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i see all these nice incons and i have no clue how u install them , i really would appericate it if someone could list step by step how to install them thank u so much
Here my friend take a look at this thread! I don't think I can explain it much better!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=567080
What are those "Help me!!!!!!!"-Threads always supposed to be? Is it so difficult to choose a proper ThreadTitle which informs a potential reader about the content of the Thread. And why the hell must it sound like you have bricked your phone completely when u just want to ask a minor standard-question (without even using the searchfunction by the way... ). Please Guys keep this forum clean and informative.
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Yes, it's crazy to see all those questions without people make the effort to use the search function!
im not that good on here sorry for the quesions but i have one more how do u flash your cabs and xmls again im sorry and thank u alot
dunnboy9984 said:
im not that good on here sorry for the quesions but i have one more how do u flash your cabs and xmls again im sorry and thank u alot
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Flash is fore Rom's!!
Cabs are installed!!
Just download the cab's you need, copy to your SD and pres on install! Don't see the difficult in it!
Oh yes fore your safety, install the cab on the device's memory!!
no i understand all of that , im talking about when i save my new icons to a folder then go in and copy them , i needed to knw where i paste them so they will show up in the start menu
^^^ Did you actually really read the answer in posting #2?
I kind of doubt that. Because your new question implies you haven´t.
Please follow the link, read everything, download and try the app - and there you go.
so friendly
Wow xda-developers is so friendly!! Whats with all the jumping on people. If someone is new they dont know how it works in here. So just let them know , in a nice way. The responses here sound like you dont want any new people here. Fine any new person who reads this head over to www.ppcgeeks.com . The people are much nicer there and wont get pissed if you ask a question.
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Wow xda-developers is so friendly!! Whats with all the jumping on people. If someone is new they dont know how it works in here. So just let them know , in a nice way. The responses here sound like you dont want any new people here. Fine any new person who reads this head over to www.ppcgeeks.com . The people are much nicer there and wont get pissed if you ask a question.
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Sometimes (a lot of) people just don't read nor search and expect to be spoon-fed the information they need (because they would not spend the effort to do/find it themselves). I don't know about the majority but to me that is just laziness and quite annoying.
AS FOR THE QUESTION POSTED, if you actually do go to the link posted above, the information is there and any questions you might still have is better directed in that thread rather than creating a new one such as this with a SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME!!!! subject line.
I thought moderators are deleting threads such as this.
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Wow xda-developers is so friendly!! Whats with all the jumping on people. If someone is new they dont know how it works in here. So just let them know , in a nice way. The responses here sound like you dont want any new people here. Fine any new person who reads this head over to www.ppcgeeks.com . The people are much nicer there and wont get pissed if you ask a question.
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Nobody is jumping on anybody.
The truth is harsh sometimes. Obsolete and redundant questions and answers are definitely not something any forum is searching for. It´s called spam.
Ignoring the correct answer (which in this case was given in the very first answering posting) isn´t a beginners mistake, imho. It doesn´t show respect to the user who posted the link.
If me pointing out this very fact was too rude, I am sorry. But to be honest, I am tired of recurring subjects which could easily be solved using the search function. I did the same when I came here as a beginner. Oh, and btw, please check the forum rules and the new stickies.
Last, but not least, in the other forum you mention, it might be a different story sometimes. People get ignored there, and some statements are much harsher than anything I have personally ever seen here.
We are all human beings. Cool down.
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Ok yes the link provided was good information. I personally just PM someone when I have a question. I been here for a while so i have that option because people will PM me back.
My point is some people or smarter than others. Iam a developer myself, so alot of problems or questions I can figure out on my own. But some people are not that smart and this phone can very easily expose that fact. So some new people might need more help , and sarcasm wont help anyone. They dont call this a smart phone for nothing. Whats simple to you and me , might be complicated to others.
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Wow xda-developers is so friendly!! Whats with all the jumping on people. If someone is new they dont know how it works in here. So just let them know , in a nice way. The responses here sound like you dont want any new people here. Fine any new person who reads this head over to www.ppcgeeks.com . The people are much nicer there and wont get pissed if you ask a question.
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I don't see what's your problem Sr.
First of all the moderators have create a special sub-forum fore this Q and A.
secondly I can understand that maybe using the searchfunction is not easy to everyone, and certainly not if you don't know what to search!
But after the moment I post him the correct link to his question, a hole thread that give you bay the way a hole step by step explanations I don't know how we can give a better treatment!?
but after that the person came back with a question what is tread in there!!!???
I don't know sr but there is a end on everyone's goodness!
nice is a good word
Ok I understand its annoying when newbies just dont get it. As for a problem I dont have one , and maybe I came off harsh. My mistake too.
When the OP said flash a cab , that alone told me he isn't computer or phone savy. He obviously is way over his head with this type of phone. He probaly got lucky when he found this website. Iam sure he was excited that he could ask a question because he was lost. The comment that pissed me off a little was telling him its safer to install to the phone. Thats definitally not right at all.
The only reason I said anything was because I could tell the OP was really lost and confused. By reading his comments I could tell he never had anything like this before. So for his 1st venture into the wonderful world of windows mobile, I just didnt want him to be discouraged. I want him to enjoy the phone and mod it to the fullest extent.
the reason way I have wright "installed cabs on your device" is because there are some cab's that don't have a correct installation pat. And like I saw it was a new member who posted this thread I give him this tip, to be sure he don't installed it on SD.
I don't see what is wrong with that!?
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1) Installation on a unstable OS like windows mobile ,will cause slowdown in the future after alot of apps are installed. Its nobodys fault but HTC who made the phone.
2) If there is a virus , you can delete it easier on storage card.
3) If you have to hard reset the phone , you lose everything. Thats why I recommend storage card.
See how nicely I spoke , I gave point by point reasons without sarcasm. We are all happy now.
It´s a bit sad to see the development of this thread.
Something which was not "bashing" turned into bashing after a posting was made, citing the "bad word". In the meantime, there was even a thread opened to discuss that very question.
I think both threads should be closed. They don´t belong into the "HD2 Themes and Apps" section anyway.
And, imho, it is recommendable to install system relevant items like icon cabs to the device, I definitely second kurt-willems´ advice. On the other hand, CSMI or JWMD Icon Changer, the possible programs to change icons manually, can go onto the memory card.
zarpy said:
1) Installation on a unstable OS like windows mobile ,will cause slowdown in the future after alot of apps are installed. Its nobodys fault but HTC who made the phone.
2) If there is a virus , you can delete it easier on storage card.
3) If you have to hard reset the phone , you lose everything. Thats why I recommend storage card.
See how nicely I spoke , I gave point by point reasons without sarcasm. We are all happy now.
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But I don't see sarcasm on my post, maybe my bad english, or maybe my culture.
That was all I had to say.
zarpy said:
1) Installation on a unstable OS like windows mobile ,will cause slowdown in the future after alot of apps are installed. Its nobodys fault but HTC who made the phone.
2) If there is a virus , you can delete it easier on storage card.
3) If you have to hard reset the phone , you lose everything. Thats why I recommend storage card.
See how nicely I spoke , I gave point by point reasons without sarcasm. We are all happy now.
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I don't want to wade in on the bashing, but to make a comment like your first one, "unstable OS", sounds to me like you have something against windows mobile, and to post in a thread of someone looking for help that their os is just "Unstable" is not really help ...
I am sure there are a lot of people that use WiMo daily and would not agree that it is "Unstable"
I personally install almost everything to phone memory because this phone can take it, and my phone runs just fine...
With this phone there is a bigger chance of the SD card getting corrupted than the OS ...
life is funny
Its very funny to me now. I just responded and I didnt bash anyone. Its funny how people can talk to someone anyway they like, but cant take it when someone talks to them the same way.
If you didnt like the way I responded, maybe you shouldnt that way to others. Very simple have a nice day!!!
Howdy all! If you've seen me around you'll know I love being an active member of these forums. With my job I have free time some days (some days NONE lol) and helping people makes me happy. I hate causing problems. But there has been a rash of interesting posts within the last 6 months (maybe going back farther but there has been an increase in the past 6 months that I've noticed) of people beginning their posts with:
" sorry for the noob question, but..."
Also, some start with, " sorry I did a search but I'm pressed for time and...."
OK. Look. When I joined up, I had to watch a video. It showed me how much of a noob I am, and told me to search, then search some more, and finally, SEARCH. Again. Now, maybe I'm crazy, but that is still XDA policy. Just because yer new, it doesn't give u an excuse to be lazy. Just because yer in a hurry , it doesn't give u the right to ignore the rules u agreed to when u signed up here.
I was a noob too. A year ago. Guess what? From day one I searched. And searched. And searched again. Why? Cause I love solving as many problems as I can ON MY OWN. Lets try and get back to that. Google search is a great tool. Yes the mobile app search is limited. But u have a browser on your phone. U can go to the actual site and search there as well. Remember, we're a community. And these rules are put in place to help us and maintain some semblence of order.
Remember folks when u search first, and don't post a new thread for something easily found, it not only looks better for u. But it reflects the respect u have for this community and its mods/devs.
Good luck all, happy flashing.
P.S. Red, if have to close this thread, just know this meets my quota for rants for the month.
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I like this guy, but I have low expectations.
I personally have NO issue reading "noobie" questions. Everyone is different and I don't expect they must act like me. For you, me and others who spot a so-called "noob question", if you don't want to help then report the thread/post to mod so they can take care of. Yelling at newbies just makes the matter worse and that have been proved for ......... like you said, the past 6 months.
What irritates me more is SAME person asking the SAME question by creating multiple threads.
Therefore, for us, seniors, if you're not willing to help then just simply walk away from the thread, don't post, don't act like you are the mod.
One other issue, don't be an ass-kisser here.
For newbie, pls read the sticky thread FIRST.
This is 100% correct but you are missing one other important word to go with your "rules, etiquette and respect" slogan and that word is "Attention"
People need to pay attention! So if you could just change the title of the thread to "Rules, Etiquette, Attention, and Respect" or R.E.A.R. for short? Then I think that will cover it. So next time someone asks a question in the wrong thread? I can just point them right to your R.E.A.R.
Most of us are coming to under stand that there is no help what so ever for what the old gaurd calls common qustions so we just go else where
I spent 18 hours sunday working on my phone and I am happy with the results.
The biggest problem is even the fairly detailed instructions leave out the tiniest simple things people do not think of because they just figure everyone on earth should know it.
take for example if you are trying to get your phone ready and going right now the easiest way is to use the directions and flash to a older SU rom then up grade it from there. I searched for hours and could not find an answer to a simple question on why Odin would not upload the files I was trying to load so I had CWM.
In the end the answer, which I figured out my self, was that Odin will not load the .zip files everyone uses for CWM. I accedently tripped over a kernel that was in a different format,.tar, and got lucky.
After that I soft bricked the phone a few times following directions and then ran across the Little bricker Rom that had GREAT directions and loaded first time perfectly.
So for you old timers I might say step back every once in a while when you are writing the great write ups you do and think of the first time you did it. It is the little things that count and are left out most of the time
As Android grows you are going to have to deal with it more and more and you just can't keep kicking people in the teeth or they will not return. GOOD you say? No not good. Not everyone wants an Apple and you do not want to wind up like Nokia or the old PDA platforms that are dead and gone.
So take this how you may. I did get where I needed to go but a simple 20 minute gig took 18 hours to figure out because of the little things all of you take for granted and do not always include.
Thank you for the site
All said here is true but as a noob i must say that there is a lack of usual information here.
A BIG lack...
The problem is visual.
The stickies was made by a dev. Just find a good NOOB to do it and youll be fine.
The first stickie must be how to flash a rom. But this one is not there. It is inside of another stickie at the line 157... cmon
The noob that decides to flash wont read all the stuff. He'll just read the info that he wants.
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RatusNatus said:
All said here is true but as a noob i must say that there is a lack of usual information here.
A BIG lack...
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I don't think there is a lack of information, far from it. I think the problem is that the information is scattered. For example, the guy 2 posts up that tried to use a .zip in Odin...the information that you need to use a .tar is posted in these forums, it's just not in an easily accessible place like the FAQs. I think it's a combination of: lack of organization on the forum's side and laziness on the user's side.
Sorry about my english, there is a communication lack.
you are right, the info was there but people just dont get it...why is that?
Ive edited my previous post...
There is too much info. The noob needs the basic. Step by step he will learn.
Inside the Red stickie, look at the title of the topics listed there.
That is chinese to a noob.
How to flash custom binaries... what a hell is a binarie?
How to flash... the counter?
What... counter?
That is not made for noobies...as i said before, find a noob to do it.
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Phalanx7621 said:
Howdy all! If you've seen me around you'll know I love being an active member of these forums. With my job I have free time some days (some days NONE lol) and helping people makes me happy. I hate causing problems. But there has been a rash of interesting posts within the last 6 months (maybe going back farther but there has been an increase in the past 6 months that I've noticed) of people beginning their posts with:
" sorry for the noob question, but..."
Also, some start with, " sorry I did a search but I'm pressed for time and...."
OK. Look. When I joined up, I had to watch a video. It showed me how much of a noob I am, and told me to search, then search some more, and finally, SEARCH. Again. Now, maybe I'm crazy, but that is still XDA policy. Just because yer new, it doesn't give u an excuse to be lazy. Just because yer in a hurry , it doesn't give u the right to ignore the rules u agreed to when u signed up here.
I was a noob too. A year ago. Guess what? From day one I searched. And searched. And searched again. Why? Cause I love solving as many problems as I can ON MY OWN. Lets try and get back to that. Google search is a great tool. Yes the mobile app search is limited. But u have a browser on your phone. U can go to the actual site and search there as well. Remember, we're a community. And these rules are put in place to help us and maintain some semblence of order.
Remember folks when u search first, and don't post a new thread for something easily found, it not only looks better for u. But it reflects the respect u have for this community and its mods/devs.
Good luck all, happy flashing.
P.S. Red, if have to close this thread, just know this meets my quota for rants for the month.
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you're not even a mod...what gives you the right to post this?
I think some of you have forgotten how this place originally came about and its primary purpose. It was and still is, mostly, a place for developers and development. It was never supposed to be a help desk. That it is a great resource for people needing help is a secondary byproduct, not its raison de'tre. I think this misunderstanding is what leads to incorrect assumptions and expectations and, in turn, hurt feelings when the forum doesn't meet what some think it should be.
RatusNatus said:
Sorry about my english, there is a communication lack.
you are right, the info was there but people just dont get it...why is that?
Ive edited my previous post...
There is too much info. The noob needs the basic. Step by step he will learn.
Inside the Red stickie, look at the title of the topics listed there.
That is chinese to a noob.
How to flash custom binaries... what a hell is a binarie?
How to flash... the counter?
What... counter?
That is not made for noobies...as i said before, find a noob to do it.
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I respectfully disagree. The noob does not need a step by step guide. The noob needs to read, research, and learn so that he (or she) can make sense of the available information. a quick guide so the noob "can haz ROM nao" is only going to lead to a disappointed, knowledge lacking noob later on down the line...
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Yes Miami but this place become a lot bigger than any dev could think.
Is this bad?
Devs cant complaim about it.
This is the price if sucess.
Just get over it...
Ps. I think he post it cuz he want...
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And you need to remember that the developers in here, for the most part, don't get paid for what they do. We get all their great stuff for free. Actually, we get it for the cost of doing our own research and finding our own solutions. Seems like a fair trade to me.
And as dandrum noted, helping noobs by leading them by the hand is a bad idea. People need to understand fully what they are doing and what it does because otherwise when they inevitably run into a problem they will have no idea what to do to fix it or where to start to even look. This stuff isn't rocket science, but it does require a certain level of comprehension. it is unfair to expect the unpaid members of this forum to bail people out when something goes wrong because they either didn't do their homework or have no understanding of what they're doing.
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Yes Miami but this place become a lot bigger than any dev could think.
Is this bad?
Devs cant complaim about it.
This is the price if sucess.
Just get over it...
Ps. I think he post it cuz he want...
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No they absolutely can complain because this is still a developer Site no matter how popular it becomes.
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you're not even a mod...what gives you the right to post this?
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What gives you the right to post? You're not a mod either. Also, basically everything he said was correct.
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From my perspective I feel as though the vast majority of the time I have virtually no reason to post.
This is usually because of one of the following:
a- someone else has asked a question that I do not have the answer to, not that I'm a n00b but do not know or I would rather leave it up to the real devs to deal with it;
b- I would just be either flaming someone for asking a stupid question or leave a stupid question unanswered because some things should just be figured out by yourself; or most importantly
c- if i have a question or some other issue I can search for it or spend time reading through many posts because there are enough people and knowledgeable people around here that at this point my question or any sort of problem has already been answered, or at least the question has already been asked so there is no reason to spam the same questions over and over.
so just always remember before you make a possibly redundant post there are plenty of us sitting back and reading because usually that is all you need to do
What gives you the right to post? You're not a mod either. Also, basically everything he said was correct.
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good one..
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good one..
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Wasn't supposed to be. The logic is sound.
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Lol, did you really had to made this useless post?
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Lol, did you really had to made this useless post?
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Someone had to outline it
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**** has been outlined in almost every single thread I have look into.
I saw a old thread similar to this but I wanted to post a new one because:
I have a 32gb class 10 San Disk sd card and it doesn't work with my phone. It doesn't readily read, i have to keep on reinserting it, and at times my phone asks to format it because its broken. I use a custom rom (razo droid latest version).
Which 32GB sd cards are reliable and definitely work with this phone? If people reply with one's that don't, I don't mind editing the first post with a list of SD cards to stay away from with this phone.
Nice development thread you got here. Is it too hard to go to the General section instead of development?
Try to ask it here
You will get more answers
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mc-sonic1 said:
I saw a old thread similar to this but I wanted to post a new one because:
I have a 32gb class 10 San Disk sd card and it doesn't work with my phone. It doesn't readily read, i have to keep on reinserting it, and at times my phone asks to format it because its broken. I use a custom rom (razo droid latest version).
Which 32GB sd cards are reliable and definitely work with this phone? If people reply with one's that don't, I don't mind editing the first post with a list of SD cards to stay away from with this phone.
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Nice development. Btw is this a ROM? A kernel? Or a scripts? I wanna apply this on my phone. Please add how to apply this on my phone please. I wanna make my phone super power like this.
instead of making jokes cant you just report this thread to mod??
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instead of making jokes cant you just report this thread to mod??
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Already Done Bro
I'm terribly sorry for making such a stupid mistake. Really I am, I know I'm a noob, and unfortunately too many people like me are here, sorry.
Going back to the post, from first hand experience should
san disk class 10 32gb micro sd card work on a custom rom of s5830i?
So what he accidentally posted in the wrong section,everyone makes mistakes... what I find funny is the fact that the people who are making fun of him attempt to do so with what they undoubtedly believe are witty comments and comebacks, but half the time they don't make sense and end up failing completely
To those of you who simply reported it to get it moved to the general section you're clearly more mature than most, especially those who simply have to post cocky comments
Back to the question now, I think 32 gig is supported, I had a problem like yours with my brand new 8 gig SD card it turns out there was a problem with it,i got it exchanged and everything works perfectly now, I suggest getting it checked out or exchanged especially if your phone keeps saying to format it because its damaged or unable to read it
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I'm terribly sorry for making such a stupid mistake. Really I am, I know I'm a noob, and unfortunately too many people like me are here, sorry.
Going back to the post, from first hand experience should
san disk class 10 32gb micro sd card work on a custom rom of s5830i?
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I am happy that you realized that was a mistake
I hope you got your answer and
As a fellow user of XDA
Post your Questions here next time instead of creating new threads
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2089279
Thanks both of you
Is there any way for me to delete this thread? I feel bad flooding this forum
Section.
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You haven't flooded the forum it's meant to be here, this is the place to put questions, as long as it's new and you've searched beforehand, areebjamal and others are only annoyed that noobs post new topics to easy questions without searching and easily finding there answer
No you can't delete it, only moderators can delete stuff
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Could someone point me to the ultimate thread for this?
I know nada about rooting, and im also new to Android, and before i dig into to that, i need info on do's and dont's, advantages/disadvantages, what to look out for, and if the process can be reversed back to stock fw?
Thanks :fingers-crossed:
appfactory said:
Could someone point me to the ultimate thread for this?
I know nada about rooting, and im also new to Android, and before i dig into to that, i need info on do's and dont's, advantages/disadvantages, what to look out for, and if the process can be reversed back to stock fw?
Thanks :fingers-crossed:
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GT-I9300 General Thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1564
everything you need to know is in there, do some reading and once you've read it, read it again.
squ89r97 said:
GT-I9300 General Thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1564
everything you need to know is in there, do some reading and once you've read it, read it again.
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So there are no other ways to find out than reading 100 000 of posts multiple times to get help on that?
appfactory said:
So there are no other ways to find out than reading 100 000 of posts multiple times to get help on that?
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yes, use search, it's honestly not hard. I'll give you a hand
***Roll-Up Sticky Thread*** Stickies found here!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1927113
This is the 7th post down in the General thread, no where near 100000.
squ89r97 said:
yes, use search, it's honestly not hard. I'll give you a hand
***Roll-Up Sticky Thread*** Stickies found here!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1927113
This is the 7th post down in the General thread, no where near 100000.
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My bad, i should have mentioned that ive already used the notorious search button, which apparently leads to ALOT of DIFFERENT threads about the same topic, hence my question, "which is the ULTIMATE thread for noobs"
Im sorry, but I dont know which is the right thread and not, if i did, i wouldnt bother asking that question, would i?
In theory its just downloading a file, unzip it, connect phone to computer and execute, right?
http://youtu.be/vhSSmdqAXRM
However, after a long life, my experience is that it would be convenient to know more than just the action itself, cause there are always traps, which isnt always mentioned or described in those threads cause they take for granted that people who want to do this already know everything about it.
If there are risks involved doing it, like choosing the wrong vers, having the wrong bb etc, i want to learn and be aware of it BEFORE i attempt or even consider doing it, cause i dont want to brick my phone.
Unfortunatelly i have a daytime job, and not much time left for reading through endless threads and comments, thats why i addressed the experienced members in here that already know what im looking for, and can in his, or her way save me for reading all the stuff that i dont need to know, or are irrelevant in my case
Btw, i got a GT-I9300 with 4.1.2 - BB I9300XXEMB5
Dont mean to be rude, but sharing is caring, and i would love to help others in the same way sharing my knowledge, if i could, instead of just inform people about the search function... its getting old.
Im a little tired of all the wise guys in here sitting on their horses pretending to know everything, but isnt willing to help or share in a nice way, instead just being arrogant in a patronizing way.
I can assure you, if you threat people more friendly, people will show more gratefulness in return, and if you dont, u get ungrateful speaches like this in return instead
A good atmosphere is much easier to achieve if you include people, rather than exclude them....
Hope i dint offend you with my "speach"
appfactory said:
My bad, i should have mentioned that ive already used the notorious search button, which apparently leads to ALOT of DIFFERENT threads about the same topic, hence my question, "which is the ULTIMATE thread for noobs"
Im sorry, but I dont know which is the right thread and not, if i did, i wouldnt bother asking that question, would i?
there is no "right thread" and they are all full of various things you could do with knowing. there are a lot of people who come here expecting a quick and easy "which is the ULTIMATE thread for noobs" - there is none, they're all relivant.
In theory its just downloading a file, unzip it, connect phone to computer and execute, right?
http://youtu.be/vhSSmdqAXRM
However, after a long life, my experience is that it would be convenient to know more than just the action itself, cause there are always traps, which isnt always mentioned or described in those threads cause they take for granted that people who want to do this already know everything about it.
If there are risks involved doing it, like choosing the wrong vers, having the wrong bb etc, i want to learn and be aware of it BEFORE i attempt or even consider doing it, cause i dont want to brick my phone.
I agree with everything you said here, which is why you should read the threads, they're all relivant
Unfortunatelly i have a daytime job, and not much time left for reading through endless threads and comments, that's why i addressed the experienced members in here that already know what im looking for, and can in his, or her way save me for reading all the stuff that i dont need to know, or are irrelevant in my case
unfortunately, i also have a day time job (oh what a chore hey?) most of the people, including the devs and the more experienced members here have jobs too, i doubt they all came here with instant vast knowledge on how to flash and all of it's woes, i also doubt they just came here and asked someone to pick out all the best bit for them. I bet they read all the posts, dammit they made the posts, the roms you will use, the rooting procedures. everything on here - for you to say "save me for reading all the stuff that i dont need to know, or are irrelevant in my case" is just being ignorant, as i've said everything is relevant, it seems that you want to know everything and share the knowledge but don't want to read about it - it's the only way to learn
Btw, i got a GT-I9300 with 4.1.2 - BB I9300XXEMB5
Dont mean to be rude, but sharing is caring, and i would love to help others in the same way sharing my knowledge, if i could, instead of just inform people about the search function... its getting old.
how do you expect to share knowledge, if you don't read all the info and just get told what you want to know?
Im a little tired of all the wise guys in here sitting on their horses pretending to know everything, but isnt willing to help or share in a nice way, instead just being arrogant in a patronizing way.
i'm pretty sure all the "wise guys" on here are fed up with noobs (I by the way, still consider myself a noob) coming here and asking for things to be given to them on a silver platter! we/they are not being patronizing or arrogant, they are simply telling you to do your research - just like they did.
I can assure you, if you threat people more friendly, people will show more gratefulness in return, and if you dont, u get ungrateful speaches like this in return instead
i think you meant treat not "threat" oh and thanks for the assurance . i'm sorry you are being ungrateful just because someone (I) told you to read up! - it's probably not the best way to get help when you refer to the members as "wise guys" "sitting on their high horses" "being arrogant in a patronizing way" - that's how you portray friendliness?
A good atmosphere is much easier to achieve if you include people, rather than exclude them....
Hope i dint offend you with my "speach"
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not offended at all :crying:
I'm sorry you feel the way you do, but i'm not being an A$$ - i'm telling you that what you need to know is all in those posts.
i'm done :laugh:
Of course mate, i didnt expect you to read for me, lol, but i was hoping to get pointed to the "most relevant" thread about what i wanted to know, and probably one single thread would be more than enough info to read up.
Forums like these are getting out of proportions after some years, and sometimes impossible to navigate through, and why shouldnt i be allowed to ask for help or shortcuts? Who made up that rule?
If i had been here two years longer than you, doesnt mean i need to hold back any info cause i had to learn everything the hard way, instead i would gladly at least guide people in the right direction.
Ive been in allot of different forums over the past years with different kinds if subjects, but never a forum like this where people are so grumpy and very little welcoming and including, there are no "welcome to the forum buddy, i will try my best to guide you in the right direction"
Eventually one will find the way on its own, but sometimes its nice to be lead onto the right path.
I totally agree, and i ALWAYS try to find the answers im looking for through the search function before i ask, but when i stall, i post in a friendly and humble way like i tried to in my original post.
If all the answers to your questions was to read through every topic, there would be vert little activity in here, but then again, maybe easier to browse through.
A forum where its "stupid" or not "allowed" to ask questions is to me more equal to Google... yea, Google is your friend, but sometimes you wish to know more spesific things...
And thanks to you too, im not rooting my phone, cause im not able to find the proper info im looking for... and gives me one more reason to get back to my "boring" Iphone again... but hey, life goes on anyway... :good:
they have a link for the rooting guides for the noobs at the section list
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1703488
All in one tool
appfactory said:
And thanks to you too, im not rooting my phone, cause im not able to find the proper info im looking for... and gives me one more reason to get back to my "boring" Iphone again... but hey, life goes on anyway... :good:
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I don't want to sound arrogant or anything and I am always happy to help, but if you do not find the guide for rooting... it seems you didn't follow the advice given to you in the posts earlier.
That are stickies in the general section which will help you to understand the basics of rooting, flashing etc. And in addition you have tons of YouTube guides out there.
Hence I wish you good luck, anything is out there for you to learn and share later on, just a little bit of effort is needed to get there.
Btw here you go again: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1927113 and even at the beginning of the q&a section: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2148708
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I am going to add that you should pick the method that you actually understand the instructions for . That goes for all other flashes updates etc .
If you don't understand then you will probably be joining the help i bricked my phone club .
jje
JJEgan said:
I am going to add that you should pick the method that you actually understand the instructions for . That goes for all other flashes updates etc .
If you don't understand then you will probably be joining the help i bricked my phone club .
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Finally someone who understands where im going with this, thanks... And that was the intention with this thread, to get a pointer to the one or maybe two or even three or four threads that covers the most essential things... I dont know whats essential or not (yet), i can surely read dozens of how to's but i still dont know if its the right solution for my phone and the vers i have.
A bit like jb an iphone, just download this and do that... "oh, you had that bb vers" "thats the only one thats not compatible with this vers" sorry u bricked your phone.
But it feels like its just, if u got the balls, or know everything about it, just do it, or everything is at your own risk, its a hit or miss thing...
I dont think i will root my phone after all, cause there are so much info on how to do it that differs from eachother, and nobody cant seem to tell which thread is the right one for MY phone...
But thanks anyway, to those that actually tried to point me there...
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Finally someone who understands where im going with this, thanks... And that was the intention with this thread, to get a pointer to the one or maybe two or even three or four threads that covers the most essential things... I dont know whats essential or not (yet), i can surely read dozens of how to's but i still dont know if its the right solution for my phone and the vers i have.
A bit like jb an iphone, just download this and do that... "oh, you had that bb vers" "thats the only one thats not compatible with this vers" sorry u bricked your phone.
But it feels like its just, if u got the balls, or know everything about it, just do it, or everything is at your own risk, its a hit or miss thing...
I dont think i will root my phone after all, cause there are so much info on how to do it that differs from eachother, and nobody cant seem to tell which thread is the right one for MY phone...
But thanks anyway, to those that actually tried to point me there...
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Sorry you are wrong a day or two actually reading the basic faqs and guides is the starting point that you don't want to start with .This is after all a developers forum that has no place spoon feeding those that dont want to learn .
Their is no best the basic stickied faqs and guides all say the same as do the instructions for each method .
The confusion lies in answers to posts like this where xx say this way is best and b say no use x .Unfortunately due to multiple same posts it is not that easy to navigate the forum but the answer to that is for noobs to bother reading the facts and guides before posting repetitive questions .
I would in your case read the instructions and use CF Root method .
jje
Look for cf auto root if you don't want recovery to be stock. Use cf root if u want the custom recovery. To all advanced user out there, correct me if I'm wrong.
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Look for cf auto root if you don't want recovery to be stock. Use cf root if u want the custom recovery. To all advanced user out there, correct me if I'm wrong.
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If youre right, thats the shortest and best answer so far, :good: given
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Look for cf auto root if you don't want recovery to be stock. Use cf root if u want the custom recovery. To all advanced user out there, correct me if I'm wrong.
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Haha. Can't edit with xda app. What I really mean is, cf auto root will not change your recovery. Accidentally put "dont" there.
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Hello there. Basically, I was on the newest (I think) Alliance Rom with Dorimanx kernel for s2. however, it began to get quite buggy, and I tried to flash a new kernel onto it. Siyah. then I tried to flash Cyanogenmod onto it. Restarted, phone won't load past the siyah logo. But I get the siyah recovery menu thing still. But when I try to install the cyanogenmod zip, it fails. I have no other roms on my sd card, or kernels, for that matter.
Please can somebody advise me what to do. I need my phone for work in 5 hours! I was thinking a fix possibly with Odin? Although, I'm guessing if I wiped the phone, kies will no longer be on there. Not sure what it means for it.
thanks.
It's Jellybean by the way
1) Use a more descriptive title than 'HELP !'. Many people will ignore your thread/not read it for that alone (which means you might miss out on help).
2) If you've still got CWRecovery, you still should be able to flash something without resorting to Odin. I would suggest perhaps you're not following the instructions on the first page of the CM thread to the letter. Try it again.
If you really can't flash anything in recovery & still have bootloop (I.E recovery seems broken), get a stock rom from Samfirmware, flash it with Odin = clean slate & you can then re-root your phone & have another go at flashing whatever rom/kernel you want to use.
Thanks, and thanks for telling me about the title, I guess, my apologies, but urgency is urgency.
I can't get any zip files onto my phone or the SD card. so flashing from the phone is pretty much a no.
I can try Odin, however, I barely know what it is. Is anybody willing to just tell me what to click?
No spoon feeding allowed mate. No one will hold your hand and tell you what button to click. I may as well fly over there and do it myself.
If you want to know about Odin flashing click the link in my signature and look at the section on how to flash.
But, I still don't think you need to use Odin. In CWM recovery, Mount usb storage, connect to pc, transfer rom.zip onto phone sd from pc, unmount usb & then flash rom. Done.
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Okay.. Seems a bit odd, being a help section, in a forum. I just figured since I'm dealing with something that could potentially break/brick my phone, I would rather do it right as opposed to wrong, considering I have never done it myself before.
Thanks though, I didn't actually know I could mount it without actually booting the phone. I'll try that.
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Thanks, and thanks for telling me about the title, I guess, my apologies, but urgency is urgency.
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Yet you still haven't changed it. Urgency may well be urgency, but you either want to make that small change & potentially get the help you need if you get stuck further, or you don't. No skin off any of our noses either way *shrugs*.
P.S - Forum rules are forum rules.
Edit - And the reason Hopper said what he said - this may well be a Q&A forum, but that doesn't mean we regurgitate stuff that's been asked/answered thousands of times over the past two years for any n00b who thinks they deserve same.
I'm not even being harsh with what I say. I didn't write out the steps, but I did give you a direct link to a place which lists the steps. That's a legitimate A to your Q.
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Yet you still haven't changed it. Urgency may well be urgency, but you either want to make that small change & potentially get the help you need if you get stuck further, or you don't. No skin off any of our noses either way *shrugs*.
P.S - Forum rules are forum rules.
Edit - And the reason Hopper said what he said - this may well be a Q&A forum, but that doesn't mean we regurgitate stuff that's been asked/answered thousands of times over the past two years for any n00b who thinks they deserve same.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2418262
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2416096
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2413627
Just a few more that just say "help". I can see that it is not posing a ****ing problem. Not to mention (may be my fault) but I don't see any way to change the title.
As far as I'm concerned mate, I wanted help with something, went to the HELP section of a FORUM, and got help, so you can go **** yourself if you have a problem with that. I don't go to forums to just chat about my day. If what I did ask was too much for you, then just let someone help who is more helpful than you. I didn't ask anybody to troll the net for files, or anything of the sort, I asked for legitimate help with something I didn't know how to do.
Either way, I've managed to fix the problem, so no more needs to be done.
Thank you to those who gave me advice.
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Not to mention (may be my fault) but I don't see any way to change the title.
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As far as I'm concerned mate, I wanted help with something, went to the HELP section of a FORUM, and got help, so you can go **** yourself if you have a problem with that. I don't go to forums to just chat about my day. If what I did ask was too much for you, then just let someone who is more helpful than you.
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Please show respect to senior members. They have been here longer than you, obviously dealt with problems much similar to your and want you to search for yourself, that is why the search buttons are there. Did you watch 'I am a noob in XDA Developers' video?
And you obviosuly have no idea why they say this, but it's because you will learn for yourself. In near future you will search and find answers yourself if you start now (which they are trying to make you do) other than just relying on other people to do your work for you. That's not the way XDA developers work.
So rather then being disrespectful and throwing insults at them, you should thank them
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I didn't ask anybody to troll the net for files, or anything of the sort, I asked for legitimate help with something I didn't know how to do.
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They gave you good guidance mate :-/
PS. Kies is crap - get rid of it.
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Please show respect to senior members. They have been here longer than you, obviously dealt with problems much similar to your and want you to search for yourself, that is why the search buttons are there. Did you watch 'I am a noob in XDA Developers' video?
And you obviosuly have no idea why they say this, but it's because you will learn for yourself. In near future you will search and find answers yourself if you start now (which they are trying to make you do) other than just relying on other people to do your work for you. That's not the way XDA developers work.
So rather then being disrespectful and throwing insults at them, you should thank them
They gave you good guidance mate :-/
PS. Kies is crap - get rid of it.
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Yes - I appreciate the fact that I was helped the amount I was, but I could say the same. Is that the best way to treat new members? I have already apologized twice for my mistakes, at least, and I STILL have people telling me I'm doing things wrong. Also, it's not like I haven't thanked them. I think I thanked them at the end of nearly every post. Anything else to pick at?
I'm not trying to disrespect - just trying to prove my point. If you didn't want to help me, don't, just don't ***** about the fact that I wanted help. :/
My problem is fixed, that's all that matters.
thanks again.
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Yes - I appreciate the fact that I was helped the amount I was, but I could say the same. Is that the best way to treat new members? I have already apologized twice for my mistakes, at least, and I STILL have people telling me I'm doing things wrong. Also, it's not like I haven't thanked them. I think I thanked them at the end of nearly every post. Anything else to pick at?
I'm not trying to disrespect - just trying to prove my point. If you didn't want to help me, don't, just don't ***** about the fact that I wanted help. :/
My problem is fixed, that's all that matters.
thanks again.
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Yes it's the right way to treat new members.
You are doing things wrong, respecting other members is a rule of XDA and you're not doing it - so you're doing it wrong.
Good you thanked. But was i necessary to disrespect. Yes you were disrespecting.
Prove your point? That it's okay to spoonfeed newbies and making them think that they wont have to do anything, just ask and wait?! No that's not right, as already stated.
You wanted to help how exactly? To tell us that we should do it 'the way you like it'? No that's wrong, accept it!
Dont come here and try to flame, there's a rule against that. Take you crap elsewhere, cause with that attitude you probably wont get much help around here or anywhere else for that matter.
This is my last post and visit here, so dont even bother commenting if there anything about me.