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I was trying to perma root my EVO 3D with the revolutioary tool but it didnt support my bootloader (HBoot 1.5). Is ther another way I can perma or at least temp root my phone?
If I'm not mistaken you have to use htc's method of unlocking your phone with the hboot you have. Its quite a few threads on this particular subject in q & a. I don't think rev supports that hboot as of yet. If you want the link here it is
http://htcdev.com/bootloader/
But I strongly suggest you read the method htc provides to be sure its the route you want to take. Also you should.definitely read read read the q & a to gain a better understanding of what it is and to get users feedback and experiences. I don't personally recommend this method htc uses but I think its the only way to unlock and gain root to your phone with your particular hboot. Hope this helps.
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Thank you. I have unlocked my boot loader using HTC's method and now I'm confused on how to root my phone. I'm new to this as u probably can tell. Thanks again.
You have to flash a recovery. Either twrp or clock work mod. If you choose clock work mod then you can download rom manger from the market and flash it from there. If you chose twrp the you can look Here for the latest
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192077
Also here a guide that might help you with it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1239821
Hope this helps
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1.5 was an ambush ! It plugged the temp root hole, it has also jacked up installing any roms so far on mine...
Do not go near the latest 2 sprint updates !!!!
As for htc unlocker, its a peice of crap and doesnt work on about 40% of phones spring tech support mgr told me when i called to demand a defination of an error code it gives...
And they refuse to support it
sprint bastages are as bad a apple scum...
HTC method works just as well as regular unlock.. it doesn't not work with 40% of phones either. 40% of people just can't follow a simple tutorial...
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Actually jlear3 it does not ! If you read the htc unlocker page it directly tells you that evo 3d is exempt from the working unlocker pgm
With 1.5 you cant do jack ! No recovery , no temp root, no roms, nothing !!!! What part of that do you not understand....
My phone came with 1.5 and have been able to use htc unlock and flash anything I want.
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Malikione said:
My phone came with 1.5 and have been able to use htc unlock and flash anything I want.
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I agree. It's not hard to follow a tutorial. My replacement phone shipped with hboot 1.50, I was unaware that the original root method I used on my original 3D wouldn't work, which directed me to htc's unlocker. I unlocked, and was able to get TWRP recovery as well as superuser, flashed a ROM and have been pretty good so far. The only thing I'm aware you can not do is flash radios. Custom Kernel's are available via fastboot, but I haven't delved into that yet.
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Hey guys, anyone have advice on whether or not to use HtcDev unlock method or wait for another method? I have a protection plan through Best Buy and they don't even check to see if its been "tampered" or not if I need a replacement. I am coming from EVO 3D and had hboot v1.4 so I never needed to use the HTC method. Just curious if it is harder to flash Roms and kernels with HTC method I guess. Thanks for the help in advance and its great to see such great devs working on this great phone already.
For the 3d it was a little harder, but not sure if that's the case for the LTE. I am personally gonna wait for s-off, but there is an app that let's you flash kernels without going through fastboot. Flashimage GUI I'm sure it will have to be updated to work with the LTE if It's even needed.
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There is no s-off right now, but there are custom recoveries that work with the HTCDev unlock. Which means, custom roms and backups.
So am I correct in assuming that htcdev unlock with a custom recovery will function the same as s-off in terms of flashing roms, kernels, etc.? Also I should be able to still execute an s-off after performing the htcdev unlock, correct? I would hate to do the htc unlock method and then not be able to get s-off... Thanks again guys!
I have a similar question. When i use HTC dev to unlock, they will keep track. Do they notify sprint that my phone is no longer stock? Can you htc dev LOCK, so as to get it back to normal? I kinda don't even want to root if I have to let HTC know that I'm doing it by htc dev.
jirafabo said:
I have a similar question. When i use HTC dev to unlock, they will keep track. Do they notify sprint that my phone is no longer stock? Can you htc dev LOCK, so as to get it back to normal? I kinda don't even want to root if I have to let HTC know that I'm doing it by htc dev.
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When you dev unlock HTC keeps the sn of your phone on file as being unlocked, I doubt they say anything to Sprint though. Even if you relock HTC still knows. I would give it a couple weeks and see if we get s-off if not then you might want to reconsider htcs method.
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So am I correct in assuming that htcdev unlock with a custom recovery will function the same as s-off in terms of flashing roms, kernels, etc.? Also I should be able to still execute an s-off after performing the htcdev unlock, correct? I would hate to do the htc unlock method and then not be able to get s-off... Thanks again guys!
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Not sure about s-off after unlock though I don't see why you couldn't, but on the 3d with the HTC unlock method you had to either fastboot into recovery through adb or use flashimage GUI to flash kernels.
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First off htc dev sucks. I had it for a while on my evo 3d with hboot 1.5 and it was terrible and I was dying from being confused on how to flash roms. It worked great for some people and for others like me it didn't. So far right now i'm htcdev unlocked and it's fine I guess. Of course once we get s-off i'll totally go that way as s-off is soooooo much better than the dev unlock.
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First off htc dev sucks. I had it for a while on my evo 3d with hboot 1.5 and it was terrible and I was dying from being confused on how to flash roms. It worked great for some people and for others like me it didn't. So far right now i'm htcdev unlocked and it's fine I guess. Of course once we get s-off i'll totally go that way as s-off is soooooo much better than the dev unlock.
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Yeah I heard it was terrible on the 3D, luckily I had hboot 1.4 so I had s-off... Is it as terrible with the LTE? It seems to me that with clockworkmod recovery and htcdev unlock you are able to flash zips the same as with s-off. Don't know if I am correct on that though...
I thought I read that somewhere too. If that's the case HTC dev unlock would be fine with me.
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durandetto said:
I thought I read that somewhere too. If that's the case HTC dev unlock would be fine with me.
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Yea me too, I have already registered with the htcdev website just awaiting confirmation that I can flash zips as usual...
Use TWRP. That recovery writes to boot, the security flag dont matter with this phone like it did with the 3D. Once your unlocked (HTC way) you can always relock very easily. The first time I flashed a recovery it stuck on the first try unlike the 3D with hboot 1.5.
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Use TWRP. That recovery writes to boot, the security flag dont matter with this phone like it did with the 3D. Once your unlocked (HTC way) you can always relock very easily. The first time I flashed a recovery it stuck on the first try unlike the 3D with hboot 1.5.
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Yea thats what I seem to be reading. It seems if you just flash the ruu that it will re-lock the phone as if it was never done. Sounds great, I will try it out tonight! Thanks guys
HTC unlocked last night no problems. Also rooted first in under a min on Friday night after I picked the phone up. use Goo manager in the market to install TWRP after HTC unlocked, very easy. flashed viper ROM today, and everything is fast and sweet. Don't know what U are all waiting for, go ahead.
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HTC unlocked last night no problems. Also rooted first in under a min on Friday night after I picked the phone up. use Goo manager in the market to install TWRP after HTC unlocked, very easy. flashed viper ROM today, and everything is fast and sweet. Don't know what U are all waiting for, go ahead.
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Cool Ryan thanks for the confirmation I will be rooting and unlocking tonight!
Now if the htc unlock allows us to write to boot to flash recovery and kernels, would there even be a reason to wait for dev S-off? besides not having to register with htc?
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Now if the htc unlock allows us to write to boot to flash recovery and kernels, would there even be a reason to wait for dev S-off? besides not having to register with htc?
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Flashing different radios, I believe. Can't do that without S-OFF.
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Use TWRP. That recovery writes to boot, the security flag dont matter with this phone like it did with the 3D. Once your unlocked (HTC way) you can always relock very easily. The first time I flashed a recovery it stuck on the first try unlike the 3D with hboot 1.5.
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Just to clarify: So unlocking via the HTC method, installing this and then un-rooting with the RUU (if necessary) won't show any evidence of 'tampering', correct?
It might not show any evedence but HTC will know, they keep track of what phones are unlocked. That's why you go through the whole process with the unlock codes.
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I dont understand what anybody cares if you register with HTC or not. I have insurance with Sprint and I have taken my phone to them to get repaired without any problems.
Hello fellow xda forum-goers
First, to start out, I will lay out a list of my previously owned phones...
Samsung Epic 4G -> Nexus S 4G -> HTC Evo 4G LTE
I have to say I am a bit confused when it comes to gaining root access on this particular phone. It is my first HTC branded phone and I have noticed that there are some changes/discussion with regards to rooting/flashing it.
There seems to be a commotion or skepticism with regards to achieving root with this phone, something about S-Off and your phone becoming tampered. What is the reason for not wanting to root your phone now and why? What exactly does S-Off and tampered status do?
Edit: Also what is with the whole RUU/Unlock debate? Am I voiding my warrenty or taking any risks with only rooting the phone? What cant I do with just a simple root?
Thanks again!
A little search a little read the sickies in the development section will do wonders
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A comparison
Rooting and S-Off are separate entities.
Rooting
Allows superuser permissions that you otherwise do not have. It presumably gets its name from having access to the 'root folders and files' where the phone's OS stuff is and where the devs alter things to make our phones neater! After rooting, you can tether, back up your app data using something like Titanium back up. SetCPU is a root-app that allows you to over and underclock the CPU, but I don't know how this app is compatible with the EVO LTE. There are other apps that are useful, but not really for me. Some taboo apps like Wifikill and droidsheep require root as well but have been pulled from the market, for obvious reasons. Rooting voids warranty, but you can unroot and no one will know.
S-Off
S-Off is a security flag. You can have root and be S-On. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but S-off = unlocked bootloader. And unlocked bootloader means that you can flash ROMs that have not been digitally signed by HTC (you can flash custom roms made by developers here). The only ROMs you can flash with S-On are RUUs, ROMs from HTC in this case. Also, having an unlocked bootloader allows you to install a custom recovery. A custom recovery is handy because you can create a Nandroid back up of your phone. Kind of like an image of a PC. If you mess your phone up, you can restore it to a mirror image of whenever you created the Nandroid. Also, custom recoveries are where you flash custom ROMs and MODs that developers make. Unlocking your bootloader/gaining S-Off voids your warranty. And with htc-dev, which lets you unlock the bootloader, HTC pretty much can keep track of who voids their warranty. If you wait a while, some Dev around here should whip up some way to S-off without HTC knowing. the Rewal method currently posted in the And-Development forum for EVO LTE might do this, I'm not sure.
So... in summary...
Rooting
Use cool apps
Tether
Super user permissions
S-Off/Unlocked bootloader
Custom recovery
Flash custom ROMS and MODS
Create Nandroid Backups
I think thats it. Someone correct any misinformation I gave.
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Oh, and as for the tampered questions, when you gain root access, htc put in some code that in the bootloader is says TAMPERED. But unrooting removes this.
Thanks again typhoonikan for the helpful understanding of the in's and out's of my phone!
So basically I can root/unroot without fear because I am able to revert the phone back if I had any problems.
The only risk is unlocking the bootloader via HTC because regardless of what you do, HTC will always know that your phone has been bootloader unlocked.
Basically the only reason we need S-off is to flash radios and also to be able to do that without it showing that our phones have been messed with/unlocked.
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but S-off = unlocked bootloader.
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You are wrong.
You can have an unlocked bootloader and still be S-On (this is exactly what HTCDev unlock does).
A rooted phone can run root-only apps and allows you to access the root file system.
An unlocked bootloader allows you to install a custom recovery where you can flash ROMs, but may or may not allow flashing of kernels and will usually not allow you to flash radios.
S-Off allows you to flash radios and other protected NAND partitions.
S-Off, to my knowledge as of 6/4/2012, has not yet been obtained on the EVO 4G LTE, though you can root and unlock the bootloader. But you really only need S-Off if you want to flash different radios.
In summary:
S-Off + Root + Unlocked bootloader (with custom recovery) allows you to do anything with the phone.
S-On + Root + Unlocked bootloader (with custom recovery) allows you to do anything EXCEPT flash radios.
S-off also allows you to change the splash screen
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wileout said:
S-off also allows you to change the splash screen
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And custom kernels
FattySparks said:
And custom kernels
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Actually on this device you can change kernels wit S-ON
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wileout said:
Actually on this device you can change kernels wit S-ON
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Yep, you can basically do everything with S-ON. Kernels, roms, boot screen, etc.
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Yep, you can basically do everything with S-ON. Kernels, roms, boot screen, etc.
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Pretty sure splash screens are no go's with S-ON. But i could be wrong since on this phone you can do kernels unlike the OG and the 3D
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Just a quick question, will using HTCDev unlock require me to wipe all my data?
filmaker said:
Just a quick question, will using HTCDev unlock require me to wipe all my data?
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Yes it will
I really wish we could get all this information in a sticky, seeing how the question gets repeated numerous times.
I would be more than happy to write up this information if need be, even make a few diagrams/charts for the visual learners like myself
I know there's not an S-Off yet for 1.22.651.3, but how about just a temporary root exploit.
It doesn't need to survive a reboot - I just want to be able to run Titanium Backup once.
I spend longer customizing home-screens and settings than anybody I know. MyBackupPro just doesn't cut it. I'm still putting things back for days.
Unfortunately the HTCDev unlock wipes everything.
I guess if I do go that route, I'd just have to do one last re-create of my layout and settings, but I just thought I'd ask.
Search for xHausx's deodexed ROM for the LTEVO build that includes the latest OTA and fixes. You can do this via TWRP (my personal favorite) or Clockwork Mod. Check out the ROM Manager app via Google Play. After flashing the ROM via TWRP, you will have r00t, and Titanium Backup is yours.
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Maybe I've missed something here...
To flash this (or anything), I have to use the HTCDev unlock first, which wipes my data, right?
Once I do that, I can flash or install anything I like, including Titanium Backup, regardless of having it already bundled in some ROM for me.
The point was to back up what I've got now using Titanium, before running the HTCDev unlock, like if there was a temp root exploit.
I know what you're saying; we had a temp root on the Evo 3D before it was fully rooted and unlocked. I don't remember seeing one for this phone anywhere though.
this guy is asking about root...not a rom??
HTC dev is currently the only root method if you took the ota.
We had a one click root that wouldn't unlock bootloder but that was patched.
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I am also interested in this. I have the newest version 651.3 and no root. I want Titanium Backup to run first before a wipe of data.
Also, i am not completely understanding something here. I read root and S-Off. I have read that S-off gives greater level of rights in the system, but do we need that to apply new ROMs? Not sure what the S-Off give us exactly. Can someone clear that up for me? Thanks, Chewboxa.
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I am also interested in this. I have the newest version 651.3 and no root. I want Titanium Backup to run first before a wipe of data.
Also, i am not completely understanding something here. I read root and S-Off. I have read that S-off gives greater level of rights in the system, but do we need that to apply new ROMs? Not sure what the S-Off give us exactly. Can someone clear that up for me? Thanks, Chewboxa.
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You need s off to flash radios and hboots but you already have the new ones. You can flash roms once you're rooted without soff
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If you can get S-OFF, you absolutely want it when it becomes available. HTC dev is getting more and more restrictive
So am I reading this correctly.. Even with the new ota if you use HTC Dev to root you can flash roms? I thought the ota prevented that? I knew pre ota you didn't need soff to flash roms but I thought with the ota that was gone...if not I guess I better get going and so this.. Could someone point me to the best path for this knowing I am stock with ota update. No root.. What is the story with google wallet.. Do I need to test before doing this.. I just happen to have the next 4 nights free to mess around so now is the time..
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If you have HTC dev unlocked, just use TWRP to flash xHausx's deodexed ROM that includes the latest OTA with r00t access. Simple!
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Yes, if you've used the HTC Dev unlock, you can certainly then flash a recovery or any ROM you like.
The catch is just that if you haven't yet used the unlock, it will wipe all your data when you do.
I was hoping for an exploit to let us run TB first - but from the looks of it, none of the previous exploits work anymore if you already have the OTA.
Does, the Dev unlock, void your warranty?
Yes, given your comment, a nandroid and perhaps using the App Backup and Restore app from the market is as good as you can get currently. It isn't Titanium, but it is a decent "Plan B."
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I can't do a nandroid because I still have the stock recovery.
Volume up or down while powering up still just boots the phone, not into recovery.
Or is there some other way?
Nope. The only way to root with the newest hboot is Htc dev. You will lose data. There's no way around it.
In the future don't accept otas
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I think if you take fast boot off than when you hold volumn down and p power you're phone will boot into that recovery menu
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Ah.
Disabling fast-boot did let me into the HBOOT, but when I select recovery, it just goes to a red triangle with an ! in it.
I have to hold down power at that point shut it down (or wait about 2 minutes apparently).
Oh well.
pbarrett said:
Ah.
Disabling fast-boot did let me into the HBOOT, but when I select recovery, it just goes to a red triangle with an ! in it.
I have to hold down power at that point shut it down (or wait about 2 minutes apparently).
Oh well.
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Yes, that's the stock recovery.
What I said above holds true.there's no way you can root at this point without losing data
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Twrp does not require root? What about goo manager? Would you recommend that? That is what my husband used on his 3d to do roms..
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Hi, guys -
Up til recently I was running Viper ICS after downgrading to hboot 1.4, and liked it. However, I had to revert everything to stock and take the OTA update in order to get Sprint's help to troubleshoot a text messaging issue.
Now my phone seems to be having digitizer issues (doesn't detect some touches, detects phantom touches, etc), so I'm going to exchange it at Best Buy next week.
Unfortunately, in the meantime, I'm heading off on a short-notice business trip this Sunday and I'd like to have the thing be rooted so that I can tether etc. while I'm out of town.
Every guide I find involves flashing various roms and almost all involve the HTC dev unlock which according to the HTC site, clears your data. I don't want to mess with all of that before a trip that I don't have much time to prepare for.
So, long story short, is there a way to JUST get root on my existing rom? I don't care about custom recoveries or any of that since I won't be flashing any custom ROM's before I swap the thing out.
If all else fails I can get by with a non-root tether app, but I've had awful luck getting those to work, so I'm hopeful someone will have a suggestion.
Thanks...
You unlocked with HTCDev and you see tutorial rooting on xda thread.
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The only way to root without losing data is to temp root. Unfortunately, the temp root methods are notoriously unstable on the 3d. In fact, when I tried to temp root, my phone bootlooped.
Edit: no temp root methods work anymore. See ramjet's post below.
There are no temp root methods that work on the Sprint ICS 2.89.651.2 build as HTC has patched the exploit that was being used in previous builds.
ClockworkMod Tether is a USB tether app that works pretty well without root.
ramjet73
Weird, I made a short post thanking you for the answer but apparently it never showed up.
Anyway, I kind of suspected that that might be the case, thanks for confirming it. I ended up just using CWM tether for non-root users and it was fine.
Thanks again.
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There are no temp root methods that work on the Sprint ICS 2.89.651.2 build as HTC has patched the exploit that was being used in previous builds.
ClockworkMod Tether is a USB tether app that works pretty well without root.
ramjet73
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