Light sensor in mini pro - what the hell is this? - Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A

can anyone tell me what the duck is that thing installed in my mini pro that is supposed to be a light sensor? it does control the brightness level depending on ambient light, but it doesn't work with apps that allow you to change brightness according to your own rules. I've tried Lux Auto Brightness and it acts as if the phone didn't have any light sensor, but when I go to service menu and test the sensor, it does react. so what's going on there?

Sloppy implementation, I guess.
Why are you trying to use third-party software for it?

Most of 3rd party test service shows LIGHT SENSOR,the mini pro have AMBIENT LIGHT SENSOR.Both act same,but different driver and name
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Pixelado said:
Sloppy implementation, I guess.
Why are you trying to use third-party software for it?
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I have a feeling that Lux does better job (even though I set it to measure light via front cam).
UchihaDareNial said:
Most of 3rd party test service shows LIGHT SENSOR,the mini pro have AMBIENT LIGHT SENSOR.Both act same,but different driver and name
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ohhhh, thanks now to find something that uses this stuff. thank you Sony for complicating my live!

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[Q] Flickering screen each time screen is turned on.

Hello, I just updated my mini to the latest 4.0.A.2.377 firmware, and now each time I wake it up from locked the screen is flickering a little, really annoying..
Anyone else has the same problem?
Update:
The screen doesn't flicker at all when connected to a charger. Obviously then this must be a software problem and not hardware. Does anyone have any thoughts or experiences?
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Yes same here. But it so happens when I'm in a low-light environment.
This is normal I guess
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No it's not normal. It wasn't like this before, it started after I updated..
It doesn't bother me at all, that's why I never noticed it before I've updated it.
Ffs...
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I try Z DeviceTest an the app say there was no lightsensor. Its thats the reason for flickering? No driver for the lightsensor or anything else?
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Ffs...
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What's the problem??
I noticed the flickering when I set the display brightness to a low level (<50%) and whenever the screen adjusts to the background light so it seems to be caused by the light sensor...
Yeah but my screen also flickers when the phone is locked and turned off and you press home button to wake it and the first second its awake the screen goes from full brightness to non and back to full again. This wasn't there before :/
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Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini Pro
Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini Pro
The brightness of the screen is very normal, and the absence of an ambient light sensor is a disappointment – the brightness requires a manual adjustment every time you go out.
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Taken from here
And also SE support center confirmed that it does not have a Ambient Light Sensor.
Then it would seem very stupid to have autobrightness as default and no option to turn it off if the phone doesn't have a light sensor.. Hope they add that option in a future update!
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Use power widget and turn off auto brightness. It will not flicker a lot like before. I used this on my mini.
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According to SE support, this is a common problem unfortunately..
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harman_preet72 said:
Use power widget and turn off auto brightness. It will not flicker a lot like before. I used this on my mini.
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Tried that, no dice. I only really see the flicker on a full white screen.
Mike
It does have a light sensor. I just read the manual and it says so.
Page 14
"Your phone includes a light sensor and a proximity sensor. The light sensor detects the ambient light level and adjusts the brightness of the screen accordingly."
prinzhernan said:
It does have a light sensor. I just read the manual and it says so.
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"Your phone includes a light sensor and a proximity sensor. The light sensor detects the ambient light level and adjusts the brightness of the screen accordingly."
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According to a couple different sensor detecting programs, there is no light sensor. Maybe the sensor is defective?
Mike
This is normal. To people who got annoyed by this it's your problem not SE
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What is people smoking?
Of course there's a light sensor, why else would the screen dim up/down at all?!
As for the app not seeing the sensor, my guess would be that the sensor's just made differently or actually being in direct circuitry with the screen/backlight, and the two are recognized as one.
I haven't heard anything on the subject, but i would imagine that it's fixed in the next update (2.3.4).
Any fix for this?

How to enable auto brightness on Xperia Ray?

I found that Xperia Ray have Ambient light sensor from the white paper, but i can't use it on stock roms or CM7, can someone enable this?
this is the link of white paper
http://dl-www.sonyericsson.com/cws/download/1/997/193/1308295710/ray_WP_1.pdf
thanks!
Good question!
I also found in the whitepapers that the Xperia mini pro (sk71i) has the same ambient light sensor but when I check with android tools like "Sensor List" the only thing that could match is the Proximity sensor. That one goes from 1 to 0 if you get close to the top (blocking the light?).
APDS9702 Proximity
The sensor is enabled by default
how? i can't feel that
With my HTC Desire Z I had the "auto brightness" option. On this one I don't. Are you sure it is enabled? Do you have any clue what sensor it would be in the list of for example android app "sensors list".
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how? i can't feel that
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As of Stock Rom 2.3.3 and 2.3.4 there is no 'auto brightness' option.
But the ambient light sensor is always working.
If you take it outside in bright sunlight, you will notice that the screen automatically gets brighter. That's how you can tell the sensor is always on
I assume they haven't put auto brightness in as a feature because maybe some people want to save battery/adjust their screen brightness for indoor use.
But when the surrounding light passes some threshold (ie, outside), the auto brightness feature overrides your user settings...
thanks.....so, can i make a option for this?
xutienan9520 said:
thanks.....so, can i make a option for this?
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No, there's no select-able option for it. It's always on.
check "brightness level" widget in android market. I just added to my desktop and it has an autolevel option. Seems to work. But I can't say if it's really off when you select only a percentage.
LOL! Check some of the newer topics. Many users want to disable the auto brightness. The topics have some info for rooted users. But as said it seems to be enabled by default.
It's not linked to the 2.3.3 update though. My desire Z also had that Android version and still provided the auto brightness option in the display menu.
It also seems to be the reason of the flickering screen on low backlight setting. That is in fact annoying.
So, how can i disable the sensor? I want my screen always to be bright, i hate this auto adjusting
FreeZr said:
So, how can i disable the sensor? I want my screen always to be bright, i hate this auto adjusting
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See this [HOWTO] disable ambient light sensor for LCD in xperia mini. It might work on Ray too.
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See this [HOWTO] disable ambient light sensor for LCD in xperia mini. It might work on Ray too.
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Thanks. I wanna keep my warranty though
If there is a light sensor on my ray then it must be disabled.
Mine does not react to any changes in light at all - even if I manually cover the whole of the top of my phone in my fist.
I also find that the screen is odd outside in the sun. It looks exactly the same if it's set to 25% brightness or 100% brightness (both are just as easy to see). I can only notice a difference in brightness when i'm indoors or if it's dull and cloudy.
FYI i'm on 4.0.A.2.368 - 2.3.3
chancooluk said:
If there is a light sensor on my ray then it must be disabled.
Mine does not react to any changes in light at all - even if I manually cover the whole of the top of my phone in my fist.
I also find that the screen is odd outside in the sun. It looks exactly the same if it's set to 25% brightness or 100% brightness (both are just as easy to see). I can only notice a difference in brightness when i'm indoors or if it's dull and cloudy.
FYI i'm on 4.0.A.2.368 - 2.3.3
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That's not good!
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Screen Auto Brightness is not working on my Xperia Ray too.. I don't know why this feature was disabled... I tested light sensor and that works but brightness never changes... Is it because of old 2.3.3 firmware i have ? I didn't update to latest yet..
I don't know if it's just me but sometimes my screen kind of flickering.
Is it true that it's because of the light sensor just too sensitive?
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zigma80 said:
I don't know if it's just me but sometimes my screen kind of flickering.
Is it true that it's because of the light sensor just too sensitive?
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Yeps. I have the same -.-
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If there is a light sensor on my ray then it must be disabled.
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For me,Xperia Ray owner are very lucky.
Because the light sensor is implemented very bad on Xperia Mini for example.
The screen flickering and your eyes cry. : (
zigma80 said:
I don't know if it's just me but sometimes my screen kind of flickering.
Is it true that it's because of the light sensor just too sensitive?
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Yes,is a very boring problem.
The Xperia Mini has two big problem.
-Touchscreen lag
-Flickering screen
Check out this post on the Xperia Arc - works great just the same for the Xperia Ray. Also the linked program well depicts the relation ambient light value, brightness setting and the resulting screen brightness.

[Q] Auto Brightness (light sensor) settings file

Hi All,
Could you please point me on the file that has settings for auto brightness? I want to increase the range, the stock one is almost unnoticeable.
Thanks in advance!
Xperia S does not have auto brightness in both Gingerbread or ICS.
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Xperia S does not have auto brightness in both Gingerbread or ICS.
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What you are saying? Sure that Xperia S have auto brightness ! You probably are not able to set it :laugh:
It has auto brightness xD
Try to buy some glasses...
But without custom rom or app you cannot control it.
Cyanogen mod or app ( widgetsoid) can control it very easy.
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It has auto brightness. You can go to the Service menu, Sensors section and there you will find Light sensor, there you will see its current values, as far as I remember they are 0..12 or so, but that doesn't really matter, I want to find where the dependency between Light sensor value and brightness is coded.
You should ask some rom dveloper for some info :-/
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It has auto brightness, but only the smarts can see
I found this useful post.
In ICS we have it in /system/etc/als_curve and there we have 4 folders: 0, 1, 2 and 3 with limits and parameters. I assume these are 4 zones of brightness (0-25% on folder 3, 25-50% in 2, 50-75% in 1 and 75-100% in 0).
We have to change the parameters, as in the post I referred, but personally I didnt understand almost anything, so we need to try... If someone will be trying too, let me know your results!
I have found an easy way to set auto brightness and it works beautifully:
Download and install quick settings.
When you are in quick settings, tap "customize", tap the small tool icon next to brightness, and you will be asked whether to enable light sensor.
Once enabled, you will be able to use auto brightness through quick settings app.
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Why couldn't they just add the option into the settings like everyone else??? Is it really that hard?
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That is their style.
Go and send them mail to change it.
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zeefung said:
I have found an easy way to set auto brightness and it works beautifully:
Download and install quick settings.
When you are in quick settings, tap "customize", tap the small tool icon next to brightness, and you will be asked whether to enable light sensor.
Once enabled, you will be able to use auto brightness through quick settings app.
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It is enabled by default even without 3rd-party apps. The reason of all this is to make its range bigger, more noticeable.
Hayden18 said:
Why couldn't they just add the option into the settings like everyone else??? Is it really that hard?
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I also really don't understand why Sony cannot put this option just in the brightness settings.... I have had a long time thought that the SXS doesn't have auto brightness at all but dunno that its in fact hidden somewhere which can be called out easily by a 3rd party app !
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It does have auto brightness, it just works a little different from what we're used to so far. You can find the brightness control in Settings->Display->Brightness (at least that's where you find it in Gingerbread). Now, the thing that creates so much confusion, is that this control shouldn't be called Brightness, but Visibility. What the phone does (and imo this is really clever), is that you move the slider to adjust the visibility of the screen best suited for your eyes and then the phone will automatically adjust the amount of light the LEDs glow using an intrinsic curve so that the same visibility is provided outdoors and indoors. You can test this. Set the slider halfway and then go outside, in the sun, and cover and uncover the light sensor a few times. You will see that the screen is dimmed and brightened up while you do that as the phone tries to maintain it's visibility to the setpoint you chose by moving the slider. Simple and clever, huh? What some may argue, is that the brightness variation is not aggressive enough, and they may have a point. Personally, I don't need to move the slider more than 20%, as the screen is perfectly visible even on a sunny day (of course, that is unless the sun directly reflects in the screen, but I found this happens only if you hold your phone on purpose and it is not a comfortable position).
Hello,
In my lt26w there is no Visibility submenu. But it looks like the application "quick settings" has make a trick.
Best Regards,
Vlad

[Q][U] Auto Brightness

Hi.
Could it be that auto brightness feature isn't working properly on XU?
I have a feeling display always has same brightness regardless light or daylight or night.
Is there a way to test the sensor?
Thx
Yep, put your brightennes to 50% and then light your sensor with sone light or lighter close enought, sensor from your left side of speaker.
P.S as far as i noticed on this xperia sensor work only to get your screen more brightennes and not to reduce it
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AndroSensor app says the phone did not have a light sensor??
You its working I tried a sensor control aplication(i dont rember the app name but it is controledy phone when I moved my hand upper the sensor)
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The sensor works, the autobrightness no
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Autobrightness works fine, Sony just implements it differently. Choose a brightness level, now this brightness is going to be the minimum the screen will go to. If you go outside or are in a room with bright light it will adjust by raising the level but never go below the minimum you have set. The autobrightness is actually really good the way it works, i have great sun legibility. Hope this helps you.
But why apps like sensor test say there us no light sensor?
maybe new sensor ....
How many apps have you tried?
Androsensor and Sensor test.
The dial *#*#7... Dont have number in mind says sensor is working
Im on KA03
*#*#7378423#*#* reference is the word *#*#Service#*#*
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[Q] Xperia Active questions

So I've used the search bar and google
there are 4 circles at top
1. Ambient Light sensor
2. LED notification lights
3. ???
4. Proximity Sensor
so whats in between the earpiece and proximity sensor
also why dont apps recognize the ALS? I've used android sensor box, androsensors and my android sensors but still nothing. Though auto brightness works. I know, I move my finger over it and the screen gets dim
z50j said:
So I've used the search bar and google
there are 4 circles at top
1. Ambient Light sensor
2. LED notification lights
3. ???
4. Proximity Sensor
so whats in between the earpiece and proximity sensor
also why dont apps recognize the ALS? I've used android sensor box, androsensors and my android sensors but still nothing. Though auto brightness works. I know, I move my finger over it and the screen gets dim
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The last 2 sensors are for proximity i guess, cause even on my mini pro i have 2 circles for proximity. In the stock rom, it is never detected, its on by default. In roms like cm10, CM10.1 etc. you can choose whether to use it or not, change the different levels etc.
Well in mini pro its
Led, ambient sensor, camera, proximity.
Tbh, I think I have seen two dots instead of one for sensor. (Really hard to see)
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N
mnishamk said:
Well in mini pro its
Led, ambient sensor, camera, proximity.
Tbh, I think I have seen two dots instead of one for sensor. (Really hard to see)
Regards
N
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Yep there are two sensors for proximity.
why are there 2 sensors for proximity? using the sensor apps I've noticed that only that the right most works the 3rd one doesnt really do anything when i cover it. but it works so I'm fine with that
but how come the apps dont detect the ambient light sensor? that too is obviously working because the screen dims when i hover over it
Try using the service menu and see if it works there
Regards
N
mnishamk said:
Try using the service menu and see if it works there
Regards
N
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I did, it doesnt

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