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For those happy folks finally moving to 4.4.2 (Verizon and Sprint most recently) please keep in mind that we do NOT yet have an ruu for 4.4.2. If you are S-ON you will NOT be able to save yourself using any 4.3 ruu if you have updated your hboot. Keep in mind an hboot can be flashed without any other part of an update so make sure you know what you are doing and what you have done to your device.
Just a public service announcement to hopefully bring people back to reality before they go modding their new 4.4.2 goodness.
Can't 4.4's hboot replace itself with the RUU's hboot,
(like usual 2 pass RUU install)?
Or did you mean for S-ON devices?
Im sure some magic can be worked for those that are s-off and can flash non encrypted. S-on folks definitely have to watch out. Overall its just best that people think before they play.
Jiggity Janx said:
Im sure some magic can be worked for those that are s-off and can flash non encrypted. S-on folks definitely have to watch out. Overall its just best that people think before they play.
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S-off should download. Might have to test lol
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Aren't the s-off'ed and unlocked devices able to use their respective RUU's to downgrade? Example like myself I wen't from 1.11.605.4 official to the new 2.16.605.2 that if I ran in to a problem I could do the 0P3PIMG.zip from SD method or do the fastboot oem rebootRUU with the vzw.t6.0P3PIMG_1.11.605.4.zip and I was under the impression we could downgrade or upgrade as we see fit so long as we are s-off??? Isn't that how it's always been? I thought s-on users only really had to be careful since they could only upgrade due to main version issue and also not having a KitKat RUU now available if they took the update while s-on.... Some clarity would be great! Honestly though I thought the way I just worded it is how it's always been with HTC devices...
Jiggity Janx said:
Im sure some magic can be worked for those that are s-off and can flash non encrypted. S-on folks definitely have to watch out. Overall its just best that people think before they play.
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ALL of this discussion is why I started this thread!
It is important we get to the complete truth. IMO my OP stands valid until we have confirmation otherwise.
Jiggity Janx said:
ALL of this discussion is why I started this thread!
It is important we get to the complete truth. IMO my OP stands valid until we have confirmation otherwise.
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Last night, @waco2hot33 ran the RUU and went s-on to take the OTA...and was able to regain s-off, root, and unlocked via WeakSauce/firewater s-off...Here's how he did it
But, once you're back to s-off, and have root, no matter what hboot you have, you can run the commands from @scotty1223's thread found HERE to unlock the new hboot
End of discussion?
Yeah that's incorrect hehe... For s-on users that stands true... They need to be extremely careful until something becomes available, but speaking for the Verizon users that took the OTA and are s-off... Unlocked is NOT necessary, just as long as they are s-off they can actually downgrade back to stock 4.3 for whatever the reason may be.. i.e.: warranty, bad flash, etc etc... It's 100% always been this way for all HTC devices that are s-off... It's by far the greatest feature or perk of having an HTC device... If you don't believe me then grab the encrypted vzw.t6_1.11.605.4 RUU and run it, you will see you will have no issues downgrading. While s-on users if they attempted they would get the main version to low error, s-off bypasses that...
Jiggity Janx said:
ALL of this discussion is why I started this thread!
It is important we get to the complete truth. IMO my OP stands valid until we have confirmation otherwise.
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Murrda said:
Yeah that's incorrect hehe... For s-on users that stands true... They need to be extremely careful until something becomes available, but speaking for the Verizon users that took the OTA and are s-off... Unlocked is NOT necessary, just as long as they are s-off they can actually downgrade back to stock 4.3 for whatever the reason may be.. i.e.: warranty, bad flash, etc etc... It's 100% always been this way for all HTC devices that are s-off... It's by far the greatest feature or perk of having an HTC device... If you don't believe me then grab the encrypted vzw.t6_1.11.605.4 RUU and run it, you will see you will have no issues downgrading. While s-on users if they attempted they would get the main version to low error, s-off bypasses that...
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Please read my post above yours. Waco went s-on, took the update and installed it, and was able to regain s-off via the link i posted above. Therefore, one COULD root the newest update whether they are s-on or s-off.
I did something similar but why did he s-on?? Def didn't have to do that... I got the OTA and it failed 2 times so I said F it and ran the encrypted RUU just to get back to a complete stock state in case it was a boot.img or something missing issue and I remained "s-off" and "unlocked", redownloaded the OTA after booting back up and the OTA then flashed perfectly fine with booting in to KitKat and still s-off and unlocked. Only thing I had to do was fastboot TWRP back and flashed the SuperSU v1.94 and I was straight!
Did he think he needed to be s-on to take the OTA?
Vinchenzop said:
Last night, @waco2hot33 ran the RUU and went s-on to take the OTA...and was able to regain s-off, root, and unlocked via WeakSauce/firewater s-off...Here's how he did it
But, once you're back to s-off, and have root, no matter what hboot you have, you can run the commands from @scotty1223's thread found HERE to unlock the new hboot
End of discussion?
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Murrda said:
I did something similar but why did he s-on?? Def didn't have to do that... I got the OTA and it failed 2 times so I said F it and ran the encrypted RUU just to get back to a complete stock state in case it was a boot.img or something missing issue and I remained "s-off" and "unlocked", redownloaded the OTA after booting back up and the OTA then flashed perfectly fine with booting in to KitKat and still s-off and unlocked. Only thing I had to do was fastboot TWRP back and flashed the SuperSU v1.94 and I was straight!
Did he think he needed to be s-on to take the OTA?
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Noob moment? Tired? Acid flashback? Your guess is as good as mine, but he went s-on and was able to regain s-off via WeakSauce temp-root and firewater s-off with newest OTA/firmware. So...success? lol
I got what you are saying.. You are stating it is possible to root unlock and s-off official KitKat but what Jiggity Janx created the OP for was saying to everyone to be careful in case they soft bricked hard bricked boot looped or what have you that when on official KitKat there phone may be rendered unusable because there is no KitKat RUU.... What good is a rooted phone if you can't boot it? I was stating that if you are s-off and can at least boot to hboot that you are 100% safe and can run the Jelly Bean RUU....
Vinchenzop said:
Please read my post above yours. Waco went s-on, took the update and installed it, and was able to regain s-off via the link i posted above. Therefore, one COULD root the newest update whether they are s-on or s-off.
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But yes that is indeed good to know though, thanks for the info! Good to know s-on or off we can work with KitKat!
Verdict.....s-off allows full downgrade of everything via ruu. Firmware and hboot. Just tested myself.
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Murrda said:
I got what you are saying.. You are stating it is possible to root unlock and s-off official KitKat but what Jiggity Janx created the OP for was saying to everyone to be careful in case they soft bricked hard bricked boot looped or what have you that when on official KitKat there phone may be rendered unusable because there is no KitKat RUU.... What good is a rooted phone if you can't boot it? I was stating that if you are s-off and can at least boot to hboot that you are 100% safe and can run the Jelly Bean RUU....
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But yes that is indeed good to know though, thanks for the info! Good to know s-on or off we can work with KitKat!
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I understand and agree, but if you're s-on, the likelyhood of you bricking your device is nearly null. If you're s-off, you could likely use the 4.3 RUU and downgrade your hboot (i did this yesterday during a brain lapse after taking/applying the update).
So if you're looking if being s-off allows you to downgrade your hboot, then the answer is yes.
dottat said:
Verdict.....s-off allows full downgrade of everything via ruu. Firmware and hboot. Just tested myself.
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And that's a second confirmations
LOL..... Thank you!!
dottat said:
Verdict.....s-off allows full downgrade of everything via ruu. Firmware and hboot. Just tested myself.
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OP and or title should be corrected so it is not misleading to some looking for answers... Maybe I'll make a thread for users as reference for all the variants
I think the intent of the op was really meant for the users who are currently s-on and running KitKat. If they run into issues they likely won't be able to root and s-off and will be screwed as there currently isn't public KitKat ruu available.
Good discussion. Please don't discuss the intent of the thread anymore.
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What did that mean ~~~> Don't discuss the intent of the thread anymore
dottat said:
I think the intent of the op was really meant for the users who are currently s-on and running KitKat. If they run into issues they likely won't be able to root and s-off and will be screwed as there currently isn't public KitKat ruu available.
Good discussion. Please don't discuss the intent of the thread anymore.
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Vinchenzop said:
Therefore, one COULD root the newest update whether they are s-on or s-off.
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I understand and agree, but if you're s-on, the likelyhood of you bricking your device is nearly null.
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IMO if you can root it you can f it up. So s-on users do have some risk and currently there is no fix for them on 4.4.2 where there was a fix for them on 4.3 (encrypted ruu).
Good to see that soff users should be good to use a lower version ruu to downgrade if needed.
I have updated and downgraded to the stock version OS and hboot. But I'm also S Off. I had to use the decrypted RUU file though....
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Murrda said:
What did that mean ~~~> Don't discuss the intent of the thread anymore
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Lol...I meant let's not lose sight of the warning here. Noobs will be confused.
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Related
I'm currently stock (hboot 1.5,, software# 2.08.651.2,,prl version 21083). I am about to root as soon as I'm 100% sure of the procedure from start to finish. My question is, should i take any OTA updates before I root?,,,,,,,I'm fully aware of the risk in doing this, coming from the evo4g( really don't want to be stuck stock for months, while everyone else is flashing away),,,,I'm a firm believer of searching, before asking, but if there's a better software version to gain root from, I want to be running it.
I do realize that starting out with this version of software means I'm stuck with hboot 1.5,,just couldn't find any posts referencing later OTA software versions possibly being better or worse to root from
pappy76 said:
I do realize that starting out with this version of software means I'm stuck with hboot 1.5,,just couldn't find any posts referencing later OTA software versions possibly being better or worse to root from
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Nope, it matters not what software version you're on. Only hboot, and in you're case, like me, you're screwed either way :'(
I guess I figured as much, thanks,,,I'm a little confused about current root methods for hboot 1.5,,,I see there's fastboot/copynpaste/htc unlock(not too scary),,,install SU,,,something, something can't unlock boot partition(no kernals),,,possibly fastboot install recovery in order to be able to do so. I also read in another thread, there are two ways. The HTC way and a better XDA way, of rooting,,,I'm sold on a better XDA way,,,any suggestions?
The only way to root hboot 1.5 is to use the htcdev unlock.
pappy76 said:
I'm currently stock (hboot 1.5,, software# 2.08.651.2,,prl version 21083). I am about to root as soon as I'm 100% sure of the procedure from start to finish. My question is, should i take any OTA updates before I root?,,,,,,,I'm fully aware of the risk in doing this, coming from the evo4g( really don't want to be stuck stock for months, while everyone else is flashing away),,,,I'm a firm believer of searching, before asking, but if there's a better software version to gain root from, I want to be running it.
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Take the OTA (2.17.651.5) then unlock with htc method.
If you unlock now and use cstom recovery, you will have to flash stock recovery in order to update to (2.17.651.5) latest OTA.
And it will also break root i think. so better update first then unlock then root.
I have some updated info put together from several posts that may help you on your tour if hboot 1.50
[Guide] My Hboot 1.50 HTC Unlock/recovery/rom/kernel flashing notes
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1495358
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mpgrimm2 said:
I have some updated info put together from several posts that may help you on your tour if hboot 1.50
[Guide] My Hboot 1.50 HTC Unlock/recovery/rom/kernel flashing notes http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1495358
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i think you have copied that link from another post of yours so it will not work as XDA automatically shortens the link with "...." so please replace the "show....php" with "showthread.php" or use http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1495358
Thanks man. I've been trying to figure it out for a while.
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mnomaanw said:
Take the OTA (2.17.651.5) then unlock with htc method.
If you unlock now and use cstom recovery, you will have to flash stock recovery in order to update to (2.17.651.5) latest OTA.
And it will also break root i think. so better update first then unlock then root.
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i tryed that and that didnt work for me. i saw in the command line that it was unlock but the phone never when to the unlock screen. what should i do
Thanks for the info, I read another member saying he had to relock to update then unlock again,,,I took the 2.17.651.5 OTA today and plan to root tonite,,,also thanks for the links!!
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...id-4-0-build-3-11-605-22-for-the-htc-rezound/
Not the final but another leak with a new radio. Hopefully this means the OTA is close and im praying we finally get some custom kernels. Wish we could flash the radio seperatly though.
mighty_markus12 said:
Not the final but another leak with a new radio. Hopefully this means the OTA is close and im praying we finally get some custom kernels. Wish we could flash the radio seperatly though.
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You CAN flash the radio separately... but I believe you still need to lock the phone first and flash the firmware.img file inside a PH98IMG.zip at HBOOT.
a.mcdear said:
You CAN flash the radio separately... but I believe you still need to lock the phone first and flash the firmware.img file inside a PH98IMG.zip at HBOOT.
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I thought we needed s-off to do that? When the OTA comes i will relock and update then flash a rooted custom rom lol.t
a.mcdear said:
You CAN flash the radio separately... but I believe you still need to lock the phone first and flash the firmware.img file inside a PH98IMG.zip at HBOOT.
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no point since the radio hasn't changed only a newer build.
mighty_markus12 said:
I thought we needed s-off to do that? When the OTA comes i will relock and update then flash a rooted custom rom lol.t
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No.. I believe you need S-OFF to flash it from recovery, or to flash it without first re-locking your phone and doing it from HBOOT.
Can we RUU back if there are issues with this build?
Im not updating until this goes final but how do we relock the device? I assume after we upgrade we can unlock again?
dyetheskin said:
no point since the radio hasn't changed only a newer build.
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You appear to be correct... Even though it does say it includes new radios in the original post, the screenshot clearly shows the same radio versions that I currently have on my phone after updating the radio with con's PH98IMG.zip from the last OTA..
mighty_markus12 said:
Im not updating until this goes final but how do we relock the device? I assume after we upgrade we can unlock again?
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Yes, you would just have to go through the procedure at HTC dev again to unlock.
to relock in fast boot at a command prompt fastboot oem lock.
and that will relock it .
Sense 3.6? GTFO! I was hoping for 4.0 =[
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jimbo.levy said:
Sense 3.6? GTFO! I was hoping for 4.0 =[
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yep I figured they wouldn't release ever since they announced the one series of phones.
we will not see sense 4.0 because of the HTC One Series phones.
Once those are released, we have a ten fold better chance at seeing sense 4.0..Officially..
we will be getting sense 4.0 as a ROM that's stable and nice, IMO, soon.
So the phone has to be stock, not unlocked..and I can install ics that easy? Any riskz?
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No.. I believe you need S-OFF to flash it from recovery, or to flash it without first re-locking your phone and doing it from HBOOT.
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This is my understanding as well. S-Off is just a "bonus". All other stuff can be done through Fastboot is my belief.
jimbo.levy said:
Sense 3.6? GTFO! I was hoping for 4.0 =[
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That's what htc said all current phones that get ics will have. Only one series gets 4.0.
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a.mcdear said:
You appear to be correct... Even though it does say it includes new radios in the original post, the screenshot clearly shows the same radio versions that I currently have on my phone after updating the radio with con's PH98IMG.zip from the last OTA..
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Just to let u guys know the screenshot is incorrect for whatever reason. I updated to the new leak and it does have new radios. I don't know how to post a screenshot but the baseband version now shows 1.22.10.0310r, 1.22.10.0308r. Also, new PRI version is 1.16_002, 2.07_002.
Land Master said:
This is my understanding as well. S-Off is just a "bonus". All other stuff can be done through Fastboot is my belief.
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I completely dissagree.
as unlocked is great, as we have root.
s-off is desirebale, and this is why,
with s-off, you can flash radio's in hboot, you can't do that with s-on, you must install the OTA, RUU.
but I do agree that unlocking us is a very good thing, but s-off does have many more benefits.
with s-off we could flash the new ICS firmware, and if you didn't like it flash back to GB OTA.
withs-on, if you flash that "leak" firmware, (or any other firmware, radio,hboot) you are now stuck on them.
The main things I miss from having an s-off phone was these,
1) flashing anything and everything I wanted, I could accept OTA, flash hboots, flash radios, whatever I wanted.
this was thanks to the XTC clip and having s-off.
i miss s-off.
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rellomar said:
Just to let u guys know the screenshot is incorrect for whatever reason. I updated to the new leak and it does have new radios. I don't know how to post a screenshot but the baseband version now shows 1.22.10.0310r, 1.22.10.0308r. Also, new PRI version is 1.16_002, 2.07_002.
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hold home + power to take a screen shot, then attach the pic. in a post, by pressing "manage attachments" down below in "additional options"
Has there been any issues with this update? I heard that apps to sd card wasn't working and MMS was having issues sending. Anybody know for sure?
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andybones said:
I completely dissagree.
as unlocked is great, as we have root.
s-off is desirebale, and this is why,
with s-off, you can flash radio's in hboot, you can't do that with s-on, you must install the OTA, RUU.
but I do agree that unlocking us is a very good thing, but s-off does have many more benefits.
with s-off we could flash the new ICS firmware, and if you didn't like it flash back to GB OTA.
withs-on, if you flash that "leak" firmware, (or any other firmware, radio,hboot) you are now stuck on them.
The main things I miss from having an s-off phone was these,
1) flashing anything and everything I wanted, I could accept OTA, flash hboots, flash radios, whatever I wanted.
this was thanks to the XTC clip and having s-off.
i miss s-off.
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Thanks for clarifying this. So what you are saying is even with the MainVer "fix" (setting to low) we can't flash a GB RUU after we flash an ICS RUU?
If so then I was misinformed or interpreted my research improperly. I was under the impression that we could still do whatever we wanted even though doing so might require additional steps.
TIA
Edit: Apparently this is looking bleak. Doesn't appear as if you can downgrade the RUU. This was apparently tried unsuccessfully as discussed in the Scott's Rom thread. Really sucks and is a great reason why S-off is needed. Not that you would want to downgrade but this is MY phone dammit'.
Edit 2: Good News. Scrosler just flashed back to a GB Rom and had no issues other then the "SD Card" issue which he stated was an "easy" fix. This still doesn't allow for a radio downgrade but apparently the new radios are still compatible with the GB ROM's. LINK
I have Hboot 1.15, Fresh EVO OS. And used the Regaw Autoroot following the OTA Update. I heard you can do this using fastboot or HTCdev, but I'm not sure how to do this... And could not find any answers (My concern is that the new FRESH updates use the new radios, and I updated to it, but can't flash the new radios)
If this has already been answered I apologize, but I couldn't find it.
Thank you for the help!
Dude there's threads all over the forum about this issue. Just spend 2minutes looking and you'll be all set
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You can't update radios if you are s-on hboot 1.15. Your only option to update the radios is to relock and take the ota or install the new ruu. Then unlock again, install twrp, and then install your favorite rom. As many will state, never take the ota because you may loose ability to get s-off in the future. This may be true, but there is no s-off solution for your hboot anyway so you might as well bite the bullet now and live in the present instead of waiting for something that may never happen in the future.
Interesting. All right Thanks for your help. And as for there being threads "all over" I was getting conflicting reports, since I saw on one page where it was possible to flash using HTCdev with S-on, but there was no link or instructions given.
To address ur main concern, there is no need to update your radios. If you want to run a rom that is based off the latest update all u need to do is make sure your kernel matches the kernel in the rom. You can update your kernel with Flash img GUI, found in the app store. Just download the rom u want open flash img GUI select the rom and choose to flash kernel img. Once complete, wipe and flash rom. Njoy!
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eddy0090 said:
To address ur main concern, there is no need to update your radios. If you want to run a rom that is based off the latest update all u need to do is make sure your kernel matches the kernel in the rom. You can update your kernel with Flash img GUI, found in the app store. Just download the rom u want open flash img GUI select the rom and choose to flash kernel img. Once complete, wipe and flash rom. Njoy!
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I would HIGHLY suggest against flash gui if you haven't properly learned to fast boot flash it
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Rxpert said:
I would HIGHLY suggest against flash gui if you haven't properly learned to fast boot flash it
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Then how do i proceed to relock my bootloader if I am 1.5 so i can receive the OTA?
Fastboot OEM lock
This stuff is in my guide, I wish more people would actually read it lol
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Interesting. All right Thanks for your help. And as for there being threads "all over" I was getting conflicting reports, since I saw on one page where it was possible to flash using HTCdev with S-on, but there was no link or instructions given.
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Yup. Sorry about my response. I reread it and it does sound a harsh to me now. Anyways you got the info you need so good luck with your phone and sorry again
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Fastboot OEM lock
This stuff is in my guide, I wish more people would actually read it lol
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LOL - I've never seen you guide before, I will definetly open it print it/ and read it. It is appreciated.:highfive::good:
I'd also suggest against taking the ota, but that's just me.
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S-on hboot 1.12
Ok, so I'm rooted, s-on with hboot 1.12. I was able to do the firmware update and update the radios. I've read like crazy and I'm not seeing anywhere I can update the PRI without s-off. Is this correct? One thread said I can flash anything since I'm hboot 1.12 so I'm confused.
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Ok, so I'm rooted, s-on with hboot 1.12. I was able to do the firmware update and update the radios. I've read like crazy and I'm not seeing anywhere I can update the PRI without s-off. Is this correct? One thread said I can flash anything since I'm hboot 1.12 so I'm confused.
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If you're on hboot 1.12, I suggest using lazypanda to get s-off right away before doing anything else.
"We're coming from a pure power source"
metalfan78 said:
If you're on hboot 1.12, I suggest using lazypanda to get s-off right away before doing anything else.
"We're coming from a pure power source"
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I'm a little bit hesitant to do that since I've read it can go crazy wrong and I'm not as savvy with the phones as the folks on the forums. Do I have to though in order to update my PRI?
I'm not sure, I've been s-off since I got the phone.
"We're coming from a pure power source"
I am S-ON HBoot 1.15. Is it possible to flash HTC Stock recovery, go to stock rooted rom, use OTA root Keeper and take the new OTA?
You don't need OTA root keeper because your going to have to do HTC dev to unlock the device again.
With that being said I wouldnt recommend taking the OTA or running the ruu to update because you'll be on the new hboot
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Not to mention the new base for stock has introduced a few of its own issues that the new firmware/hboot can not fix. Several people have attempted to downgrade thinking its the best alternative and brick their phones in doing so. The new firmware doesn't change much anyway
So ill start by saying I've been scouring the internet all night and I'm confused as hell. I have had the Evo LTE since day one, rooted it the same day and have not updated it since. I am on S-On, 1.13.651.1, hboot 1.12 and have twrp 2.3.1.0. I want to update to the latest version, radios and everything, what is the best way to do this without bricking my phone and keeping root? The stock rom is fine for me I just need root.
jcruiser89 said:
So ill start by saying I've been scouring the internet all night and I'm confused as hell. I have had the Evo LTE since day one, rooted it the same day and have not updated it since. I am on S-On, 1.13.651.1, hboot 1.12 and have twrp 2.3.1.0. I want to update to the latest version, radios and everything, what is the best way to do this without bricking my phone and keeping root? The stock rom is fine for me I just need root.
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First of all you have missed a couple firmware updates, but since you are s-on you need to update using a RUU head to vipeRuu thread and follow the script instructions, then unlock again using htc dev, install twrp and then flash supersu and busy box, you will be s-on, unlocked and rooted on stock. Navigation doesn't work on some jelly bean roms on some phones, it just crashes, no fix as of today, use telenav, waze or scout. Good luck!
VipeRuu:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2197909
Root Guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2038123
jcruiser89 said:
So ill start by saying I've been scouring the internet all night and I'm confused as hell. I have had the Evo LTE since day one, rooted it the same day and have not updated it since. I am on S-On, 1.13.651.1, hboot 1.12 and have twrp 2.3.1.0. I want to update to the latest version, radios and everything, what is the best way to do this without bricking my phone and keeping root? The stock rom is fine for me I just need root.
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I would suggest using FacePalm to get your phone S-OFF
Then you can update your firmware/radios
There is no need to run an RUU unless you need to go back to stock reason being you don't really want to update your hboot
Any questions shoot me a PM
bigdaddy619 said:
I would suggest using FacePalm to get your phone S-OFF
Then you can update your firmware/radios
There is no need to run an RUU unless you need to go back to stock reason being you don't really want to update your hboot
Any questions shoot me a PM
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OK, Thanks for the suggestions guys, ill try this tonight.
Lol why is anyone still S-on I just don't get it.
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RobertBohannon said:
Lol why is anyone still S-on I just don't get it.
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Because you can root without s-off.
jcruiser89 said:
Because you can root without s-off.
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yes you can root with out s-off but why not S-off of the ability is out there? S-off gives you unbridled access to your system for better of worse. Though you may be S-off you don't have to use it, but if you need it and don't have it then your screwed. Then you have to go through the entire process all over again. It's better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it. This thread is a perfect example. He wants to upgrade his radio not impossible with s-on but far more difficult. When I updated my radio I just flashed the .zip file like a rom. No need to rename files place them In the root directory yada yada yada. Just my opinion.
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By the way I'm not bagging you over it. Simply saying the phone came out in June last year S-off has been available since July the same year. A year later there are three versions that do the same thing. Good on you for realizing s-off needed to be obtained. Once you are s-off there is nothing that will keep you from truly manipulating your phone any way you desire.
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RobertBohannon said:
yes you can root with out s-off but why not S-off of the ability is out there? S-off gives you unbridled access to your system for better of worse. Though you may be S-off you don't have to use it, but if you need it and don't have it then your screwed. Then you have to go through the entire process all over again. It's better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it. This thread is a perfect example. He wants to upgrade his radio not impossible with s-on but far more difficult. When I updated my radio I just flashed the .zip file like a rom. No need to rename files place them In the root directory yada yada yada. Just my opinion.
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By the way I'm not bagging you over it. Simply saying the phone came out in June last year S-off has been available since July the same year. A year later there are three versions that do the same thing. Good on you for realizing s-off needed to be obtained. Once you are s-off there is nothing that will keep you from truly manipulating your phone any way you desire.
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Yeah, i rooted the phone the day i got it, the only thing available at the time was s-on. Phone was/is running great, but i noticed i'm 4 updates behind and i have started seeing 4g in my area so i though it would be a good time to update the radios. Thanks for the suggestions guys, i got s-off now and going to try to update later.
is there any method that works ???? im already rooted with recovery and all
Last time I checked, there was no s-off method for the newest update yet.
Someone said on another thread you could try to flash the 1.27.531.8 RUU and then try to S-off from there. Havent tried it myself so i can't confirm if it works.
That is why I never run RUU, ur already rooted, use rooted stock roms.... I don't like running the RUU for the reason of all the new firmware, HTC usually tries to block everything we do. to make things harder..
I think the problem ur having is something with the new firmware, possible HBOOT...
Maybe you could try this but with Tmobile nandroid,etc.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2394155
MN0491 I think saw the same thing I did. It seems a little more involved than just RUU though
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I can say if you s-off'd PRIOR to flashing the .11 RUU, you will keep it. Dunno about if you've already done it though.
Why there is not any rooted ROM with the last update?
Also where do I find the rooted roms of previous versions?
Camicia said:
Why there is not any rooted ROM with the last update?
Also where do I find the rooted roms of previous versions?
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Team Nocturnal released a rom with it, go to the development forums to download. I also still have s-off after updating. I never turned it off and I am SuperCID
C Murder said:
Team Nocturnal released a rom with it, go to the development forums to download. I also still have s-off after updating. I never turned it off and I am SuperCID
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Can it be flashed over 1.27.531.11 with s-on?
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Can it be flashed over 1.27.531.11 with s-on?
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I'm sure you can, but you already have all of the updates, since you already installed the OTA. They have stock and rooted roms. From looking at all the posts, it kills the s-off exploits if you went back to stock and returned to s-on before updating. I saw some posts of flashing an older or newer Rom to try to open the exploit again, I'm not sure they were successful though. I waited a week or so and saw that some users didn't return to s-on and just ran the ruu and they were still s-off. I updated my radios and and firmware with team nocturnals and I received the camera software updates and were able to install.