I have just bought my Lapdock & found the stock Webtop slow.
Can anyone suggest me a good webtop ? which is fast ! Atleast for normal usage. (say i will run only 1 program at a time)
Ubuntop
arafat_mw said:
I have just bought my Lapdock & found the stock Webtop slow.
Can anyone suggest me a good webtop ? which is fast ! Atleast for normal usage. (say i will run only 1 program at a time)
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Hi.
I use this version, not only does it seem to be more responsive, but it also unlocks a full Ubuntu Jaunty distibution.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1726916
It take some steps. But well worth it in the end.
Regards,
Seth
sjerome1 said:
Hi.
I use this version, not only does it seem to be more responsive, but it also unlocks a full Ubuntu Jaunty distibution.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1726916
It take some steps. But well worth it in the end.
Regards,
Seth
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I am using it now as well..But it's not so snappy like a regular netbook..is it possible to make it more speedy ? or is it because of my Slow SDCARD ? Class 10 makes any difference ?
Hi.
I use Ubuntop 1.1.0 too, and with Nottachtrix and Faux kernel, it's fast enough for normal use.
Even faster with Faux Kernel 1.45GHz, but high battery drain
If you want it any faster, you'll have to overclock your phone. Faux's 1.45 makes it run pretty good, but in turn drains the battery faster. Remember, this is still a phone.
Definitely Ubuntop!
I have attached a screen of the multitasking i once had on my lapdock. Ubuntop is a fantastic mod, it allows use of synaptic and other linux applications without the need to install all of the various mods to do it. It also removes some of the bloat from the webtop, which makes it run faster.
Another notable feature is the ability to mount an NTFS formatted drive, I have connected my 250gb external drive with an NTFS and a FAT partition on it and it could see and read/write both partitions.
It also has two different themes, UbuntopLX and Webtop+
And an install script for the basic programs that most people want. It is a huge improvement over the stock experience.
brh0003 said:
I have attached a screen of the multitasking i once had on my lapdock. Ubuntop is a fantastic mod, it allows use of synaptic and other linux applications without the need to install all of the various mods to do it. It also removes some of the bloat from the webtop, which makes it run faster.
Another notable feature is the ability to mount an NTFS formatted drive, I have connected my 250gb external drive with an NTFS and a FAT partition on it and it could see and read/write both partitions.
It also has two different themes, UbuntopLX and Webtop+
And an install script for the basic programs that most people want. It is a huge improvement over the stock experience.
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yeah I have used it as well with Max Blur 2 but gives a low memory problem when I try to do Multi Tasking.. any way to solve it ?
rusreid said:
If you want it any faster, you'll have to overclock your phone. Faux's 1.45 makes it run pretty good, but in turn drains the battery faster. Remember, this is still a phone.
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Is it possible to underclock the Phone when using it Normally (Undocked from lapock) & then overclock it manually when docking to the lapdock.. & what are the constrains ? I mean my Atrix heats up very quickly on stock kernel.. will it be a problem to run the webtop @1.45 GHZ ? esp. the heat generation ?
arafat_mw said:
yeah I have used it as well with Max Blur 2 but gives a low memory problem when I try to do Multi Tasking.. any way to solve it ?
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I use system tuner to limit memory usage, auto kill set to aggressive. It occasionally still tells me im low on memory, but you just have to close apps when this happens.
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brh0003 said:
I have attached a screen of the multitasking i once had on my lapdock. Ubuntop is a fantastic mod, it allows use of synaptic and other linux applications without the need to install all of the various mods to do it. It also removes some of the bloat from the webtop, which makes it run faster.
Another notable feature is the ability to mount an NTFS formatted drive, I have connected my 250gb external drive with an NTFS and a FAT partition on it and it could see and read/write both partitions.
It also has two different themes, UbuntopLX and Webtop+
And an install script for the basic programs that most people want. It is a huge improvement over the stock experience.
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HOw is it that you managed to install anything at all on the Ubuntop mod? All it ever did was throw errors at me about... not having GNOME or something, about missing keys (which I tried to remedy) and in the end, the WiFi on the webtop commit suicide before I could fix anything. Now, the WiFi works in mobile mode (even in the mobile window it works) but FireFox refuses to connect. So now I can't install anything from online. And additionally, it constantly complains about not having permission to DO anything, when I KNOW I'm rooted. Super user (su, as it is named) is in /bin and everything. What gives?
If it helps, I'm running Nottachtrix 1.3.1 and used webtop2sd 1.1.0
Because, right now, your phone sounds preeetty sweet. A functional webtop would be the perfect thing for school work.
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Is Autokiller Memory Optimizer still relevent? I first learned of it in KaosFroyo v36? I think?
I realize it is not a "killer" the same way most task killers are, and it just adjust the limits of the actual systems ram limits. I am familiar with the way linux handles memory but with newer roms and newer versions of cyanogen coming has anyone noticed a difference with or without it? I will freeze it tonight and see if I notice anything.
I quit using it when I switched to Gingerbread. Don't need it. With Froyo I felt it was necessary.
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I still use it. Why? Because even with gingerbread there's an obvious difference in available memory with and without it. My memory improves on average 20mb with it vs without it (just random checking it). now I realize that can hurt or help (having something already running in the background serves its purpose for quick access. too much stuff running you used and are NOT going to access anytime soon hurts). overall I havent noticed it hurting performance/speed at all and I'd rather have the free space available for operating apps so I use it. less things running even in background should at least theorically help battery life a little. I dont think its NEEDED by any means but the way I bang app after app it works for me.
I still use it because I've used it since KaosFroyo, and so on the move to GSB I couldn't help but continue to use it. Sometimes it really does help, and sometimes it doesn't make a difference.
I've uninstalled it two days ago. Haven't noticed a difference at all. I've been using GingerTazz12. cm7/2.3 has better built in memory management?
winchendonsprings said:
I've uninstalled it two days ago. Haven't noticed a difference at all. I've been using GingerTazz12. cm7/2.3 has better built in memory management?
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2.2 definitely has better mem management over 2.1, and 2.3 has even better over 2.2.
Memory Managers are a placebo to me. Why not just let your phone manage things on its own? It's not based on Windows where RAM is key in performance, it just simply knocks out the things you haven't used in a while to give it more room for the next program.
It will really effect your "multitasking" ie switching between apps, because there will be memory left over, just not for the app you just finished using
willwgp said:
Memory Managers are a placebo to me. Why not just let your phone manage things on its own? It's not based on Windows where RAM is key in performance, it just simply knocks out the things you haven't used in a while to give it more room for the next program.
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The thing is, some of those background apps still running could be poorly optimized and still take CPU and not just RAM. You could be using an app and be good on memory, but you could have some background app taking resources and CPU cycles and possibly slowing your phone down in that manner, as well as draining your battery a bit more than usual.
i havent used it at all and im running gtood gsb2.0
I haven't used any memory optimizer/task killer since the first time I tried xtrSENSE, probably last July. zach.xtr includes scripts for GScript to change Android's built in memory manager settings, although I've since stopped changing any ROMs defaults as far as that's concerned.
I decided to not install any mem managers, autokiller & startup auditor, when I moved to GSB from xtrROM. At this point I feel I don't need autokiller at all. Startup Auditor maybe, but the few that do startup on their own are not causing issues. To me AK has become an option, NOT a necessity!
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I successfully ran V6 SUPERCHARGER using the terminal emulator in Cm7. Had to switch to Hackers keyboard to type the command sh V6* which starts the script from the root of sd card. I used the first v6 script posted and was very conservative to avoid any boot loops. i am benchmarking system and running some favorite apps to see if it is a winner or not. So far system booting faster and seems real snappy! There is a CM7 and CM9 version but I would DEFINITELY have a backup sd card ready and know your way in ADB in case something goes wrong. Remember to eject/ reinsert your card if you cant access your sd.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1513187
No problems
So far no problems. Gui is faster, internet is faster, games and apps load faster. Very good hack.
Videos
BE WARNED! it seems the sacrifice you make for a faster deaktop is slightly broken Ducati hardware acceleration. I am not sure if it is just an issue with .flv,s or affects other media types. The Youtube videos sometimes refuse ro play in HD but will play in HD if you dwselect HD with an occasional hickup. Not sure if it is the way this rom accesses Ducati and the way this script modifies memory management.
Interesting. Ill take a look at the source and see if theres any special tweaks to be made.
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Thank you. It would br a good find for our community and would put us on par with the other Xda developer sites.
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As the OP contains no development, this should be in the General section​
It uses fairly moderate values for the tweaks, I can verify that not only does it not brick the tablet, but the tweaks it can apply actually work. I've noticed about a 20% improvement in memory management, along with i/o improvements (which is weird, though I assume it's due to the memory tweaks and overall improved system response).
On the flip side, it has by far the most annoying, frustrating attempt at a text UI that I've ever encountered, using literally about a hundred separate sleep functions. Still, cool find.
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Thanks. I have read where the Devs are just incorporating the memory tweaks into the rom directly.
i am running Rocko rom 3.0 and webtop+ 1.3 but it's done this ever since new and stock.
if i try to load a web page that has a decent amount off pictures firefox will close. now since going to rocko and webtop+ it will lock up my phone all together... even if i unplug the phone from the hddmi cale i will have to do a battery pull to get it to work again.
i thought maybe there wasn't enough free space in .osh to cache all the photos so i moved webtop to sd (8gb) and it still does the same thing. anyone have any idea what i can do to fix this?
edit: for reference this is a page that will cause my problem: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=695011&page=18
Wow! The initial load of that page eats over 400MB of RAM on a regular PC. I had to set up a 500MB dedicated cache for Firefox to even get it to load in webtop. Webtop caches Firefox in RAM so wt2sd wouldn't fix it.
I could create a custom preference file with a massive dedicated disk cache for you of instruct you how to do it. The drawback is that webtop Firefox will run slower and be doing a lot of writes to some sort of flash memory. This may cause premature failure of either the internal memory or the SDCard depending on where the cache is put.
i pretty much figured that is what the problem was. thanks for the offer to help but i couldn't imagine webtop being slower than it already is. i was hoping to just carry this phone and my mini bluetooth keyboard on a upcoming trip but i guess i'll need a net book or just take the time to post from my phone.
Hello fellows, anyone is using swap2cache script to improve your SK17 perfomance. Would you recommend using it?
Thanks in advance.
Considered all that's out there about how andorid manages ram i have never really seen the point.
Android will open processes and activities for as much free ram as it has, and when you need to run something it just closes all useless activities and cached programs if necessary. Enebling swap2cache will just give your device more space to occupy with "junk" which will be sitting there eating up on battery life and performance...In my personal experience i find it to be more useful on older devices which had limited ram, 512 is enough to run most stuf out there (there's a discussion on android genral about makin 2gb which concludes that for now it's quite useless..) plus it's only adding 64mb extra...it's not going to be that big a change.
I tested it personally, and my rom (also using miui) without swap2cache usually has 400-420mb of used space before doing a system dump, with swap 2cache enabled it was always full at max...
Not to mention sdcard life.... constant swapping on it, reduces lifespan obviously.
Also it's very much slower than system memory.
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Hi Guys, thanks for the info I will try for myself and report it back.
Just to clarify swap2cache works in the internal partition /cache not in /sdcard so it is supposed to be faster.
Yeah you are right it works in the system partition but you may want to take a look at swap2zram as it works in the ram itself! Faster than system memory!
hit thanks if I've helped!
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jucares said:
Hi Guys, thanks for the info I will try for myself and report it back.
Just to clarify swap2cache works in the internal partition /cache not in /sdcard so it is supposed to be faster.
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LoL! my bad. I wasn't even reading right. I was automatically thinkin' it was swap2sd -.-
EDiT:
Xkernel uses ZRAM by default...
Here is my experience, apparently this extra 64 mb only make a difference when you play heavy games like Asphalt 7, N64 emulator, Nova, etc.
Because without swap2cache when I played this games with the sixaxis controller app this one always closes in the middle of the game. However with swap2cache enabled I can play this games with the sixaxis app without problem :laugh:
Hope you find this information useful, if anyone is interested I'm attaching the script:
- Uncompress it and copy it in /etc/init.d/
- Set 777 permissions to script.
- reboot.
Hi people!
i've found this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2145133
tested it on my device and work fine with CM 10.1
waithing for the official release
How did you manage to make it work?.. i can update it with the cwm and neither the manual way.. with terminal it says not writable (but it is!)
uc370 said:
How did you manage to make it work?.. i can update it with the cwm and neither the manual way.. with terminal it says not writable (but it is!)
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Try to change permissions using root explorer or es file manager
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Permision were changed.. terminal still says only red file
uc370 said:
Permision were changed.. terminal still says only red file
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I don't know why terminal see only read but if you do cat /proc/swaps you will see how swaps are working
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And what should it look like?.. q tendria q salir.. aprox 51000 50000 -1
vince686 said:
Hi people!
i've found this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2145133
tested it on my device and work fine with CM 10.1
waithing for the official release
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I've been trying this patch (manually, not the complete script), but I have found this actually slows down the folio. There is a reason why flash-based devices don't have a swap. When writing large blocks to swap, the system will stutter heavily. The slow flash disk of the folio will not help in this. My test shows it is actually slowing down quite a bit.
Even with the low RAM of the folio, it is still faster to just start/restart an app than to swap it away in a swapfile (resulting in 1secs of stutter) and then getting it back anyway from disk.
ZRAM is something similar. Tough here I can understand some improved use cases, but:
- you take away precious RAM
- then you swap out programs and compress them (uses a lot of CPU)
- if you swap the program in again, you need to decompress. Granted, the decompress might be a little faster than restarting the app.
- because of the lower useable memory, programs do have an higher chance than before to be compressed (vs killed without ZRAM), so decompression (with ZRAM) statistically will happen more than restarting (without ZRAM), making the gains of ZRAM point 3 less.
- I don't think this works correctly with huge processes (e.g. browser), and will just see that less RAM is available, and will not swap out parts because the whole memory region is still in use (best case, it will continuously swap in & out parts, making it again slower)
I'm not completely trowing out ZRAM, as it is still beneficial with some workload combinations (I think a large collection of small apps is the most optimal case)