge so that it could power on. Some people have had to send them back for repair.
Question to TS. Do you let it completely die every time now or can you charge it whenever and still get the great battery life?
battery fix maybe
Hi after letting the phone die I have not done it again since, I just top up as needed or at night just as you would normally do.
Hope this helps.
Okey. When you say "completely let it die" do you mean letting it drain and turn off. Or do you start it once again after the first turning off and let it die again?
battery fix maybey
Just use the phone till it turns itself off, then plug in charger, this is when you may have to wait for the phone to switch on, mine turns itself on after about 20 minutes, charge as normal then use as normal, charging as you would normally do.
Good luck.
I did this once intentionally about two weeks ago. Did not notice any difference really. I do not have "bad" battery life to begin with. Not great either though. But it easily lasts a full day with heavy usage which is all I need really.
12 hours since last charge. 73% left on battery. I have used it "normally". About 10 quick calls. A few messages. Browsing on the marketplace installing a few apps editing contacts etc...
I'm pretty heavy on my usage, too. Lots of Mix Radio, sometimes played via bluetooth.
My appologies if this question has been answered somewhere else, I could not find any other threads with a similar situation.
My phone was dropped and ever since then it has not shown me the right battery level. It will charge on USB or AC up to 99% and stop. I connected it to AC power 30 hours ago and it never gave me the green light. This is after a full drain and then recharge. It did however stop charging at some point. I noticed no light was on, red or green, turned on the phone and my battery had gone from 99% to 41% in 22 minutes. I plugged it into USB and it appears to be charging back up. My widget now shows 84% with 4334mV (i dont know if this is right or not).
It is not an issue with the battery. My wife has the same phone and I swapped batteries. Mine works fine in her phone and I have the same problem with hers.
My other issue is that when I use the phone off the charger it will not show me the level accurately when it is draining battery. Example being, I unplug the phone at 99%, within 5 minutes I'm down to 92% (i know this is not unusual because of how the batteries charge). But, I will stay at 92% for hours and hours, with moderate use of internet, phone, and apps. Then it will fall from 92 to 60 ish in a few minutes and do the same thing. Sometimes it will tell me that I'm getting low (under 15%) other times it just turns off a second or two after the notification. If I plug in the phone and turn it on it shows me 1% and charges up to 99%.
In the few minutes I have been typing my phone charged up to 91% with 4336mV.
I was running ViperRom ICS when the issue started. Restored it back to Stock with no root and the issue remained. Now I am running Mean Rom ICS with the same issues.
I have cleared the battery cache in recovery too.
Any help would be appreciated.
If you kiss it. your phone will love you and it'll be all better. NOW KISS IT AND TELL YOUR PHONE YOU'RE SORRY FOR DROPPING IT! LOL!
Based on my experience with batteries of all kinds, it sounds like one of the cells may be damaged. Best bet is to get a new battery. They are decently cheap for a good one. Im actually looking for an extended unit myself. If you come across one, please PM me.
Thanks
That was my first thought but when I swap my battery with my wife's battery I have the same problem. Both batteries work fine in her phone but not in mine.
Sorry to bring this up again, my bad. But seriously you are not the only one with this issue.. I had the same problem since stock, swap battery didn't help either.
So after some ultra heavy usage yesturday I found myself for the first time witnessing less than 10% battery on my Maxx, so I plugged it to charge as normal, around 12 ish mid night... An hour in, 1 something am, I was tired and decided to go to sleep and, as I checked on the razr, it displayed 24% charge... I wondered why it was charging so slowly, but decided to leave it charging overnight and thought it might help... As I woke up at 7:30 am, I notice it has 30% battery charge and it said it was "Charging"... As I went to settings > battery, it showed a straight horizontal green line, as if the phone was in deepsleep... It recognized it was charging, but it didn't go past 30%!!!!!! I was scared the hell off, so I removed the SIM card and put it on my back up phone (I needed the phone at the moment) and let it charge for another hour turned off before I had to go... This time, however, it did charge...thankfully... It was at 57% so I took it to school and kept charging it... Right now, its at 83%, so I guess its charging as it should (though slow as f**k)... Any ideas as to why this happened and how I can prevent it in the future?? And also as to why its now charging so slowly?? I just got this phone 2 days ago and it charged perfectly those 2 days.... Thanks in advanced!
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So after some ultra heavy usage yesturday I found myself for the first time witnessing less than 10% battery on my Maxx, so I plugged it to charge as normal, around 12 ish mid night... An hour in, 1 something am, I was tired and decided to go to sleep and, as I checked on the razr, it displayed 24% charge... I wondered why it was charging so slowly, but decided to leave it charging overnight and thought it might help... As I woke up at 7:30 am, I notice it has 30% battery charge and it said it was "Charging"... As I went to settings > battery, it showed a straight horizontal green line, as if the phone was in deepsleep... It recognized it was charging, but it didn't go past 30%!!!!!! I was scared the hell off, so I removed the SIM card and put it on my back up phone (I needed the phone at the moment) and let it charge for another hour turned off before I had to go... This time, however, it did charge...thankfully... It was at 57% so I took it to school and kept charging it... Right now, its at 83%, so I guess its charging as it should (though slow as f**k)... Any ideas as to why this happened and how I can prevent it in the future?? And also as to why its now charging so slowly?? I just got this phone 2 days ago and it charged perfectly those 2 days.... Thanks in advanced!
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I've had this happen a couple of times. Install "Better Battery Stats" (here's the Play Store Link), which will help you see if there are any apps causing unexpected wakelocks. If you see any, uninstall or disable the app and see if your battery starts charging normally again.
Another d'oh thing to check is making sure your charger is working OK, and you don't have a case that's preventing you from completely plugging your phone in (I did that before, too...).
Saludos,
SPCagigas
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I've had this happen a couple of times. Install "Better Battery Stats" (here's the Play Store Link), which will help you see if there are any apps causing unexpected wakelocks. If you see any, uninstall or disable the app and see if your battery starts charging normally again.
Another d'oh thing to check is making sure your charger is working OK, and you don't have a case that's preventing you from completely plugging your phone in (I did that before, too...).
Saludos,
SPCagigas
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Thanks for ur reply, Im gonna download the app now! Also, I'm using an HTC wall charger (for my old Evo 4G) because the phone was sold to me without any accessories or anthing. I'll look up on buying an OEM Motorola charger too. You wouldnt happen to know where I can get one without it costing me a fortune (fortune = apple prices lol), would you?? Thanks again for ur help!
EDIT: Would it be wise to purchase this charger?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/111013401885?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
The seller says its OEM... Also, I checked other sites like Amazon and that's about what they're selling for ($5 - $12).