This is my first android phone, so this is probably a really dumb question...
But from my over 6 years of experience with customizing smartphones (they where still called PDAs or Pocket-PCs back than hehe) I learned one important rule: Always back up everything you need to get it back to stock settings, in case you ever need to RMA it.
I just spend a full evening on research, but it seems like its really not possible to backup the system without voiding the warranty aka rooting the phone. Is that right? Since I have a very peculiar item to start with, a Huawei u8160 aka Vodafone 858 smart with a Swisscom branded Rom, its impossible to find that particular rom on the net. I guess I can always go with a Vodafone stock rom and return it directly to Huawei instead of Swisscom, but than again: will those roms be unrooted? If so, how did anyone acquire them?
Once I am sure I have no chance anyway, I can go on rooting the phone with a clear conscience. But if there is a chance to get that stock rom saved first, I would be a little more relaxed with future customization.
Thanks for any advice you can give.
The only way to backup your System is a custom-recovery. I'm sure, you will find it here on XDA.
This might help you get in the right direction
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17496969
OK, I will try to place the CWM recovery.img on the phone via fastboot.exe as described here.
Hope this works out In either case: Thank you for the hints!
Worked. I guess this didn't fullfill the whole idea of backing up everything before editing anything, since I have overwritten the stock-recovery. But whatever. Phone is rooted now and I am ready to dive in.
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So far I haven't found an exact rom/firmware to match the one on my UK Wifi Tab, the serial numbers differ slightly.
I'd like to find out if it's possible for me to make my own complete backup image, one that can be used if need be to put the Tab back to how it was out of the box. I'd do a factory reset before making the backup.
Is such a thing possible without having to root my device and without having CWM? Could it be done with ADB (not that I have a clue how to use it).
If it is possible, would someone be kind enough to tell me how it's done?
Many thanks.
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So far I haven't found an exact rom/firmware to match the one on my UK Wifi Tab, the serial numbers differ slightly.
I'd like to find out if it's possible for me to make my own complete backup image, one that can be used if need be to put the Tab back to how it was out of the box. I'd do a factory reset before making the backup.
Is such a thing possible without having to root my device and without having CWM? Could it be done with ADB (not that I have a clue how to use it).
If it is possible, would someone be kind enough to tell me how it's done?
Many thanks.
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Nope, not possible without root. With root, however, you can reset the device to factory. Is there a specific reason you don't want to root?
Thanks for the reply.
I do intend rooting the device at some point, but I've been putting it off until I can get hold off (or create) a rom that matches the one on my Tab right now. I see that samfirmware have a Euro rom, but it appears slighly different to what I have on my device.
I'm just trying to avoid the possibility of ending up with a non standard rom for my device, which might prevent me receiving future updates, or even from returning it if a warranty claim arises.
My HTC Desire is using a custom rom, but I have the security of having the original RUU that I can run to get my phone back to stock, I was hoping for something similar for the Tab.
Im new here, and after watching the newb video, and looking around I have started to get my knowledge base up. I cannot afford to brick my phone as I am completely broke and this phone will be my only contact back home when I deploy.
I have a streak 5 running 2.2 on the Rogers network in Canada. (screen broke so they are sending me a new one and it arrives with 1.6).
I have a wish to root my phone so I can get rid of useless programs that rogers has put on my phone.
I need to know if there is a fool proof way to create a back up so if I have to send this one back too, Rogers wont know that I rooted it.
I am truly sorry if someone has already posted an answer for this, I have a 2 year old to catch and I have hardly any computer time.
I also have questions about custom ROMs but I havent done all my research yet
Thanks guys!
[REF]Everything you wanted to know about the streak, but were too busy bricking it
Update using the built in updater, then you can install streakmod which is a custom recovery
By update, do you mean to use the OTA upgrade to 2.2 offered from rogers?
Yes, start from there
ilikemygooglephone(dot)com/2010/10/09/step-by-step-clockworkmod-recovery-on-dell-streak-for-windows-mac-linux-andorid-2-12-2/ in here it says to root your phone before. can i install streakmod before i root?
If you need to root, install streakmod then superuser.zip
Stay away from custom ROM's, at the end of the day they're not worth the trouble IMO. People will disagree with me, but most of them have probably spent at least 8-10 hours messing with them. Stick with 354 or 351 for stability and reliability.
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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is there a location that I can find a step by step process for COMPLETE NEWBS? I have not been able to find out how streakmod or clockwork mod install/work. I need to know how I can install one of these programs and how to restore a phone. If my phone is destroyed I need to be able to buy a new one and restore my old phone onto it.
Try starting here
And this guide is good.
You only need Streakmod if you are planning to flash a custom rom, otherwise just flash the latest 351/354/360 rom and recovery.
Cannot seem to find the answer for this specific device. Will have the ATT USA version of the HOX+ and want to know:
What is the Best Back Up App to get before rooting or anything like that, something that can be found in the Play store? Obviously would want it to backup the basics like calender, contacts, email accounts, etc. Also though, need a backup app that will backup installed App Data like say my game progress for Dead Trigger. I'm reading that once you root your device all App Data is erased to scratch, would hate to invest hours into an app only to have to start all over once Rooted when it does become available for ATT USA version.
Then once i am Rooted, what is the best Rooted Backup App to install that will backup everything above and anything else i would need before unlocking Bootloader and flashing roms?
Seems there's unroot backups and rooted backups but hundreds on the Play store and hate to find out the hard way which ones actually work and do what i need and which ones don't.
Appreciate any help on this and hope soon there will be stickies in this thread explaining such things to Androids Newbs like me so once this device is released tomorrow you guys don't get countless threads started like mine. Thank you
Is this right?
Upon doing more research online please correct me if i'm wrong here. From my understanding this is the process needed to flash a custom rom:
1. Root your device. Rooting actually does not delete any data or files but virtually "unlocks" (almost like jailbreaking Ios) your device for further access/tweaking abilities.
2. Now that i am rooted i can install titanium backup (is this the best rooted backup, see it mentioned by you guys a lot here) and this rooted backup app will backup virtually everything on my device including app data.
3. Once rooted, i can now install custom recovery (what exactly is this and what does it do?). I'm guessing custom recovery is needed for unlocking the bootloader incase there is a problem custom recovery will recover your device (hints the name custom recovery)?
4. Now i have my device rooted, everything including app data backed up with titanium backup, custom recovery installed, now i can unlock bootloader. Once i unlock bootloader i will then need to restore my device with titanium backup. Now my phone is basically fully unlocked (fully jailbroken) and can now flash any custom rom available for my specific device (ATT HOX+ USA model)?
I see something mentioned about ADB but do not understand what this does or is used for? It seems it is another way of backing up the phone but if so, where is the backup file saved and used for exactly?
Just trying to figure this all out guys, please be easy on me. Trust me i've been researching and just trying to put all the pieces to this android puzzle together here, newb to android and first android device (very excited and just want to do it all right and not have issues of course).
If i'm missing any steps or have them out of order please let me know. I understand there is no root yet for this specific device but just saying if everything was available the steps i laid out is what i would do?
Thank you in advance for your patience and help, greatly appreciate the community here and all you guys do for us.
Sorry one more thing. Once i am rooted, unlocked bootloader, flashing custom roms having a great time. What exactly do the warranty people look for if i need to send my device in for replacement under warranty?
Do they void it if my device is rooted, or unlocked bootloader, or both?
If so, is root and or bootloader unlock reversible if i needed to return my device under warranty for say a hardware issue?
I'm sure i can flash the stock rom back so the warranty people won't see a custom one on the device but do they look for Root or Bootloader?
Just trying to cover all my bases here, thank you.
so this is my problem. Im having some issues with my phone and I want it to be changed. The issues really dont matter. In order for my provider to send me another phone they want me to do a master reset. This of course will delete all my apps and settings. As far as I know there is not a backup app that once you restore the phone and apps the restored phone will have all it's app data in place, the icons will be where you want them, etc, just like you would from when you clone or make an image from a Hard Drive from pc... Or is there and application that will do this? My only other option (i believe) is to root the phone to then use an app to do a real backup, then unroot the phone, root the new phone and do the restore. I also have to remove the root from the old phone but can that be done without increasing the counter? This is all a big hassle. I cant believe you can do a real backup/restore on a phone nowadays....
If there is any other way to do it I will appreciate the help. I will have to do this in the next days since my warranty expires in a bit over a month...
Thanks!
You are correct ....
Rooting of the device is needed, then the unroot.
It's the only method I'm aware of in getting a full nandroid backup ..g
Sarge has it right if you want to use backup apps.
If you don't want to root, you will need to flash TWRP or CWR to get the custom recovery and backup. Then make a backup to your external SD card. Use recovery to factory reset. Send the phone away after removing SD card and sim card. The backup is called a nandroid and it is basically an image of the phone.
On new phone flash same recovery then restore the backup. When you start the phone it will be as the broken one was.
You can remove the recovery from the broken phone, but I never heard of anyone getting problems from the warranty people for that.
Thanks both of you guys for the information. I am getting ready to do the root not only for the backup but there are quite a few apps that I want to use that require root that I am going to have to do it.
Now, I started reading tonight and the more I read the more I get confused. Is there an official guide to root the note (specifically AT&T running ICS 4.0.4 if there is a difference) in a way that I can unroot it in the future avoiding tripping any counters?
I have read so many different threads about rooting, they tend to be different so I am looking for the "current" accepted "method" to do this with decent steps if possible. Thanks much!
Whoa whoa, are we forgetting about ADB Backup?
What do you mean CPA?
BTW, I want to root the stock att ics, I am not interested into flashing another rom.
Fernandq said:
What do you mean CPA?
BTW, I want to root the stock att ics, I am not interested into flashing another rom.
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Yeah I understand, you're wanting to do a full backup of your phone before you turn it in right? Or, at the very least, your apps and settings?
Welp, here you go: no root required.
A quick google search for "ADB backup" should get you the info you need as well.
Also looks like there's an XDA dev who came up with a much easier interface (as opposed to doing everything via command-line, which still isn't that difficult). Might be worth checking:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36499906
Edit: Read your second post, and it looks like you're interested in rooting...I guess I was confused as to your intentions after reading you first post, which just sounded like you didn't want to lose your info after doing a factory reset. Regardless, it is HIGHLY advised before doing any sort of root-related activity to do an ADB backup. That way, if anything goes wrong in the rooting process itself, or if you later decide you want to go back to stock and/or all of your original apps and settings from before the root, you can literally be back with a clean slate within a matter of minutes.
Thanks very much for the link. I have swapped phones already but it will be helpful before I root. THANKS!
after looking at adb I see it would not work for my initial needs as it only can be restored to the same device. I wanted something I could do a backup in the old one and restore that backup in the new one. Anyway, since I am past that anyway I am going to give it a try in theold device.... thanks!
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after looking at adb I see it would not work for my initial needs as it only can be restored to the same device. I wanted something I could do a backup in the old one and restore that backup in the new one. Anyway, since I am past that anyway I am going to give it a try in theold device.... thanks!
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The full backup, yes (regarding being able to only restore to the same device) but you could literally extract whatever data you want from the ADB backup using WinRar, then manually push it to your new device.
Apparently ADB backup is broke, it does not respect the -noshared flag and the resulting file is corrupted requiring more processing on the file for it to work... dang it! Seems it has been fixed in JB...
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=28303
http://www.acertabletforum.com/foru...stem-backup-ics-only-root-not-required-2.html
and there is more if you search the net.... Now, why will they not fix it is beyond me. Ok, so the command does not respect -noshared, that is easy to fix, I can just pull my sd card out but making an otherwise broken and unusable file giving the user the false sense of security and not fixing the bug is plain wrong... The only option will be to upgrade to JB but the official upgrade is not out and knowing at&t I wont be for a bit... I am not much into flashing leaked rom although that might change in the near future...
Thanks.
Fernandq said:
Apparently ADB backup is broke, it does not respect the -noshared flag and the resulting file is corrupted requiring more processing on the file for it to work... dang it! Seems it has been fixed in JB...
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=28303
http://www.acertabletforum.com/foru...stem-backup-ics-only-root-not-required-2.html
and there is more if you search the net.... Now, why will they not fix it is beyond me. Ok, so the command does not respect -noshared, that is easy to fix, I can just pull my sd card out but making an otherwise broken and unusable file giving the user the false sense of security and not fixing the bug is plain wrong... The only option will be to upgrade to JB but the official upgrade is not out and knowing at&t I wont be for a bit... I am not much into flashing leaked rom although that might change in the near future...
Thanks.
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Well crap man, that sucks - sorry! I'm not gonna lie, I didn't read the link you posted as I'm pulling all nighters about 3 times a week during for the busy season of my profession (see my user name lol)...but you're saying that something actually went WRONG with the SDK on ICS firmware - and Google isn't fixing it?? That can't be right...right?
I can personally couch for this method, as I used it to make a full unrooted backup - of stock 4.0.4 ICS - back in October when I rooted my Note for the first time. And the first thing I did (per the rooting tutorial I was following) was verify the backup by doing a restore via ADB before I rooted - and everything worked fine. Like I said, sorry it's not working for you! Have you considered rooting, installing a custom recovery, doing a nandroid backup (and saving it someplace safe of course), then doing a full unroot back to stock + reset your flash counter? There are some great tutorials to walk you through all of that on the Galaxy Note Everything Thread in the General forum, in case that's an option.
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Well crap man, that sucks - sorry! I'm not gonna lie, I didn't read the link you posted as I'm pulling all nighters about 3 times a week during for the busy season of my profession (see my user name lol)...but you're saying that something actually went WRONG with the SDK on ICS firmware - and Google isn't fixing it?? That can't be right...right?
I can personally couch for this method, as I used it to make a full unrooted backup - of stock 4.0.4 ICS - back in October when I rooted my Note for the first time. And the first thing I did (per the rooting tutorial I was following) was verify the backup by doing a restore via ADB before I rooted - and everything worked fine. Like I said, sorry it's not working for you! Have you considered rooting, installing a custom recovery, doing a nandroid backup (and saving it someplace safe of course), then doing a full unroot back to stock + reset your flash counter? There are some great tutorials to walk you through all of that on the Galaxy Note Everything Thread in the General forum, in case that's an option.
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As mentioned in my post....
Root, full backup, and unroot is the fastest method......g
gregsarg said:
As mentioned in my post....
Root, full backup, and unroot is the fastest method......g
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But what's the point in putting things simply like that when I can write an entire paragraph saying the same thing, but more confusing??
Hello there people!
As you all know every Android user finally goes for the thing called "Rooting" so yes I'm an beginner over it and read alot of discussions but still couldn't find Convincing discussion so I need complete procedure about the Stock ROM and how to back it up in order to Step backward towards it just in case if something strange happens. YES I'll flash a Custom ROM so i'll take the guide as well.
THANKYOU.
Hi there. One thing you will find out about quickly, is that many methods to modify your phone are very specific. Not only to what manufacturer, but what model, what update it is on, if it was purchased from a carrier or unbranded and unlocked, and whether or not there are any warranty issues to consider. Most of the time you can return the device to exactly as your received it and sometimes there is something that is triggered that can not be reset that will show you've modified the phone. So, let us know what you have and we can get you pointed in the right direction to get started.
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Hi there. One thing you will find out about quickly, is that many methods to modify your phone are very specific. Not only to what manufacturer, but what model, what update it is on, if it was purchased from a carrier or unbranded and unlocked, and whether or not there are any warranty issues to consider. Most of the time you can return the device to exactly as your received it and sometimes there is something that is triggered that can not be reset that will show you've modified the phone. So, let us know what you have and we can get you pointed in the right direction to get started.
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I have the "Quatro Z4" of the Qmobile company i.e Unbranded but that doesn't mean the unbranded stuff can't get rooted. Yeah I am seeking perfect rooting options and Recovery options with perfect Stock rom Backup.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2542825
This guide has everything you need to root and to use the ClockworkMod recovery which will allow you to make a full backup of your current system (these backups are called Nandroids)
I haven't had a chance to look around to see if there are any roms for it yet, but that guide should be a good head start. I would recommend reading through the thread first to make sure there won't be any surprises.
es0tericcha0s said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2542825
This guide has everything you need to root and to use the ClockworkMod recovery which will allow you to make a full backup of your current system (these backups are called Nandroids)
I haven't had a chance to look around to see if there are any roms for it yet, but that guide should be a good head start. I would recommend reading through the thread first to make sure there won't be any surprises.
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Didn't get you mate? What exactly do I have to do?
I'm not sure what you are having trouble with...? The link I gave you breaks down the steps you need to get started pretty simply...