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Anyone one else think that a sense 3.0 rom on the sgs2 would just be sexy?
I haven't heard of one in the works or even if its possible so excuse me if its already been talked about.
Input on this?
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Even I think this would be immense. I'm buying a sgs2 tomorrow. Can't wait!
For one Congrats man this device is awesome.
And for two, it would just be so smooth on the sgs2. Such a perfect experience I think. And my old device used to be the HTC desire, and I miss it for sure.
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The next one...
The searchbar won't bite you!
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http://bit.ly/xdanoob
I personaly hate sense. So no... I would rather like CM7.
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http://bit.ly/xdanoob
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pulser is on a mission today!
Ha that made me laugh.
Sorry guys noob i am XD
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Intratech said:
pulser is on a mission today!
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but he's right.
people should really start to use the forum search tool.
Its getting annoying to see all the "I can haz Sense 3.0/MIUI plzplz!!1!!" threads
kaukassus said:
but he's right.
people should really start to use the forum search tool.
Its getting annoying to see all the "I can haz Sense 3.0/MIUI plzplz!!1!!" threads
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It's nearly a meme at this point. I half expected to see a big "LOLZ I MADE JOKE!" as the first post in this thread.
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Keep fighting the good fight.
If you want sense 3 buy a Sensation not a GS2.
Check out the various benchmarks online between the sensation and the SGS2 and tell me if you want pretty widgets which potentially slow the phone down or a much faster phone which is slicker and more fluid.
No brainer if you ask me.
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If you want sense 3 buy a Sensation not a GS2.
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Guys, no need to act liks a$$ holes. What the guy who post this simply means is that the excellent functionality of sense 3.0 coupled with the intense power of SGS II will yield a really good phone
i have an SGS II coming from desire HD. Touch wiz is ****, it does not even support scrollable widgets, and no other launcher like ADW to auncher pro offer the same graphics or functionality of sense
whether you agree or disagree, i think that to the majority of android users, i can safely say that sense surpasses any other launcher
It might not be possible to port it now to SGS II, but hell yea, i would love to see it on the SGS II
I have also noticed senior member on this forum treating noobs like ****. Guys dont be J&rks and remember you were noobs before
Double post lol ! I'm such a noob.
Biff.
RADLOUNI said:
Guys, no need to act liks a$$ holes. What the guy who post this simply means is that the excellent functionality of sense 3.0 coupled with the intense power of SGS II will yield a really good phone
i have an SGS II coming from desire HD. Touch wiz is ****, it does not even support scrollable widgets, and no other launcher like ADW to auncher pro offer the same graphics or functionality of sense
whether you agree or disagree, i think that to the majority of android users, i can safely say that sense surpasses any other launcher
It might not be possible to port it now to SGS II, but hell yea, i would love to see it on the SGS II
I have also noticed senior member on this forum treating noobs like ****. Guys dont be J&rks and remember you were noobs before
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Well said I'd much rather see a new thread, than see an old thread reincarnated just to discuss something. Maybe it's against interweb or forum code to make new threads to chat, but personally seeing threads with a million pages is a million times worse than seeing a question asked again and again and saves on having to check the forum day after day seeing no new threads because newbs are afraid to post for fear of being flamed (yes im a newb)
ps. I'd love to see sense on galaxy s 2 as touchwiz is pants, and so are Launcher Pro, Go launcher, ADW and the rest. Sense is about the only decent launcher out there in my book, but the HTC phones don't cut it anymore.
Biff.
So I've been trying to investigate whether Sense will be ported to SGS2 - lucky for me, I didn't create a thread.
I must say, I've read through a dozen thread and all the responses are: "use the search", "don't be a noob" etc etc.
Nowhere did I actually find any info on whether Sense could be / would be ported...
This is a community forum and there are a lot of people who are newbies - to Android, to smartphones... Does that make them stupid? Does that give the "clever" members the right to rip them off? Come on people, surely it's easier to just ignore a thread then to have pages upon pages upon pages of ripping people off?
I love the work the XDA community does but some members are just arrogant and obnoxious - instead of helping people to be less of a "noob", some of you rather just put them down and so they will always be noobs.
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So I've been trying to investigate whether Sense will be ported to SGS2 - lucky for me, I didn't create a thread.
I must say, I've read through a dozen thread and all the responses are: "use the search", "don't be a noob" etc etc.
Nowhere did I actually find any info on whether Sense could be / would be ported...
This is a community forum and there are a lot of people who are newbies - to Android, to smartphones... Does that make them stupid? Does that give the "clever" members the right to rip them off? Come on people, surely it's easier to just ignore a thread then to have pages upon pages upon pages of ripping people off?
I love the work the XDA community does but some members are just arrogant and obnoxious - instead of helping people to be less of a "noob", some of you rather just put them down and so they will always be noobs.
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Hey boet,
if you searched the forum for 'htc sense' you would find 18+ threads asking if sense is/was/will be ported to sgs2. Every day there is someone making a new thread , asking the same thing.
The senior members aren't being dicks, they are trying to keep the forums clean and tidy.
And why does everything have to be spoonfed? Haven't you heard that old proverb( i hope im not struck by lightning, thankfully i'm not on the highveld): give a man some fish, he will eat today. teach him to fish, he can feed himself?
If they dont try and find out for themselves, and post on the relevant topics, then they will always be noobs who cant help themselves. You are correct, 99% of people here were noobs once. but by reading threads/posts by more knowledgable members, you begin to learn.
Me? I'm still a noob. I dont know anywhere near as much as I would like to. Which is why I read what people post(when I have the time).
The answers are out there, if people actually use the search function. I would far rather see 4-5 threads, with a few pages of relevant information, than 20 threads, with 4-5 posts, all asking the same thing. Why does the same information have to be reposted every other day just because someone cant be arsed to read?
As for htc sense being ported over, its possible, like anything is, but bearing in mind that sense still isnt working 100% properly on the sgs1, its probably not likely in the near future. which is an answer which has been posted more than once, and not by me, I just did a search and read it(more than once, and in more than one thread).
Most xda members will help you, no questions asked. They just expect you to put a little effort in, instead of whining or being too lazy to use the search function or too lazy to read a thread or not being arsed to even post full details of their problem.
Nevermind about even reading the stickies which have useful information.
Sorry about the rant, but come on.
I honestly doesn't get it.
Why does everybody hate TouchWiz? And from what is seems on this thread, everyone loves HTC Sense
I think TouchWiz is awesome and looking good, unlike the HTC Sense which is effin ugly!
I am a noob, as a noob i know i have to use the search function so i dont gey flamed if i ask a question, but some people are truly annoying with their "use search bar" and thier xda noob video. ive seen some people just post the video on every.qurstion ive read, instead of doing that, what harm could come from just answering the question? You want to keep the forum clean? The question is already made, why not answer it again. Do you know how many pages are in the sgs 1 forum? Imagine going page through page just to get to the last one and see that the question you wanted answered just has some random guy posting the xda noob video.
I think all we noobs, including me (i may be a long time android user but i always want to learn more) should just get together and start making all our questions, even if theyve been answered before just to piss off all the people that post the xda video!! Just as it pisses me off when i see them answer a valid question with a stupid video.
I can just imagine some people, they must have the xda video ready and must go searching all day for noob questions just so he can put the video an laugh to himself.
If you see this is another htc sense kn gs2 question why do you bother looking inside. Just skip on by and let someone who actually wants to help answer the question. You are just making it harder to go through the question with a worthless video.
Im pretty sure some random guy is going to come and quote my rant and post the xda video, and im probably just going to laugh at the time he spent reading this just to paste a stupid url.
Sorry for the rant, but i am really annoyed by all this, and as i said before, to all noobs, just post your questions, someone will be willing to help, most of them will just send you a video url, but there are still some people that remember they were noobs.
The Q&A is for questions and answers so just deal with it!!
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Howdy all! If you've seen me around you'll know I love being an active member of these forums. With my job I have free time some days (some days NONE lol) and helping people makes me happy. I hate causing problems. But there has been a rash of interesting posts within the last 6 months (maybe going back farther but there has been an increase in the past 6 months that I've noticed) of people beginning their posts with:
" sorry for the noob question, but..."
Also, some start with, " sorry I did a search but I'm pressed for time and...."
OK. Look. When I joined up, I had to watch a video. It showed me how much of a noob I am, and told me to search, then search some more, and finally, SEARCH. Again. Now, maybe I'm crazy, but that is still XDA policy. Just because yer new, it doesn't give u an excuse to be lazy. Just because yer in a hurry , it doesn't give u the right to ignore the rules u agreed to when u signed up here.
I was a noob too. A year ago. Guess what? From day one I searched. And searched. And searched again. Why? Cause I love solving as many problems as I can ON MY OWN. Lets try and get back to that. Google search is a great tool. Yes the mobile app search is limited. But u have a browser on your phone. U can go to the actual site and search there as well. Remember, we're a community. And these rules are put in place to help us and maintain some semblence of order.
Remember folks when u search first, and don't post a new thread for something easily found, it not only looks better for u. But it reflects the respect u have for this community and its mods/devs.
Good luck all, happy flashing.
P.S. Red, if have to close this thread, just know this meets my quota for rants for the month.
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I like this guy, but I have low expectations.
I personally have NO issue reading "noobie" questions. Everyone is different and I don't expect they must act like me. For you, me and others who spot a so-called "noob question", if you don't want to help then report the thread/post to mod so they can take care of. Yelling at newbies just makes the matter worse and that have been proved for ......... like you said, the past 6 months.
What irritates me more is SAME person asking the SAME question by creating multiple threads.
Therefore, for us, seniors, if you're not willing to help then just simply walk away from the thread, don't post, don't act like you are the mod.
One other issue, don't be an ass-kisser here.
For newbie, pls read the sticky thread FIRST.
This is 100% correct but you are missing one other important word to go with your "rules, etiquette and respect" slogan and that word is "Attention"
People need to pay attention! So if you could just change the title of the thread to "Rules, Etiquette, Attention, and Respect" or R.E.A.R. for short? Then I think that will cover it. So next time someone asks a question in the wrong thread? I can just point them right to your R.E.A.R.
Most of us are coming to under stand that there is no help what so ever for what the old gaurd calls common qustions so we just go else where
I spent 18 hours sunday working on my phone and I am happy with the results.
The biggest problem is even the fairly detailed instructions leave out the tiniest simple things people do not think of because they just figure everyone on earth should know it.
take for example if you are trying to get your phone ready and going right now the easiest way is to use the directions and flash to a older SU rom then up grade it from there. I searched for hours and could not find an answer to a simple question on why Odin would not upload the files I was trying to load so I had CWM.
In the end the answer, which I figured out my self, was that Odin will not load the .zip files everyone uses for CWM. I accedently tripped over a kernel that was in a different format,.tar, and got lucky.
After that I soft bricked the phone a few times following directions and then ran across the Little bricker Rom that had GREAT directions and loaded first time perfectly.
So for you old timers I might say step back every once in a while when you are writing the great write ups you do and think of the first time you did it. It is the little things that count and are left out most of the time
As Android grows you are going to have to deal with it more and more and you just can't keep kicking people in the teeth or they will not return. GOOD you say? No not good. Not everyone wants an Apple and you do not want to wind up like Nokia or the old PDA platforms that are dead and gone.
So take this how you may. I did get where I needed to go but a simple 20 minute gig took 18 hours to figure out because of the little things all of you take for granted and do not always include.
Thank you for the site
All said here is true but as a noob i must say that there is a lack of usual information here.
A BIG lack...
The problem is visual.
The stickies was made by a dev. Just find a good NOOB to do it and youll be fine.
The first stickie must be how to flash a rom. But this one is not there. It is inside of another stickie at the line 157... cmon
The noob that decides to flash wont read all the stuff. He'll just read the info that he wants.
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All said here is true but as a noob i must say that there is a lack of usual information here.
A BIG lack...
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I don't think there is a lack of information, far from it. I think the problem is that the information is scattered. For example, the guy 2 posts up that tried to use a .zip in Odin...the information that you need to use a .tar is posted in these forums, it's just not in an easily accessible place like the FAQs. I think it's a combination of: lack of organization on the forum's side and laziness on the user's side.
Sorry about my english, there is a communication lack.
you are right, the info was there but people just dont get it...why is that?
Ive edited my previous post...
There is too much info. The noob needs the basic. Step by step he will learn.
Inside the Red stickie, look at the title of the topics listed there.
That is chinese to a noob.
How to flash custom binaries... what a hell is a binarie?
How to flash... the counter?
What... counter?
That is not made for noobies...as i said before, find a noob to do it.
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Howdy all! If you've seen me around you'll know I love being an active member of these forums. With my job I have free time some days (some days NONE lol) and helping people makes me happy. I hate causing problems. But there has been a rash of interesting posts within the last 6 months (maybe going back farther but there has been an increase in the past 6 months that I've noticed) of people beginning their posts with:
" sorry for the noob question, but..."
Also, some start with, " sorry I did a search but I'm pressed for time and...."
OK. Look. When I joined up, I had to watch a video. It showed me how much of a noob I am, and told me to search, then search some more, and finally, SEARCH. Again. Now, maybe I'm crazy, but that is still XDA policy. Just because yer new, it doesn't give u an excuse to be lazy. Just because yer in a hurry , it doesn't give u the right to ignore the rules u agreed to when u signed up here.
I was a noob too. A year ago. Guess what? From day one I searched. And searched. And searched again. Why? Cause I love solving as many problems as I can ON MY OWN. Lets try and get back to that. Google search is a great tool. Yes the mobile app search is limited. But u have a browser on your phone. U can go to the actual site and search there as well. Remember, we're a community. And these rules are put in place to help us and maintain some semblence of order.
Remember folks when u search first, and don't post a new thread for something easily found, it not only looks better for u. But it reflects the respect u have for this community and its mods/devs.
Good luck all, happy flashing.
P.S. Red, if have to close this thread, just know this meets my quota for rants for the month.
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you're not even a mod...what gives you the right to post this?
I think some of you have forgotten how this place originally came about and its primary purpose. It was and still is, mostly, a place for developers and development. It was never supposed to be a help desk. That it is a great resource for people needing help is a secondary byproduct, not its raison de'tre. I think this misunderstanding is what leads to incorrect assumptions and expectations and, in turn, hurt feelings when the forum doesn't meet what some think it should be.
RatusNatus said:
Sorry about my english, there is a communication lack.
you are right, the info was there but people just dont get it...why is that?
Ive edited my previous post...
There is too much info. The noob needs the basic. Step by step he will learn.
Inside the Red stickie, look at the title of the topics listed there.
That is chinese to a noob.
How to flash custom binaries... what a hell is a binarie?
How to flash... the counter?
What... counter?
That is not made for noobies...as i said before, find a noob to do it.
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I respectfully disagree. The noob does not need a step by step guide. The noob needs to read, research, and learn so that he (or she) can make sense of the available information. a quick guide so the noob "can haz ROM nao" is only going to lead to a disappointed, knowledge lacking noob later on down the line...
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Yes Miami but this place become a lot bigger than any dev could think.
Is this bad?
Devs cant complaim about it.
This is the price if sucess.
Just get over it...
Ps. I think he post it cuz he want...
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And you need to remember that the developers in here, for the most part, don't get paid for what they do. We get all their great stuff for free. Actually, we get it for the cost of doing our own research and finding our own solutions. Seems like a fair trade to me.
And as dandrum noted, helping noobs by leading them by the hand is a bad idea. People need to understand fully what they are doing and what it does because otherwise when they inevitably run into a problem they will have no idea what to do to fix it or where to start to even look. This stuff isn't rocket science, but it does require a certain level of comprehension. it is unfair to expect the unpaid members of this forum to bail people out when something goes wrong because they either didn't do their homework or have no understanding of what they're doing.
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Yes Miami but this place become a lot bigger than any dev could think.
Is this bad?
Devs cant complaim about it.
This is the price if sucess.
Just get over it...
Ps. I think he post it cuz he want...
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No they absolutely can complain because this is still a developer Site no matter how popular it becomes.
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you're not even a mod...what gives you the right to post this?
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What gives you the right to post? You're not a mod either. Also, basically everything he said was correct.
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From my perspective I feel as though the vast majority of the time I have virtually no reason to post.
This is usually because of one of the following:
a- someone else has asked a question that I do not have the answer to, not that I'm a n00b but do not know or I would rather leave it up to the real devs to deal with it;
b- I would just be either flaming someone for asking a stupid question or leave a stupid question unanswered because some things should just be figured out by yourself; or most importantly
c- if i have a question or some other issue I can search for it or spend time reading through many posts because there are enough people and knowledgeable people around here that at this point my question or any sort of problem has already been answered, or at least the question has already been asked so there is no reason to spam the same questions over and over.
so just always remember before you make a possibly redundant post there are plenty of us sitting back and reading because usually that is all you need to do
What gives you the right to post? You're not a mod either. Also, basically everything he said was correct.
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good one..
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good one..
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Wasn't supposed to be. The logic is sound.
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Lol, did you really had to made this useless post?
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Lol, did you really had to made this useless post?
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**** has been outlined in almost every single thread I have look into.
Hello,
How to change theme?
I browsed themes threads but there is nowhere simple written how to do that. I've seen some themes for CM9 or others but I want for just stock.
By saying theme I do not mean changing app drawer and some icons via 3rd party launcher. What I mean is change of every element of GUI - button size, button shape, color of "progress bar", colors of checkboxes, animations ect.
I noticed it is very, very, very hard to change there in Android. Why's that? Even old Symbian 60v3 allowed users to change full theme during phone's work without any system flashing ect.
I've seen some theme changer - metamorpher - but it seems it is already dead.
So... how to achieve what I want? Is it only available via flashing new ROMs?
Where are themes for stock owners of system? I've seen mainly for CM9.
It'd be good to write some tutorials for n00bs like me - honestly I couldn't find any related to my question - perhaps it is due to xda is enormous forum, not too readable at all with that all non-default font chars everywhere
Cheers.
Burgscheinkerkdeiktraast said:
Hello,
How to change theme?
I browsed themes threads but there is nowhere simple written how to do that. I've seen some themes for CM9 or others but I want for just stock.
By saying theme I do not mean changing app drawer and some icons via 3rd party launcher. What I mean is change of every element of GUI - button size, button shape, color of "progress bar", colors of checkboxes, animations ect.
I noticed it is very, very, very hard to change there in Android. Why's that? Even old Symbian 60v3 allowed users to change full theme during phone's work without any system flashing ect.
I've seen some theme changer - metamorpher - but it seems it is already dead.
So... how to achieve what I want? Is it only available via flashing new ROMs?
Where are themes for stock owners of system? I've seen mainly for CM9.
BIG GUESS in the THEMES section .
It'd be good to write some tutorials for n00bs like me - honestly I couldn't find any related to my question - perhaps it is due to xda is enormous forum, not too readable at all with that all non-default font chars everywhere
Why noobs mostly refuse to read FAQS and Guides .
Developers forum is by definition hard its not some pick and mix sweet shop . You want you learn simple.
jje
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Samsung firmware can be themed but it's not as simple as clicking on a theme like aosp cm9 or miui firmware can with their theme engines.
In the general android forum there is massive amounts of info and tutorials. In the SGS2 forum there
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Samsung firmware can be themed but it's not as simple as clicking on a theme like aosp cm9 or miui firmware can with their theme engines.
In the general android forum there is massive amounts of info and tutorials. In the SGS2 forum there is a good thread about it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1433053
Lots of reading all ending in flashing a zip via CWM.
Good luck and enjoy.
Edit: keep an eye on jkay mods and themes.
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Why noobs mostly refuse to read FAQS and Guides .
Developers forum is by definition hard its not some pick and mix sweet shop . You want you learn simple.
jje
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And this is what a useless person does, all day long, without moving an inch, helping direct someone to a possible solution (like most of the people here do).
jaja
filthykid said:
And this is what a useless person does, all day long, without moving an inch, helping direct someone to a possible solution (like most of the people here do).
jaja
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So yet another poster intent on dragging the forum into the **** .
Gone from a developers forum to a i want i want i wont do anything you give me now forum.
jje
JJEgan said:
So yet another poster intent on dragging the forum into the **** .
Gone from a developers forum to a i want i want i wont do anything you give me now forum.
jje
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Then better abstain from giving your vacuous comments to these noobs, when you know you're definitely no good to help them. Perhaps, by now you must realize nobody listens to your faeces comments, which, as I said earlier, are too useless, just like you...So better stay quiet.
jujo
filthykid said:
Then better abstain from giving your vacuous comments to these noobs, when you know you're definitely no good to help them. Perhaps, by now you must realize nobody listens to your faeces comments, which, as I said earlier, are too useless, just like you...So better stay quiet.
jujo
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2031989&postcount=45
JJEgan said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2031989&postcount=45
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A polite enemy is just as difficult to discredit, as a rude friend is to protect.
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filthykid said:
A polite enemy is just as difficult to discredit, as a rude friend is to protect.
-Bryant H. McGill
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And what are you contributing to answer the OPs question.
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aceofclubs said:
And what are you contributing to answer the OPs question.
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Perhaps this is why I didn't reply to this thread when I read it the first time. If you can’t guide someone, you don’t have the right to be rude to them. Taunting and being rude won’t do any good to anyone. A politer tone could be used to guide someone.
Thanks for efforts - I read themes forum but there is no direct statement in FAQ or something - example "these themes are for stock, these are for CM9". I know there is prefix in thread title but how does n00b know this prefix means it is absolute and only for example CM9 or can be used on other ROMs too but it is not confirmed or tested.
I didn't mean to insult anything - people make great efforts to morph our phones into better, however from my n00b view some things are not written clearly.
From the time perspective for me it is easy to install ROM via Odin.
But I remember when first time wanted to flash it.
Almost nowhere clearly was written from what start searching new ROM? WHat do numbers XXLPS9 mean ect. I had to browse many threads (really many) to gather one full information. It took me long time - it can be seen funny and now reading some posts I know what most of numbers mean but from the perspective of fresh r00kie n00b it was hard.
Just because there was no such info.
Regarding themes it is similar situation - many threads with themes for various ROMs. But nowhere is written directly how, what and which theme for what ROM should be used.
Everyone knows for semi experienced user such info like in threads are is enough, but for fresh meat changing theme is crazy like hell. In this aspect Android doesn't help - it is really 100 years behind Symbian 60v3 in themes applyying procedure.
BTW - I had two bootloops because I changed fonts.
I will continue to browse themes threads and gather all info and try to mix it up.
Cheers.
You're 100% correct, what I have found here on XDA is you're on your own to piece together all the info you can. The problem is all the info is mixed in with SO many BS posts. ("You did this wrong you did that wrong" "You posted in the wrong section" And of course mixed in with all the internet tuff guys etc. etc.) I see what you're trying to do and it would be GREAT! I would highly recommend you do put together a detailed thread with all the info in one thread!!! I don't know if you seen this thread by Vert here is the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19098932
Sorry I couldn't be more helpful, i'm trying to learn all this my self. GL
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JJEgan said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2031989&postcount=45
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That is a great link!! I'll be giving it out to many people..... I fully respect and understand every word. The journey is the the fun part, the end result all tho cool is boring.....
filthykid said:
And this is what a useless person does, all day long, without moving an inch, helping direct someone to a possible solution (like most of the people here do).
jaja
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I fully agree with jje.
99% of the questions asked here, have been asked before. Most noobs;" not all ", cant be bothered to do a simple search. They want answers and they want them now. I have lost count hows many times i have repeated the same old answer to the same old question by yet another lazy noob. Google search is an amazing tool.
You could if you was not so lazy. Find all the answers you want without ever asking a question.
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Hello,
I recently got a HDX 7" and had it rolledback to 13.3.2.7 and got it rooted and safestraped with a backup of stock on my pc and a image i am messing around with.
Whoever i would like to flash normal android on,my question is how do i do that and what are the compatibility issues and risks i face if i flash it with safestrap.
Thanks in advance
wow
Davengerr said:
Hello,
I recently got a HDX 7" and had it rolledback to 13.3.2.7 and got it rooted and safestraped with a backup of stock on my pc and a image i am messing around with.
Whoever i would like to flash normal android on,my question is how do i do that and what are the compatibility issues and risks i face if i flash it with safestrap.
Thanks in advance
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wow sorry bud but that's just way too much information to just drag over here to your thread it all depends on if you're capable of doing the job correctlyI would highly recommend going over to the development section and just start reading that is the only way you are going to know for sure is 250 peoples experiences not just one that comes over here to your thread and decides to give you a quick easy information. It is what it is.everything you dreamed of knowing about this device is here if you're willing to look for it...there are a bunch of very very recent development items that you're going to want to do your own homework on anyway not just one guy that thinks he knows it all come over here and help you screw up your device...good luck and enjoy your new Kindle
to sum it up there are risks with everything depending on ability to do proper research, comprehension level and ability to follow directions. .hell for some wiping their ass and tying their shoes have more risk than safestrap does when used properly.
@jimyv : I look around some similar thread, I can see many of your comment, you always typed many many things, but mostly no useful information for newbie point of view, even an useful link.
If you can not help them, just get out and no need to comment.
Sorry, but it is a little bit annoyed here.
lupin87 said:
@jimyv : I look around some similar thread, I can see many of your comment, you always typed many many things, but mostly no useful information for newbie point of view, even an useful link.
If you can not help them, just get out and no need to comment.
Sorry, but it is a little bit annoyed here.
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well I'm sorry that you haven't found many of my comments useful obviously you haven't read very many of them but obviously some of my more aggravated ones have caught your attention you're welcome to look at my profile and check out my activity for the last year and a half I helped over a dozen people fix their bricked devices and contributed and many many helpful links which resulted in nothing but people trolling and being lazy and lazier and lazier I am simply trying to get people to do as I did and research and find their own information before adding additional clutter tothe forums...it's fine to be a noob everybody has been a noob at one time. And when you spend enough time here and with enough devices you will figure out that you just cannot help lazy people that are unwilling to find their own research at least to an extent. You're welcome to spend hundreds of hours of your time running around the forums cutting and pasting links to help the lazy ones but soon you will figure out that's all you are doing is enabling a growing problem. in other words the more I have helped them the less they actually knew orlearn because of not doing something the long way.
as some would say anything worth having is worth earning it yourself for the hard work / research. I noticed that most of the folks that do exactly these kinds of threads all of a sudden think they know everything. And then brick because they don't know near as much as I they need to because somebody came over to their one thread and gave them a little information or a couple of links. that they only partially read anyway. And then they are starting another thread. Titled PLEASE HELP I BRICKED MY DEVICE!!! identical to 30 threads that are dealing with the identical situations and .I have personally been up for several hours at a timetrying to help these types of people and they just simply cannot follow directions. And or most the time trying to translate it and screw it up in the translation somehow and then run away and start another thread because they still cannot get it right no matter how many people are trying to help them or how many links you give them. It's a waste of resources and everybody's time.it's just unbelievable to me that all this information is here already if they would just go and find them. they just choose not to. or believe they do not have the time to read them and expect special treatment and or catered to for some reason...I'm sorry I made the time and I'm a busy man and it seems disrespectful to me for anybody else to think they deserve different treatment
so to sum it up you are welcome to spend even half as much time in these forums researching reading and dragging pasting and copying links and see if you don't get a little bitter when you like to come here and find stuff yourself and its all cluttered up with repetition and threads starting with a question that was answered in the thread that was right below theirs READ THE THREADS and learn from other peoples experiences. Then you will adequately realize the risk that you are taking. You are not getting enough information when you start one of these threads to go doing the modifications that people are doing. All the information is here .
that's annoying it happens way too often and a lot more often than my snappy comments..
i vote @jimyv for moderator
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i vote @jimyv for moderator
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Roflmfao
glad somebody still has a sense of humor lol I know from experience you can tend to get a little jaded hanging around here too much. I can't help but lurk though..I do own three HDX devices and development has been pretty much a dead fish.( until very recently I must say very cheesy) Compared to the other 15 devices that I maintain for myself and family. As a full-time mechanic and father I spend way too much time in here I know. and to those that have been insultedby what I have had to say I am probably speaking directly to you ,others probably just get a kick from me watching get aggravated. And many more out there that are silent know exactly what I am speaking of and refuse to help anybody anymore because said issues (much of the true talent) unfortunately,and that is the true loss.
This will be a launching pad for tips and recommendations for members negotiating long threads and reading pertinent information. I read many posts with members stating that the thread is just too long to read. Then using that as an excuse for not reading at all. Please add your ideas and methods for reading.
The first thing I do when looking at a new thread is read the OP. I always check dates and also the date of the latest iteration of the ROM, kernel, etc. after reading what the author wrote about their thread I'll jump to the end of the thread and read backwards to the date of the latest release. This gets me up to date with the latest build and any issues.
Then I'll decide if I want to flash this on my very expensive device.
Like I said...
Please add on your tips!
Thanks!
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This will be a launching pad for tips and recommendations for members negotiating long threads and reading pertinent information. Please add your ideas and methods for reading.
The first thing I do when looking at a new thread is read the OP. I always check dates and also the date of the latest iteration of the ROM, kernel, etc. after reading what the author wrote about their thread I'll jump to the end of the thread and read backwards to the date of the latest release. This gets me up to date with the latest build and any issues.
Then I'll decide if I want to flash this on my very expensive device.
Like I said...
Please add on your tips!
Thanks!
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Hi...
The way you use to read a thread pretty much summarize the way I do it myself. I go a step further by searching within the said thread with some key words such as:
Problem, issue, brick, bricked, bootloop, etc...
I may sound paranoid, but I often browse the forum late at night and I could miss an important post due to being tired.
Cheers...
Great idea Ray. Teach by teaching, not by beating a person over the head lol
I go to the OP also and if I am interested in flashing, go back a month or two and read posts to see if things are stable or not. I also follow a bunch of Roms that I don't intent to flash or, have flashed before - just to see what kind of problems have arisen and how they were dealt with. It's a great way to pass a ride on the train or other idle time. I do think that there are many from around the world here and language might be a factor effecting their ability to read and/or search. Either way, I love this XDA, a valued tool! Too bad I came along so late in the game.
Bobbaloo said:
Great idea Ray. Teach by teaching, not by beating a person over the head lol
I go to the OP also and if I am interested in flashing, go back a month or two and read posts to see if things are stable or not. I also follow a bunch of Roms that I don't intent to flash or, have flashed before - just to see what kind of problems have arisen and how they were dealt with. It's a great way to pass a ride on the train or other idle time. I do think that there are many from around the world here and language might be a factor effecting their ability to read and/or search. Either way, I love this XDA, a valued tool! Too bad I came along so late in the game.
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Great to have you. You're a big help to many folk.
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Hi...
The way you use to read a thread pretty much summarize the way I do it myself. I go a step further by searching within the said thread with some key words such as:
Problem, issue, brick, bricked, bootloop, etc...
I may sound paranoid, but I often browse the forum late at night and I could miss an important post due to being tired.
Cheers...
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You're right!
Performing a search can be an art form. Using the just right keyword to be successful takes some practice. It is so important to try many paths and exhaust all possibilities before posting your question in the threads. And then phrasing your question with all your information is important as well.
RayMcGrath said:
You're right!
Performing a search can be an art form. Using the just right keyword to be successful takes some practice. It is so important to try many paths and exhaust all possibilities before posting your question in the threads. And then phrasing your question with all your information is important as well.
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Well, since my first modded android phone in 2008, i have never felt the need of asking anything. Most likely because all issues I encountered were already covered. Either by developers or people answering issues reported by previous users having the same problems. And maybe because I like to get things done by myself. (Which I achieve 1% of the time ).
I check XDA almost every day since. I must say that the "reading thing" may sound challenging for some people. You'll ask me why?
What follows is about novice users for the most part who don't know about/how to use the search function. Try reading a thread where 100 users come each and every day writing the same thing about the same problem over and over. And over again...
Trying to find the relevant posts in-between all this mess is sometimes quite discouraging.
I'm lucky to have affinity with English and of course it's a lot easier to read and find infos when I need them. Google translate became really nice with time. Yet i find myself using it, since English is not my native language and I learned it the hard way. Sometimes it's sad to see people not using such a powerful tool.
People, please use the search function! Take some time to read. If you don't get it, use an online translator. :good:
PS: Hopefully I didn't derail too much from the OP with this post... I'll delete it if needed.
5.1 said:
Well, since my first modded android phone in 2008, i have never felt the need of asking anything. Most likely because all issues I encountered were already covered. Either by developers or people answering issues reported by previous users having the same problems. And maybe because I like to get things done by myself. (Which I achieve 1% of the time ).
I check XDA almost every day since. I must say that the "reading thing" may sound challenging for some people. You'll ask me why?
What follows is about novice users for the most part who don't know about/how to use the search function. Try reading a thread where 100 users come each and every day writing the same thing about the same problem over and over. And over again...
Trying to find the relevant posts in-between all this mess is sometimes quite discouraging.
I'm lucky to have affinity with English and of course it's a lot easier to read and find infos when I need them. Google translate became really nice with time. Yet i find myself using it, since English is not my native language and I learned it the hard way. Sometimes it's sad to see people not using such a powerful tool.
People, please use the search function! Take some time to read. If you don't get it, use an online translator. :good:
PS: Hopefully I didn't derail too much from the OP with this post... I'll delete it if needed.
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From the beginning, searching for the answer - did someone else have the same situation and fix it(?) - THIS always seemed easier and more gratifying than waiting for someone to answer me on a thread
Actually, I was flashing macks ROM, then CM on my note 2 and I didn't even KNOW XDA existed. I was so grateful when I found it. Especially when I got this phone. With Google ai, now it seems so much easier to do a quick search on the web
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From the beginning, searching for the answer - did someone else have the same situation and fix it(?) - THIS always seemed easier and more gratifying than waiting for someone to answer me on a thread
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Yeah I know how you feel! At least for me having no real technical knowledge, I'm always glad to find the solutions by myself. Since it's around and just needs a search it's even faster than waiting for an answer. Also, since I only need to search when my phone is broken, I simply can't wait for someone to answer. Imagine no one replied during two days...
Bobbaloo said:
Actually, I was flashing macks ROM, then CM on my note 2 and I didn't even KNOW XDA existed. I was so grateful when I found it. Especially when I got this phone. With Google ai, now it seems so much easier to do a quick search on the web
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This is the first place I found when I started to flash my HTC vision back in 2008. I started reading guides and development and was like: WTF these guys are cracking bootloader, carrier unlocking, etc... And all can be found so easily... :good: