this may seem to be a dumb question but i dont know how
spaghettiknight said:
this may seem to be a dumb question but i dont know how
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Use this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1737123
Be sure to read carefully and make sure you understand the risks.
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Thank you premo I will take a look at it when I get good signal
why do you need security off besides loading raios from bootladers instead of recoverys
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Use this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1737123
Be sure to read carefully and make sure you understand the risks.
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This does't work for 1.15 hboot correct? Or did i miss something
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why do you need security off besides loading raios from bootladers instead of recoverys
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It depends on which version of hboot you're using. If you're on 1.12, the only thing you can't do with S-ON is flash firmware (except radios). On 1.15, HTC made S-ON more secure by preventing you from flashing anything but recoveries and roms...some have been successful in flashing kernels but it requires flashing an entire boot image through the bootloader. There isn't currently a method for obtaining S-OFF if you're already on 1.15, but the devs are working on it.
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You don't take OTA's period
Rxpert said:
You don't take OTA's period
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Absolutely...the real problem is for those that are getting phones that shipped with the latest OTA already pre loaded. I've heard some talk of loading older RUUs in order to downgrade and then turn S-OFF but I think there are some caveats. Do you know if that's possible?
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Absolutely...the real problem is for those that are getting phones that shipped with the latest OTA already pre loaded. I've heard some talk of loading older RUUs in order to downgrade and then turn S-OFF but I think there are some caveats. Do you know if that's possible?
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I am currently on hboot 1.12 is there any large reason for me to update and if so how do I do it
spaghettiknight said:
I am currently on hboot 1.12 is there any large reason for me to update and if so how do I do it
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No, you dont want the new H-boot
If your haven't ran lazypanda to get S-off do it while you still can
Rxpert said:
No, you dont want the new H-boot
If your haven't ran lazypanda to get S-off do it while you still can
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What do u mean do it while I still can does it automatically update when flashing newer roms
No, just when you take the ota update. Lazzypanda s-off is easy w/ very little risk you will be glad you did it.
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Yesterday I got my replacement phone (New one not refurb) and noticed my software version is 1.13.651.1
It looks like the latest version!
Radio version: 1.02.12.0427
PRI version: 2.28_003
gutrrob said:
Yesterday I got my replacement phone (New one not refurb) and noticed my software version is 1.13.651.1
It looks like the latest version!
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1.13.651.1 is the stock ROM that was released with the phone. Consider yourself lucky if you want to root and unlock, because this version you can root, unlock and S-OFF. Don't take the OTA update if you want to root, unlock and S-OFF.
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1.13.651.1 is the stock ROM that was released with the phone. Consider yourself lucky if you want to root and unlock, because this version you can root, unlock and S-OFF. Don't take the OTA update if you want to root, unlock and S-OFF.
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I thought the stock Rom was: 1.22.651.1
gutrrob said:
I thought the stock Rom was: 1.22.651.1
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That the one that just ame out 2 weeks ago. He right. If u wanna root without ease, run your S-Off now, then flash the firmware. Or else u won't be able to S-Off if u accept the update.
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I thought the stock Rom was: 1.22.651.1
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Lower number means earlier build
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sn0b0ard said:
1.13.651.1 is the stock ROM that was released with the phone. Consider yourself lucky if you want to root and unlock, because this version you can root, unlock and S-OFF. Don't take the OTA update if you want to root, unlock and S-OFF.
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So the new one can't root, unlock and S-Off yet?
I thought it was possible. Hmm.. maybe I gotta read more.
(Reason why I'm curious is because I want to return my phone for a new one. The 3G on my phone SUUUUUUCKS compared to my brothers. But now yo're giving me things to worry about. =[ )
arozer said:
So the new one can't root, unlock and S-Off yet?
I thought it was possible. Hmm.. maybe I gotta read more.
(Reason why I'm curious is because I want to return my phone for a new one. The 3G on my phone SUUUUUUCKS compared to my brothers. But now yo're giving me things to worry about. =[ )
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If I am not mistaken you can still unlock through htc and root but you won't be able to get s-off.
It is an early build! I got the 1.22.651.3 notification...I declined (Root baby)
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If I am not mistaken you can still unlock through htc and root but you won't be able to get s-off.
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In that case, I'm not so worried about it.
I don't need S-OFF on this phone anyway, as you can flash Kernel even with S-ON on this phone.
Thank you friend.
http://support.sprint.com/support/a..._box=evo 4g lte update&id16=evo 4g lte update
That is the official updates for the phone from sprints website, but just found out reading through here to not update to the latest if you want to s-off.
arozer said:
In that case, I'm not so worried about it.
I don't need S-OFF on this phone anyway, as you can flash Kernel even with S-ON on this phone.
Thank you friend.
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I don't think this is true anymore - I'm pretty sure the new hboot in the update prevents flashing kernels when s-on htc unlocked.
I have Hboot 1.15, Fresh EVO OS. And used the Regaw Autoroot following the OTA Update. I heard you can do this using fastboot or HTCdev, but I'm not sure how to do this... And could not find any answers (My concern is that the new FRESH updates use the new radios, and I updated to it, but can't flash the new radios)
If this has already been answered I apologize, but I couldn't find it.
Thank you for the help!
Dude there's threads all over the forum about this issue. Just spend 2minutes looking and you'll be all set
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You can't update radios if you are s-on hboot 1.15. Your only option to update the radios is to relock and take the ota or install the new ruu. Then unlock again, install twrp, and then install your favorite rom. As many will state, never take the ota because you may loose ability to get s-off in the future. This may be true, but there is no s-off solution for your hboot anyway so you might as well bite the bullet now and live in the present instead of waiting for something that may never happen in the future.
Interesting. All right Thanks for your help. And as for there being threads "all over" I was getting conflicting reports, since I saw on one page where it was possible to flash using HTCdev with S-on, but there was no link or instructions given.
To address ur main concern, there is no need to update your radios. If you want to run a rom that is based off the latest update all u need to do is make sure your kernel matches the kernel in the rom. You can update your kernel with Flash img GUI, found in the app store. Just download the rom u want open flash img GUI select the rom and choose to flash kernel img. Once complete, wipe and flash rom. Njoy!
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To address ur main concern, there is no need to update your radios. If you want to run a rom that is based off the latest update all u need to do is make sure your kernel matches the kernel in the rom. You can update your kernel with Flash img GUI, found in the app store. Just download the rom u want open flash img GUI select the rom and choose to flash kernel img. Once complete, wipe and flash rom. Njoy!
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I would HIGHLY suggest against flash gui if you haven't properly learned to fast boot flash it
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Rxpert said:
I would HIGHLY suggest against flash gui if you haven't properly learned to fast boot flash it
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Then how do i proceed to relock my bootloader if I am 1.5 so i can receive the OTA?
Fastboot OEM lock
This stuff is in my guide, I wish more people would actually read it lol
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Interesting. All right Thanks for your help. And as for there being threads "all over" I was getting conflicting reports, since I saw on one page where it was possible to flash using HTCdev with S-on, but there was no link or instructions given.
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Yup. Sorry about my response. I reread it and it does sound a harsh to me now. Anyways you got the info you need so good luck with your phone and sorry again
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Fastboot OEM lock
This stuff is in my guide, I wish more people would actually read it lol
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LOL - I've never seen you guide before, I will definetly open it print it/ and read it. It is appreciated.:highfive::good:
I'd also suggest against taking the ota, but that's just me.
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S-on hboot 1.12
Ok, so I'm rooted, s-on with hboot 1.12. I was able to do the firmware update and update the radios. I've read like crazy and I'm not seeing anywhere I can update the PRI without s-off. Is this correct? One thread said I can flash anything since I'm hboot 1.12 so I'm confused.
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Ok, so I'm rooted, s-on with hboot 1.12. I was able to do the firmware update and update the radios. I've read like crazy and I'm not seeing anywhere I can update the PRI without s-off. Is this correct? One thread said I can flash anything since I'm hboot 1.12 so I'm confused.
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If you're on hboot 1.12, I suggest using lazypanda to get s-off right away before doing anything else.
"We're coming from a pure power source"
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If you're on hboot 1.12, I suggest using lazypanda to get s-off right away before doing anything else.
"We're coming from a pure power source"
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I'm a little bit hesitant to do that since I've read it can go crazy wrong and I'm not as savvy with the phones as the folks on the forums. Do I have to though in order to update my PRI?
I'm not sure, I've been s-off since I got the phone.
"We're coming from a pure power source"
I am S-ON HBoot 1.15. Is it possible to flash HTC Stock recovery, go to stock rooted rom, use OTA root Keeper and take the new OTA?
You don't need OTA root keeper because your going to have to do HTC dev to unlock the device again.
With that being said I wouldnt recommend taking the OTA or running the ruu to update because you'll be on the new hboot
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Not to mention the new base for stock has introduced a few of its own issues that the new firmware/hboot can not fix. Several people have attempted to downgrade thinking its the best alternative and brick their phones in doing so. The new firmware doesn't change much anyway
I know there is a way to upgrade the firmware for s on but is there a way without updating the hboot?
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Nope, the partition is locked and signed, 1.12 did have the ability though
RUU while ulocked bootloader
chriswbush said:
I know there is a way to upgrade the firmware for s on but is there a way without updating the hboot?
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I ran the latest RUU with bootloader unlocked, s-on, rooted and I got everything except the latest radio and hboot. You have to relock the bootloader, then run RUU to get a complete upgrade.
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I ran the latest RUU with bootloader unlocked, s-on, rooted and I got everything except the latest radio and hboot. You have to relock the bootloader, then run RUU to get a complete upgrade.
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I was looking at that but I don't want the latest hboot and are you HTC dev unlocked with 1.15 hboot?
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HTC dev unlocked
chriswbush said:
I was looking at that but I don't want the latest hboot and are you HTC dev unlocked with 1.15 hboot?
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Yes, I used ZedoMax unlock tutorial to unlock the first time. Why do you not wish to have the latest hboot?
I was hboot 1.15 when I ran the latest RUU unlocked and updated on the firmware. I decided that having the latest radio was important and you can not get one without the other right now from what I could find. So, I now have the latest radio and hboot, I unlocked the bootloader once again and reflashed my custom ROM.
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Yes, I used ZedoMax unlock tutorial to unlock the first time. Why do you not wish to have the latest hboot?
I was hboot 1.15 when I ran the latest RUU unlocked and updated on the firmware. I decided that having the latest radio was important and you can not get one without the other right now from what I could find. So, I now have the latest radio and hboot, I unlocked the bootloader once again and reflashed my custom ROM.
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Well I was just asking just in case they do manage to find a way to get s off on the 1.15 hboot and I would like to get it but it seems like its been forever and I would rather get my texts and calls etc so can you link that tutorial?
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Tutorials for unlock, RUU, relock
chriswbush said:
Well I was just asking just in case they do manage to find a way to get s off on the 1.15 hboot and I would like to get it but it seems like its been forever and I would rather get my texts and calls etc so can you link that tutorial?
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Sure, here ya go.
Install SDK tools first - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaNM-lt_aHw&feature=fvwrel
Relock bootloader - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yS7yy4XVA4&list=SP53B1EB8DBE7A5B59&index=1&feature=plpp_video
Update with latest RUU - http://stockroms.net/file/HTCEvo4GLTE/RUU
Hope this helps...I love mine after the latest hboot and radio together. It now has none of those pesky issues I was fighting.
P.S. after you relock, the phone will NOT reboot. Just keep it on "bootloader usb" and then run the RUU from your computer. Then unlock again. It will be all updated and run great.
I would suggest waiting as well. Chances are your missed calls and texts aren't going to be fixed by a new radio
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I think the real chances are that s-off will be achieved on hboot 1.19 first, anyway. I haven't found one credible indication of anyone working on either though...
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wwsorrells said:
I think the real chances are that s-off will be achieved on hboot 1.19 first, anyway. I haven't found one credible indication of anyone working on either though...
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Its being worked on. Nobody is going to announce "oh hay guize I'm working on getting S-OFF". You'll know who is is when they find S-OFF and announce it.
What makes you think 1.19 will be found first? That doesn't really make sense.
I just think it makes more sense to have the latest radio. It was updated by HTC for a reason and everyone that wants it, not being s-off already, has to do what I did. Consequently, since the update I have LTE nearly everywhere I go in NW Houston, prior to the update was spotty connectivity at best.
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I just think it makes more sense to have the latest radio. It was updated by HTC for a reason and everyone that wants it, not being s-off already, has to do what I did. Consequently, since the update I have LTE nearly everywhere I go in NW Houston, prior to the update was spotty connectivity at best.
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Most people don't have LTE coverage yet, so for most the radio isn't worth hboot 1.19
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Unless of course, you're having issues running a custom rom on the latest firmware and older hboot. Then, one may wish to look at the options even if they are the "most" as you say or the least as I clearly represent in your estimation.
Bought phone today and got home and noticed the hbpot. I'm a flashoholic! What the hell should I do now??? Just HTC dev unlock I guess?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1940512
this is an excellent option, it work for me and many others.
popper668 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1940512
this is an excellent option, it work for me and many others.
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Thanks man. So do you think they are working towards a windows based solution? Or is linux the exploit?
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polo79 said:
Thanks man. So do you think they are working towards a windows based solution? Or is linux the exploit?
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if you read through the op you will see they do not plan on making a windows version and they also explain why
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Thanks to you as well. Ok. The instructions are a little sparse. I have a small netbook currently running ubunto, I could use that? Also, I would root with regaw and htc method and then use netbook for rest of instructions.
read the first post in the thread, it does work just follow the instructions.
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read the first post in the thread, it does work just follow the instructions.
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OK. I got rooted with regawmod, then was successful in the downgrade to 1.12 hboot. Now I am stuck on trying to RUU to 2.13 from 1.22. I keep having it fail on updating though RUU. Is there any other way to get that done? Can I just flash Fresh 5.1.1? Or am i not able to because i'm not S-off???
polo79 said:
OK. I got rooted with regawmod, then was successful in the downgrade to 1.12 hboot. Now I am stuck on trying to RUU to 2.13 from 1.22. I keep having it fail on updating though RUU. Is there any other way to get that done? Can I just flash Fresh 5.1.1? Or am i not able to because i'm not S-off???
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Y don't u just do the lazypanda s-off now since you are stock. U don't need fresh rom to do it. The new base is installed when u install a new rom on the new base. Just flash radios separately which u can do once s-off or just being on 1.12 I believe.
Anthonicia said:
Y don't u just do the lazypanda s-off now since you are stock. U don't need fresh rom to do it. The new base is installed when u install a new rom on the new base. Just flash radios separately which u can do once s-off or just being on 1.12 I believe.
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Yeah but the instructions state to not do it with 1.22 (what i'm currently on) and only to do it with 1.13. Or am i mistaken?
polo79 said:
OK. I got rooted with regawmod, then was successful in the downgrade to 1.12 hboot. Now I am stuck on trying to RUU to 2.13 from 1.22. I keep having it fail on updating though RUU. Is there any other way to get that done? Can I just flash Fresh 5.1.1? Or am i not able to because i'm not S-off???
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Why would you downgrade hboot and then run ruu to install the latest hboot? If you downgraded to 1.12 you should have no problem running lazy panda. Am I missing something?
On unlimited's site it says the rom requirements to run lazy panda is 1.13 RUU. I was confused on that as well but it hasn't been successful. I'm currently 1.12 hboot with 1.22 software version. So at this point just run the lazy panda?
Someone in mac's development thread stated they were able to run lazy panda on 1.12. You should ask about it in that thread and see if anyone can help
i ran it out of the box no RUU just ran it
Was that you that mentioned it then? I was having a hard time remembering who mentioned it lol
WHOO HOO! I'm S-Off!!! Ok am I finally ready for customer roms etc and I guess i need to flash radios of course.
edit: Thanks guys!
Let me know what customer roms u install. Those sound interesting.
Anthonicia said:
Let me know what customer roms u install. Those sound interesting.
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Yes.......yes they are awesome. And I know where they are and I'm not sharing. Lol jerkface
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For those happy folks finally moving to 4.4.2 (Verizon and Sprint most recently) please keep in mind that we do NOT yet have an ruu for 4.4.2. If you are S-ON you will NOT be able to save yourself using any 4.3 ruu if you have updated your hboot. Keep in mind an hboot can be flashed without any other part of an update so make sure you know what you are doing and what you have done to your device.
Just a public service announcement to hopefully bring people back to reality before they go modding their new 4.4.2 goodness.
Can't 4.4's hboot replace itself with the RUU's hboot,
(like usual 2 pass RUU install)?
Or did you mean for S-ON devices?
Im sure some magic can be worked for those that are s-off and can flash non encrypted. S-on folks definitely have to watch out. Overall its just best that people think before they play.
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Im sure some magic can be worked for those that are s-off and can flash non encrypted. S-on folks definitely have to watch out. Overall its just best that people think before they play.
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S-off should download. Might have to test lol
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Aren't the s-off'ed and unlocked devices able to use their respective RUU's to downgrade? Example like myself I wen't from 1.11.605.4 official to the new 2.16.605.2 that if I ran in to a problem I could do the 0P3PIMG.zip from SD method or do the fastboot oem rebootRUU with the vzw.t6.0P3PIMG_1.11.605.4.zip and I was under the impression we could downgrade or upgrade as we see fit so long as we are s-off??? Isn't that how it's always been? I thought s-on users only really had to be careful since they could only upgrade due to main version issue and also not having a KitKat RUU now available if they took the update while s-on.... Some clarity would be great! Honestly though I thought the way I just worded it is how it's always been with HTC devices...
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Im sure some magic can be worked for those that are s-off and can flash non encrypted. S-on folks definitely have to watch out. Overall its just best that people think before they play.
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ALL of this discussion is why I started this thread!
It is important we get to the complete truth. IMO my OP stands valid until we have confirmation otherwise.
Jiggity Janx said:
ALL of this discussion is why I started this thread!
It is important we get to the complete truth. IMO my OP stands valid until we have confirmation otherwise.
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Last night, @waco2hot33 ran the RUU and went s-on to take the OTA...and was able to regain s-off, root, and unlocked via WeakSauce/firewater s-off...Here's how he did it
But, once you're back to s-off, and have root, no matter what hboot you have, you can run the commands from @scotty1223's thread found HERE to unlock the new hboot
End of discussion?
Yeah that's incorrect hehe... For s-on users that stands true... They need to be extremely careful until something becomes available, but speaking for the Verizon users that took the OTA and are s-off... Unlocked is NOT necessary, just as long as they are s-off they can actually downgrade back to stock 4.3 for whatever the reason may be.. i.e.: warranty, bad flash, etc etc... It's 100% always been this way for all HTC devices that are s-off... It's by far the greatest feature or perk of having an HTC device... If you don't believe me then grab the encrypted vzw.t6_1.11.605.4 RUU and run it, you will see you will have no issues downgrading. While s-on users if they attempted they would get the main version to low error, s-off bypasses that...
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ALL of this discussion is why I started this thread!
It is important we get to the complete truth. IMO my OP stands valid until we have confirmation otherwise.
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Yeah that's incorrect hehe... For s-on users that stands true... They need to be extremely careful until something becomes available, but speaking for the Verizon users that took the OTA and are s-off... Unlocked is NOT necessary, just as long as they are s-off they can actually downgrade back to stock 4.3 for whatever the reason may be.. i.e.: warranty, bad flash, etc etc... It's 100% always been this way for all HTC devices that are s-off... It's by far the greatest feature or perk of having an HTC device... If you don't believe me then grab the encrypted vzw.t6_1.11.605.4 RUU and run it, you will see you will have no issues downgrading. While s-on users if they attempted they would get the main version to low error, s-off bypasses that...
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Please read my post above yours. Waco went s-on, took the update and installed it, and was able to regain s-off via the link i posted above. Therefore, one COULD root the newest update whether they are s-on or s-off.
I did something similar but why did he s-on?? Def didn't have to do that... I got the OTA and it failed 2 times so I said F it and ran the encrypted RUU just to get back to a complete stock state in case it was a boot.img or something missing issue and I remained "s-off" and "unlocked", redownloaded the OTA after booting back up and the OTA then flashed perfectly fine with booting in to KitKat and still s-off and unlocked. Only thing I had to do was fastboot TWRP back and flashed the SuperSU v1.94 and I was straight!
Did he think he needed to be s-on to take the OTA?
Vinchenzop said:
Last night, @waco2hot33 ran the RUU and went s-on to take the OTA...and was able to regain s-off, root, and unlocked via WeakSauce/firewater s-off...Here's how he did it
But, once you're back to s-off, and have root, no matter what hboot you have, you can run the commands from @scotty1223's thread found HERE to unlock the new hboot
End of discussion?
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Murrda said:
I did something similar but why did he s-on?? Def didn't have to do that... I got the OTA and it failed 2 times so I said F it and ran the encrypted RUU just to get back to a complete stock state in case it was a boot.img or something missing issue and I remained "s-off" and "unlocked", redownloaded the OTA after booting back up and the OTA then flashed perfectly fine with booting in to KitKat and still s-off and unlocked. Only thing I had to do was fastboot TWRP back and flashed the SuperSU v1.94 and I was straight!
Did he think he needed to be s-on to take the OTA?
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Noob moment? Tired? Acid flashback? Your guess is as good as mine, but he went s-on and was able to regain s-off via WeakSauce temp-root and firewater s-off with newest OTA/firmware. So...success? lol
I got what you are saying.. You are stating it is possible to root unlock and s-off official KitKat but what Jiggity Janx created the OP for was saying to everyone to be careful in case they soft bricked hard bricked boot looped or what have you that when on official KitKat there phone may be rendered unusable because there is no KitKat RUU.... What good is a rooted phone if you can't boot it? I was stating that if you are s-off and can at least boot to hboot that you are 100% safe and can run the Jelly Bean RUU....
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Please read my post above yours. Waco went s-on, took the update and installed it, and was able to regain s-off via the link i posted above. Therefore, one COULD root the newest update whether they are s-on or s-off.
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But yes that is indeed good to know though, thanks for the info! Good to know s-on or off we can work with KitKat!
Verdict.....s-off allows full downgrade of everything via ruu. Firmware and hboot. Just tested myself.
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Murrda said:
I got what you are saying.. You are stating it is possible to root unlock and s-off official KitKat but what Jiggity Janx created the OP for was saying to everyone to be careful in case they soft bricked hard bricked boot looped or what have you that when on official KitKat there phone may be rendered unusable because there is no KitKat RUU.... What good is a rooted phone if you can't boot it? I was stating that if you are s-off and can at least boot to hboot that you are 100% safe and can run the Jelly Bean RUU....
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But yes that is indeed good to know though, thanks for the info! Good to know s-on or off we can work with KitKat!
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I understand and agree, but if you're s-on, the likelyhood of you bricking your device is nearly null. If you're s-off, you could likely use the 4.3 RUU and downgrade your hboot (i did this yesterday during a brain lapse after taking/applying the update).
So if you're looking if being s-off allows you to downgrade your hboot, then the answer is yes.
dottat said:
Verdict.....s-off allows full downgrade of everything via ruu. Firmware and hboot. Just tested myself.
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And that's a second confirmations
LOL..... Thank you!!
dottat said:
Verdict.....s-off allows full downgrade of everything via ruu. Firmware and hboot. Just tested myself.
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OP and or title should be corrected so it is not misleading to some looking for answers... Maybe I'll make a thread for users as reference for all the variants
I think the intent of the op was really meant for the users who are currently s-on and running KitKat. If they run into issues they likely won't be able to root and s-off and will be screwed as there currently isn't public KitKat ruu available.
Good discussion. Please don't discuss the intent of the thread anymore.
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What did that mean ~~~> Don't discuss the intent of the thread anymore
dottat said:
I think the intent of the op was really meant for the users who are currently s-on and running KitKat. If they run into issues they likely won't be able to root and s-off and will be screwed as there currently isn't public KitKat ruu available.
Good discussion. Please don't discuss the intent of the thread anymore.
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Vinchenzop said:
Therefore, one COULD root the newest update whether they are s-on or s-off.
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Vinchenzop said:
I understand and agree, but if you're s-on, the likelyhood of you bricking your device is nearly null.
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IMO if you can root it you can f it up. So s-on users do have some risk and currently there is no fix for them on 4.4.2 where there was a fix for them on 4.3 (encrypted ruu).
Good to see that soff users should be good to use a lower version ruu to downgrade if needed.
I have updated and downgraded to the stock version OS and hboot. But I'm also S Off. I had to use the decrypted RUU file though....
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Murrda said:
What did that mean ~~~> Don't discuss the intent of the thread anymore
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Lol...I meant let's not lose sight of the warning here. Noobs will be confused.
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