I am really having a tough time making a decision to which model to choose.. the north american version or the international version.. I live in Canada, the carrier that I am with (Fido) does not support LTE speeds yet. Thats one reason to go with the international version. I know it has a lot better dev support. Quad core seems nice but not a lot of apps are optimized for it if any. I believe it has better battery life than the north american version since it doesn't battery draining LTE. The only thing for me that stands out with the north american version is the 2GB of ram..
Which one do you guys think I should get?
You asked in international forum. So I guess I would recommend i9300
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I am really having a tough time making a decision to which model to choose.. the north american version or the international version.. I live in Canada, the carrier that I am with (Fido) does not support LTE speeds yet. Thats one reason to go with the international version. I know it has a lot better dev support. Quad core seems nice but not a lot of apps are optimized for it if any. I believe it has better battery life than the north american version since it doesn't battery draining LTE. The only thing for me that stands out with the north american version is the 2GB of ram..
Which one do you guys think I should get?
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I would think that since Fido does not have LTE network the north american version would run on hspa+ for you. AFAIK the S4 dual core version has better battery life if there is no LTE.
Go with either and you won't regret :good:
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You asked in international forum. So I guess I would recommend i9300
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Don't you find that 1GB is too little, I was using my friends and a lot is already being used. And I find that applications then to get closed after not using them for a few minutes.. Wouldnt that impact your decision on choosing which model?
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Don't you find that 1GB is too little, I was using my friends and a lot is already being used. And I find that applications then to get closed after not using them for a few minutes.. Wouldnt that impact your decision on choosing which model?
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It depends on how you use your phone. If you constantly required to do multitasking for more than 4 apps, then 2gb ram will be a better choice. Otherwise, 1gb is more than enough.
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Yeah at the same time I don't want to lose on the great dev support... Theres no clear cut decision to this LOL
Dude... just go for one with 2gb ram. There is apparently almost no app that needs all 4 cores of cpu. So dual core is fine.
Btw more ram has better affect on performance than more cores. Also, if there is not enough ram, what will you do with more cores? So just go for American version Although international version is sufficient for me, still i consider American version as better.
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Dude... just go for one with 2gb ram. There is apparently almost no app that needs all 4 cores of cpu. So dual core is fine.
Btw more ram has better affect on performance than more cores. Also, if there is not enough ram, what will you do with more cores? So just go for American version Although international version is sufficient for me, still i consider American version as better.
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But if I go with the american version, I would have to give up on the great dev support for the international version.. CM9 Stable version wasn't even released for the american version.
There is apparently almost no app that needs all 4 cores of cpu.
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There is also no app that needs 1GB of RAM. Running lots of apps needs lots of RAM and CPU power,
to the point where it's in terms of battery usage and performance far better to share them across multiple cores
so they don't starve each other to death and cause lags.
Btw more ram has better affect on performance than more cores
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That's an inaccurate statement. Without any specifications about what the OP wants to do with the phone, it's impossible to recommend RAM or CPU. Both have trade offs.
However software development seems to be a major point in the decision. From past experiences with carrier-specific devices, development for the international version will by far exceed the carrier-specific one.
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There is also no app that needs 1GB of RAM. Running lots of apps needs lots of RAM and CPU power,
to the point where it's in terms of battery usage and performance far better to share them across multiple cores
so they don't starve each other to death and cause lags.
That's an inaccurate statement. Without any specifications about what the OP wants to do with the phone, it's impossible to recommend RAM or CPU. Both have trade offs.
However software development seems to be a major point in the decision. From past experiences with carrier-specific devices, development for the international version will by far exceed the carrier-specific one.
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I know with my phones I do a lot of heavy multitasking switching frequently between apps. I can tell you I don't plan to play much games. I am opened to try new roms, etc+
I dont think 2gb ram is a big deal, I check my free ram all the time and i never got to use it all, not even close...even when multitasking hard (pause a game and the music, write email and make skype call then back to music and gaming) i have 200mb free at least.
The big thing is, int version will have JB and cm10 before usa version, most of the developers have the int version...
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I know with my phones I do a lot of heavy multitasking switching frequently between apps. I can tell you I don't plan to play much games. I am opened to try new roms, etc+
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I have owned both. I can tell you the american version is good but as always the international is better. Let me quantify. 4 cores vs 2 we know 9300 kills here. Audio quality isn't a question either 9300 kills. Design minor but 9300 has a much nicer back then the us branded ones again Minor. Dev support go look at the ATT and Tmo forums they are sad places so if you care about that and dev then 9300 wins by landslide. Updates 9300 WILL get updates first, historically this means 2 to 6 months before the rest it may be sooner this time but 9300 will always get official updates first which again feeds into the dev work as well. And the one winning point for the USA versions 2GB of RAM YEAH!! It doesn't do much as has been said before very few users will ever see a benefit from it where as you will benefit from all the above and not just a little
Battery life give me a break guys. It's minor your signal strength will have a far greater effect on the batter life than 9300 vs US variants.
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Chainfire and Cynogen both have international
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Chainfire and Cynogen both have international
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Pretty sure cyanogen has the at&t one.
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I have owned both. I can tell you the american version is good but as always the international is better. Let me quantify. 4 cores vs 2 we know 9300 kills here. Audio quality isn't a question either 9300 kills. Design minor but 9300 has a much nicer back then the us branded ones again Minor. Dev support go look at the ATT and Tmo forums they are sad places so if you care about that and dev then 9300 wins by landslide. Updates 9300 WILL get updates first, historically this means 2 to 6 months before the rest it may be sooner this time but 9300 will always get official updates first which again feeds into the dev work as well. And the one winning point for the USA versions 2GB of RAM YEAH!! It doesn't do much as has been said before very few users will ever see a benefit from it where as you will benefit from all the above and not just a little
Battery life give me a break guys. It's minor your signal strength will have a far greater effect on the batter life than 9300 vs US variants.
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But barely any apps are optimized for quad core... probably in the future. I could honestly say the 2GB of ram will benefit me because while I was using it at the store, I was using a lot of apps, and liked how it didn't close any one of them and kept it in memory instead of the international one closing them... still don't know which to choose..
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But barely any apps are optimized for quad core... probably in the future. I could honestly say the 2GB of ram will benefit me because while I was using it at the store, I was using a lot of apps, and liked how it didn't close any one of them and kept it in memory instead of the international one closing them... still don't know which to choose..
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Well looks like you have an answer then. I think you have convinced yourself no matter what version you get you will be missing out which is kinda true. The other opinion would be it doesn't matter much what version you end up with because they are both killer phone capable of doing anything you want.
I don't think any points have been missed we have outlined all the differences and pro's/con's so now it's a matter of biting the bullet for you
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Well looks like you have an answer then. I think you have convinced yourself no matter what version you get you will be missing out which is kinda true. The other opinion would be it doesn't matter much what version you end up with because they are both killer phone capable of doing anything you want.
I don't think any points have been missed we have outlined all the differences and pro's/con's so now it's a matter of biting the bullet for you
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Mine you the 2GB of ram is the only thing that stands out for me for the NA version, I have a few more things that I like with the international version as well. Yes even though barely any apps are optimized for it now, in the future there will be apps optimized for it, making it a future proof phone, it doesn't have any carrier bloatware, its factory unlocked, better development support (CM9 Stable didn't even come out for the US version)
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Mine you the 2GB of ram is the only thing that stands out for me for the NA version, I have a few more things that I like with the international version as well. Yes even though barely any apps are optimized for it now, in the future there will be apps optimized for it, making it a future proof phone, it doesn't have any carrier bloatware, its factory unlocked, better development support (CM9 Stable didn't even come out for the US version)
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Seriously, what the hell are you like?!
One person says get the international you say "well the US one has x"
Someone else says get the US one and you say "well the international one has y"
You even said that the intl one has a quadcore but nothing is optimised for it yet and the 2gb of ram is better and then in the next comment you say that in the future they will be optimised for it and that's better.
Who are you trying to convince here?
Nobody can make your decision for you, stop flip flopping and just pick one of the damn phones.
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But barely any apps are optimized for quad core... probably in the future
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Probably not. Most apps rely on serialized processes in their sourcecode, while multiple cores requires parallel workload.
However, phones are long since past the point where a single task is running on the device at a given time.
Let's say you're surfing the web, with a dedicated Javascript and rendering thread that would be 2 cores. The background music (e.g. DRM-encrypted streaming) runs on the third core while other background processes of the system run on the 4.
This allows a very quick rendering of your webpages without stuttering due to CPU-time revokation, while keeping your music playing and ensuring a general smoothness of the OS.
Again, as I said: it's exactly as with the RAM. No single process will "eat" all the RAM, it's always a combination of several processes.
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I am trying to decide between the samsung infuse and the motorola atrix. I'm wondering if the atrix's dual core is an improvement over the infuse's single core.
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I haven't seen anything noticble over other phones, I think at this point it's all about optimizing the os to the hardware. That way most phones run smooth and don't need to be that powerful. Poker even now the atrix I get lags when using the browser or watching some videos. Normal phone usage is comparable to phones with just 1ghz processor like the galaxy s or nexus one.
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I am trying to decide between the samsung infuse and the motorola atrix. I'm wondering if the atrix's dual core is an improvement over the infuse's single core.
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Well, run a Linpack test and see if the Infuse scores in the 70s. The results to that are the technical answer. Day to day use, I would say it helps, as I have some SetCPU profiles set up to max out at 750 MHz if the CPU temp gets too hot with overclocking (only 1100 MHz at this point), and it is noticeably slower- I would approximate, in my novice opinion, 750 MHz dual core is approximately equal to 1200 MHz single core, if all other things are equal.
i think i am going to go with the atrix. even though the screen is smaller, i feel that it has a lot more room for improvement then the infuse. Knowing how great the community is here, I have no doubt that the duel core and 1gb of ram will be put to good use
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i think i am going to go with the atrix. even though the screen is smaller, i feel that it has a lot more room for improvement then the infuse. Knowing how great the community is here, I have no doubt that the duel core and 1gb of ram will be put to good use
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Good Choice. Honestly, as of right now the dual core is kinda useless, but when you buy any technology you always have to try to be future proof. It does not matter not, but it could matter later.
I would pick the atrix over the infuse, for other reasons. Such as Webtop (through HDMI), Bigger battery, Size (Opinion). The dual core vs single core should not be the central reason.
EDIT: Also the Infuse can currently be overclocked to 1.8 ghz.
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Good Choice. Honestly, as of right now the dual core is kinda useless, but when you buy any technology you always have to try to be future proof. It does not matter not, but it could matter later.
I would pick the atrix over the infuse, for other reasons. Such as Webtop (through HDMI), Bigger battery, Size (Opinion). The dual core vs single core should not be the central reason.
EDIT: Also the Infuse can currently be overclocked to 1.8 ghz.
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are there any custom roms out for the atrix yet? and is there a way to remove motoblur? From what I have read that seems to cause most of the problems.
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are there any custom roms out for the atrix yet? and is there a way to remove motoblur? From what I have read that seems to cause most of the problems.
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look in the dev section....
short answer - yes there are roms
moto blur? sorta... its being worked on
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are there any custom roms out for the atrix yet? and is there a way to remove motoblur? From what I have read that seems to cause most of the problems.
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Yes there are. Right now there around 4+ roms for Gingerbread, expect more when gingerbread officially launches. With CM7 on the horizon.
There are roms that reduce motoblur if not completely eliminate. I am still using froyo with GingerBlur P-ROM have been completely happy with it. It reduces moto blur to almost nothing.
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Yes there are. Right now there around 4+ roms for Gingerbread, expect more when gingerbread officially launches. With CM7 on the horizon.
There are roms that reduce motoblur if not completely eliminate. I am still using froyo with GingerBlur P-ROM have been completely happy with it. It reduces moto blur to almost nothing.
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Same here, battery on 2.3.4 is ****, well for me at least
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Same here, battery on 2.3.4 is ****, well for me at least
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im on ORFR 2.3.4 & battery life is so poor!
hope moto fixed this for the final release!
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i think i am going to go with the atrix. even though the screen is smaller, i feel that it has a lot more room for improvement then the infuse. Knowing how great the community is here, I have no doubt that the duel core and 1gb of ram will be put to good use
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screen size is perfect imo. i had the HD7 and i loved the big sceen the first few weeks, then got tired of it. cool for videos, but thats what my laptop is for lol. its almost imposible to use with one hand, which gets annyoing. thats just a personal preference though.
just wait till they optimize software with our hardware completely, will run smooth as butter. also when/if we get CM7 or other complete ROM.
I had a Samsung Captivate and was able to upgrade, so I looked long and hard at the Moto Atrix, HTC Inspire or the Samsung Infuse. Here are some of my concerns that I weighed:
1) Internal memory - 8GB, 16GB, 16GB (Inspire, Infuse, Atrix) - tie between Atrix and Inspire
2) Program RAM - 512MB, 512MB, 1GB (Inspire, Infuse, Atrix) - Atrix wins this one - less need for a task killer as lot more memory to pre-load without bogging down the phone.
3) Screen resolution - 800x480, 800x480, 960x540 (Inspire, Infuse, Atrix) - Atrix wins this one - I was a little concerned how pixallated the 800x480 might look on the larger screens.
4) Screen size - 4.3, 4.5, 4.0 (Inspire, Infuse, Atrix) - Infuse - if you want the biggest screen
5) Processor cores - Atrix wins this one with 2 cores over 1 core in the other phones.
Also, I saw how long of a delay it was for Samsung to get Froyo out for the Captivate and there was very little info coming from them.
Updates to the Captivate were through the PC program Kies which was a joke - if you are interested in that.
Samsung had no real way to transfer files, etc. between the PC and phone other than USB drive mode.
On the Captivate, the update to Froyo meant that your programs and their data were wiped out. So you had to have something like Titanium, which means you have to root, which means that you void your phone's warranty.
I have been a long time supporter of Samsung phones, who has sold a lot of phones, but I think they have disgruntled a lot of customers and I just wanted to give someone eles a try.
I chose the Motorola Atrix, which I have had for the past week.
Moto provides several ways to transfer files and settings between phone and PC (Moto Phone Portal and Moto Media Link).
The 2 minor updates that have been OTA were effortless and Gingerbread is said to be right around the corner.
I think the features on the Atrix make it a wise choice to have a phone that won't be as outdated at the end of 2 years as the other 3 phones mentioned above (including the Captivate).
Hope this wasn't too long and hope it helps you decide.
I just switched over to the atrix from the infuse.. I have it unlocked and rooted.. Wanting to oc but not fully understanding so I'm taking it slow lol.. But i was wondering. How does the power of the 'FIRST' dual core stack up to compared to todays dual core phones?? Is this still a good phone (Since I just got it) and will it continue to be a good phone?
With a custom kernel, most benchmarks are placing it right under or even with SGSII... not bad considering that phone comes stock with 1.5 GHz dual core.
1.2 you mean?
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here's the thing for me, though: you're installing custom kernels and doing this and that to a phone to get it to perform at max capability.
but, to me, that's slightly artificial considering that if you did the same to another phone, then that phone's benchmarks would also be increased, therefore not really providing any gain for the original device.
that's how I currently see it. is that... correct? or... am I not understanding something...?
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here's the thing for me, though: you're installing custom kernels and doing this and that to a phone to get it to perform at max capability.
but, to me, that's slightly artificial considering that if you did the same to another phone, then that phone's benchmarks would also be increased, therefore not really providing any gain for the original device.
that's how I currently see it. is that... correct? or... am I not understanding something...?
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I'm not running a OC kernel, but Faux's enhanced kernel @ 1 GHz. The main thing was getting rid of motoblur, and freeing up the ram. My benchmarks aren't as fast as the SGSII, but they aren't miles behind either.... not bad considering it's half a year older. I happen to like Nivida's technology too, but that's just a personal preference.
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ifalldownalot said:
here's the thing for me, though: you're installing custom kernels and doing this and that to a phone to get it to perform at max capability.
but, to me, that's slightly artificial considering that if you did the same to another phone, then that phone's benchmarks would also be increased, therefore not really providing any gain for the original device.
that's how I currently see it. is that... correct? or... am I not understanding something...?
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That's correct. Right now, though, the difference is negligible. So negligible that only benchmarks will show the real difference. Now, there's several games that will work only on the Tegra platform because the other CPUs don't have the same capabilities in the graphics department.... though it's not like everyone writes games based on these settings or even optimize other games for them.
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I just switched over to the atrix from the infuse.. I have it unlocked and rooted.. Wanting to oc but not fully understanding so I'm taking it slow lol.. But i was wondering. How does the power of the 'FIRST' dual core stack up to compared to todays dual core phones?? Is this still a good phone (Since I just got it) and will it continue to be a good phone?
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Ahem... Optimus 2X claims the first prize
Anyway I don't have an Atrix 4G, I have an Optimus 2x, same CPU. In my opinion the Tegra seems on-par with the Galaxy S2.
I'm not sure if there is a CM7 for the Atrix, but on my Optimus it is at least 2x faster than the stock rom, benchmarks reflect that too.
SunSpider is a benchmark which basically tests various web rendering tasks and gives a total score at the end
On MIUI / 1.5GHZ the Galaxy S2 scored 1600 or so. On 1GHZ, my Tegra 2 scores 1800! A lot of it appears to be down to software though, rather than raw performance, for reference, an iPhone 4 using Safari gets 4700, an Acer Liquid Metal Black which has some sort of 800MHZ snapdragon (I think?) CPU gets 3800.
The iPhone 3GS on iOS 4.1 got 16,000 or some stupid figure, well below 10,000 on iOS 5 though. In short, I guess what I'm saying is it's more down to your software setup than the hardware, obviously any phone is going to run like crap on a stock rom with 100,000 facebook and twitter apps.
Gonna buy this to mainly surf the web and youtube, so i was wondering if there is a difference in smoothness between the 2 version. By smoothness i mean browing pinching and scrolling, live wallpaper etc.
Nah, not super noticeable if there is a slight difference. Throw a custom Rom on it and the gap lessens even further.
and the north American version has an lte antenna, so if you're in an area you'll be able to browse at lte speeds which are very fast.
The best you'll get out of the n7000 is h+ that tops out at 20mb/s
I get more than double that speed on lte.
and even if you don't live in an lte area now, AT&T have been updating towers like crazy to try and out do big red.
N7000 is much faster! Have you used both or are you going off assumptions?
I have used both and if you can do without lte seen as h+ isnt really bad at all, then get the n7000. And if you put a custom rom on that the i717 is no where near its speeds
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N7000 is much faster! Have you used both or are you going off assumptions?
I have used both and if you can do without lte seen as h+ isnt really bad at all, then get the n7000. And if you put a custom rom on that the i717 is no where near its speeds
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In what ways is it faster?
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N7000 is much faster! Have you used both or are you going off assumptions?
I have used both and if you can do without lte seen as h+ isnt really bad at all, then get the n7000. And if you put a custom rom on that the i717 is no where near its speeds
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No it's not. A processor can only do so much, and just because you have an Exynos, doesn't mean it's going to be a buhgillion times faster than an i717. Don't even try spouting benchmark scores, as those have nothing to do with real world experience.
I've used both, and it seems like you're going off of assumptions more than anyone. The devices are pretty much equal, from what I've used of both of them. If the N7000 had a quad core Exynos, then I would be the first to admit it's faster. But it's still just a dual core, and there's really no difference.
Used both......( sold the int. version after 2 weeks, for no LTE, it got hot, and ate battery like a [email protected]@ ***ker...)
Benchmarks are crap...dont bother...
the international version could "perhaps" ramp slightly faster, but I can beat that speed by tweaking a custom rom anyway...(SEE FJMOD B5, or His latest AOSP JB builds)
Exynos has merrit, (LTE nightmare) but Qualcomm has it this time, and at 10 degress lower temps, and 2 hours more battery life..(for me)
P.S. whats up with that fuggly button on the front ??...(Iphone clone button ??)...g
They have different processors and video chips so in certain situations one or the other could be slightly, but noticibly faster.
In my mind the speed of a phone is really the speed of the network behind the phone.
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Just im looking for advice
i have I9300 , but i'm looking to replace it with i9305 for Extra Ram
but the Rom and support for I9300 is more better
So what do u advice me ?!
Thanks
It's your decision. You want cutting edge ROMs - get the i9300, you want the extra RAM - get the i9305
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It's your decision. You want cutting edge ROMs - get the i9300, you want the extra RAM - get the i9305
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So what do u think
better ram
or better rom support ?
Depends on what you need.
As for me, I might've chosen the i9305, but I also might've regretted it because of the lack of JKay and Domination
I guess you're not having any performance problems but the amount of available ram seems small. I do think about it too but I sure you if everything is working good don't worry about the free ram. I did try few roms and some was worked with around 400 mb of free ram somehow but believe me they was with bad performance than other roms that shows me under 200 mb free of ram. So it seems that is pointless to even worry of the amount of free ram. Free for what? Let it use however it needs at enjoy of your rocket. Multitasking get troubles if this ram is reserved for just showing us. I see some video comparisons of the two models and quad core was better in them as I remember. If apps are not crashing as is on my phone I think is good for you to keep I9300. I had a dual core I9100 with 1gb of ram but it was overheating all the time I played harder games. What if the processor of phone you want to buy get overheat with it's 2 gb ram memory. Maybe the amount of ram will not helping so much. While I play the harder games with my phone now, the free ram is under 100 mb but no matter my phone never get hot as my old Galaxy S2. I think quad core processor is the reason. Stronger processor is better I think than bigger ram memory. If you actually haven't problems of course.
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Listen, the bottom line is only you can decide....you obviously know the specs, the developer support situation.....so why even ask this?
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Listen, the bottom line is only you can decide....you obviously know the specs, the developer support situation.....so why even ask this?
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just im Afraid the performance will be same then i lose the nice rom support
and some time im telling my self maybe after some time a new cooker will support I9305
and you can enjoy both
do you really think 2G RAM and 1G RAM can make that much difference?
i mean , why do you need so much RAM ?
i had been a same situation once before in similar.
i bought a laptop year ago come with 4G RAM , i just didn't know what i was thinking , i bought an extra Memory , (4GB , 50 euros) to make dual-channel, and plug in , initial up
okay, i didn't see any , not even a little bit of performance improvement although some benchmark software indicates something like 3% - 5% performance up.
but it is not humanly recognizable...
actually i can change my mobile with i9305 on free
I think i'd take the i9005
The original one just doesnt have enough ram..
Apps keep reloading. No proper multitasking. Its like im using an iphone..
But still, keep your phone and wait for the S4 is my advice.
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Depends on what you need.
As for me, I might've chosen the i9305, but I also might've regretted it because of the lack of JKay and Domination
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That's rubbish. I have the the i9305 and I'm currently running latest Jkay and I've had the latest Domination theme, I've also had Alexander theme. I'm now running the latest Motomoto theme..
In my honest opinion the i9305 is 10x better than the i9300. I have both and can honestly say that the 2gb RAM in the i9305 makes a huge difference. I find the i9300 is a pain to use. The i9305 is AWESOME! It keeps apps in memory for ages, I can be playing Vice City and come back to it 2 days later and it's still there exactly where I left it.
It feels snappier than my i9300 too, I guess this is because all the apps are stored in memory so need need to load or redraw anything.
The i9305 is how Samsung should of made the i9300. If you traded you definitely wouldn't have any regrets.
The i9305 is a beast!
Here's a few of screen shots from my i9305
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ylbniu5i964sax2/Screenshot_2013-02-07-13-41-57.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/gmmfnhuvuovzji1/Screenshot_2013-02-07-13-48-58.png
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https://www.dropbox.com/s/za5m7vq2vaops8q/Screenshot_2013-02-07-13-43-09.png
Don't forget the i9305 has 4G LTE (if your carrier supports it). Get great speeds with it.
Obagleyfreer said:
That's rubbish. I have the the i9305 and I'm currently running latest Jkay and I've had the latest Domination theme, I've also had Alexander theme. I'm now running the latest Motomoto theme..
In my honest opinion the i9305 is 10x better than the i9300. I have both and can honestly say that the 2gb RAM in the i9305 makes a huge difference. I find the i9300 is a pain to use. The i9305 is AWESOME! It keeps apps in memory for ages, I can be playing Vice City and come back to it 2 days later and it's still there exactly where I left it.
It feels snappier than my i9300 too, I guess this is because all the apps are stored in memory so need need to load or redraw anything.
The i9305 is how Samsung should of made the i9300. If you traded you definitely wouldn't have any regrets.
The i9305 is a beast!
Here's a few of screen shots from my i9305
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ylbniu5i964sax2/Screenshot_2013-02-07-13-41-57.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/gmmfnhuvuovzji1/Screenshot_2013-02-07-13-48-58.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0eteo1fpaqwjzbo/Screenshot_2013-02-07-13-42-22.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/za5m7vq2vaops8q/Screenshot_2013-02-07-13-43-09.png
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Thanks alot
i will go through ur advice . as i believe more support will come to i19305
so let me get 4G and Extra Ram like not2 :good:
but can you help me with link of root !
and should i use same Theme Motomoto file that i have
or there is a special one for i9305
Thanking u
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Don't forget the i9305 has 4G LTE (if your carrier supports it). Get great speeds with it.
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Thanks for ur advice
And thanks All
really you help me Alot
appreciate that
As long as you make sure you only flash things from the I9305 threads, you'll be fine.
For rooting just go the Dev I9305 forum and look at a thread called "what to do when you first get your I9305" or something like that. It has everything you need.
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Didn't know that i9305 supports Domination and JKay, that's cool.
But don't expect the amount of development to change, there are new hot devices coming out soon, and the devs' attention will shift from the S3
Glebun said:
Didn't know that i9305 supports Domination and JKay, that's cool.
But don't expect the amount of development to change, there are new hot devices coming out soon, and the devs' attention will shift from the S3
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I got the mobile now
This is my first post fr it.heheheh
But what is mean of support domination and jkay ?
Thanks
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Okay congrats! Can you share your opinion now, do you feel any difference or is same? And what about the temperature while playing games. I am not going to replace my phone but I still wonder - ram memory or processor is more important for performance.
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ayydin said:
Okay congrats! Can you share your opinion now, do you feel any difference or is same? And what about the temperature while playing games. I am not going to replace my phone but I still wonder - ram memory or processor is more important for performance.
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sure you will touch improvement in performance cause of the ram . special i was facing a problem with my s3-i9300
when the ram become below 100 MB . and u be forced to run to use task killer to increase it
now i feel safe because the ram always up 1000 MB :good:
and sure that reflect on maltitask . no more lag when im opening many heavy program . u won't feel that some program work in background as before
and after install Motomoto thems i feel great
boot animation , and some mods programs is not working
in General i feel happy to convert to i9305 for now ....hehehe
but i will miss the Great OMEGA rom
my advice to any one thinking to sell his mobile (i9300) to get i9305
better to wait and get S4
for me the deal with on free with out pay extra money
Thank for all who share information
Yes I am noob, but I would like to learn more, so here I am, long time looker, joining the ranks. I tried searching but all I found was 2-3 year old stuff or non specific answers.
*Edit* CRAP SORRY, saw that questions shouldn't be posted in general. Such a noob move sorry...
I am currently loading old school gaming roms on my phone and soon to be tablet. Years ago I had n64 roms and they were laggy, I figured years later they would run without a hitch, not so much.
Here is what I am running.
Verizon Droid RAZR HD
Micro SD (class 4) 32GB
Snapdragon S4 MSM8960
CPU 1.5 GHz dual-core Krait
GPU Adreno 225
Memory 1GB Dual-channel, 500 MHz LPDDR2 RAM
I am running the standard vanilla rom so it's stock with Verizons bloatware, so I now a bit of lag could rest there.
I am looking to buy a cheaper android tablet that will run Ps1/N64 games without a hitch if possible. I guess what I am wondering is what controls ROM's lag, is it the GPU? Memory? Processor? The ROM/Program itself? I am wondering what hardware (if any) runs these without major issues.
Thanks a ton guys, very happy to help join the ranks. If I missed a thread that covers this please point me in the right direction!
Bump please
Guess I'll try again
Millni6 said:
I guess what I am wondering is what controls ROM's lag, is it the GPU? Memory? Processor? The ROM/Program itself? I am wondering what hardware (if any) runs these without major issues.
Thanks a ton guys, very happy to help join the ranks. If I missed a thread that covers this please point me in the right direction!
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In all honesty it is a combination of all the factors you mentioned above. Because mobile processors work on a SoC (System on a Chip) design model if you have a weak CPU all the others components on the chip such as RAM and GPU will be weak as well, likewise a strong CPU will most often be coupled with powerful components increasing performance. That being said emulating games is mainly GPU and some CPU intensive of a task. Also the ROM app itself can be a major factor because the games are not being run on there native optimized hardware (Such as the N64) game performance can surfer, a poorly optimized game emulator will lead to poor playback of emulated games. As far as hardware that runs these without issue my Galaxy S3 and Nexus 10 have ran whatever emulator ROM I throw at them. Also keep in mind some game ROMs just don't work or are poorly optimized so no matter what emulator or hardware you have they will have problems with lag.
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shimp208 said:
In all honesty it is a combination of all the factors you mentioned above. Because mobile processors work on a SoC (System on a Chip) design model if you have a weak CPU all the others components on the chip such as RAM and GPU will be weak as well, likewise a strong CPU will most often be coupled with powerful components increasing performance. That being said emulating games is mainly GPU and some CPU intensive of a task. Also the ROM app itself can be a major factor because the games are not being run on there native optimized hardware (Such as the N64) game performance can surfer, a poorly optimized game emulator will lead to poor playback of emulated games. As far as hardware that runs these without issue my Galaxy S3 and Nexus 10 have ran whatever emulator ROM I throw at them. Also keep in mind some game ROMs just don't work or are poorly optimized so no matter what emulator or hardware you have they will have problems with lag.
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Wish I could give you more props for answering that, thanks a ton!!
A few follows ups. Isn't my Razr HD pretty close to the same specs as your S3 (short of yours has 2GB of ram) or now are we talking about the fact that I have the stock bloatware of Verizon?
So something like a Tegra 3 would work perfectly fine correct?
Your last sentence makes me worried. For instance it seems like Golden Eye, Super Smash Bros and Final Final Fantasy 7 all seem to hit small short lag spikes with audio and the N64s hit preformance spikes. It's subtle but enough to be annoying.
Millni6 said:
Wish I could give you more props for answering that, thanks a ton!!
A few follows ups. Isn't my Razr HD pretty close to the same specs as your S3 (short of yours has 2GB of ram) or now are we talking about the fact that I have the stock bloatware of Verizon?
So something like a Tegra 3 would work perfectly fine correct?
Your last sentence makes me worried. For instance it seems like Golden Eye, Super Smash Bros and Final Final Fantasy 7 all seem to hit small short lag spikes with audio and the N64s hit preformance spikes. It's subtle but enough to be annoying.
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You are correct the Razr HD is very close in specs to the US version of my Galaxy S3 apart from the 2GB or RAM, the 2GB of RAM can help performance but won't cause a massive difference in performance. Additionally the Verizon bloat will chew up resources and depending on what other applications you have running the background can take away resources from the emulator. In general carrier bloatware will slow down the entire device making it seem sluggish. Since you mentioned you were looking to get a cheaper Android tablet to play emulated games on I would definitely check out the Nexus 7, it has good gaming performance for emulated games and gaming performance in general. And like I said previously some games will always just lag or have jumps in the audio and can be annoying unfortunately that part of the problem with playing emulated games.
shimp208 said:
You are correct the Razr HD is very close in specs to the US version of my Galaxy S3 apart from the 2GB or RAM, the 2GB of RAM can help performance but won't cause a massive difference in performance. Additionally the Verizon bloat will chew up resources and depending on what other applications you have running the background can take away resources from the emulator. In general carrier bloatware will slow down the entire device making it seem sluggish. Since you mentioned you were looking to get a cheaper Android tablet to play emulated games on I would definitely check out the Nexus 7, it has good gaming performance for emulated games and gaming performance in general. And like I said previously some games will always just lag or have jumps in the audio and can be annoying unfortunately that part of the problem with playing emulated games.
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You sir are a pro, I think I am going to buy the Acer Iconia 7 A110, it has a Tergra 3 just like the Nexus and is on sale refurbed at Walmart for 140.0
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Acer-Icon...an-Operating-System-Gray-Refurbished/23662167
Millni6 said:
You sir are a pro, I think I am going to buy the Acer Iconia 10.1 A210, it has a Tergra 3 just like the Nexus and is on sale refurbed at Walmart for 180.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Acer-Icon...13700444333861315661&affillinktype=10&veh=aff
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Thank you for the compliment and that is defiantly a good choice, my only piece of advice when buying devices refurbished is ask them if you can try the exact device your gonna buy before you pay for it. I have known several people who have bought refurbished electronics from stores where the guarantee said the device was fully working but when they got home it either didn't power on or something else didn't function properly.
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Thank you for the compliment and that is defiantly a good choice, my only piece of advice when buying devices refurbished is ask them if you can try the exact device your gonna buy before you pay for it. I have known several people who have bought refurbished electronics from stores where the guarantee said the device was fully working but when they got home it either didn't power on or something else didn't function properly.
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Yup for sure, they have a 15 day return period, so for whatever reason it does not work, I'll return it. I also saw an Amazon review where they were talking about n64/ps1 roms seems to me like the guy got them to work without any lag issues.