Hi guys sorry if this question has been asked before but i cannot find the answer im looking for. I' have searched before you all say anything.
Anyways what i wanted to ask was is it advisable to charge my phone whilst playing games such as gta3 or max payne? When I do my phone gets hot around 42C and my battery actually decreases.
I use sixaxis controller app and controller, plugged in hdmi and ics .453 (xperia s)
It shouldn't damage the battery, but still not the best idea.
Watch out your phone will blow.
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Why would you play those games on a phone?
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Why would you play those games on a phone?
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- Because they're available
- Because it's fun
- (My main reason to do so) Simply because we can!
I've got a battery monitor app and did some tests with Dead Trigger. The battery info shows it discharging rather charging.
2 possibilities
1. The phone is using more power than what is being supplied. (I'm using the EP850 quick charger)
2. Safety mechanism by Sony. I've (and many others) noticed that once the phone is fully charged at 100%, the battery is still DISCHARGING(with evidence from Battery Monitor Widget) even though the power is still on and battery flashes the lightning bolt. This is to protect the battery life according to Sony.
Maybe somehow they don't want the phone to charge(even though it is not at 100%) while intensive gaming is being done I'm not sure.
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I've got a battery monitor app and did some tests with Dead Trigger. The battery info shows it discharging rather charging.
2 possibilities
1. The phone is using more power than what is being supplied. (I'm using the EP850 quick charger)
2. Safety mechanism by Sony. I've (and many others) noticed that once the phone is fully charged at 100%, the battery is still DISCHARGING(with evidence from Battery Monitor Widget) even though the power is still on and battery flashes the lightning bolt. This is to protect the battery life according to Sony.
Maybe somehow they don't want the phone to charge(even though it is not at 100%) while intensive gaming is being done I'm not sure.
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Ive also found this with my ep850 and stock charger. Could be both of your theories together lol. Ah well looks like ill have to play for 2 hours, recharge then play again lol
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Don't charge your phone while playing games.It's the only reason for it.
Battery life
I've also found that after attempting (!!) to connect my phone using the horrible Sony PC Companion (PCC), and after PCC has told me for the billionth time that there is no phone connected, my battery is shown as discharging even though the PC is connected to my Xperia S with the standard USB cable and no other app running. I think it is yet another "unlisted feature", or "bug", as we real-worlders call it. Overall, I love the phone, hate the support and PC software.
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I've also found that after attempting (!!) to connect my phone using the horrible Sony PC Companion (PCC), and after PCC has told me for the billionth time that there is no phone connected, my battery is shown as discharging even though the PC is connected to my Xperia S with the standard USB cable and no other app running. I think it is yet another "unlisted feature", or "bug", as we real-worlders call it. Overall, I love the phone, hate the support and PC software.
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+1 however when I connect the phone it seems okay but truthfully ive only connected it for a couple of mins to transfer one or two things, or it was to update and root my phone. So I never noticed this. However I do remember it happening on the arc and arc s.
To be honest I mainly use myphone explorer when connecting my phone to transfer
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- Because they're available
- Because it's fun
- (My main reason to do so) Simply because we can!
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OK I know that. I asked because if you love games that much and need to charge your phone while playing, quit game from phone and go on your Xbox. As said before you will ruin your battery and phone. People blow PCs PSU's playing games let alone mobiles...
I'm not saying I don't play them on my phone and telling you not to, do as you will its just my opinion.
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I was simply askin cuz I wanted to know. And ive never been a fan of xbox but im not one of the fortubate ones who can go a pay for an xbox or ps3 or anything like that? I rarely play games anyway on my way phone
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Don't get me wrong I play a few games on my phone too but never while charging.
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The device can get quite hot but never had any issues with it.
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Don't get me wrong I play a few games on my phone too but never while charging.
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No hard feelings or anything mate, just saying I havent been.lucky to own a games console since the psone lol. But I mean sometimes its like your on a mission say in max payne and your battery gets low lol. Not good
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Hilarious to see people talking about things that they know nothing about it..
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And what do you mean by that?
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Right i seriously need help now guys.
My battery is completely and utterly- f*cked.
It says it is charging but it doesnt charge- the number changes but it goes for 80% then drop to 70% etc so i can never get a full charge.
I thought i fixed it last night when i drained it and recharged it back to as high as i could get it (94%), unlocked it this morning and it went from 70% when i locked it last night to 50%- and thats not the worst part- i sent 3 texts and it went to 15% battery, yes, 15%.
I am appaled at it and its well and truly put me off buying another Android phone or Samsung phone.
I need help now, if you guys cant fix it for me, my warranty is over from Carphone Warehouse and i cant be arsed with it.
I cant afford to simply go and buy a new phone so please dont say that kind of dumb suggestion.
Thank you.
Also i want to know if the problem is my phone, the battery itself or the charger/usb cable.
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Well, alittle phone info might help.
What phone is it?
How old is it?
If you do have warranty, I would suggest using it.
If you're rooted, try calibrating the battery, Either wipe the battery stats manually in CWM or just use this handy app from the market:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration&feature=search_result
be sure to follow instructions precisely.
Check to make sure that all your apps that have updates where it can notify you are set to update in intervals of.every 1-2 hours. If you have several games on the phone that have a simulation theme to it like paradise island there are constant clocks that will run in the background regardless if you use a task killer. That I'm only like 90% sure but of. If you think about It things kinda evolve in the game each little item takes a form of clock in the code..which drains battery. The more.games you have the more constant clocks that will run. If you have several social networking apps I.e Twitter, Facebook, MySpace, Google+ etc or any other app that can post to one another social i.e Twitter will also post one Facebook at the same time. One post Will run both apps if one is always set to update like every 30 minutes both with run in the background. If any app that you log in with logs in with a.Facebook account then once you open that up and your signed in then the internet app will be active.because.its accessing.the internet to log in. So in the end check to see what the intervals are when apps refresh for notifications. Try setting your peek times and off peek times for updates, and uninstall Any apps that you haven't gone to for over a 4 days. The chances.are you rarely use them. Hopefully this helps. One last thing is that some batteries if it only takes 4 hrs to fully charge the battery stops charging and uses its own power regardless if its plugged in. Ie you plug the phone in when you go to bed at 10pm the phone takes 4hra so at 2am the battery no longer runs off the charger it runs from the battery itself. Then when you wake up it may aleady be at 80%.
I'd any of this helps let me know. Gold luck.
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. One last thing is that some batteries if it only takes 4 hrs to fully charge the battery stops charging and uses its own power regardless if its plugged in. Ie you plug the phone in when you go to bed at 10pm the phone takes 4hra so at 2am the battery no longer runs off the charger it runs from the battery itself. Then when you wake up it may aleady be at 80%.
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So what your saying is when everyone that unplugs their phones in the morning and it says 100%, it actually means 80% or something other than what it reads? May I have some of what your having? That's crazy talk right there.
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I never said everyone i said some.batteries and there's not many. If the meter says 100% then its at 100%. But my brother im not sure what phone he has but.when he unplugged his phone its at 94% and that when I said the battery will stop charging after its fully charges is what a Verizon store told him.
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Thanks man, i will try your suggestions, it seems to off fixed itself- it drained itself twice over the past few days so ive just left it charging in my USB port and its got to 100% with the notification please remove charger, so yeah i think its fine now!
Will keep you all updated thanks.
CurtisAndroid5 said:
Thanks man, i will try your suggestions, it seems to off fixed itself- it drained itself twice over the past few days so ive just left it charging in my USB port and its got to 100% with the notification please remove charger, so yeah i think its fine now!
Will keep you all updated thanks.
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You bet man. Hopefully thing work out.
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Yeah, its not fixed aha, it went from 50% to 30%- whilst charging -.-.
Does clockworkmod v4 automatically get uninstalled when you flash a new rom as i flashed my device back to stock 2.2 so is CWM gone now?
CurtisAndroid5 said:
Yeah, its not fixed aha, it went from 50% to 30%- whilst charging -.-.
Does clockworkmod v4 automatically get uninstalled when you flash a new rom as i flashed my device back to stock 2.2 so is CWM gone now?
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You need to redownload the Rom manager and do a new flash recovery. Other than that i think your battery might be just old. Batteries do have a limit to to how many times they can be recharged. That's why on new battery packages they say 1000 charges or something like that meaning after 1000 charges the battery will begin to increasingly die quicker. Sorry for the wording I'm not sure how to to word that. Youll probably be better off buying a new battery.
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I cant do a new flash recovery as my phone isnt on the Clockworkmod Rom Manager list- i had to install it via ODIN, its alot of hassle.
Ive had this phone barely 6 months- it got replaced last time it got repaired, i find it hard to believe the battery is gone already :S
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I cant do a new flash recovery as my phone isnt on the Clockworkmod Rom Manager list- i had to install it via ODIN, its alot of hassle.
Ive had this phone barely 6 months- it got replaced last time it got repaired, i find it hard to believe the battery is gone already :S
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if you had your phone replaced you may have received a refurbished phone. Most businesses do that if your not there to pick a new one up.
I can try as a favor. Exactly what brand of phone do you have and version. I.E HTC Hero. if its a device that is on multiple carriers which carrier. I might have a battery laying around. If i have one they are in good shape I keep tons from friends who give me there old phones I use the phones for robotics but not the batteries So if you let me know what you have and if i have it i can mail the battery to you for free. I know how it feels when someone is in this case im more then will to help. its up to you.
That would be fantastic.
I have a Samsung Galaxy Europa (5)
i5500
Its on o2 but its unlocked i think as i used my old Orange sim in it before i switched to o2.
Thanks
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That would be fantastic.
I have a Samsung Galaxy Europa (5)
i5500
Its on o2 but its unlocked i think as i used my old Orange sim in it before i switched to o2.
Thanks
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Ooo. Galaxy I haven't gotten one of those. But if you look on the battery its should have information like 2600mAh Li-Polymer Rechargeable Battery. 3.7V 9.6Wh.
And on the bitten it will say "for use with Sprint smart devise EVO 4g by HTC Sony cells." That's for my phone yours will be different but similar. With that info i can try and find a battery that is compatible. If i don't I have a friend where i live that is the co owner soft this battery surplus store. They have every kind if battery imaginable. I can get one there and send it to you. Its not a problem because phones are a requirment and your in a sitiuation that I have no problem helping out with. Let me know what the battery info is and ill see what i can do
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It says
3.7 V Li-ion Battery
1200 mAh
It doesnt say anything else apart from Caution: Please refer to manual before use, along with a 12 digit code with 4 letters along with a S/N code and the official CE logo.
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I only have a 1500 mAh
What's the serial.
Does it match this.
2xca20cc075864
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I'm also not sure what you mean by bump?
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Calibrate the battery.
So I have been looking for Modern Combat 3 and many other games and simply can't find them in the Android market. I am assuming this is because they are not yet compatible with the Razr? If this is the case how long does it generally take for games to be compatible because it seems most of the EA and Final Fantasy/ premium games dont show up in the mark?
Also it seems when unplugging my phone it goes instantly from 100% to 99% and I was wondering if others have noticed the same? I guess it bothers me more than it should though. Thanks in advance!
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Game thing is stupid, give it time.
And yes, dropping to 99 right away is normal.
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The lack of games is due to no dev support from my understanding, and the fact that google has to review the motoblur-esque theme that it's running (or something along those lines). It's really disheartening to me though, because games are a lot of the reason I got the device. I know most of the Gameloft games won't work...
The last 1% might not be charged for several hours, even after the phone says fully charged.
Pretty common with Li-po hybrids. Leave connected the entire night and it wil probably be 100% a few minutes at least. =)
If you have other battery problems, just let the phone die completely from a drained battery and charge 100% without booting the OS. Supposed to help, since nothing else is using your charger amps.
My phone has 50% battery left. I plug the cable into my laptop to charge over USB. Then I play some games at the same time. The battery level comes up slowly.
So is it good to do that? Or we should do one at a time: charge or use phone.
I have always done it that way and ive had android ever since it first came out. Nothing should go wrong, at least not for me.
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No problems with that.
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Yeah this is a good question I have always wondered about it... Won't it affect the battery like long term?
Wont harm anything
it doesn't matter if affects to the battery or not, you will trade your phone for another new one before the battery gets damaged
The only issue is that the phone will heat up like crazy so...
If you're overclocked or it's a very hot day, please avoid doing this, otherwise you may damage your phone.
Charging in power off stage
Does anyone feel charging in power off stage is quicker than normal stage?
illusiongod said:
Does anyone feel charging in power off stage is quicker than normal stage?
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Charging when the phone is turned off is quicker for me
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illusiongod said:
Does anyone feel charging in power off stage is quicker than normal stage?
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Of course it is. One is "In & Out" while another is "Only In" >>> The battery is filled faster
@Everyone: I wonder if it will affect the battery life. For example, its capacity is reduced faster
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Of course it is. One is "In & Out" while another is "Only In" >>> The battery is filled faster
@Everyone: I wonder if it will affect the battery life. For example, its capacity is reduced faster
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It shouldn't.
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Using while charging overheats the battery and the mobile itself.
Heat is the biggest enemy of batteries (wrt. longetivity), so yes it does reduce battery life. Having said that, most of us upgrade phones in less than 2 years, so it wouldn't be as much of a problem.
But overheating is not good for rest of the phone hardware.
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Using while charging overheats the battery and the mobile itself.
Heat is the biggest enemy of batteries (wrt. longetivity), so yes it does reduce battery life. Having said that, most of us upgrade phones in less than 2 years, so it wouldn't be as much of a problem.
But overheating is not good for rest of the phone hardware.
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I really doubt that. If the phone or battery were overheating, you wouldn't be able to touch it.
Maybe it reduces battery life, but that can't be much, since the battery gets hot whether it's being charged or not.
I kill two battery on my x10 !!with heavy use it when it charge.
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I kill two battery on my x10 !!with heavy use it when it charge.
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If you left it in all the time, yeah, that would.
Using it while charging is fine. Mine charges at about 30-35*C, gaming on top its up to max 41/42. Thats well within limits and its going to have negligible effects on the battery pack.
What charger? Sure it was an dealextreme charger.
Logic.
Killing 2 batterys? Dafuq
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Well, as the title says.. today I've charged my Xperia S from 5% to 100 and yea i am sure that the charger is the EP850
to my problem:
the phone takes about 20 minutes to get to 18% which makes 13%/20 minutes which means that the phone takes about 2h30 to fully charge up and i don't consider this as normal...
anyone facing this? and got a solution?
The thing is battery change level is not linear. So you can't assume 5% to 18% in 20 minutes == 13% / 20 minutes. If the device is new, it will need at least 5 recharge cycles to calibrate properly.
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it used to get up really really fast really it took like an hour and a bit more to get to 100% but lately it just doesnt work anymore.. its about 2 months old now..
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it used to get up really really fast really it took like an hour and a bit more to get to 100% but lately it just doesnt work anymore.. its about 2 months old now..
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Do you have alot of apps running in the background ?
Cuz that also uses power
if your phone is using power, connection to internet/gps or whatever, or syncing stuff, it will also charge slower.
Well i got the sync on but at night i put all background data off so that cant be the cause..
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Try another charger or a factory reset.
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Interesting:
http://talk.sonymobile.com/message/188055#188055
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Hmmm....
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Hmmm....
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Probably they got it wrong. Fast charge is supported and my source at Sony confirms that:
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[email protected] saying that the S doesnt support the fast charging, even on my Box there is a sticker with this on it : 10 Minutes charging = 60 minutes of phone calls so yeah they might have got something wrong there.. but still this is bugging me.. Ive tried a factory reset with restoring apps and still it doesnt work :-( im beginning to think that there is something wrong mit my S' hardware :/
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What Markus is saying is right, you are mixing your technologies up and there is nothing wrong with your hardware.
All charging starts with the highest current so 10 minutes charge will give 60 minutes of calls if you live in the lab, Sony wont give you the worst case figures or they would have told you your S would be flat in 10 hours. As K900 pointed out charging is not linear, it starts with a whump and tails off as the battery gets fuller and fuller, if it didn't it would boil the cells.
Hello,
I'm curious. I am not sure this was how it was before but I notice that when using the phone while charging (with the AC charger), I would still drain battery. Is this normal?
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No, it is not.
While on charger you should gain on battery, not discharge.
At least if you use phone in a normal way.
With BT and GPS navigation on (and some data traffic) my phone gains charge...
cool1007 said:
Hello,
I'm curious. I am not sure this was how it was before but I notice that when using the phone while charging (with the AC charger), I would still drain battery. Is this normal?
Thanks
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Yes, it may happen. It depends on the mAh of the power source.
Usually the USB port delivers less mAh then the AC power source.
In that case, if you are running a demanding application (games especially) the power consumption could exceed the charging rate.
It's possible, yes.
Depends on what the phone is doing at the moment, i.e. when it's on 100% CPU load for example.
Happens everytime I encrypt my S2 a rather full internal and external SDs storages, because the phone is "doing a lot of work".
If you then maybe add enabled WiFi, BT, GPS.... yeah, the power gets sucked out of the battery faster then the AC can pour new one in.
Only thing I'm doing is using tweetcaster while opening the ocasional web page with Dolphin browser, nothing intensive. I'm using the standard AC charger that came with the phone.
This morning after unplugging it, I noticed that in a couple hours time lapse, the phone was hot all the time and lost about 30% battery while on standby. So, I rebooted it and it stopped feeling hot on touch. Battery drain is still somewhat fast but not as fast as this morning.
I'm attaching a Battery Stats screenshot in case it helps.
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P. S. I'm using Hydra h2o rom
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tweetcaster
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And there is the root of all evil.
And the phone getting hot also hints at high CPU load.
I am using TweetCaster myself a lot, and sometimes the app goes crazy and uses 100% of the CPU -> high load -> hot phone and empty battery.
I can reproduce it by deleting the temp folder of TweetCaster on the int. storage and either waiting some time or rebooting, the app will go wild at 100% CPU load for sure.
Ah ok then. Lol. Now I know what to do! Unless, do you recommend me another twitter app that is more battery friendly
Thanks sir.
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Ah ok then. Lol. Now I know what to do! Unless, do you recommend me another twitter app that is more battery friendly
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Well, it's a good app, I don't wan't to bad-talk it.
Sometimes you just need to keep an eye on it, esp. in situations where the int. storage is not available for apps (like when connected via USB mass storage to the PC).
Usually killing it off from taskmanager is enough, on some not-so-often occasions I needed to "kill -9" the process from a shell (Termnial Emulator app or via adb).
I also got a neat little thing called "CPUNotify" (on Google Play) running on my phone, it adds a little icon to the notification bar that always shows you the current CPU load - that way you can literally "see" spikes in load once they happen.
Some time ago I had the same problem.
The problem was on the original Samsung charger. It has shown that it loads, but it lost battery.
I bought another charger and now it charges
its possible. I see this situation everytime I travel. In car I use stock car charger and on phone ussually runs navigation, video recording software and plays music. And battery is drained!!! If additionaly I start My Track, then 7-8 hours and phone is dead. On hot days even had situation, when battery reached 65C temp and phone refused to charge it. So at this point SGSII is real crap
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