Bit of a nooby question :silly: but i can't find the answer anywhere (or a straight one as i keep finding missing details). Does anyone one have a current full list of all phones that legitimately support the webtop application?
Any help would be appreciated regarding this.
Any Motorola smartphone with 1GB of RAM and HDMI output, there may be more but this should cover most if not all.
At&t
Atrix 4G
Atrix 2
Verizon
Droid Bionic
Droid Razr
Droid 4
Sprint
Photon
On Gingerbread Webtop is Ubuntu running on top of Android, but Webtop under ICS is just ICS in tablet mode.
Canocial/Ubuntu are working on their own version of Webtop that developers may be able to integrate into ROMs for any device someday once source code is out.
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I'm going to order the padfone tablet dock when its released to check and see if by default the razr ics webtop will automatically recognize the touchscreen. if so, i will modify the case for my RAZR. I'm sure since ics supports different resolutions, a generic dock should be released as an accessory for all ics devices. If the kernel needs to be modified to use the dock, hopefully someone will create a ROM with the mod. Ubuntu os with webtop is a flop idea, too slow and troublesome. Redirect effort towards this type of realization. One device, all form factors.
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Funny enough i was talking about this idea 2 days ago, I want to get a closer look at a padfone tablet section so i make it work with the ravr or us the idea to make a mold for the razr.
Problem is i dont think it's going to make it to the UK but i'll keep you all posted if i get my hands on it.
Hey guys, have a lot of questions, so bare with me.
Some background info, ive been with android since the droid 1, every single phone ive owned is rooted and had a custom rom. I am currently using a HTC Rezound with sense 4.0 as my phone. The Atrix 4G i am using is just a phone to play around with for me. The main purpose i bought it for, was to use it as a HDMI out entertainment hub. I also bought one of those Atrix Lapdocks, and wanted to make better use out of it then the portable LCD monitor i was using it for.
Right now im running NottachTrix4G 2.3.6 rom on the phone, Faux 1.3ghz kernel, along with the full GenTop2 webtop as well. At the moment, it is the full rom i am running, i haven't stripped anything yet but i do plan to since i don't need any of the mobile data/phone stuff, just wifi.
The first thing i did was i put the rom on, then got GenTop2 working. After that, i then tested the HDMI out separately to my hdtv. I noticed when i plugged in the HDMI out, the Gentoo login showed up till i changed it to hdmi mirroring on the phone. This was my first concern about how all of this functions.
My questions are as follows:
1 - Does webtop run the entire time the phone is on? I assumed that it wouldn't turn on till the MicroUSB host + hdmi both connect and then it fires up. It seems like i am wrong on this.
2 - Does having Gentop2 running the entire time hurt performance of the phone? My main usage of the device is either for the Gentop2 via the lapdock, or HDMI out mirror'd for Emulators (snes/nes/genesis/n64/PSX) which are all performance heavy and Netflix. I noticed things weren't as crispy and smooth via the hdmi out as they are on my HP touchpad, wondering if having webtop running is hurting performance.
3 - If having Gentop2 does hurt performance like i am suspecting, how does CM7/CM9 perform when it comes to HDMI mirror performance and emulators/netflix? I could dual boot via Boot Manager or even the 2 partition method i've seen in the Android Development forum for the atrix. That way i could have a Gentop2 setup via blur for the lapdock, and reboot into a different rom (either CM7/CM9/Blur but without webtop) for usage of HDMI out for a HDTV.
4 - Is there perhaps something better then the Gentop2 i am running? I went with that because its still being worked on and i liked the performance on it, but i would not mind having Ubuntu or Linux Mint instead. There is not much centralized info about Webtop flavors and comparisons, its very scattered and hard to know what is what.
Overall i absolutely love the device, pleased so much with it. Thanks.
1) X (and the webtop desktop) starts the first time the doc is plugged in and stays running. I beleive it detects the USB device ID but am not certain.
2) All X based webtops will take some resources, in particular RAM. This means your forground tasks will have less available for them. I beleive you can execute /etc/init.d/webtop-shutdown.sh to spin it back down. (Then maybe /usr/local/bin/webtop-restart if it will not start back on its own).
3) Mirror will not take resources AFAIK.
4) If your issue with Gentop2 is lack of functionality, there is a mod "Full Debian" or such that does a similar mod with a standard debien. There are also notes there and how to do a custom distro. Note that Gentop will be most efficient.
A couple side notes. The true webtop concept (an X based distro on the dock) might well be history. Moto is going to mirror + tablet mode in ICS and it will be a challange to keep the current stuff working from then on (unless somebody wants to stay with gingerbread).
I suspect from then on the ability to run X based linux applications will be via the vcn method. A "headless" linux distro is used with a vcn server and the 'droid vcn client is used to present the screen. This can be done now on gingerbread (some like it), but on ICS we need some help from moto on the drivers before we can get a decent enough resoloution to do that right.
I don't currently own a Webtop enabled phone but I have wanted one for a while now. I am on Sprint and have a SERO account which I would like to hang onto so when I heard about the Motorola Photon Q I watched it with a lot of interest. As more info kept being released I got more and more disappointed. Finally I noticed that the phone won't come with Webtop.
Seems strange considering it is going to be priced like a high-end phone yet it is missing a relatively important feature most high-end Motorola phones have. Even the Atrix HD won't have Webtop but according to Motorola they didn't include it to make the phone more cost effective.
So those 2 phones won't have Webtop but on top of that the lapdocks are being sold for really cheap yet there hasn't been any announcements of a successor or refresh. The last lapdock released, as far as I know, was the 500 Pro and that came out 8 months ago. It hasn't been a year yet but that is still a really long time without a refresh to a phone accessory.
I know it is a little too soon to tell if Webtop has been discontinued and we won't know for sure till Motorola comes out and confirms it but I was just curious what others thought about it.
Sorry if this has been discussed before but I did a search and couldn't find anything.
Android 4.0 doesn't use webtop anymore because it just switches into tablet mode when plugged into a tv or external monitor via hdmi.
As long as I can run my phone at higher resolution through an hdmi cable, who cares what they call it?
MrCavity said:
Android 4.0 doesn't use webtop anymore because it just switches into tablet mode when plugged into a tv or external monitor via hdmi.
As long as I can run my phone at higher resolution through an hdmi cable, who cares what they call it?
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Is it that way with all android phones using 4.0 that have video out? Thought most android phones that can do video out just did screen mirroring without switching to a tablet mode.
Anyways, the main reason I am interested in Webtop is because of the lapdock. I wouldn't use Webtop on a TV or monitor but the lapdock would be the sole reason for me wanting Webtop. I know I could get a cheap android tablet but I'd rather have a lapdock since it is laptop-like and it would contain everything on my phone. Don't really want 2 separate devices.
As far as I know the lapdock will only work with Motorola phones that have Webtop. Correction welcome if that assumption is wrong.
You don't have to do tablet mode, you can choose to just mirror your display.
The thing is that despite webtop was based on linux, you only had one desktop program, Firefox, and better resolution.
The only difference at ICS is that you will use either the android version of Firefox, or just the Chrome. It's a faster solution, but it lacks at the flash support part.
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No, sorry, thats not the only diffrrence!
Its much bigger. With the real Webtop you have got a real Linux system so you can use libreoffice, gimp and so on.
With tablet mode you have an fuc* android on an untouchable lapdock display.
With linux you can get n programs on the screen. With android you have only on. To change through the open programs, you get illness...
There re many differences!
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Okay just got a Lapdock 100 for moms droid RAZR, now RAZR has ICS official on it and web top 3 has lost Ubuntu.
My question:
Is there a 4.0 custom ROM that can downgrade web top to 2.0 so she can use Ubuntu to get a more PC experience. Or is there a custom web top 3 that allows for Ubuntu still being ran.
Thanks in advance. And I will give you thanks button props.
Hi Everyone,
I'm going to be purchasing an Unlocked Atrix 4G with the Lapdock for it.
The Atrix 4G runs Android 2.3, but can run Icecream Sandwhich and Jellybean using a Custom ROM.
I have a few questions which I've been looking to solve for some time now.
1) Does the Lapdock have HDMI Out, or just the phone? (And does the lapdock disable HDMI out?)
2) Does the Lapdock work Custom ROMs? (It'd be nice to use it with Android 4, rather than 2.3). I'd prefer WebTop but Mirroring is okay.
3) Do custom ROMs support the Motorola Travel Adapter Kit (Micro HDMI to VGA adapter for projectors, supports Atrix 4G)
Thanks!
Lyth said:
Hi Everyone,
I'm going to be purchasing an Unlocked Atrix 4G with the Lapdock for it.
The Atrix 4G runs Android 2.3, but can run Icecream Sandwhich and Jellybean using a Custom ROM.
I have a few questions which I've been looking to solve for some time now.
1) Does the Lapdock have HDMI Out, or just the phone? (And does the lapdock disable HDMI out?)
2) Does the Lapdock work Custom ROMs? (It'd be nice to use it with Android 4, rather than 2.3). I'd prefer WebTop but Mirroring is okay.
3) Do custom ROMs support the Motorola Travel Adapter Kit (Micro HDMI to VGA adapter for projectors, supports Atrix 4G)
Thanks!
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Any custom ROM with the 3.1.10 kernel does not have any HDMI access, and thus no mirroring as well.
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