Ok, I've gotten the pure stock ICS and installed it. Now, something I have noticed is that no matter what I do, I can never get all of the files in my phones directory be completely stock. There are some that files left over from applications and such. I would just go "willy nilly" deleting everything i thought didn't belong in there except that the last time I did that I hard bricked my Captivate. I love my Note and don't want to hurt it!!! Any advice or screen shots of a truly stock file setup would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. :cyclops:
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Ok, I've gotten the pure stock ICS and installed it. Now, something I have noticed is that no matter what I do, I can never get all of the files in my phones directory be completely stock. There are some that files left over from applications and such. I would just go "willy nilly" deleting everything i thought didn't belong in there except that the last time I did that I hard bricked my Captivate. I love my Note and don't want to hurt it!!! Any advice or screen shots of a truly stock file setup would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. :cyclops:
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I dont understand your question or post. You want to keep your ICS completely Stock? Wouldn't be completely Stock if dont install any apps?
Or you referring to removing all the bloatware? Then you need to be Rooted, and then use a non stock app>Tibu to remove your bloatware?
But to be rooted there are measures to take to get Rooted.
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what i am asking is when you go to applications then my files what does stock setup look like. i install and uninstall so much crap all the time and everything seems to leave folders and files behind. From time to time i'd like to just clear everything thing out that i don't need. In order to do that safely, however, i have to know what i DO need so i don't brick another phone. thanks.
the best way to remove the unwanted items on the internal SD, is to format the emmc in recovery (CWM)
this will "wipe" the internal space of the device, and repopulate only the specific device information pertaining to the rom on reboot.
but i caution you.......(please read this) !!
Although the risk is low, you can possibly delete items that you should not have. I.E.
data that you should back up prior to removal. photo's, documents, data from specific system apps etc.
But i've done this at least a dozen times since owning my note, as it strips all garbage left over from previous roms etc.
Again, you do this at your own risk, and i assume no liability from "your" choice to wipe the emmc partition, or any other partition on your device.
long story short, format emmc from recovery, and your internal storage will be "empty" as in nothing left. then on reboot, the device rom will re-populate the bare minimum file structure to run. So back up anything/everything you want to keep, and place it on PC...then it can be moved back if needed.
Now i dont know your skill level, or your root status etc. so if you are not rooted yet...see the "note everything" thread at the top of the general section. It is the best guide i've ever seen. and it will guide you through any process you want to use. with the exception of the one i just gave you...LOL
this method is no joke...and you "must" be sure that you understand what you are doing, and how to recover the device if something goes wrong.
good luck, and be careful !!!....g
Outstanding Sir! Thank you very much. Worked wonderfully. It's amazing how the little things can really brighten your day.
condork464 said:
Outstanding Sir! Thank you very much. Worked wonderfully. It's amazing how the little things can really brighten your day.
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done already ?
Nice !...........:highfive:
Glad to have helped you......g
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If you dont mind, could you edit your thread title to include the word "SOLVED" ??
It helps users find answers faster, and keeps the sections clean..
Thanks !!....g
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done already ?
Nice !...........:highfive:
Glad to have helped you......g
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If you dont mind, could you edit your thread title to include the word "SOLVED" ??
It helps users find answers faster, and keeps the sections clean..
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Hello guys. I'm new to smartphones and Vibrant is my first. I bought one off ebay for $240 and it has Android version 2.1-update1 installed on it. I would like to know if you guys recommend that I ungrade it to Froyo or above. I've heard some bad things about Froyo and wouldnt like to regret doing the update. I've already backed up all apps on the phone. Just need your professional opinion on this matter. Thank you.
Well welcome to the world of the samsung Vibrant, lol, well obviously froyo us the best and You should upgrade and if you want, You should root your device and learn to put a "ROM" on ur phone like the ones below, and FYI, since u posted this in the wrong place, your gonna get flamed, next time post in vibrant Q and A.
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Well welcome to the world of the samsung Vibrant, lol, well obviously froyo us the best and You should upgrade and if you want, You should root your device and learn to put a "ROM" on ur phone like the ones below, and FYI, since u posted this in the wrong place, your gonna get flamed, next time post in vibrant Q and A.
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Ive already rooted the phone and unlocked it. How do I set the ROM? What is ROM?
mbison83 said:
Ive already rooted the phone and unlocked it. How do I set the ROM? What is ROM?
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A ROM is pretty much your OS. All these Froyo ROMs are really good, just know how to flash properly. I STRONGLY suggest you:
1) Consistently backup all your apps with "Titanium Backup" and google, AND make a copy of all your data on your computer.
2) READ, I suggest you read the Bible (it's Stickied at the top) and LEARN before you do ANYTHING.
3) And lastly, when you mess up, as EVERYONE, and I mean EVERYONE has, you will need to know how to revert back to STOCK firmware.
Keep this link close, it will save your neck:
http://androidspin.com/2010/08/09/how-to-restore-or-recover-your-samsung-vibrant/
check out the rom vibrant bible thread all ur answers will be ther enjoy, oh and yes upgrade to froyo
bobbbb said:
A ROM is pretty much your OS. All these Froyo ROMs are really good, just know how to flash properly. I STRONGLY suggest you:
1) Consistently backup all your apps with "Titanium Backup" and google, AND make a copy of all your data on your computer.
2) READ, I suggest you read the Bible (it's Stickied at the top) and LEARN before you do ANYTHING.
3) And lastly, when you mess up, as EVERYONE, and I mean EVERYONE has, you will need to know how to revert back to STOCK firmware.
Keep this link close, it will save your neck:
http://androidspin.com/2010/08/09/how-to-restore-or-recover-your-samsung-vibrant/
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For some reason Titanium Backup does not work for me. When I run it I get 0 as a number of apps installed and when I click backup all apps and system files it immediately says backup completed. I've been using the Flii Backup. Is that okay? How do I copy all the stuff to my PC? Thank you for all the info.
Also, should I go with the 2.3 Gingerbread version instead?
mbison83 said:
For some reason Titanium Backup does not work for me. When I run it I get 0 as a number of apps installed and when I click backup all apps and system files it immediately says backup completed. I've been using the Flii Backup. Is that okay? How do I copy all the stuff to my PC? Thank you for all the info.
Also, should I go with the 2.3 Gingerbread version instead?
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when you open Titanium Backup, does it say that it has been granted SU permissions?
If it does, then we're good so far. I've had that happen when I first used TiB on my hubby's phone. The way I got over that was to hit the menu button and select "Batch". You should now be on the Batch Backup/Restore - ALL page. From there, I selected RUN for "Backup all user apps + system data". That should force TiB to go ahead and make the backups.
Now, as for copying the files over onto your PC, just use plug in your USB cable and connect it to your PC. Your phone should emit a little tone or vibrate after this (or at least mine does but it's been a long time since I've used stock). From there, slide down your notifications bar (slide your finger from the top of the screen to the bottom of it) and you should see a note telling you that your USB is connected and if you hit that, it will ask you if you would like to mount your SD card (or something similar to that). Select "yes" and your PC will ask you if you want to open these "drives". Select "yes" again and now you will be able to explore the files on your phone the same way you'd do it on your PC.
As for the whole copy+paste thing, the files work the same as if you're copying files around your PC. Generally, I keep multiple backups on my PC, so it might be a smart idea to label your Titanium Backup file with name or date (ie: Titanium Backup - Stock JFD or Titanium Backup - ROMname blahKernel).
Afaik, we don't have a stable Gingerbread ROM yet but I think our devs are getting pretty close. However, we have several stable Froyo ROMs available in the Android Dev section.
Oniyuri said:
when you open Titanium Backup, does it say that it has been granted SU permissions?
If it does, then we're good so far. I've had that happen when I first used TiB on my hubby's phone. The way I got over that was to hit the menu button and select "Batch". You should now be on the Batch Backup/Restore - ALL page. From there, I selected RUN for "Backup all user apps + system data". That should force TiB to go ahead and make the backups.
Now, as for copying the files over onto your PC, just use plug in your USB cable and connect it to your PC. Your phone should emit a little tone or vibrate after this (or at least mine does but it's been a long time since I've used stock). From there, slide down your notifications bar (slide your finger from the top of the screen to the bottom of it) and you should see a note telling you that your USB is connected and if you hit that, it will ask you if you would like to mount your SD card (or something similar to that). Select "yes" and your PC will ask you if you want to open these "drives". Select "yes" again and now you will be able to explore the files on your phone the same way you'd do it on your PC.
As for the whole copy+paste thing, the files work the same as if you're copying files around your PC. Generally, I keep multiple backups on my PC, so it might be a smart idea to label your Titanium Backup file with name or date (ie: Titanium Backup - Stock JFD or Titanium Backup - ROMname blahKernel).
Afaik, we don't have a stable Gingerbread ROM yet but I think our devs are getting pretty close. However, we have several stable Froyo ROMs available in the Android Dev section.
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Yes. It seems to work now. I've used the Clockwork Recovery app and did backup through it. Would that be enough? Where is the Android Dev section? What do I do next? Thank you.
As far as the ROM goes. Which one would you recommend? I was looking at the Axura 2.3.1.0 and Ginger Clone R2. How about Nero v5? Thanks guys!
Welcome! And yes you should definitely update to Froyo, or a rom based on Froyo. I'm not sure what you heard that soured your opinion of Froyo...but it is a noticeable performance upgrade! It's been a while but I'm pretty sure the JIT compiler was introduced with 2.2 (someone fact check me pls) which should improve java performance multiple times.
I recommend Bionix-V 1.21 for a custom ROM made especially for the Vibrant. It's extremely fast and the community is friendly, helpful, and most importantly VERY active. I linked you to a guide that should answer any questions you might have regarding the rom, and android in general.
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Welcome! And yes you should definitely update to Froyo, or a rom based on Froyo. I'm not sure what you heard that soured your opinion of Froyo...but it is a noticeable performance upgrade! It's been a while but I'm pretty sure the JIT compiler was introduced with 2.2 (someone fact check me pls) which should improve java performance multiple times.
I recommend Bionix-V 1.21 for a custom ROM made especially for the Vibrant. It's extremely fast and the community is friendly, helpful, and most importantly VERY active. I linked you to a guide that should answer any questions you might have regarding the rom, and android in general.
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Thank you. Unfortunately the link does not work for me. It wants me to sign up.
mbison83 said:
Thank you. Unfortunately the link does not work for me. It wants me to sign up.
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Yeah, forgot to mention that...but hey if you're gonna try the rom you might as well join their site ;P
Update: Ok, guys. I went to this link and got the Axura 2.3.1.0 installed with the use of this video, which is very useful and I was able to perform this flash flawlessly.
Anyway, The ROM is really responsive and I have only found one flaw, which is that the Fast Web Install app does not work on it. I get the message that they are working on it. Also, the Titanium Backup did not back up anything. All was backed up by the ROM Manager and the Flii Backup.
This ROM has impressed me with its responsiveness. It seems like a high-quality ROM and this is the first time I did the flash, so I'm not familiar with other ROMs. However, this ROM seems like a good pick for now at least. Can you guys advise me where I can sign up for notifications about the Axura updates? Any further suggestions? I appreciate your precious time.
In the Questions and Answers section, at the top, there is a NOOB guide... I would HIGHLY suggest reading it. It explains just about EVERYTHING you could want to do to your new phone!
As far as your next mod... start customizing your phone! Go to the Theme section of the forum and browse around for some custom battery mods and framework mods. It's CRAZY amazing how customizable these phones are!
I used to use the ROM's on here, but since Froyo came out, I'm sticking with a deodexed stock of KB1 (the latest and greatest update). That allows me to modify my framework and all the phone images without having to worry about screwing up one of the custom ROMs out there. I always feel safer with stock... plus root of course. Replaced my boot and shutdown animations with custom ones I created... don't have them posted on here as they are made specifically for my band and noone here would want them!
Keep your contacts synced to google so you don't lose them, backup with Titanium every once in a while to keep your game data and app data up to date, keep reading on here about modding, you could start reading the google developers website to learn about the inner workings of Android and how to write programs... so much to do and so little time in life!!!
Enjoy!
P.S. Everything that I've done to my phone (and it is quite a bit) I've done myself simply by reading these forums and researching everything on my own... you would be surprised how little you have to post questions on here if you simply take some time and read everyone else's posts. The search button up on top of every page is very useful!
Hi guys,
i'm still very new to this whole Android world and learning each day so please help me understand this problem i'm having. My phone is i9305 (EU model) just for reference.
First off i would like to know if this is possible to do without rooting or hacking since i like to be able to do OTA update and not mess to much with the phone if possible. If this is not possible then i could root. I actually tested rooting using the CF-Auto-root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957273
So What i like to know is how can i backup and restore my phone is the same shape as it is today. I know that i cant back-up my private data without rooting and for now lets say i dont care about that part. What i like is to be able to backup all
- the applications
- my folders and how i can organized everything
- my desktop and how i have organized everything
- everything else like my background and other system settings.
I tried one to do a system restore+clear cache and my phone was reseted as my day one. When i connected to my google account it started downloading all my applications but sadly everything was just dumped in the application window without my previous structure so google dont save any settings. I did get my background and contact/calendar info back which was good.
So does anyone know how one can make a type of backup/restore i'm after?
I tested titanium backup and my Backup (when i had rooted) but didnt see an option for the mentioned features.
ps. Since i used iPhone i'm a bit spoiled, itunes does a great job doing a proper backup with the whole application/user data when making backup and the restore does restore everything like all your settings, background, folders where you organized the applications so i'm looking for something similar in Android. I had expected Kies to do this but it only saves basic stuff which seems to be the same as Google saves in the cloud (like contacts and such)
Grateful for any tips in this regard.
search, all the info is out there for you to read.
you'll need a custom recovery
Glebun said:
search, all the info is out there for you to read.
you'll need a custom recovery
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Thanks i think with your keyword i mange to search for something meaningful
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile...-and-how-to-use-it-on-android-complete-guide/
It seems the CWM is the way to go. Seems like a very powerful tools. One thing i still dont know is if it back up the whole OS or just the application/data ?
For instance if i do a backup when i'm on build AB and then install AC and clean my system and do a restore what do i end up with?
AC + all my applications and settings?
or
AB + all my applications and settings?
just search for the definition of nandroid backup, don't expect spoonfeeding
Glebun said:
just search for the definition of nandroid backup, don't expect spoonfeeding
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If you know the answer why not just say it? This type if attitude isn't really helping me (or others as i seen you do the same on other threads). I will search more on it still but please remember why we are in this section and forum in the first place. If i knew what to look for i wouldnt ask. I have searched on the topic it but with thousands of threads its pretty much impossible to get a clear understanding of things and as mentioned i'm not that familiar with Android world.
it might be hard to imagine for you but not everyone are familiar with the rooting and hacking world and all the abbreviations and much of what is discussed is hard to follow for beginners like me.
Atleast if you want to be helpful provide a link or something
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If you know the answer why not just say it? This type if attitude isn't really helping me (or others as i seen you do the same on other threads). I will search more on it still but please remember why we are in this section and forum in the first place. If i knew what to look for i wouldnt ask. I have searched on the topic it but with thousands of threads its pretty much impossible to get a clear understanding of things and as mentioned i'm not that familiar with Android world.
it might be hard to imagine for you but not everyone are familiar with the rooting and hacking world and all the abbreviations and much of what is discussed is hard to follow for beginners like me.
Atleast if you want to be helpful provide a link or something
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Install a custom recovery like clock work mod to do a full back up (nandroid backup). Download Rom manager to install the recovery (must be rooted)
Back up EFS what you can find an app to do.
Use Titanium backup to back up Apps and data.
If you want to root http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1703488
Ashley covered it all. Breakdown:
To back up your ROM you need a custom recovery installed. Boot into it and select backup. This backs up absolutely everything at that moment in time.
-Your ROM settings, apps including data and settings, messages received.
However you can't transfer your app data between ROMs because it's part of an entire image. So you use Titanium to back up (for apps+app data) which can be used all over the place.
You'll want this if you ever switch back to an old ROM as when you restore that ROM you can restore your Titanium to update the app data associated to that ROM.
You can back up your launcher layout if it's third party as it's an app. Touch wiz launcher I don't think so.
Exynos SIII; CM10.1
Don't use rom manager for CWM.. I've seen it brick more phones than anything.
well, I told you want to search for. check the first rule of xda
the easiest i would say would Titanium backup pro. phone needs to be rooted. you sync to dropbox and other clouds.
i always have two back ups one is Titanium and the other is twrp
@Ashley1987, 23Six, xSpeced,Farooq_Chicago
Thank you for your valuable input. I think the conclusion is that titanium backup pro is the best way to go since i want to be able to use different ROMs. And nandroid backup if i want to restore on the same ROM. I actually have bought titanium backup pro so i will "play" with that once i root my phone again (not a big fan of rooting and stuff since i can use OTA update but it seems like the only option).
do you know if i actually get back everything as i have today (including folder structure on desktop and application menu) ?
I spend lots of time on doing this so its good to know before i try to wipe my phone and try
@Glebun, i think someone else need to read the rules as well! if i had to guess i would say you just post to get a high number of post under your name. You dont contribute to the discussion and are somewhat hostile in your posts. This attitude isnt helpful and is not appreciated by anyone. So if you cant help i suggest you simply dont post. And i repeat what i said earlier that i had investigated but when you are new sometimes you need someone to push you in the right direction and advice you which is the point of this forum and section. As you see there are many people who helped me and i appreciate that. You on the other hand just complain and wasted yours and my time on nothing useful. Please think twice before posting next time.
I am a noob and I am not a developer or even really great at programming or PC's in general.
I've managed to mess up my phone and have been looking all over the web for how to fix it and I am at a loss.
I decided to register and ask for help. Please be patient and understanding if I ask a lot of questions or don't understand things you accept as basic, understood or common. I looked through existing threads for help and couldn't find the answer I needed. Many thanks in advance for the help. Readers digest of the issue below.
Samsung Galaxy S 4G. T-Mobile. T959V5B5-Custom.
I tried the non-mandatory firmware update from T-mobile and it wrecked the functionality of my phone. I tried to go back with a couple new Rom versions and think I more or less ended up with three roms installed on my internal storage which has given me basically no space which was never an issue for me before. I have used a disk viewer to verify there is unmounted data that is taking up space but I can't figure out how to get to it through the phone or my pc to delete it. I assume if I do this that the empty space will be absorbed and fix the internal storage issue.
Again, thank you for taking the time to read and respond. I love my phone and just want it working right again.
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I am a noob and I am not a developer or even really great at programming or PC's in general.
I've managed to mess up my phone and have been looking all over the web for how to fix it and I am at a loss.
I decided to register and ask for help. Please be patient and understanding if I ask a lot of questions or don't understand things you accept as basic, understood or common. I looked through existing threads for help and couldn't find the answer I needed. Many thanks in advance for the help. Readers digest of the issue below.
Samsung Galaxy S 4G. T-Mobile. T959V5B5-Custom.
I tried the non-mandatory firmware update from T-mobile and it wrecked the functionality of my phone. I tried to go back with a couple new Rom versions and think I more or less ended up with three roms installed on my internal storage which has given me basically no space which was never an issue for me before. I have used a disk viewer to verify there is unmounted data that is taking up space but I can't figure out how to get to it through the phone or my pc to delete it. I assume if I do this that the empty space will be absorbed and fix the internal storage issue.
Again, thank you for taking the time to read and respond. I love my phone and just want it working right again.
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The course of action I would recommend at this point is using a tool called Odin to re-flash the stock ROM to your phone. I would recommend taking a look at this guide for the step-by-step procedure on how to do this. Let me know if you still have questions .
shimp208 said:
The course of action I would recommend at this point is using a tool called Odin to re-flash the stock ROM to your phone. I would recommend taking a look at this guide for the step-by-step procedure on how to do this. Let me know if you still have questions .
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Hey! Big thanks for the reply. Here come the questions...
I used Odin to put the other OS versions on the phone so I am familiar with the software though its been several months. I also still have the ROM that I flashed to phone. I am curious though that if it didn't wipe the previous partitions last time, what would keep it from doing the same thing this time and really messing me up? Or did I click or not click something in Odin or use the wrong option and doing it differently this time would fix the problem?
I located the files on the phone and have verified they are not mounted and looked at their size using DiskInfo. They are located at "/dev/block". Do you know what this is or why they are there? I can delete them using ES File Explorer with SuperUser. Is it ok to delete these and would I get the benefit of increased storage by doing so? I played around with moving them to the SD card and didn't see an increase in my internal storage but was afraid that a reboot after doing to might be bad.
Can you tell I am a little gun shy?
Here are the names of the files, the set starting with t starts at 0 and goes to 12 and the other 1 to 12.
tsfr0-tfsr12
bml1-bml12
Thanks again!
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Hey! Big thanks for the reply. Here come the questions...
I used Odin to put the other OS versions on the phone so I am familiar with the software though its been several months. I also still have the ROM that I flashed to phone. I am curious though that if it didn't wipe the previous partitions last time, what would keep it from doing the same thing this time and really messing me up? Or did I click or not click something in Odin or use the wrong option and doing it differently this time would fix the problem?
I located the files on the phone and have verified they are not mounted and looked at their size using DiskInfo. They are located at "/dev/block". Do you know what this is or why they are there? I can delete them using ES File Explorer with SuperUser. Is it ok to delete these and would I get the benefit of increased storage by doing so? I played around with moving them to the SD card and didn't see an increase in my internal storage but was afraid that a reboot after doing to might be bad.
Can you tell I am a little gun shy?
Here are the names of the files, the set starting with t starts at 0 and goes to 12 and the other 1 to 12.
tsfr0-tfsr12
bml1-bml12
Thanks again!
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Using Odin to re-flash the stock ROM will automatically setup the right configuration for. Do Not delete the files in /dev/block these are critical to the phones operation and part of the phones normal partitioning and operation as previously stated deleting these will cause a lot of problems if you delete them. If you really want to free up some internal storage space I would recommend deleting the carrier pre-installed bloatware, before you delete any bloatware makesure to backup the apps you deleted with Titanium Backup or a similar backup or flash Clockworkmod Recovery or Team Win Recovery Project and make a Nandroid Backup which is a complete backup of your phone. And don't worry about being gun shy we are all beginners at some point the only real way to become an expert if practice, practice, practice .
So I am working on the Heimdall One-Click.
Handshaking with loke, got no response. FML.
Help.
Edited: Apparently a low battery is not your friend...
after a little reading around on the net I tried a different one and BAM.
Back to stock. We'll see how this goes.
Being rooted with superuser had me spoiled...so much bloatware.
I am usually here hoping to help others, now its my turn..............
I am a bit stumped here. I am trying to figure out why my phone doesn't seem to want to run 4.3
I have tried almost all of them. with stock kernel and alternate. I am not flashing a bunch of extra stuff or anything and ran various different builds. I am not trying to over rev the engine either. ive done these test over the past 2 weeks so i know i am not rushing anything
what I had been doing was flashing a ROM, any 4.3 and appropriate Gapps. I am very hygienic flasher and very careful to flash compatible packages. I would flash package and then use APP2ZIP to bring back all my apps. on the average about 24 hrs after flashing, I get reboot and it wont come back up. just keeps boot looping. I was thinking maybe had something to do with the apps i saved and flashed from APP2ZIPP being from 4.2 Gapps??? and i am trying to run 4.3 now. sounds kind of dumb now that i am typing it but, you pour a shot glass full of information into a thimball size brain, and you are bound to spill something.
so i tried today the 8/26 build of PAC ROM and did not flash my app zip. 2 hours later.........boot loop.
4.1 & 4.2 does not do this..............i don't get it.
is it something so simple it just got spilled?
4.3 didn't like my phone much either .........
RoOtBoX4/20..4AcEs4/21..SpEcCd+RoBoToEd+ViPeRd. 2$HAYNE!!!
That sucks captemo, 4.3 runs great on my phone far more stable then 4.2 . Have you tried wiping your internal and memory card? Is try that save all your important stuff wipe your phone completely and see how it runs.
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You could try reverting to stock first, then installing 4.3.
My phone didn't like any custom roms besides padawan and I'm like wtf? One day I decided to use kies and blitz everything on my phone. Now I can flash any rom properly and don't have any issues. I also blitzed the memory card so everything was fresh.
Sorry to hear your troubles. Good luck!
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That sucks captemo, 4.3 runs great on my phone far more stable then 4.2 . Have you tried wiping your internal and memory card? Is try that save all your important stuff wipe your phone completely and see how it runs.
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i have thought about that, read that others have done this..........i get a little nervous on things like this though. i have seen so many files and not sure what comes in the OS and what i ended up putting in there. whats ok to dump and whats not. or if i dump it all, will the necessities load back in with new ROM? honestly, i can get so nervous on what i consider a drastic move, i will say some very stupid things.
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You could try reverting to stock first, then installing 4.3.
My phone didn't like any custom roms besides padawan and I'm like wtf? One day I decided to use kies and blitz everything on my phone. Now I can flash any rom properly and don't have any issues. I also blitzed the memory card so everything was fresh.
Sorry to hear your troubles. Good luck!
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i have thought about both of these. i don't really consider this TROUBLES. not like i cant run any of these great ROM's on this excellent site. i cant eat caviar, but i am definitely NOT starving. i just cant seem to run 4.3. you think the flash counter has anything to do with??? i know, another dumb comment.
i suppose if something goes wrong, i have even better reasoning in convincing AT&T to allow me early upgrade............hmmmmmmmm.
can you say MMMMEEEEEGGGGAAAA ?
thanks guys, i appreciate the responses. will let ya know
I've ODIN'd back to stock several times when I start getting unusual problems. Very simple process actually and BlownFuze has a simple guide with the necessary files to download in his AOKP thread. Just save your music, pictures, ringtone, notification, SMS backup and download folder files and any other files you have added to phone storage to your PC. Flash back to stock, root and install TWRP then wipe everything including emmc and away you go. If you go into TWRP and mount your storage you'll find that the file transfer to and from the PC goes much faster. Hope this helps.
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I've ODIN'd back to stock several times when I start getting unusual problems. Very simple process actually and BlownFuze has a simple guide with the necessary files to download in his AOKP thread. Just save your music, pictures, ringtone, notification, SMS backup and download folder files and any other files you have added to phone storage to your PC. Flash back to stock, root and install TWRP then wipe everything including emmc and away you go. If you go into TWRP and mount your storage you'll find that the file transfer to and from the PC goes much faster. Hope this helps.
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i thank you for your feedback .i have returned to stock many times. it is the suggestion of clearing internal storage and deleting something vital. like going in for hangnail and removing the brain.
back on 4.2 until i get my ducks in a row and rehearse the process.
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i thank you for your feedback .i have returned to stock many times. it is the suggestion of clearing internal storage and deleting something vital. like going in for hangnail and removing the brain.
back on 4.2 until i get my ducks in a row and rehearse the process.
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Yeah, I know you make the rounds here and it always seemed like you know your stuff. I guess I didn't quite understand what you were asking.
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Yeah, I know you make the rounds here and it always seemed like you know your stuff. I guess I didn't quite understand what you were asking.
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i don't think we ever know as much as we want to know.
many times i tell folks to slow down, read and understand what you are doing. i try and do the same even on the most basic things. its when you get to comfortable that you make the dumbest mistakes. that's why i actually do kind of rehearse. i go through all the motions and my wife will even ask "who are you talking to?"
these devices are just too expensive to be careless. nobody is going to give me money or fix my phone for me.
I delete internal with every flash .. I do complete wipes every time haha
RoOtBoX4/20..4AcEs4/21..SpEcCd+RoBoToEd+ViPeRd. 2$HAYNE!!!
Cap, my wife has my Note now, but it's running the first nightly of official 10.2 with Jamie's uber kernel.
Now, I don't mess with the kernel or change anything....I run just like Jamie offers it. And I mainly use the kernel for the swipe2wake feature. I didn't experience any r/r's when I was using it and let me tell you, if my wife was having problems.....she would be *****ing my head off.....
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alright, so as I like to weigh my options, research and be confident.
I respect many opinions here and value experience. I agree that wiping the memory is probably not a bad idea. from what I gather, there are 2 ways to go about this..........
1. for arguments sake I will call it he manual way. where I need to move everything myself, either to SD or computer, wipe, then replace?
2. let KIES do all the work? honestly i have not used KIES in this type of situation.
will I need to root again or will it retain?
will KIES get a full erase as manual option my provide?
if I choose manual option how do I know I have moved ONLY my personal stuff and not a valuable part of the OS required for phone work after laying the ground to waste with napalm?
I can give anybody $500 or a brick, I don't need to make it myself
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alright, so as I like to weigh my options, research and be confident.
I respect many opinions here and value experience. I agree that wiping the memory is probably not a bad idea. from what I gather, there are 2 ways to go about this..........
1. for arguments sake I will call it he manual way. where I need to move everything myself, either to SD or computer, wipe, then replace?
2. let KIES do all the work? honestly i have not used KIES in this type of situation.
will I need to root again or will it retain?
will KIES get a full erase as manual option my provide?
if I choose manual option how do I know I have moved ONLY my personal stuff and not a valuable part of the OS required for phone work after laying the ground to waste with napalm?
I can give anybody $500 or a brick, I don't need to make it myself
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3. Let TWRP do it in recovery?
Sent from my big ass outlaw phone.
So I got given a lenovo tab the other day, i'm completely new to tablets and android software but it didn't take me long to fill up the native storage and this is where the program loophole began.
I had a few micro 32gb sdcards sitting around, so I did a speed check on them and put in the fastest one in the lenovo tab, after installing a good few programs which states they move programs to sdcards, which they do to a degree but nothing was better than the already built in move app to sdcard. I then found out about that to be able to take advantage of the sdcard fully, you need a rooted device.
This is where I found kingroot, which I then installed and started to use, after finishing up installing the standard health programs (antivirus, malware scanners etc), which flagged kinguser. After doing a bit of research about this program, I decided that I didn't feel safe using it, so I was looking around for alternatives.
I then found out, the program didn't like to be uninstalled so I started to use supersume pro, which did a good job removing kingroot but it didn't install super su as stated.
I am now in the process off trying to install twrp (which is proving to be more difficult than any other stage of this process), so i can then install super su, so i can use folder mount (this turned out to be the best program of them all imo), which in turn will allow me to use my sdcard.
This is where I am stuck, I have installed the drivers to pc, installed minimal adb and fastboot, also I have installed android studio. I have been able to use fastboot from the pc to send commands too the tablet but the bit that's confusing me is, how to tell the fastboot tablet to pull the twrp file from the sdcard ?
Or is there a vast simpler way of doing what I am trying to do, in the safest possible way.
tldr: What is the 'safest' way to root my tab for a newbie so i can use the sdcard fully at my discretion without being sent into a program loophole. Apologies for any bad grammar, it was never my strong point.
Nevermind, I managed to do it after 5 painstakingly days with hardly any sleep to rectify this issue, although I nearly bricked it in the process by installing the wrong twrp file but thankfully with all the info on this website, I have managed to undo all the problems and re root successfully and 'safely' using twrp and supersu zip as guided in another topic on this forum. So thanks to all developers and users, my tablet is now spyware and adware free for the most part.
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Nevermind, I managed to do it after 5 painstakingly days with hardly any sleep to rectify this issue, although I nearly bricked it in the process by installing the wrong twrp file but thankfully with all the info on this website, I have managed to undo all the problems and re root successfully and 'safely' using twrp and supersu zip as guided in another topic on this forum. So thanks to all developers and users, my tablet is now spyware and adware free for the most part.
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Can you provide a few more details? I'm trying to do the same thing here but didn't manage yet... Also didn't find any rooted roms yet. Help highly appreciated
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Can you provide a few more details? I'm trying to do the same thing here but didn't manage yet... Also didn't find any rooted roms yet. Help highly appreciated
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Hello... I do not know of your experience with android devices... But it probably will not help looking for "rooted roms"
Try googling "tb3-710f custom rom" or "tb3-710f stock rom" or "tb3-710f firmware".
If you are successful in finding firmware/rom then look for a guide to root. I myself have some experience, I will also see if I can assist you with more information through pm' s.
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.acy said:
Can you provide a few more details? I'm trying to do the same thing here but didn't manage yet... Also didn't find any rooted roms yet. Help highly appreciated
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Actually... take a look at https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/tb3-710i-tb3-710f-rom-stock-rom-lenovo-t3437810. @PhatBmt009 seems to have a collection of everything you might need to root in regards to your device. I did not go through the whole thread though to see if the process is explained.
Please take a look by yourself and hit PhatBmt009's thanks button if you find the information helpful.
Good luck!!! :good:
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Hello... I do not know of your experience with android devices... But it probably will not help looking for "rooted roms"
Try googling "tb3-710f custom rom" or "tb3-710f stock rom" or "tb3-710f firmware".
If you are successful in finding firmware/rom then look for a guide to root. I myself have some experience, I will also see if I can assist you with more information through pm' s.
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Actually... take a look at https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/tb3-710i-tb3-710f-rom-stock-rom-lenovo-t3437810. @PhatBmt009 seems to have a collection of everything you might need to root in regards to your device. I did not go through the whole thread though to see if the process is explained.
Please take a look by yourself and hit PhatBmt009's thanks button if you find the information helpful.
Good luck!!! :good:
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That is great advice, once you know for a fact you have the original firmware for you're device and learn how to use adb or fastboot, then you can start to play around a bit with some of the software. I probably went through about 50 websites absorbing as much info as I can and the rest comes with trial and error with a big fear off bricking the device and the only thing you can do to really brick it, is by corrupting the data to a point of not turning on, which is why I was learning on a cheap tab like the tb3, which is a great tab for the price.
In the end for me it was just a case off installing twrp, theres 3 variants here https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=80021 so massive props to Tzul, which then allowed me install supersu zip to root the device, how safe supersu is, I have no idea yet but so far its way safer than kinguser or one click root from what I have read.
Well now I am stuck and need professional advice, Last night, I don't remember what I was trying to do but in twrp I selected wipe davlik cache and wipe data (without knowing what it fully does, like a true noob mistake), this process took so long I fell asleep. I woke up this morning and the device was hanging on the boot screen. I did manage to take the battery out and reboot back into twrp mode which is enabling me to go back into the twrp menu and also fastboot if needed. So what can I do from here to reboot back into normal or do i need to flash the firmware ?. I don't mind losing all my data and starting from scratch but would be better if i didn't need to do that ofc, so any advice or help would be most welcome lol.
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Well now I am stuck and need professional advice, Last night, I don't remember what I was trying to do but in twrp I selected wipe davlik cache and wipe data (without knowing what it fully does, like a true noob mistake), this process took so long I fell asleep. I woke up this morning and the device was hanging on the boot screen. I did manage to take the battery out and reboot back into twrp mode which is enabling me to go back into the twrp menu and also fastboot if needed. So what can I do from here to reboot back into normal or do i need to flash the firmware ?. I don't mind losing all my data and starting from scratch but would be better if i didn't need to do that ofc, so any advice or help would be most welcome lol.
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Ooops... Anyway...
Did you at any point allow TWRP to make modifications to the system?? I found that when I did that on my device it totally destroyed partition structures and went into infinite boot loops.
Also while i was trying to fix any issues (pretty much like you right now though TWRP) I noticed that when I tried to flash either supersu or twrp again or something else, I was getting a ton of red system messages not being able to mount partitions.
If that is your case, unfortunately, you might need to re-flash...
You might want to also check here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/help/lenovo-tab-3-8-tb3-850f-unbrick-root-t3598727
After applying these steps, both superuser and TWRP have had no issues with anything!!! (fingers crossed, until today that is... )
Keep us informed, especially if you find a way to actually overcome this without flashing stock and doing everything from the beginning.
Good luck for now! :good:
Thanks I wish I saw you're thread before, it would have saved me a lot of time early on but, oh boy what a day I have had with this device today, I am not sure what I did to fix it but i basically did the same steps again to wipe the cache and clear the data within twrp then rebooted. What I didn't realize was in the process of disconnecting the battery, the case snapped off part of the sdcard (so to all noobs like me, MAKE SURE TO TAKE SDCARD OUT BEFORE TAKING CASE OFF) which in turn caused a short somewhere, the device started to get really warm and twrp was showing the cpu getting to 53c, I quickly dc the battery again and pulled the sdcard, I went and got a replacement card
After a succesful reboot, the device booted up as normal so a big phew there, now a lot of the apps/games that was previously installed and linked to the sdcard are having some difficulty re downloading and installing with a few errors, some have been succesful but now i'm wondering if a full wipe will be in order here ? as the internal storage is still showing only 1gb free but I also want to keep twrp and supersu.
The original thought process was using the least amount of internal storage as possible since I have a hi speed 64gb sdcard and some games apps was still taking up a lot off the 8gb internal space, as some didn't like a full link via apps2sd with the internal data but with the ones that was succesfull didn't have any noticable slow load times. I would like to keep the dalvik cache of all programs on the internal storage if this helps with speed ? or does that not matter.
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The original thought process was using the least amount of internal storage as possible since I have a hi speed 64gb sdcard and some games apps was still taking up a lot off the 8gb internal space, as some didn't like a full link via apps2sd with the internal data but with the ones that was succesfull didn't have any noticable slow load times. I would like to keep the dalvik cache of all programs on the internal storage if this helps with speed ? or does that not matter.
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Congrads on reviving the device!:good::good:
Out of the 8 Gigs, how much space does the whole system occupy? Did you try to remove bloatware? Did you use any similar app to root uninstaller to get rid of unwanted/ unused apps?
To my limited understanding it would require some extended knowledge in programming to re-assign partitions (ie cache) or making other than default partitions actually become the default partitions for any purpose.
Anyway... I can understand how 8Gigs internal storage can be limited... You can try:
1. Since you have custom recovery installed, 1st and most essential step is to make full backup of EVERYTHING! Just enter TWRP hit backup and choose EVERYTHING in the options of what to backup. This will most probably not destroy the communication between external SD and system (in regards to installed apps) the next time you might need a recovery (as long as you will not make changes to the SD card in the meanwhile).
Make the backup file to an external SD. I personally use a 16GB micro SD only for backing up purposes!!!
2. After you have everything in backup, install a program similar to root essentials or root uninstaller and try to get rid of anything you do not use. This might give the system some space to "breathe"...
Let me know. I got rid of a whole bunch of stuff out of my tb3-850f tablet and the system now 'rocks' (not to mention the extended battery life...)
You can even uninstall default apps like any default system picture viewer (that consumes space in your system) and install QuickPic from the/and to the SD card. Same with video player. Uninstall system video player and install something in the likes of MX Player from/and to the ext. SD. You can make a whole bunch of tweaks and uninstalling depending on your needs. I have even uninstalled most of Lenovo related apps.
Let me know how it goes. For some reason I think you are quite experienced and perhaps you knew all these already!?! Anyhow, let me know if I can be of more help.
This whole website has been a great help and helped me learn the process again, I do have extensive knowledge in hardware and overclocking, I'm just not so good with code, html is best i can do lol. Back in the day (almost 20 years), I dabbled a bit in unbricking (bricking) and flashing old phones, the process is fairly similar, it's just a few more programs but getting the right programs and the 'right firmware' is key here.
That's a good idea to get another sd card to save backups on and root essentials sounds like a worthy program to download. As with partition sizes and what data is stored where, is still a learning process for me atm, theres so much clutter aka bloatware, i'm not sure which is safe to uninstall, I will do a thread search to see.
I may start a new thread for this as this topic is solved now but I am also looking to get a rom or app so I can start to fine tweak the power and cpu/gpu usage but so far nothing I have noticed for the tb3 ***
If any mods come across this thread can turn it to solved, pls thanks I can't edit the header.
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Well now I am stuck and need professional advice, Last night, I don't remember what I was trying to do but in twrp I selected wipe davlik cache and wipe data (without knowing what it fully does, like a true noob mistake), this process took so long I fell asleep. I woke up this morning and the device was hanging on the boot screen. I did manage to take the battery out and reboot back into twrp mode which is enabling me to go back into the twrp menu and also fastboot if needed. So what can I do from here to reboot back into normal or do i need to flash the firmware ?. I don't mind losing all my data and starting from scratch but would be better if i didn't need to do that ofc, so any advice or help would be most welcome lol.
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Just factory reset because u never wipe Calvin cache remember that