Has anyone tried Mhl? - Sony Tablet S

Just curious if Mhl will work for hdmi connections on this tablet. Please let me know if you've true this and if it works! Thank you
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cslingerland said:
Just curious if Mhl will work for hdmi connections on this tablet. Please let me know if you've true this and if it works! Thank you
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Haven't tried myself (don't have an adapter) but others on the forum have tried and there doesn't appear to be any MHL capability at all. Sony would prefer you use DLNA to stream your content, so the omission of MHL makes sense.
It's an irritating absence, but we can't have everything

agc93 said:
Haven't tried myself (don't have an adapter) but others on the forum have tried and there doesn't appear to be any MHL capability at all. Sony would prefer you use DLNA to stream your content, so the omission of MHL makes sense.
It's an irritating absence, but we can't have everything
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Yeah including an unlocked bootloader...
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cslingerland said:
Yeah including an unlocked bootloader...
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Yeah, but expecting that was dreaming pretty high. Sony's most innovative hardware has always been their most protected and locked down for multitude of reasons. If you need a highly extensible and customisable technology, skip the Sony offerings.

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Micro usb at the bottom?

Saw some detailed photos of the top of the device and only mini jack port was visible.
I'm not sure though.
Any intel on this one?
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Yep, its at the bottom, there are some hardware tour hands-on vids on youTube from MWC that confirm it (possibly the GSMarena write up mentions it too).
Great, vertical desktop dock is now possible as well as more convenient car chargers.
Another reason to buy it
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omg every second youtube video shows the device in every angle.... and 80% of the MWC videos have the device charging...
Just so you know, this is actually a MHL port. What this does is it can send data as well as video and audio, so it can be used as a micro USB but also as an HDMI.
Pretty nifty, huh?
apwhitelaw said:
Just so you know, this is actually a MHL port. What this does is it can send data as well as video and audio, so it can be used as a micro USB but also as an HDMI.
Pretty nifty, huh?
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1080i output, no charging with the current devices though.
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1080i output, no charging with the current devices though.
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I assume it's 1080p output, it would be strange if it's limited to 1080i.
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1080i output, no charging with the current devices though.
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Slight correction: no charging from current TVs unless you have a dongle, in which case it will charge and playback on all current HDMI-input capable televisions.
According to a MHL preview video on youtube, it will playback the same as any other HDMI port. So if the phone supports 1080p playback, it will send that output to your tv through MHL port.
I have used phones that had it on the top (Captivate) Left (Atrix) and bottom (Nexus)
I like it the most on the bottom. The Atrix is almost unusable while charging in portrait.
FLAC Vest said:
I have used phones that had it on the top (Captivate) Left (Atrix) and bottom (Nexus)
I like it the most on the bottom. The Atrix is almost unusable while charging in portrait.
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Second that
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Second that
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I actually liked it with my Motorola Milestone... Some apps suck in landscape though, I give you guys that.
lets just hope it doesnt require charging daily
virussnake said:
lets just hope it doesnt require charging daily
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The GOAL is a full day on one charge.
You want the battery to last a week? Buy a dumbphone.
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Tv out, how does it work?

Just as the post says how does it work, I have the feature on my Rom and I went to Best Buy and bought their $50 dollar cable but I got nothing on my TV's. I think I got audio once but no picture so other than plugging the cable into the phone and into the tv and turning it to the right input what else us there because I did all of that?
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bignibb said:
Just as the post says how does it work, I have the feature on my Rom and I went to Best Buy and bought their $50 dollar cable but I got nothing on my TV's. I think I got audio once but no picture so other than plugging the cable into the phone and into the tv and turning it to the right input what else us there because I did all of that?
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Has to also be plugged into the wall charger.
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$50 cable? What cable did you buy??
Did u buy a mhl cable?
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Tv out
Ya you do need to connect the wall charger, but for some reason does anyone know why it doesn't actually charge my phone? While using it my power drains very slowly.
The mhl adapter and phone is being charged at the same time. It's a weak charge to begin with when you aren't displaying anything. Just have to deal with it.
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I knew this was going to happen, I am not talking about mhl's, I know how that works. I'm talking about the function where you can use the headphone port to use a RCA type cable to play or send images and or videos to your tv.
Does any one know how this function works?
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The EVO 3D does not support that feature.
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The EVO 3D does not support that feature.
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This... 10char
I guess you guys haven't been in the Dev forums to see that this feature is supposedly baked into some if themes Roms, check it out yourself..... Then please get back to me.
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thats cool..will you tell me which rom actually has that feature.. I wanna try it
I would love to know this too...I asked before and got nowhere.
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bignibb said:
I guess you guys haven't been in the Dev forums to see that this feature is supposedly baked into some if themes Roms, check it out yourself..... Then please get back to me.
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I'm pretty sure that even though the ROM you're on may support it that this phone isn't capable of it. I've never heard of anyone getting that to work. Let us know if you do figure it out though. I just don't think that the headphone jack can output video. It only does audio. I believe its a hardware limitation.
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Olympus trinity 3D beatless has it and I asked how it works but have not gotten an answer.
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You know that some roms are ported from other phones. Some settings will make its way over. There might be a setting for this, but from what I have been told is that the hardware will never support it.
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gk1984 said:
The mhl adapter and phone is being charged at the same time. It's a weak charge to begin with when you aren't displaying anything. Just have to deal with it.
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This. What i do also is turn my screen brightness all the way down and it helps greatly to last longer while doing hdmi stuff
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EVO 3D does not do this. Some put it into ROMs and said it worked, but no one has actually done it. This is hardware limitation. Anyway, use MHL it'll do HD and Dolby.
hi the first think sorry for my english
i saw in ebay .. the micro usb converter to hdmi its work for samsug galaxy s2 ... htc evo 3d... htc sensation ... its a small converter from the micro usb to hdmi .... i payed one in ebay ... and im waiting for that ... if that work i will write again here
write this in google and you will see with picture ...
micro usb to hdmi
Evo 3d uses mhl. I didnt think hdmi would work...
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All the micro usb to HDMI i saw after a quick search were indeed MHL adapters. If you get a MHL, one end is male micro usb plug and the other is male HDMI plug.

Mhl compatible?

I was wondering if this tablet will work with an Mhl adapter to be hooked up to a tv? Any help is appreciated
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cslingerland said:
I was wondering if this tablet will work with an Mhl adapter to be hooked up to a tv? Any help is appreciated
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No, there is no HDMI support for that
If you think that its not suppose to be for devices without a HDMI port then thats incorrect
The HTC EVO 3D has HDMI support but no HDMI port
Strange but yeah, sometimes the unexpected is expected.
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Kinda confused by that post... Sorry. But Yeah the exp has hdmi support and so do a few other phones like the rezound... They require an Mhl adapter to be used for hdmi. I was just wondering if the same applies to this tablet
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cslingerland said:
I was wondering if this tablet will work with an Mhl adapter to be hooked up to a tv? Any help is appreciated
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The Sony Tablet S or P does not support MHL.
so does this mean there's no capabilities for an external display on the sony tablet s??
[email protected] said:
so does this mean there's no capabilities for an external display on the sony tablet s??
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Yes.
Cat McGowan said:
Yes.
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Wait, what if someone can place such kernel modules onto the Sony Tablet S?
Will it work?
Or is it something to do with hardware?
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so does this mean there's no capabilities for an external display on the sony tablet s??
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If your display/TV has DLNA capabilities, it works like a charm.
If it doesn't, you can add to your TV something like DLNA-enabled Blu Ray player or Android stick.
Bingo, problem solved. External display works just fine.
Sorry to reply to this old threat, but I was searching gsmarena specs, and in sony tablet S 3G it says "TV out via MHL", but not for the non-3G version. I had the impression that besides the cellular chip there were no other differences..
Did something change with ICS update?
Cause I'm ready to get an MHL adaptor as I actually need HDMI out.
mariosx said:
Sorry to reply to this old threat, but I was searching gsmarena specs, and in sony tablet S 3G it says "TV out via MHL", but not for the non-3G version. I had the impression that besides the cellular chip there were no other differences..
Did something change with ICS update?
Cause I'm ready to get an MHL adaptor as I actually need HDMI out.
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The only difference between the 3G variant and the WiFi variant is that the 3G version has an add in modem which plugs into a socket (If I'm not mixing up devices), and firmware. There is no MHL support.
lopezk38 said:
The only difference between the 3G variant and the WiFi variant is that the 3G version has an add in modem which plugs into a socket (If I'm not mixing up devices), and firmware. There is no MHL support.
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I hear you, I agree with you, but here it says
TV-out (via MHL A/V link)
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and that's why I'm wondering if something changed or the 3G model indeed has something different
mariosx said:
I hear you, I agree with you, but here it says
"TV-out (via MHL A/V link)"
and that's why I'm wondering if something changed or the 3G model indeed has something different
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That specification is erroneous. The Sony Tablet S does not support MHL.

Turning my photon into a nexus Q

Ok so I've got my deactivated Photon and I'm repurposing the device as an Android media player. I'm basically trying to make it a nexus Q/Google TV like device. Looking for suggestions on how to best achieve this. I would like to be able to control the device from my phone (Note 2) as the nexus Q allows you to modify it's music queue.
Some background: phone is unlocked, I'm using an HD dock to connect to my TV or stereo.
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schale01 said:
Ok so I've got my deactivated Photon and I'm repurposing the device as an Android media player. I'm basically trying to make it a nexus Q/Google TV like device. Looking for suggestions on how to best achieve this. I would like to be able to control the device from my phone (Note 2) as the nexus Q allows you to modify it's music queue.
Some background: phone is unlocked, I'm using an HD dock to connect to my TV or stereo.
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Buy an HDMI Cable & download an airplay server app from the market (the is one like that)
and an AIrplay Client
Hdmi out on my photon always looked terribly pixelly. I almost could not stand it but mine is locked so maybe custom roms and kernels fix that issue.
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Hdmi out on my photon always looked terribly pixelly. I almost could not stand it but mine is locked so maybe custom roms and kernels fix that issue.
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Well not for me im using a 21" screen with HDMI out thats work pretty well
LightingZ said:
Well not for me im using a 21" screen with HDMI out thats work pretty well
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Ah yes i forgot to mention my 40 inch tv
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Thinking of doing this on a 32" bedroom TV. How are you all controlling it, do you just set up whatever video you want and then plunk it into the dock, or do you have a wireless keyboard/mouse?
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thinking of doing this on a 32" bedroom tv. How are you all controlling it, do you just set up whatever video you want and then plunk it into the dock, or do you have a wireless keyboard/mouse?
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i am using ps3 controller for this =]
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Thinking of doing this on a 32" bedroom TV. How are you all controlling it, do you just set up whatever video you want and then plunk it into the dock, or do you have a wireless keyboard/mouse?
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Well that's one of the things I'm trying to figure out. If I can get it to behave like the Nexus Q then I could control it from any Android device. Unfortunately I have yet to figure out how to accomplish this.
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Miracast added

with 4.3 miracast has been added to the nexus 10, it can be found it settings under display, wireless display
Well that came out of nowhere...Nice! :victory:
tigger2014 said:
with 4.3 miracast has been added to the nexus 10, it can be found it settings under display, wireless display
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This will only matter to me if the chromecast supports it, and they never said it did.
This is awesome, now I just need to get a miracast compatible receiving device...
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Really?
That would be awesome!!
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are there any cheap miracast receivers out there?
Is there a reason I'd use miracast over chromecast since I just bought one of those?
Sorry but what exactly is miracast?
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abdel12345 said:
Sorry but what exactly is miracast?
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Wireless display.
abdel12345 said:
Sorry but what exactly is miracast?
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It's a wireless display technology, so you can broadcast video from your device to another display over WiFi.
crash822 said:
Wireless display.
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It's a wireless display technology, so you can broadcast video from your device to another display over WiFi.
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OK that's cool thanks so would this work with a computer or laptop or does it need a certain device from Google? As I see some ofmyounare saying you need a miracast enabled device to use it with.
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abdel12345 said:
OK that's cool thanks so would this work with a computer or laptop or does it need a certain device from Google? As I see some ofmyounare saying you need a miracast enabled device to use it with.
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Like you said, has to be a miracast enabled device. I don't know of any computer program to enable it. I believe the devices are mostly smart tv and some blu-ray players. I'm hoping the new chromecast will support it.
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Like you said, has to be a miracast enabled device. I don't know of any computer program to enable it. I believe the devices are mostly smart tv and some blu-ray players. I'm hoping the new chromecast will support it.
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OK thanks. I guess this is useless for me as I don't have a smart TV but maybe it will come in handy later or at a friends house
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OK thanks. I guess this is useless for me as I don't have a smart TV but maybe it will come in handy later or at a friends house
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If the chromecast device works you'll have a smart tv for $35 assuming you live in the US. I don't think it is available outside of the us at the moment. The device is pretty small, around the size of a large USB thumb drive judging from the pictures and plugs into hdmi.
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If the chromecast device works you'll have a smart tv for $35 assuming you live in the US. I don't think it is available outside of the us at the moment. The device is pretty small, around the size of a large USB thumb drive judging from the pictures and plugs into hdmi.
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Awesome I do love in the us though I'm currently out of the country but I'll be back in 1 month. I'll have to look up this chrome cast. So you just plug it in your TV and it uses the TV as a monitor and sort of makes it a smart TV? Well if I understood right that's sweet especially for only 35 dollars.
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http://www.theverge.com/2013/7/24/4552204/google-reveals-chromecast-tv-streaming Some of the comments suggest it doesn't support miracast which is lame.
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http://www.theverge.com/2013/7/24/4552204/google-reveals-chromecast-tv-streaming Some of the comments suggest it doesn't support miracast which is lame.
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Well it still looks cool and I'm going to check it out. You can always use Google remote and that is pretty similar to miracast I think
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Can anyone else confirm?
What about lag and frame drops?
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Can anyone else confirm?
What about lag and frame drops?
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They have added Miracast but the performance isn't great on my PTV3000. However, my PTV3000 is pretty terrible so it could easily be of no fault of the Nexus 10.
I thought I noticed a new option but I couldn't remember if it was there the whole time
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http://www.theverge.com/2013/7/24/4552204/google-reveals-chromecast-tv-streaming Some of the comments suggest it doesn't support miracast which is lame.
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Chromecast does not support Miracast.
And given that it's only in the 2.4ghz range only, that's probably a good thing. In most of my use cases, you probably wouldn't want to use it without 5ghz.
It's designed a little differently though - instead of going from the internet, through the device, to your monitor/TV, Chromecast takes the content directly from the internet using your phone more like a remote. The quality of the stream should be much better.
But of course you lose the ability to mirror the screen of your device on your monitor/TV.
I prefer the better quality stream for most wireless streaming and will use my HDMI cable when I need a mirror as the performance was better with that anyway.

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