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This is a normal usage test I was doing on both the tablets I got for early xmas gifts
Since I don't need two, I was trying to decide which one to keep.
Notes:
Transformer Prime is running on normal mode, full brightness (super ips mode off).
Both tablets are running the same version of GO Launcher EX and the same live wallpaper.
The Prime shipped with non-working GPS, a piece of dust inside the screen right above the docking port. It also has screen bleed that is very noticeable during boot screen and is some-what noticeable during normal use (its right above dock port on the status bar.).
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HP Touchpad is running full brightness.
The Touchpad has very minor screen bleed which is barley noticeable during boot screen and not noticeable at all during use.
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I recorded my experience on video.
http://youtu.be/-DGnI4Lx91M
Good show. Looks like $99 was a better deal so far... I'm sure once seven get their hands on the prime, she will sing. But HP isn't doing too bad for non native android running on it...
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think long term potential on the prime v. the touchpad especially when ICS and custom roms come out for the Prime..the Beast will be unleashed (quadcore to its full potential)
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Good luck finding a touchpad for 99 dollars :/
ickkii said:
Good luck finding a touchpad for 99 dollars :/
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That's the thing, the price comparison is rather disingenuous. If you managed to get one for that, it was an amazing deal and it'll be a long time before anything will beat it on value. But you can't go out to a store now and buy one, and that was never the intended price - a deal like that isn't likely to be coming around again any time soon.
It looks pretty competitive with the Prime on those tasks you showed, although there has to be some advantage running CM7 compared to the Prime's almost brand-new Honeycomb firmware; we'll have to see how the Prime develops with ICS and, hopefully, custom ROMs, as it surely has more power under the hood if it can bring that to bear.
Specific issues aside, I think a lot of the disappointment around this tablet is coming from those who already have a decent dual-core tablet (especially if it was bought at an unbelievably good price..!) and were expecting the Prime to be dramatically faster out of the box. It remains to be seen whether quad-core tablets will "age" slower than dual-core ones, as I've experienced on the desktop, but I consider the quad-core an investment in the future more than anything else. Quad-core SoCs will surely start to take over at the high-end in time, and then more optimisations will be made for them when they do. I wouldn't upgrade from this year's dual-cores to Tegra 3, though - those devices are still decent, and if you already have a good tablet it makes more sense to hang on to that at the moment and see what comes around next year.
Apples to Oranges. You're comparing an overclocked custom kernel, on a custom ROM (CM7...that is unmatched in speed by any and all stock ROMs out there), on a tablet bought at fire-sale prices...to the Prime purchased at full retail price, running a stock kernel/ROM, running an aftermarket launcher that's slower than pond water on the Prime (stock HC is light-years faster) and say the Prime doesn't measure up.
There is a serious issues of validity in your "experiment".
Edit: please don't try to take this as me blindingly defending the Prime. I'm just trying to keep invalid misinformation to be taken as "word of god" as it often happens on the internet.
seriously man, at this point im getting really sick of you, every thread you go in all you talk about is your damn touchpad and how crappy the prime is, if thats the case fine, sell the prime and keep your touchpad...but leave these forums and go troll in the touchpad one
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seriously man, at this point im getting really sick of you, every thread you go in all you talk about is your damn touchpad and how crappy the prime is, if thats the case fine, sell the prime and keep your touchpad...but leave these forums and go troll in the touchpad one
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Totally agree.
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jzen said:
i was not impressed with the primes hardware, software or screen. IMO my HP Touchpad runs better, good roms and screen colors are better.
selling it. dont become negative this is just my conclusion after testing each side by side. the primes price makes it not worth it to me considering the HP Touchpad does everything I would use the prime for but better and it was $300 cheaper.
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Just sell it and go to the Touchpad forums?
Look, I've got issues with my prime too. But we all know this comparison is a little bit sneaky. It's like taking an underpowered econo car that the dealership is trying to get rid of and throwing twin turbos on it - yup, it'll probably beat some high-powered coupes off the show room floor, and most of us might be happy with that. But deep down inside you know it's a pretty stupid comparison.
Just give the prime some time.
lol at this!
come on this is a blatant touchpad fan boy post.
having a CM7 custom ROM vs stock first revision of ROM on a tablet that's been out since last week.
lmao, so many people get butt hurt over it... (calm down, its just a side by side comparison of the two devices I have)
The bottom line is that the prime has 5 cores, the touchpad has 2 cores but according to setcpu its only using 1 of its cores.
And also the prime seems to be shipping with many nasty defects (for $499 you wouldn't expect that) where the touchpad didnt have any (except for a tiny amount of light bleed).
I decided to keep both devices. Touchpad for development and the prime for gaming (although right now it cannot play too many games, but im sure it will change in the future.).
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And also the prime seems to be shipping with many nasty defects (for $499 you wouldn't expect that) where the touchpad didnt have any (except for a tiny amount of light bleed).
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How do you know the Touchpad had very little issues? you bought it at $99, way late in the game. Ask the people who paid $499 for the 32GB when it first came out. Most of the original issues have been resolved over time. Search the web and see, the touchpad had many issues in its infancy. The Prime is in it's infancy but will grow up to be a great BIG BOY!
My Touchpad has many issues in both webOS and CM7.. CM7 alpha 3.5 was working fine but now it stutters and force closes a lot.. for the webOS.. the damn thing just keeps disconnecting from the my router at random times and the only way for me to get it working again is to reboot the Touchpad.. I got it for my son to play with but he's gotten frustrated with it and steals my Transformer to play with.
There are some issues and quirks I can live with. My son can do so as well. The Touchpad has issues that gets him too frustrated though and he's usually one to tell me anything can be fixed
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lmao, so many people get butt hurt over it... (calm down, its just a side by side comparison of the two devices I have)
The bottom line is that the prime has 5 cores, the touchpad has 2 cores but according to setcpu its only using 1 of its cores.
And also the prime seems to be shipping with many nasty defects (for $499 you wouldn't expect that) where the touchpad didnt have any (except for a tiny amount of light bleed).
I decided to keep both devices. Touchpad for development and the prime for gaming (although right now it cannot play too many games, but im sure it will change in the future.).
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Congratualtions, you successfully gimped the prime with go launcher.
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@OP how come my stock browser on prime is running fluid with just a settings mod and your touchcrap needs CM 7 with overclocked processor to achieve the same.
people are not but hurt you infantile.
your showing a highly custom ROM well into the devices launch when they had time to work on it verses a brand new tablet which has had zero time for devs to work on it.
Just sell your TP and then go with your touchpad....It's that plain and simple! Have a nice day and please stay out of the TP section
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Apples to Oranges. You're comparing an overclocked custom kernel, on a custom ROM (CM7...that is unmatched in speed by any and all stock ROMs out there), on a tablet bought at fire-sale prices...to the Prime purchased at full retail price, running a stock kernel/ROM, running an aftermarket launcher that's slower than pond water on the Prime (stock HC is light-years faster) and say the Prime doesn't measure up.
There is a serious issues of validity in your "experiment".
Edit: please don't try to take this as me blindingly defending the Prime. I'm just trying to keep invalid misinformation to be taken as "word of god" as it often happens on the internet.
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good points. plus I stopped watching his video after the opera mobile comparison. I counted down how long it took for each to first show something on page and then finish completely loading the page. his touchpad clearly showed it was the loser in that comparison. took almost double the time of prime to fully load that web page on his touchpad. prime was also faster on showing something from page on screen first. same with his Netflix comparison. I loved how he gave his touchpad a few seconds to load and start scrolling vs. the prime which he started scrolling immediately..lol. touchpad failed in that comparison also. even with him giving the touchpad a lil more time to load, prime still showed more on screen first and loaded movies up faster. the touchpad had a bunch of gray squares when first loaded and took longer to fully load all the movies on-screen. as far as his UI scrolling goes, looks to me that prime performed just fine. there where even instances on his touchoad where his taps or scrolls didn't immediately register and looked laggy. touchpad for 99 is a great deal, hands down. but its in no way competition to the prime, on any front.
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Prime touchpad blah blah blah... As far I can use the touchpad for all my task I want from a tablet and smooth. Who care about 5 core. I bet the ipad is best, because of the more than 10 cores lol.
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How do you know the Touchpad had very little issues? you bought it at $99, way late in the game. Ask the people who paid $499 for the 32GB when it first came out. Most of the original issues have been resolved over time. Search the web and see, the touchpad had many issues in its infancy. The Prime is in it's infancy but will grow up to be a great BIG BOY!
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Congratualtions, you successfully gimped the prime with go launcher.
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@OP how come my stock browser on prime is running fluid with just a settings mod and your touchcrap needs CM 7 with overclocked processor to achieve the same.
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people are not but hurt you infantile.
your showing a highly custom ROM well into the devices launch when they had time to work on it verses a brand new tablet which has had zero time for devs to work on it.
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Just sell your TP and then go with your touchpad....It's that plain and simple! Have a nice day and please stay out of the TP section
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all this is too funny. I will admit for only 99 that touchoad is a good device, it looks like. the comparisons to Prime though falls very short for several reasons.
I didn't get a "perfect" transformer prime (one dead pixel and no gps) but I am extremely satisfied with my purchase. The ui is fast, everything opens up in a second, the video streaming on youtube/veetle (app)/imdb (app) is ridiculously smooth, the sound quality is loud and clear, the build is very sturdy... i could go on and on.
If you were thinking about getting one but got deterred by some of the posts on here, remember that we are early adopters. imperfections are what we put up with to be the first kids on the block with these amazing tablets. The people that are having issues are a minority: we only post to complain, never to praise. its human nature.
Day one 3g xoom owner. Talk about early adopters... anyway OP is correct. Your prime is pimp and patience is a virtue
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s1lenz said:
I didn't get a "perfect" transformer prime (one dead pixel and no gps) but I am extremely satisfied with my purchase. The ui is fast, everything opens up in a second, the video streaming on youtube/veetle (app)/imdb (app) is ridiculously smooth, the sound quality is loud and clear, the build is very sturdy... i could go on and on.
If you were thinking about getting one but got deterred by some of the posts on here, remember that we are early adopters. imperfections are what we put up with to be the first kids on the block with these amazing tablets. The people that are having issues are a minority: we only post to complain, never to praise. its human nature.
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Problems on new releases are a must have. You'd be hard pressed to find any product with a smooth predictable release. I'm personally glad you guys bit the bullet for the rest of us to figure out whether we should buy in now or wait. The device is still very attractive. With the feature set the Transformer Prime offers, you're not going to find much better elsewhere any time soon.
However, I am incredibly upset with ASUS and their response to these complaints about buggy software, faulty design, and inoperable components. They have no right changing the feature set to suit what is currently "working," so they can avoid fixing it. I hope they wise up, otherwise people that are waiting to purchase when the bugs are worked out, like myself, might just wait until some other manufacturer delivers on our needs.
Whether or not people who are having issues are a minority, I'm afraid that the Prime has a greater percentage of problems than most devices. Say 35% of people may have problems (edit: this is of course a hypothetical number), and that would technically be a minority, but its still a huge problem and greater than what most other devices have. Its just my personal opinion that some of the Primes problems boil down to design faults rather than QC (while other issues definitely are QC).
Go for the Prime if you really want it. I highly suggest you take a purchasing route that allows you to easily get your money back in case you get a defective unit, though.
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s1lenz said:
I didn't get a "perfect" transformer prime (one dead pixel and no gps) but I am extremely satisfied with my purchase. The ui is fast, everything opens up in a second, the video streaming on youtube/veetle (app)/imdb (app) is ridiculously smooth, the sound quality is loud and clear, the build is very sturdy... i could go on and on.
If you were thinking about getting one but got deterred by some of the posts on here, remember that we are early adopters. imperfections are what we put up with to be the first kids on the block with these amazing tablets. The people that are having issues are a minority: we only post to complain, never to praise. its human nature.
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thanks, this thread was needed. Prime will still blow any other tablet away right now. even with its issues affecting some users. I'm just glad I didn't get a defective device with some of these issues people been describing. that's what so crazy about it. I've been here since 12/22 perfectly enjoying my experience with the Prime. haven't even touched my Ipad since. most of the stuff I had on Ipad I went on and got for Android. experience is night n day better than on my Ipad. Tegra3 is a beast!
Well, I will wait and see the upcoming fresh batch with ICS. Probably ASUS will fix the back with some plastic patches to improve the WiFi and GPS, or totally redesign it.
Also to watch whats on CES and February Mobile World.
Glad that I live in Europe, The Prime has not been released here. Otherwise I would jump to preorder and end up disappointed.
Oh well, my Galaxy Nexus is big enough as mini tablet, and I can use my wife iPad2 .
I have to say i had a few bugs with mine but gps locks right away and i have no dead pixels or bleeding etc... My problem was when it brought in restore from my phone an app was causing reboots and lag. I factory reset and started from scratch and now this thing is beast. I wouldn't trade this for and other tablet and I have tried about all of them. I would not let any of these reviews discourage you.
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I'm pretty used to dodgy GPS on my devices (N95 - slow, no AGPS; Touch Pro - likewise; Galaxy S - awful) so my expectations are rather low tere... As long as mine has functional WiFi and no other major bugs I'm sure I'll be happy with it!
Other tablets will come out this year which will beat it on screen resolution and single/dual-threaded performance, but I'm getting this for the keyboard dock as much as anything else, so I don't think I'm going to be wishing I waited for one of those.
i could live with certain issues like bleeding, light leaks, etc. But GPS is one of those most important features to me, seeing it not working properly is a huge disappointment.
The way I look at it, the prime had time to get the kinks out from the Asian/American releases,
hopefully now us Europeans will get slightly revised better checked units.
Atleast I hope so..
Screen bleed never bothered me a whole lot, bad wifi is also something im used to,
no working GPS however is a bit of a disappointment because the tablet was to be my only means of navigation.
I definitely do not want a screen with ANY dead pixel though, it would drive me up the walls.
I have a laptop with one in the middle and its like it is screaming at me "look at me look at me look at me!".
But im not gonna let all these horror stories get to me,
there's still a good chance ill get a nice working unit ill be perfectly happy with.
Im gonna make sure I buy it somewhere nearby, with a good return policy though!
love this thread, i am so close to not getting this thing.
this has changed not my mind, but it helps me relax a wee bit about my purchase.
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I own a Prime for 3 days now, no dead pixels, no GPS and wifi reception is okay imho. Nevertheless the Transformer Prime is a beautiful device: thin, ultra-fast, durable and elegant. I would buy it again
But:
I am really upset about Asus removing silently GPS from the specifications and I am waiting for an official statement.
Asus cant just ignore the elephant in the room, I think we'll all have a nice handsome GPS function in icecream sandwich.
No point fixing a wagon that ll be scrapped in a week or two, right?
As much as I want it as as painful it's going to be..I'm going to wait! There, I said it, now I have to keep to my word. LOL
If Asus continues with current PR strategy (removing stuff quietly), we will see crap loads of cancellations of pre-orders and subsequent price drop. I bet you it'll be 50GBP cheaper (for 32gb + dock) by the end of next month, if not sooner.
Question is : how long can I wait
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I didn't get a "perfect" transformer prime (one dead pixel and no gps) but I am extremely satisfied with my purchase. The ui is fast, everything opens up in a second, the video streaming on youtube/veetle (app)/imdb (app) is ridiculously smooth, the sound quality is loud and clear, the build is very sturdy... i could go on and on.
If you were thinking about getting one but got deterred by some of the posts on here, remember that we are early adopters. imperfections are what we put up with to be the first kids on the block with these amazing tablets. The people that are having issues are a minority: we only post to complain, never to praise. its human nature.
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now I haven't seen not one negative thread post or topic on Prime get 10 or more thanks. Keep preaching on brother we will prevail and outshine the darkness.
s1lenz said:
I didn't get a "perfect" transformer prime (one dead pixel and no gps) but I am extremely satisfied with my purchase. The ui is fast, everything opens up in a second, the video streaming on youtube/veetle (app)/imdb (app) is ridiculously smooth, the sound quality is loud and clear, the build is very sturdy... i could go on and on.
If you were thinking about getting one but got deterred by some of the posts on here, remember that we are early adopters. imperfections are what we put up with to be the first kids on the block with these amazing tablets. The people that are having issues are a minority: we only post to complain, never to praise. its human nature.
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I agree totally. I think Asus should have done a test market in Taiwan first. Waited two months get the bugs out then released it. If they had originally given a February release date and fixed things accordingly to the test market findings they would be seen in a much better light. I think this push to get it out was a mistake. I love my prime. I'm one of the lucky ones with no real issues. But if they had given a later release date I would have waited. Its just a matter of keeping the public informed.
Hi guys, heard of this tab before but never found out the specs, and I gotta say, I'm impressed, and it has great support here in xda (a virtuous Rom is good enough for me lol). So I was thinking of buying an iPad this year, especially if the 3rd gen comes out. But really, I'm getting tired of ios( I have an iPod touch), and I also have a galaxy tab 7(old one) which sucks completely. Also, where would be the best place to buy this quad core beast?
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Prime, no question. Which software you prefer - iOS vs. ICS - will likely come down as a matter of personal preference. Most people on this board will probably tell you they like the customizability and increased functionality that Android offers over iOS. But the hardware on the Prime is superior as well:
- Better, sharper, and wide-screen display
- Camera is head and shoulders better (arguably the best tablet camera on the market)
- Tegra 3 is a beast
- Ports - expansion slots, HDMI, and USB (with dock) all give the device much greater flexibility and functionality.
- The dock - this thing is way more awesome than a bluetooth keyboard
- FLASH. Apple and Google can pretend it doesn't matter, but we all know that the internet is a lonely, porno-less place without flash.
Plus, I love the spun aluminum design. The iPad is a pretty piece of kit, but the Prime beats it with the spun aluminum and widescreen aspect ratio. The iPad's 4:3 makes me feel like there isn't much difference between holding it in "portrait" or "landscape," whereas the Prime offers two distinct viewing experiences, each offering their own benefits. Don't worry so much about all the talk about wi-fi problems - they seem to be limited to a minority, and you can always take it back for a new one if you encounter problems. Plus, that's why you have the friendly folks of XDA to help
really depends the type of person you are....
for example.... im a straight up hacker, i hack everything i get my hands on..... thats why i chose the prime.... im dying to mod this thing completely....
HOWEVER, the ipad has way better software..... it all depends what you want.... either mod or nice apps....
i'm mostly talking about really good apps to make music on the ipad that the android dont have
In reviews, the prime out performs the ipad2 hands down. Easy choice.
Definitely get the Prime, its amazing, and much more fun than an iOS device which you run out of neat little things to figure out in about 5min. Also don't get too turned off by all of the problems on this forum because people use the forums for support so there will always be tons of issues on here, many of which are only caused by users f**king around with unofficial updates they found online. As far as hardware and software I have had no major problems that went unresolved, my wifi and Bluetooth are also great.
At first i would have said neither (hate ipads) but on my 4th machine i think i got a fully working one, even picked up 10 sats which was a first.. now i would say almost definitely a prime.. sooner or later someone will add http://www.onskreen.com/cornerstone into their rom, that thing looks amazing..
Wait until the iPad 3 comes out before deciding. As of now the Asus Transformer Prime smokes the iPad 2 in terms of specs, but it's to be expected since the iPad 2 is a year old and the Prime is just a month or two. Meanwhile, the iPad 3 will have a Retina Display and either a quad core Cortex-A9 processor or a dual core Cortex-A15. Both options will match or maybe even beat Tegra 3.
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Definitely get the Prime, its amazing, and much more fun than an iOS device which you run out of neat little things to figure out in about 5min. Also don't get too turned off by all of the problems on this forum because people use the forums for support so there will always be tons of issues on here, many of which are only caused by users f**king around with unofficial updates they found online. As far as hardware and software I have had no major problems that went unresolved, my wifi and Bluetooth are also great.
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Well said!
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Honestly. Just go the store. Try each one, research reviews and what you like and go with it.
Prime users will give reasonable pro and con arguments. IPad users will just say 'ipad rules' and that's the end of their argument and troll other forums being all evangelical. Me hate Apple? Just a bit.
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Honestly. Just go the store. Try each one, research reviews and what you like and go with it.
Prime users will give reasonable pro and con arguments. IPad users will just say 'ipad rules' and that's the end of their argument and troll other forums being all evangelical. Me hate Apple? Just a bit.
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Bias much? There are just as many Android fanboys who simply say, "Everything from Apple sucks and everything with Android rules." Honestly, if you're going to ridicule Apple fans, at least don't stoop to their levels.
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Bias much? There are just as many Android fanboys who simply say, "Everything from Apple sucks and everything with Android rules." Honestly, if you're going to ridicule Apple fans, at least don't stoop to their levels.
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I think my biggest beef is what they charge for their products and it isn't always the latest and greatest technology.
I think my fav joke I heard was 'how do you know someone owns an Apple product?
Just wait. They'll tell you.
Wow guys thanks for all the quick responses! If I were to buy an iPad it be for the apps, but I am a hacker, and I think the prime suits me better lol. If the iPad 3 comes out then ill decide thanks!!
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Don't worry so much about all the talk about wi-fi problems - they seem to be limited to a minority, and you can always take it back for a new one if you encounter problems. Plus, that's why you have the friendly folks of XDA to help
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I love the prime very much. But I think this is a very misleading statement. Most everybody has horrible wifi from any sort of distance. In fact the minority is hands down the people who don't have this problem. Like I said, I love this thing, but I'll be very unhappy if Asus does not offer a hardware fix for all the problems we have, at some point.
Well obviously the iPad is the clear winner, duh
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1515179
Might as well wait and see what iPad 3 has to deliver
I had this debate when I was looking for the tablet and the only reason to get a ipad 2 is for the apps they have,I own both but to me the prime is alot more fun
And to me more productive when I go to class the dock is awesome
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.Prime hands down, future updates and mods will make this beast something even more beastly than can imagine, once Android OS evolves more and proper use of all 5 cores will be available then this will be a dream machine. The T700 is cool but i really don't see the point of a 1080p screen. If you want to enjoy 1080p then you do it on a TV min 40 inch or so.
Wish there was a way to expand or implement more RAM memory.
Asides from the GPS not working not even once, im so happy with this machine, and it has so much potential. My wifi is always good, battery is fine, all and all hardware is ok its just the firmware that needs improvement.
In the .14 firmware i had a total of 3 reboots and flickering many times.
So far .15 seems ok but its only been 1 day.
Surfing is great, recording is FANTASTIC, the recording sound is so nice also.
I love the that you can film in macro as well.
Keyboard dock is something unique to Asus in Android surfpads and it really is great, would be col if they maybe one day release a better dock with a larger battery and perhaps luminated keyboard with a on/off feature.
I couldnt be happier with this machine, i am going to send it back to see if they can replace it with the new batch that it coming but at the same time i am afraid because its running so great even tho its has some issues (asides from GPS).
Gonna change until i find the 'perfect' one
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I love the prime very much. But I think this is a very misleading statement. Most everybody has horrible wifi from any sort of distance. In fact the minority is hands down the people who don't have this problem. Like I said, I love this thing, but I'll be very unhappy if Asus does not offer a hardware fix for all the problems we have, at some point.
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This isn't true at all. I have a Prime and my WiFi is very nearly as good as my Windows laptop, and just as good if not better than my Galaxy S2 phone. People here complain about poor WiFi performance because they are looking for solutions, but I don't think people who at XDA members represent an unbiased or fair representation of the overall population of Transformer Prime owners.
As far as TF Primes with issues, only .57% of all Primes sold to date have been returned with WiFi performance listed as the problem. In general the return/complaint rate for the Transformer Prime doesn't seem to be very far out of line with the complaint rate for similar products which indicates that there are a lot of happy Transformer Prime users (myself included).
(source: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57373634-94/putting-the-transformer-prime-in-perspective/)
Good sir, I would advise you to not contemplate obtaining an iPad. The reason for this is not that I, and many others advocate the fact that the iPad is a sub-par device in terms of both hardware and software, but because the iPad is simply does not entrust the consumer any flexibility to accomplish what they desire. Apple has a pattern of perpetual arguments with the effervescent jailbreakers that constantly publish transient workarounds; these aforementioned conflicts greatly limit the updates of the device so that the user experience cannot and will not have the fluidity that you apparently so desire. However, if you wish to imprison your being within the garden of apples creation, then I implore you to leave this internet site at once for this place is not one made for bigots or conformists who aspire to become hipsters. If you have ascertained that the iPad is the device that you find transcendent, then I have no more words for you but the greatest form of pity. Moreover, if you find my erudite admonition too strenuous to interpret, then attempt to comprehend the following:
Yo, don't get dat ipad cuz it be not good. Yo da tf has so much mo features so get dat **** now.
Good sir, I would advise you to not contemplate obtaining an iPad. The reason for this is not that I, and many others advocate the fact that the iPad is a sub-par device in terms of both hardware and software, but because the iPad is simply does not entrust the consumer any flexibility to accomplish what they desire. Apple has a pattern of perpetual arguments with the effervescent jailbreakers that constantly publish transient workarounds; these aforementioned conflicts greatly limit the updates of the device so that the user experience cannot and will not have the fluidity that you apparently so desire. However, if you wish to imprison your being within the garden of apples creation, then I implore you to leave this internet site at once for this place is not one made for bigots or conformists who aspire to become hipsters. If you have ascertained that the iPad is the device that you find transcendent, then I have no more words for you but the greatest form of pity. Moreover, if you find my erudite admonition too strenuous to interpret, then attempt to comprehend the following:<br />
Yo, don't get dat ipad cuz it be not good. Yo da tf has so much mo features so get dat **** now.
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Hahahaha lolololol man very nice!! Even though I'm kinda a hipster, but I don't like apple that much
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I'm potentially getting a used one today to replace my iPad. I'm moving from the apple ecosystem to android. Had an android phone now for a while and would rather have a tablet as well versus incomplete syncing of the two.
I last had an android tab in January and the app scene was very bad for tablets, and I read the prime had a lot of issues.
Did either resolve?
I'm getting it cheap, so I don't mind the infinity coming out and may switch to it later. But want to get a head start on moving my extensive ecosystem to google
As a Prime owner, my advice is to stay far away from anything Asus. It's becoming clear to me they can't fix the issues in this device. I wish I never bought mine.
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Wow... Sadly I don't know an alternative non-7 inch android tablet...
I feel your pain, as I'm also interested in a 10" tablet with plenty of storage, and there are no great options at this point. I'm just trying to give you a heads up. Between the slow ass I/O issues that they obviously can't fix, the firmware releases that keep fixing one thing and breaking 3 others, the cheap parts used (search the forum for LCD mura), the poor design choices (good luck connecting to a far away Wifi signal), and the terrible support (read some of the horrible RMA stories here), I wouldn't touch another Asus product with a 10 foot pole.
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maybe the best will be to wait a lil bit more and see the TF700. But in any case, I really don't see the point of buying the Tf201 right now, with the 300 offering a very similar experience (imho there some quite recognisable slow downs overally speaking but it's still close enough for the price difference) for a cheaper price, and the Tf700 to be shipped in the following weeks. For those proficient in french, here is a test of the device
http://www.lesnumeriques.com/tablet...pad-infinity-tf700-avec-dock-p13514/test.html
and as far as the wifi goes, it's as smooth and stable as the 300 (if not better). So no matter how many software updates Asus is going to throw at us, it is highly unlikely that our beloved prime Tf201 (yes I still love the tablet even though it pisses me bigtime to have such a mediocre wifi connectivity) going to achieve that performance.
I would look into Samsung if i could do it again or Acer Iconia as a close second.
I would go for it! I am having a wonderful experience with my Prime. It's by far the best Imo. Forums are ruled by people seeking answers to there issues either caused by themselves tinkering with the device or just real issues. Most are quite happy. You should check out the Positive Transformer Prime thread linked to my sig. Then decide for yourself.
I have two primes and one 300. I like them all. My unlocked prime with wookie ROM is the best. It is faster than my laptop. Why not buy a prime if your getting it for a good price?
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I would go for it! I am having a wonderful experience with my Prime. It's by far the best Imo. Forums are ruled by people seeking answers to there issues either caused by themselves tinkering with the device or just real issues. Most are quite happy. You should check out the Positive Transformer Prime thread linked to my sig. Then decide for yourself.
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I generally agree with jj here.. I love my Prime. Yes, there's a few little quirks here and there, but nothing as world ending as some people would have you believe. Compared to the other devices on the market, I'd still go with this one if I had to again.
(Now, if a Nexus 10 comes out.. mmm.. bets might be off
As it is with anything on the internet... the 5% that have problems make up the 95% majority who scream the loudest.
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As it is with anything on the internet... the 5% that have problems make up the 95% majority who scream the loudest.
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That and I just can't see anyone (in their right mind) that would post positive "complaints" on a developer/troubleshooting forum...
My $.02: I have it, it's OK. I would not buy one again. Basically when you buy a Prime keep in mind that you're buying an "almost ready for beta" product.
Bottom line: if you don't mind beta testing for ASUS (yes, 8 months later and we're still beta testing) then go for it!
If you're getting it for $300 or under then do it. Otherwise go for a Galaxy Tab.
Go for it! been loving mines since I got it in dec. not everyone has issues. jjdevega summed it up best.
I think you have to accept the mindset that you are going to have to tweak your Prime to get everything just right. Coming from an iPad this will be a different experience.
Personally I have experienced all the issues mentioned above on my Prime. I even RMA'd and refunded my 1st unit. However, I have been having a lot of fun applying the different tweaks and experimenting with what works best for my individual use case. I can tell you that my Prime is absolutely BLAZING right now - it is completely stable and performance is beyond my expectations.
I was pessimistic for a long time, but now I know I prefer having the options (because of an amazing developer community) to tinker and modify.
If this is appealing to you, the Prime is a great choice.
well , i think i have been top complainer on the prime. However i love this tablet.
its not perfect yet but i trust in asus that they start working on it now the google tablet is done.
some weeks ago i was really pessimistic but developers like wookie, motley baboo, ckhtml and more, and demandarin for his help with submitting issues, gave back hope.
and tbh, asus support has been great since tf101 however something went realy wrong with ICS on both devices , cant ignore that.
conclusion: for a good price i would buy it. buy with s/n c4 or higher.
keep calm and see what asus is offering in the future. their new devices is still kinda like in beta mode, endless problems waiting to be fixed. im not even sure nexus 7 is safe to use. best is hold ur horses and see what others review abt it.
the TF700T is supposed to come out next month at $499, which is what the prime sells for new right now. so I would keep this in mind when buying a used prime...
I have had my Prime since December and it has been fine. However right now I would recommend waiting until Mid-July and buying the TF Infinity. It will start at the same base price ($500) has a better screen and a plastic panel that should fix any wifi/gps problems people have had with the Prime. Plus it is compatible with practically all TF-Prime accessories including the keyboard dock.
Right now that is likely to be the best choice for a 10" Android tablet.
good read
If money isn't an concern, I would get a prime.
I as well moved from the IPAD. It's great for what I use it for, however my wife uses it as well.
I wanted her to have her own and so I started the search for another tablet that would suit the needs I have.
After roughly three months of research it came down to two things.
Either buying a Transformer Prime or TF300. Or waiting for the TF700 to hit in July.
Personally I've seen hi-res screens, unless your a graphics designer and your going to do EXTREME graphics rendering and modeling
(which at that point you should be using a PC or MAC desktop - my thoughts that is. )
then getting the Prime is the way to go. I got mine a few days ago, and it's done everything my IPad can do + some, no issues with Wifi - havent tested the GPS because I don't need it for that.
I've used several SD cards and again no issues what so ever.
The ONLY thing I will say in making your decision, is always get the bigger storage size, I have the 64gb and It's EXACTLY what I want / need!
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As a Prime owner, my advice is to stay far away from anything Asus. It's becoming clear to me they can't fix the issues in this device. I wish I never bought mine.
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i second this... i have had it with Asus. i was one of the first one to get Prime cause i love android. but Asus's ability to integrate the software is driving me crazy. and not to mention how they handled GPS issue... me personally are jumping ship back to ipad..... at least i won't get ANR everything 10mins.....
I'm also happy with the prime so far. My only concern about is that after months of daily using I really see a big advantage in the 7 inch form factor in many use cases. There was a great video interview with Matias Duarte on the verge about the design of the nexus 7 tablet two days ago or so and it nailed it on the head. So my next tablet will be the Nexus one, but I'll keep the prime as well.
Hey Everyone,
I have been pretty much decided on purchasing a Nexus 10 as my first entry in to the Tablet market. I planned on selling my Macbook and attempting to live with just a tablet, as to be honest, there isn't much I do on my Macbook nowadays that I could not achieve on a tablet. I wanted to wait until I could play with a Nexus 10 in a store prior to making a purchase just in case though. Obviously this will have to wait a little longer.
In the mean time, my brother just arrived for a visit from Australia and he has the Asus Transformer TF201. I had a play with this last night and have to say, I am very impressed. It has such a solid feel, looks premium and the keyboard dock which has extra battery and all the ports needed is quite fantastic. I hadn't seen one before and wondered what he was doing when he took the screen off what I thought was a small netbook! After having a play, I did some research and see the TF700 has a rather nice HD screen, a little more power and comes in the same lovely package. The only problem is, I can't see it available in the UK anywhere and from all my research, it seems it was due out a while back. It seems to be available at some places in Europe, for example you can get a French one, which would have a French keyboard, which I'm not too interested in. Otherwise, you can get from America on Ebay for around 420 pounds including delivery.
Has anyone got this TF700 and if so, what are your thoughts? How do you compare to the Nexus 10? Did you give up the TF700 for the Nexus 10? Or will you be staying put? It's small package and keyboard make it quite an ideal laptop replacement. I don't think it's quite as powerful as the Nexus 10 though.
I hope I posted this in the right place, if not, please tell me and I'll amend.
Cheers,
Mike
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Hey Everyone,
I have been pretty much decided on purchasing a Nexus 10 as my first entry in to the Tablet market. I planned on selling my Macbook and attempting to live with just a tablet, as to be honest, there isn't much I do on my Macbook nowadays that I could not achieve on a tablet. I wanted to wait until I could play with a Nexus 10 in a store prior to making a purchase just in case though. Obviously this will have to wait a little longer.
In the mean time, my brother just arrived for a visit from Australia and he has the Asus Transformer TF201. I had a play with this last night and have to say, I am very impressed. It has such a solid feel, looks premium and the keyboard dock which has extra battery and all the ports needed is quite fantastic. I hadn't seen one before and wondered what he was doing when he took the screen off what I thought was a small netbook! After having a play, I did some research and see the TF700 has a rather nice HD screen, a little more power and comes in the same lovely package. The only problem is, I can't see it available in the UK anywhere and from all my research, it seems it was due out a while back. It seems to be available at some places in Europe, for example you can get a French one, which would have a French keyboard, which I'm not too interested in. Otherwise, you can get from America on Ebay for around 420 pounds including delivery.
Has anyone got this TF700 and if so, what are your thoughts? How do you compare to the Nexus 10? Did you give up the TF700 for the Nexus 10? Or will you be staying put? It's small package and keyboard make it quite an ideal laptop replacement. I don't think it's quite as powerful as the Nexus 10 though.
I hope I posted this in the right place, if not, please tell me and I'll amend.
Cheers,
Mike
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Mike,
I've had both the Prime and the Infinity. Prime was plagued with light bleed issues and bad wifi reception so Asus traded mine for the TF700. It was nearly perfect for one dumb but vital mistake, the eMMc on which Asus decided to save some money (that is, they put a very poor and cheap one in it). Because of that, the devices lags in the browser and starts lagging when you have multiple apps open. By lag I don't mean it takes micro secs longer. The device would just lock up for a few seconds before continuing (slowly) and does that a few times.. There is a work-a-round which improves performance a bit called CleanROM. However, for that you have to unlock your device which you have to do via the Asus website and voids all your warranty. So I sold the Infinity to get the N10 as I was sick of it. I hope the N10 is better.
Hope this helps a bit...
The cheap emmc on all Asus tablets is a deal breaker. Untill they fix that I wouldn't recomend any asus tablet.
I am not confident about Transformer's storage performance. Check this simple video about boot speed. Obviously SoC plays a part, but I believe that the NAND also plays a vital role.
Just found some numbers. Check the Infinity numbers about Androbench storage test:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6073/the-google-nexus-7-review/6
Compare this against N10:
http://cdn.androidpolice.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/nexusae0_Screenshot_2012-11-07-12-09-06.png
Important are first 4 numbers (Sequential read/write and random read/write).
Seeing 2 votes for the Asus, any reasons why guys? Input would be greatly appreciated! Cheers.
I have both in my posession right now.
The infinity like others have said is almost a perfect tablet. It has everything. However the device is SLOW. As others have stated Asus cheaper out on the memory and using the device is a chore.
I will be keeping my nexus and returning my 700. The nexus is amazingly smooth, less light bleed than my Asus.
The only downfall is no micro SD on the nexus vs the Asus.
Edit: there are votes for the nexus, not the Asus. Everyone so far has been pro nexus
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Same here,nice display on tf700 but using it is a chore
As soon as my order is marked as shipped im putting it on ebay/craigslist
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I have both in my posession right now.
The infinity like others have said is almost a perfect tablet. It has everything. However the device is SLOW. As others have stated Asus cheaper out on the memory and using the device is a chore.
I will be keeping my nexus and returning my 700. The nexus is amazingly smooth, less light bleed than my Asus.
The only downfall is no micro SD on the nexus vs the Asus.
Edit: there are votes for the nexus, not the Asus. Everyone so far has been pro nexus
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When you say slow, do you mean in all operations? Or anything specific? I used the TF201 last night for a few hours of web browsing and general stuff and that seemed to be pretty good. It was running Jellybean too. Surely the TF700 must be a step up from this in performance which couldn't be that bad?
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When you say slow, do you mean in all operations? Or anything specific? I used the TF201 last night for a few hours of web browsing and general stuff and that seemed to be pretty good. It was running Jellybean too. Surely the TF700 must be a step up from this in performance which couldn't be that bad?
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There's nothing wrong with the tf700. It appeals to a lot of people that offers a lot of options. I owned a tf700 and enjoyed it for the 30 days AI had it. It was fast and JB was a nice welcome. I had rooted it and stayed locked and stocked. Only tweaks were installing Browser2ram for faster stock browser experience. Its true IO is an issue if you choose to stay locked. Available ram will dip close to 350 to 400mb available from its 1gig. Sometime as low as 100mb left due to having several widgets and or playing a high intensive game. So multitasking can be a challenge at times. If you unlock and install a custom rom like Cleanrom, you won't have any IO issues. It is definitely a step up from the Prime, I also owned that for 6months before I switched to the Infinity. Just returned my Note10.1 for the N10! Can't wait to get my hands on it!
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Wasn't intending to put the Asus down. It is a great tablet. The only thing that holds it back is the slow internal memory. To really bring out the full potential you have to unlock it (which voids the warranty sending your serial number to Asus). Install cleanrom and a kernel, and some have gone as far as buying a class 10 64gb micro SD and moving the data partition to that negating the internal memory.
I would keep my Asus if the internal wasn't so slow. Browsing Netflix, the market was just tedious. Installing apps took forever. I would much rather do things on. My phone than the Asus. Its a shame because that's the only flaw I found with the tablet.
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I cannot comment on ASUS's poor choice on the internal storage; but with a Galaxy Prevail I had, there was a mod that could transfer data to an external micro SD card. Upon doing this, I couldn't even use the device just due to how bad the lag was (the micro SD card I was using must of been a slower class). Switched back to internal, and all was well.
So using a slower flash controller can make the overall experience of a device very much worse.
My input is biased as I have not owned Nexus 10, and may not ever. Still debating.
But I have done extensive research about all the major tablet out there including Nexus 10, various windows 8 tablets, and owned Infinity myself for about 3 months or so. I sold it in anticipation of Nexus 10.
So here are some of things I can tell (nexus 10 part is just a speculation, and definitely guys own the device can tell you better)
Screen - Nexus 10
Infinity's screen was phenomenal when I jumped from iPad 2. Then I got Note 10.1, and just could not tolerate the lower resolution anymore so had to go back to Infinity. I am not sure if the Infinity to Nexus 10 gives the same degree of jump, but it is possible if you purely look at difference in number of pixel densities. Though one thing I can say is if you never used higher resolution screen, it's hard to know what you are missing. Because I saw new Ipad several times, but until owned Infinity myself and used for couples day I really did not appreciate the difference.
Battery Life - Infinity.
Charge time is faster, extra docking battery, and perhaps tablet itself already has better battery than the Nexus 10 according to paper.
Extra storage - Infinity
MicroSD. I am sure you can connect couple cables via microUSB and use them on Nexus 10 as well, but certainly not as convenient and visually not as good.
Build Quality - Likely Nexus 10
I have never exchanged any of my electronics before in my life. With infinity, I had to do it twice and seems like quite few complaints on the forum here. So when you get a good unit, it's great but there is chance you might have to go through couple exchange. As far as light bleed, some person posted on this forum that Nexus 10 has light bleed. That was actually worth if not the same to the worst light bleed I had on my 3 infinity tablet i.e. both have light bleed.
Dock station - Its really nice to have docking keyboard on infinity. People are hoping Pogo connector on Nexus 10 to support this, and personally I am dreaming the same. However, to be honest, I am not even certain that connector support such type of input.
Application Performance - Likely Nexus 10
Overall performance is likely stronger on Nexus 10, but so far reviews I have read across multiple sites sounds like not a complete ground breaking performance. Nexus 10 certainly has better GPU than Infinity, but supports way more pixels. CPU wise, perhaps it may be due to the fact the some benchmarks are not yet optimized for A15 architecture, but if you look at some benchmark like Antutu Infinity is superior. (Mainly because quad vs. dual core difference I believe). The other test is Sunspider, which is browser test. After the latest firmware update, Infinity's stock browser gives 900's score. Clearly above the Nexus 10, but nexus 10's score also likely to go up. However, there tests are generally just number and I don't think not true reflection of real experience by any mean.
As far as slow internal storage, it is true that Infinity uses inferior internal storage; however, whether you really notice this as major issue or not is depends on how you use your tablet. Initially, people complained this as a cause of slow browser page loading, near complete stall of system while application downloading. Also, relatively frequent application not responding errors. These have been alleviated by update; however, not eradicated. So wonder how Nexus 10 solved this.
Wifi Performance - Nexus 10
MiMo should give quite extra wifi performance.
Future proof - ?
Nexus 10 will definitely get quicker updates on OS. But ASUS is also very fast in fact it has been one of the fastest to get OS update among non nexus device. Though actual overall internal hardware is somewhat inferior to that of Nexus 10, Infinity drives less resolution so it may be relatively sufficient for what it has. If so, as developer supports more higher resolution applications on Android platform (to support Nexus 10), Infinity will also benefit at the same time. So my guess is unless Asus gives up, relative future proof are probably similar between the two.
Conclusion
In current stage of tablet market, I just don't see any tablet that is perfect or completely superior to other competitive device including Nexus 10, Infinity, and Galaxy Note 10.1. Personally, I want a tablet with high resolution screen, luxury of Infinity's dock, microSD, and Galaxy Note 10.1's stylus. WIth zero crash, 10 hours battery, less than 600g... Closest I see for potential right now (myself) is Windows surface Pro but even it lacks battery life, and weight factor. Maybe Samsung's next tablet (Galaxy Note 10.1 with high resolution screen)... I think you just need to list what is important for you and decide.
I had both the Prime and the Infinity. The main reason I returned them was because I read this forum. The Prime had its issues, but I did just fine with the router in my room, and outside the house I always used my phone as a hotspot so the wi-fi problems did not hit me hard. The GPS NEVER worked, but I said to myself, who cares, I have GPS on my phone. I ended up returning it because Best Buy let me (which I also found about here), and because after reading the forum I had the idea that it was the right thing to do, I did pay good money for the device.
As for the Infinity, it was perfect... to me, it was, but again, from reading the forums I had the urge to return it because it ticked me off that ASUS "overlooked" a glaring flaw AGAIN. But to be honest, I was fine with the performance.
I have the Nexus 10 and it is also a good device so no regrets. People are finding flaws on it already, like some flexing in the back. I have the flexing, it's very, very small, and it doesn't bother me at all, light bleed? I don't even know what that is and if I have it.
If you can try out the Infinity and don't feel like it's sluggish AND really loved the dock and expandable memory, get it. Not everyone is as picky with their devices. This is not meant as an insult to anyone here, I just feel like some here look for perfection more than I do. I can understand that because these devices are not cheap at all.
Usually, I tend to stick with what i have and learn to love it, unless it's just a really crappy device or it doesn't work at all.
I hope I have helped you a bit in making your decision.
FINAL EDIT: I forgot to say this, imo, the Infinity felt much more solidly built, the Aluminum just felt right.
Why does everyone keep attributing the lag they see on the transformer infinity to hardware issues? This argument has already been debunked due to the software optimization of cleanrom and c10 without overclocking... any issues that might be noticed on the infinity will be fixed with future updates. So please people, stop with the inaccurate assumptions. The infinity is an absolute beast and so is the N10. The deal breaker for me with the N10 is the battery and no sd card slot. Those are huge issues for me that CAN'T be corrected with updates. The battery is issue has been known since the first reviews came in.
Both devices are awesome, but i have to give the edge to the infinity...OP i would ask yourself these questions...
1. Is battery life important to you?
2. How good are both manufacturers with software updates?
3. Is external storage important to you?
4. Would you rather metal or plastic? Does it male a difference to you?
5. Is having the option of converting your tablet into a netbook appealing to you?
6. Is having Extra battery life through a keyboard dock appealing to you?
I would ask yourself these questions before making your decisions. Good luck!
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Why does everyone keep attributing the lag they see on the transformer infinity to hardware issues? This argument has already been debunked due to the software optimization of cleanrom and c10 without overclocking... any issues that might be noticed on the infinity will be fixed with future updates. So please people, stop with the inaccurate assumptions. The infinity is an absolute beast and so is the N10. The deal breaker for me with the N10 is the battery and no sd card slot. Those are huge issues for me that CAN'T be corrected with updates. The battery is issue has been known since the first reviews came in.
Both devices are awesome, but i have to give the edge to the infinity...
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It is hardware. The benchmarks shown the internal memory of the Asus to be extremely slow. The read/right in benchmarks is slow. I think 0.2 mb/s at times?
Cleanrom doesn't fix that...it just masks it somewhat. I've watched videos of cleanrom and yes it works great, but tweaking software only takes it so far.
Being forced to unlock and give up your warranty on a $500 device to mask the hardware is just not worth it IMO.
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It is hardware. The benchmarks shown the internal memory of the Asus to be extremely slow. The read/right in benchmarks is slow. I think 0.2 mb/s at times?
Cleanrom doesn't fix that...it just masks it somewhat. I've watched videos of cleanrom and yes it works great, but tweaking software only takes it so far.
Being forced to unlock and give up your warranty on a $500 device to mask the hardware is just not worth it IMO.
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Its not hardware, its software. And doesn't mask the i/o issues, it optimizes the software to make better use of the storage speeds. And I'm saying you don't have to unlock, I'm saying that the issues you might see ( which are almost non existent since the last update) CAN be corrected with updates, as made by example of cleanrom. Also looking around these boards, you guys are dealing with some pretty serious issues of your own...
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Its not hardware, its software. And doesn't mask the i/o issues, it optimizes the software to make better use of the storage speeds. And I'm saying you don't have to unlock, I'm saying that the issues you might see ( which are almost non existent since the last update) CAN be corrected with updates, as made by example of cleanrom. Also looking around these boards, you guys are dealing with some pretty serious issues of your own...
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Well I'm not trying to start an argument on the forums. I have both, all with the latest firmware and the N10 flies compared to my Asus. I was really, really trying to like the asus...but its just to sluggish for me. Everyone has their own opinions and needs from a device. Mine just lean more towards the nexus.
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Asus tablets are honestly terrible. Every single display model I have ever used from the transformer, prime, infinity, tf300 etc has all had either a poor wifi connection or ran like crap. Coincidence? Slight possibilty, but considering I go to a lot electronic stores, that doesn't instill me with much confidence.
I am actually shocked that Asus managed to make the Nexus 7 run well, it is plagued with hardware issues but at least it runs well.
Maybe their next crack at the infinity will be good but for now it sucks and the Nexus 10 seems quite awesome.
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Well I'm not trying to start an argument on the forums. I have both, all with the latest firmware and the N10 flies compared to my Asus. I was really, really trying to like the asus...but its just to sluggish for me. Everyone has their own opinions and needs from a device. Mine just lean more towards the nexus.
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Unless you have reset your infinity to factory and done a full clean update to the latest firmware, along with either keeping stock on both devices or having exactly the same apps installed, then making a point that one device is faster than the other is not accurate. I can show you a nexus 1 factory reset and that will "fly" faster than a galaxy nexus that hasn't been put through the same treatment, doesn't mean the nexus 1 is the better device.
Your right, it does come down to needs and personal opinions, just gotta make sure your making those decisions on accurate information my friend....
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Asus tablets are honestly terrible. Every single display model I have ever used from the transformer, prime, infinity, tf300 etc has all had either a poor wifi connection or ran like crap. Coincidence? Slight possibilty, but considering I go to a lot electronic stores, that doesn't instill me with much confidence.
I am actually shocked that Asus managed to make the Nexus 7 run well, it is plagued with hardware issues but at least it runs well.
Maybe their next crack at the infinity will be good but for now it sucks and the Nexus 10 seems quite awesome.
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Except for the horrible battery, poor graphics performance and no microSD slot...ya.... awesome...
Also I'm playing on my sisters N10 right now. I honestly see no difference besides the obvious UI. What i have noticed though is the battery. There is no way I could deal with this.... 30 percent after a little over an hour of mkv movie playing? That my friend is the definition of an inefficient battery to usage ratio.
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Unless you have reset your infinity to factory and done a full clean update to the latest firmware, along with either keeping stock on both devices or having exactly the same apps installed, then making a point that one device is faster than the other is not accurate. I can show you a nexus 1 factory reset and that will "fly" faster than a galaxy nexus that hasn't been put through the same treatment, doesn't mean the nexus 1 is the better device.
Your right, it does come down to needs and personal opinions, just gotta make sure your making those decisions on accurate information my friend....
Sadly I did do that first thing. No change. As I said I have both sitting in front of me so I have all the information I could possibly have haha
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