OTA updates with ROOT? - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Ok, so I'm on the edge to root my Samsung Galaxy S3 (AT&T), but I have one concern. Jellybean is supposed to land on this phone in a month, and I was wondering that when I root my phone (no custom ROMs) can I update to jellybean OTA with the root, and have no problems?
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It's gonna be best to un-root before doing the eventual OTA update because it can play havoc with your phone otherwise.
If you stayed rooted and still done the OTA, the best case scenario is that it'll simply take your root status away, but it can cause more problem than simply that.
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What's worse case scenario? And it is usually easy to unroot
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I'm not too sure what the worst case scenario is, I just remember reading it not long ago.
I didn't word that last post too well to explain properly. If you're only rooted then you'll be fine to do the OTA. It's if you have CWM installed that errors can happen.
So, you're fine to root but you'll have to re-root once you've done the update.
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Ahhhh okay. So if I root and stay on stock ROM ( I'm not playing to put on any custom ROMs anytime soon) I can update OTA, and everything will go well, and then I'll just root again?
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It says I need to install CWM Recovery for the root
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iAndropple said:
Ahhhh okay. So if I root and stay on stock ROM ( I'm not playing to put on any custom ROMs anytime soon) I can update OTA, and everything will go well, and then I'll just root again?
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That's right yes.
What method are you planning on using to root?
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http://galaxys3root.com/galaxy-s3-r...gh-t999sgh-i747sph-l710-fail-proofnoob-proof/
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Many people run rootkeeper or the like to take OTA updates without issue. Haven't seen having root causing issues, just taking updates after erasing bloatware.

So if I root, I shouldn't have any problem updating to jellybean OTA?
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I'm pretty sure you will. I rooted my phone and couldn't do a OTA so I just went with a custom rom that updates. Best decision ever
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But what if I don't install any ROMs
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I'm sure the devs in your forum will offer a stock rooted ROM based off the OTA. So just keep your root and wait for them. Hell . They often release theirs before the official push.
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iAndropple said:
But what if I don't install any ROMs
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Trust me, you do. I think there's already JB for the galaxy s3 through a custom ROM.
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OK, so if I root, just root only.. no custom ROMs, nothing fancy, just being rooted, I won't be able to receive OTA updates at all?
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iAndropple said:
OK, so if I root, just root only.. no custom ROMs, nothing fancy, just being rooted, I won't be able to receive OTA updates at all?
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Some devs here are starting to work on their OTA updates for their ROMs. Otherwise, most devs here work at a much faster pace to release their updates than any manufacturer or carrier will.

So its impossible to straight up OTA from your device if your rooted with no ROMs installed?? I don't want to wipe out my data and restore my backup all for a "ROM" because I can't update legittimatly from the OTA server
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So its impossible to straight up OTA from your device if your rooted with no ROMs installed?? I don't want to wipe out my data and restore my backup all for a "ROM" because I can't update legittimatly from the OTA server<br />
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Its possible to receive ota updates... do it like this.. root your device.. don't remove bloatwares.. don't install custom kernel or rom.. then unroot your device before trying to use ota updates... it works for me.. so no worries..

nitubhaskar said:
Its possible to receive ota updates... do it like this.. root your device.. don't remove bloatwares.. don't install custom kernel or rom.. then unroot your device before trying to use ota updates... it works for me.. so no worries..
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Pretty much like this. But it makes rooting quite limited, so I don't see why you would go throught the hassle when a custom ROM is a waaayy better choice. Just my opinion, though
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Rookie Rooting Mistake...

So, I've rooted my SGS3 using the excellent toolkit, and installed CWM Touch recovery. However, when the newest OTA update appeared, I decided in my wisdom to install it, and reflashed the Stock recovery and then the update. All seemed fine, until I realised that my root was gone. In hindsight, I kind of knew this would happen, but a sleepless night must have clouded my judgement.
My question: is it possible to re-root the phone with the toolkit, or any other method? I think I remember seeing somewhere that this is not recommended, but wanted to see if anyone has any tips.
Thanks,
Erik N
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Where you get the info that is not recommended to reroot after OTA updates?
Just root it again using cf-root.
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Normal for users to root again.
jje
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Thank you both, I'll try re-rooting. I'm not sure where I saw that advice, pretty sure it wasn't in this forum, though. XDA trumps rumours any day!
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System update?

Did anyone else receive a system update? I had one waiting for install this morning.
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Did you install it? If so, notice any changes...New android version#...anything?
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I just checked and it said no update available.
05GT said:
Did anyone else receive a system update? I had one waiting for install this morning.
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I purchased the phone yesterday. So this may be an update that you guys already received.
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That's what it is...I just got the phone last Saturday so already had the update.
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I've already rooted/unlocked my phone, and I'm running the base ROM. Is it safe to install this update? I haven't seen anyone mention it, so I'm thinking it's probably alright. However, I figured it would be safer to ask anyway, given the "do not allow any OTAs to install without asking if they are compatible" warning in the FreeGee thread .
hassa9 said:
I've already rooted/unlocked my phone, and I'm running the base ROM. Is it safe to install this update? I haven't seen anyone mention it, so I'm thinking it's probably alright. However, I figured it would be safer to ask anyway, given the "do not allow any OTAs to install without asking if they are compatible" warning in the FreeGee thread .
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I don't think it will install if you're not on stock. I think the install will fail.
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I don't think it will install if you're not on stock. I think the install will fail.
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I see. So am I missing out on some major bug fixes or anything like that? Is there a changelog somewhere?
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Stock ota update deferred

I deferred the update until 2/25 the latest it would allow me to put it off. I eventually want to root and use a custom Rom I am coming from the Motorola droid x2 and CM7 and know nothing about HTC phones. Should I let the update go through or is there something I should do to stop it?
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If you haven't unlocked your bootloader and you let it go through then you will not be able to root your device for the time being.
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Root it now and update later
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kc9bvl said:
I deferred the update until 2/25 the latest it would allow me to put it off. I eventually want to root and use a custom Rom I am coming from the Motorola droid x2 and CM7 and know nothing about HTC phones. Should I let the update go through or is there something I should do to stop it?
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Do not allow the OTA to go thru. Root your phone and install the Mod by Justin (nitsuj) to get rid of the ota notification. If you want to root and not change your stock DNA it is possible. Then you can flash the custom rom of your choice later. My advice is to read up on all roms and kernels. How-to's before you root and make your decision on the best route to go. If you need help look for a RD/RC (Recognized Dev/Contributor) and some one will be happy to assist you. Or you can always post openly in the Q&A sections.
I have unlocked the BL installed cwm rooted and now have s-off what file do I need to stop the ota?
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kc9bvl said:
I have unlocked the BL installed cwm rooted and now have s-off what file do I need to stop the ota?
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There is a mod in the development section for this
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kc9bvl said:
I have unlocked the BL installed cwm rooted and now have s-off what file do I need to stop the ota?
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There's a thread in the dev forum.
And even if you don't block it. If it tries to install it it will not work.
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Bigandrewgold said:
There's a thread in the dev forum.
And even if you don't block it. If it tries to install it it will not work.
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So I really need to do nothing at this point?
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kc9bvl said:
So I really need to do nothing at this point?
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yea if you have a custom recovery it wont even install... i forgot about this part lol

Can't wait!

I'm new to rooting and I'm hooked. I did my nook color and my Nexus 7. I REALLY want to do my DNA. I can't wait for someone to figure out how to u lock the bootloader on the new update!
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If you're not on the latest OTA you can now ^^
Unless of course... it's too late ( for now )
Yeah... Is too late. I really started getting into it after I installed the OTA
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im sure there will be a way to root with new ota soon. then the addiction continues!
I really do feel the disappointment for all those that took the update. I would be pulling my hair out and cursing the heavens by now :silly:
Didn't take an OTA here.. unfortunately, mine shipped from Amazon with the update installed. So patiently I wait for our wonderful developers to get root for those of us late to the party.
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I wouldn't be so anxious to root the DNA.. I rooted mine the first day I got it and about 3 weeks ago had to unroot it just to apply the update that was released because I kept getting a screen popping up telling me to "Set a Date" to install the update, which was impossible to install with a rooted phone... so yea.. don't be so anxious ;x
JusDigital said:
I wouldn't be so anxious to root the DNA.. I rooted mine the first day I got it and about 3 weeks ago had to unroot it just to apply the update that was released because I kept getting a screen popping up telling me to "Set a Date" to install the update, which was impossible to install with a rooted phone... so yea.. don't be so anxious ;x
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Or you could have used an app to get rid of the OTA notifications for you, install a new kernel and ROM, radio and still be all the happier
UrGuardian999 said:
Or you could have used an app to get rid of the OTA notifications for you, install a new kernel and ROM, radio and still be all the happier
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Exactly
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JusDigital said:
I wouldn't be so anxious to root the DNA.. I rooted mine the first day I got it and about 3 weeks ago had to unroot it just to apply the update that was released because I kept getting a screen popping up telling me to "Set a Date" to install the update, which was impossible to install with a rooted phone... so yea.. don't be so anxious ;x
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Or you could of flashed a rom that was updated, or flashed a rom which disabled the ota, or flashed the package that disables the ota.
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I myself cannot wait to root and flash. I have had the phone for about a week now and it came updated. I am close to trading for a Note 2 or GS3 I'm so anxious hahaha. I will be patient though haha.
I'm on the same boat sucks to have no root for ota. Well unlocked bootloader actually.
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Unlocked bootloader with OTA? How so? I just want to root to remove/freeze bloatware. Flashing ROMs maybe eventually, but I think this phone is awesome out of the box.
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The issue with ota is unlocking the bootloader. We can't do it anymore with the new ota. In order to get root the bootloader needs to be unlocked so that we can flash a custom recovery and flash super user granting root. Without the bootloader we have nothing. The people working on getting the bootloader unlocked it is said they have root on ota but for us to get to that we need the bootloader unlocked.
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ickedmel said:
. The people working on getting the bootloader unlocked it is said they have root on ota but for us to get to that we need the bootloader unlocked.
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They've gotten temp root on boot, but haven't gotten it unlocked or s off
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Bigandrewgold said:
They've gotten temp root on boot, but haven't gotten it unlocked or s off
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Where can I follow the progress of this? Getting my phone with the OTA already installed, I'm really interested in this.
WizeGuyDezignz said:
Where can I follow the progress of this? Getting my phone with the OTA already installed, I'm really interested in this.
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Jcase's twitter. @teamandirc
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Jcase's twitter. @teamandirc
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Thanks I didn't know there was somewhere with info
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I am afraid we may be waiting a long time for this access............... :-/ ..........sigh, oh well my fault for accepting the update.
Well as far as I can see most are focused on HTC One....
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Warning

I have been reading thorough the returning to stock post in lg general Dev. A lot of people are softbricking or bootlooping by flashing OTA an edited recovery.
Before you flash any OTA you must return to stock.
Just a word of warning. If I'm misinformed someone please correct me but that's what I got from reading.
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I'm sure anyone that would be looking in the development threads would be looking for development so they might pass over this thread. In turn they will end up 'softbricking' their device because they didn't return to stock before hand.
You should have posted this is the correct place.
Now everyone's phones are going to be messed up.
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It was mostly just so people see it here if they aren't surfing other threads
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stuck on recovery
I just stuck on recovery after OTA, now I guess I have to unroot?, what that OTA does anyway? I was looking for more information but there is nothing out yet
Go look at the returning to stock post in general section. There is more instruction there.
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Demonlinx said:
Go look at the returning to stock post in general section. There is more instruction there.
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if you can get in recovery, you are fine. Just have to clear some files and it will boot fine. It's "soft bricked" because it keeps trying to apply the OTA.
Sprint has an OTA?
raulberry said:
I just stuck on recovery after OTA, now I guess I have to unroot?, what that OTA does anyway? I was looking for more information but there is nothing out yet
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If you have a nandroid backup, you should restore it. As soon as you restore it, you should flash back to stock. Then after your phone is clean, take the OTA and then root.
riggsandroid said:
if you can get in recovery, you are fine. Just have to clear some files and it will boot fine. It's "soft bricked" because it keeps trying to apply the OTA.
Sprint has an OTA?
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I'm not sure I've just seen lg in general has had updates being pushed.
However if we are on stock rooted ROM, shouldn't we be able to push the OTA? I'm not that versed in this.
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Demonlinx said:
I'm not sure I've just seen lg in general has had updates being pushed.
However if we are on stock rooted ROM, shouldn't we be able to push the OTA? I'm not that versed in this.
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Safe thing to do is to always flash back to stock to avoid any issues.
EDIT: Don't quote me on this but according to a Sprint G2 user in the thread below that if you have the stock recovery and didn't flash TWRP, you should be able to take the OTA without having to flash back to stock.
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/4886-lg-g2-users-thread/?p=249338
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Safe thing to do is to always flash back to stock to avoid any issues.
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Sounds good.
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Yeah anyone that's going to be modding phones should get used to not accepting ota updates, luckily it doesn't take long until roms are updated
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kc3 said:
Yeah anyone that's going to be modding phones should get used to not accepting ota updates, luckily it doesn't take long until roms are updated
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So will updated Roms include ota data?
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Lol I imagine that depends on the rom developer, if not than a rom will eventual get released with the newest software, always a matter of time
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So if I'm rooted and on the stock ROM I just accept the OTA and install? Then just re-root?
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o0adam0o said:
So if I'm rooted and on the stock ROM I just accept the OTA and install? Then just re-root?
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Yes, assuming you have stock recovery and not TWRP.
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Yes, assuming you have stock recovery and not TWRP.
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Thanks!
Yup on stock recovery right now . Gonna hold off tho because I've been reading that someone is making an update we can flash over top with TWRP. I'll just figure out what I want to do once everything is clear and settled. I'd love some better/stronger signal.
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o0adam0o said:
Thanks!
Yup on stock recovery right now . Gonna hold off tho because I've been reading that someone is making an update we can flash over top with TWRP. I'll just figure out what I want to do once everything is clear and settled. I'd love some better/stronger signal.
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If you find the update to flash with twrp please post link here for us. Thanks. I've heard about it but cannot find anything else out
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Good Info
Thanks for the post. I myself was applying the software downloads for my D800 At&t Variant. I am currently stuck right now and your explanation helps make a little sense of what is happening to my phone. I was stuck at the cm boot animation and tried to do a wipe and restore and a bunch of other stuff and nothing was working. Decided to flash back using the software from that thread, however the flash was listed as successful, but upon getting to the main screen of the os, keyboard doesn't come up, no signal or wifi, then after a minute or two the phone will just reboot. My thoughts are either that I have the OTA software missing key components from the original stock, or my efs is shot, in which case I am concerned. Just got this phone and would love to fix it. I will hunt for original software.
I had done a full lg stock backup through CWM and then exported that to my computer. Would that contain my efs info?
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