I'm using Clockworkmod 6.0.1 to backup. Is this called nandroid backup ? So it backs up about 10-15mins and it's only 10mb size~?? I was backing up custom rom. I also have copy of my original rom wich is a bit more that 1GB tar file. But why now if only take 10mb with 15min backing time?
I was backing data on external sd card. Before backup it had 9gb free space, but after only 7gb. I went to folder where backup is "Computer\GT-I9300\Card\clockworkmod\backup\2012-08-26.18.42.40" and there is only 16.9 mb total of all the files instead of those 2 gb.
Also what give "free nandroid space" option. I did it and it fried about 2gb on internal memory.
Well, with clockworkmod 6 and up, the first nandroid is always big while future nandroids are incremental. Why? Well, it creates a blobs folder of around 2gb with everything, then folders for each rom which are about 10-20mb each. Every new ROM that's backed up only add what's not already there in the blobs file, i.e. it uses stuff from your previous nandroids if nothing new has been added to conserve space.
Instead of having 10 nandroids with all being 2gb, it now only takes a huge 2gb nandroid and only add what's new from newer nandroids.
Kinda hard to explain as I don't really know how to put it.
There are some issues still with this version of CWM. I'd stick with v 5 until they are worked out. They have to do with the way the internal and external SD structure is for the device and both the SII and SIII are effected by it. If you try to restore, it will probably fail.
Done it myself on my SII. I've since learned and stay with v 5 until 6 is solid, and that might be a while. The incremental update feature with blobs is nice, and I hope it works right. It's never worked right for me yet, however. Maybe things are fixed by now. I'm not sure.
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Well, with clockworkmod 6 and up, the first nandroid is always big while future nandroids are incremental. Why? Well, it creates a blobs folder of around 2gb with everything, then folders for each rom which are about 10-20mb each. Every new ROM that's backed up only add what's not already there in the blobs file, i.e. it uses stuff from your previous nandroids if nothing new has been added to conserve space.
Instead of having 10 nandroids with all being 2gb, it now only takes a huge 2gb nandroid and only add what's new from newer nandroids.
Kinda hard to explain as I don't really know how to put it.
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Wow... Very nice space saver, but i will revert to v5 now. Thanks!
Pickepys said:
Wow... Very nice space saver, but i will revert to v5 now. Thanks!
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It sure is, and would be great if it CWM6 actually worked on our phones.
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It sure is, and would be great if it CWM6 actually worked on our phones.
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One more thing. I just deleted backup folder on external sd card wich was about 1gb with blobs folder (wich was just few kilobaits) and gained 3gb of space back. How i can view those HIDDEN FILES throught pc i always wondered.
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One more thing. I just deleted backup folder on external sd card wich was about 1gb with blobs folder (wich was just few kilobaits) and gained 3gb of space back. How i can view those HIDDEN FILES throught pc i always wondered.
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No idea. Not too familiar with CWN6. I've only used it very briefly.
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There are some issues still with this version of CWM. I'd stick with v 5 until they are worked out. They have to do with the way the internal and external SD structure is for the device and both the SII and SIII are effected by it. If you try to restore, it will probably fail.
Done it myself on my SII. I've since learned and stay with v 5 until 6 is solid, and that might be a while. The incremental update feature with blobs is nice, and I hope it works right. It's never worked right for me yet, however. Maybe things are fixed by now. I'm not sure.
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I've had a couple of hiccups since v6 too. The backups have failed on me and I think it's since I moved the files (backup. and BLOBS) to a different location (ext sd or pc) prior to doing a full system wipe.
Gutted that I lost stuff as a result because I'd used it successfully lots of times and trusted it to work.
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Hi all,
I have been wondering. I have been using Apps2SD for ages and lately I wiped my phone and gave the new SuperHero ROM a go (a nice ROM btw). But, as usual, when restoring apps with Titanium Backup, they ended up in the internal memory. Did I do something wrong? I recall having much more activity (folders, files) on my SD-card as well, but now only few apps make folders (such as FeedR, still does, but very few).
Seeing as low memory on the phone really knocks down performance, I'd like to find out how to change this so everything possible gets to the SD? And keep it like that, when I restore after wipes?
Bonus q : is the internal memory faster than my high performance 8GB flash card?
Cheers!
Regards
check the villainrom wiki, there is a method to check if your apps2sd is working.
Thanks. That lead me further on to the solution.
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Thanks. That lead me further on to the solution.
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So, I was looking at my SD Card info through settings and I only have 2.43gb free. I only have 7 songs, not many photos, videos or anything else. I went through my SD and cleaned it up, but nothing changed.
I am running SC 2.5v no theme, and nothing really on my SD card for roms, themes or anything like that. I know this is a stretch, but what could be taking so much memory on the SD. I don't have titanium, i have cleaned my back ups and don't back up my apps... I know. Crazy. Anyone have any ideas. I know you don't know what is on my SD but, anyone have this issue as well?
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So, I was looking at my SD Card info through settings and I only have 2.43gb free. I only have 7 songs, not many photos, videos or anything else. I went through my SD and cleaned it up, but nothing changed.
I am running SC 2.5v no theme, and nothing really on my SD card for roms, themes or anything like that. I know this is a stretch, but what could be taking so much memory on the SD. I don't have titanium, i have cleaned my back ups and don't back up my apps... I know. Crazy. Anyone have any ideas. I know you don't know what is on my SD but, anyone have this issue as well?
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Did you partition your sd card?
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No. Should I? I have never ran across anyone doing that on a Fascinate...
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That could probably explain why.
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Mount the SD card on your computer and then select all the files in explorer (turn on show system files and hidden files first!), and check their total size (size and size on disk). If the size on disk for all the files is far lower than the amount reported as being used for the volume, something odd is probably up.
If the 'size on disk' is actually about the same as the amount of used space on the volume, you can then start checking the folders/files to see what's taking up the space.
@Jason Black: Why'd you want to repartition it? Or did you mean reformat it?
Another thing you could do is look for hidden files on windows when u open up removable drive then on the upper the upper left hand side hit tools then view then scroll down and hit the bubble that says show hidden files and see if thats what's taking up space
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Mount the SD card on your computer and then select all the files in explorer (turn on show system files and hidden files first!), and check their total size (size and size on disk). If the size on disk for all the files is far lower than the amount reported as being used for the volume, something odd is probably up.
If the 'size on disk' is actually about the same as the amount of used space on the volume, you can then start checking the folders/files to see what's taking up the space.
@Jason Black: Why'd you want to repartition it? Or did you mean reformat it?
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Non of that. I was simply asking of the sd card was partitioned.
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Do you use ROM Manager, or have you used it? Also, do you have/use Titanium backup to create backups or have you done any nandroid backups in CWM? Also, if you download things on your phone, that would be another thing to check and clear out.
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Do you use ROM Manager, or have you used it? Also, do you have/use Titanium backup to create backups or have you done any nandroid backups in CWM? Also, if you download things on your phone, that would be another thing to check and clear out.
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Do you use ROM Manager, or have you used it? Also, do you have/use Titanium backup to create backups or have you done any nandroid backups in CWM? Also, if you download things on your phone, that would be another thing to check and clear out.
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Yeah you can try clearing download cache in rom manager and also, those nanbackups take up a good amount of space if you have a lot of apps and data. I also have 2.40g left. Thats a lot of space unless you are downloading movies lol.
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I recently had that issue and went through my sd card and deleted unnecessary files. Old Roms such as superclean 2.1-2.3 I found in multiple places each taking up about 150MB. The main culprit was the nandroid backups. I had 4 backups each took up about a gig. They were in the clockwork mod folder. Im now limiting myself to 1 backup at a time.
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I had a lot of lost space on my card a while back. I suspect from removing the card/inserting the card while still mounted and losing clusters.
I simply put the card in my PC. Backed it up to my hard disk (hidden files and all). Formatted the card. Copied the files back. This restored the lost space. (and gave me a backup too which is handy)
Thanks everyone for the replies. I only have 3 nandroid back ups so far. I have rom manager, but the one adrynalyne posted with fix permissions. I have titanium, but dont use it.
I will mount my SD card to my comp and take a look at it. See if I can find hidden files.
Ok. I figures it out. I use a PC for rooting purpose stuff, but put a bunch of files on my SD card from a mac. Well I found out that when you delete files on your sd card from a mac.
It creats a hidden folder call .trash where it stores everything you delete. I used stock "My Files" hit menu when open, click more, setting then select show hidden files. You can delete all .trash or whatever .(folder) there. That is the hidden files mac create.
I hope this can help someone. Once i deleted those folders, I wernt from 1.8gb to 12.58 gb.
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Ok. I figures it out. I use a PC for rooting purpose stuff, but put a bunch of files on my SD card from a mac. Well I found out that when you delete files on your sd card from a mac.
It creats a hidden folder call .trash where it stores everything you delete. I used stock "My Files" hit menu when open, click more, setting then select show hidden files. You can delete all .trash or whatever .(folder) there. That is the hidden files mac create.
I hope this can help someone. Once i deleted those folders, I wernt from 1.8gb to 12.58 gb.
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Macs also create other dot files when coping data, including a dot file for every file you copy over (it's to store the file's metadata... that's really not useful), as well as some others. Some poster around here has a link in his sig with a 'guide' on disabling those things...
In my /sdcard/clockworkmod/backup folder i have 9 backups. I'm guessing I might want to keep the oldest one in case it has a backup of my stock phone (I'm rooted now) and the latest one. The rest can be deleted, right?
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I recently had that issue and went through my sd card and deleted unnecessary files. Old Roms such as superclean 2.1-2.3 I found in multiple places each taking up about 150MB. The main culprit was the nandroid backups. I had 4 backups each took up about a gig. They were in the clockwork mod folder. Im now limiting myself to 1 backup at a time.
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In my /sdcard/clockworkmod/backup folder i have 9 backups. I'm guessing I might want to keep the oldest one in case it has a backup of my stock phone (I'm rooted now) and the latest one. The rest can be deleted, right?
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TBH I haven't made a back-up since december 2010 and have deleted all mine long ago. With odin/TiBkup I find it to be an error free process. Restores always seem to have their own issues so I just gave up on them. But yes you can delete all older ones and keep the most current.
good day.
^^ same here. Haven't done a nandroid since November. Nandroid backups are a pain. It only takes like 10 minutes to get all your settings back the way you want them after a good ol' clean odin. Plus titanium backup, of course
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Agreed. Delete all your old backups. I had about 10 on mine at one pint. They eat about 1gb each
I've been KANGBANGED!!!!!
I've done a Nandroid restore a couple of times now and it went smoothly. A couple of cache and Dcache clears before, wipe data, clear caches again, install ROM, clear caches a couple of times, boot to make sure the ROM functions, then recovery, cache clearing, then advanced restore and restoring just data works for me. I used to use TiBu to restore everything but this has been working out fine, although I'd heard some people had problems with it. Although now that I think about it, I've only done this when re-flashing the same ROM as before. Maybe with different ROMS some things don't play nicely.
Still, I don't need 9 backups just sitting there taking up space, so thanks for the go ahead on deleting them. And I still do TiBu and MyBu backups because I've found you can never have too many resources when things go bad!
How much space is needed to do a backup from CWM? I have like...2.35GB left of internal SD space. There is no microSD card in my Tablet. Think i would have enough room to do a backup?
Edit: Come onnnnn...if someone knows...RESPOND. Dont just be nosy and read the thread. Title says it all. Wouldnt have to open and read if u didnt know. Just makin it clear.
You'll be fine.
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You'll be fine.
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Ok..but would you or anyone know how much in GB space is needed? And where does it backup at?
Plus..ive NEVER rebooted into CWM before ever. I got my GTab already flashed with VEGAn Tab 7.0. Never had a reason to BOOT into it. I see people on here get into a stuck loop. Where there GTab REBOOTS into CWM all the time. What causes that? Dont want it to happen to me. I dont know. Not flash savy.
This will get you out of any potential troubles
http://viewsonic-gtablet-for-dummies.webs.com/
The backup will be less than 1gb, but it depends on how loaded up your gtab is.
the backup is saved to the internal sd card. clockworkmod>backup
Each backup is stored in a time stamped folder. To backup the backup, copy the entire time stamped folder.
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This will get you out of any potential troubles
http://viewsonic-gtablet-for-dummies.webs.com/
The backup will be less than 1gb, but it depends on how loaded up your gtab is.
the backup is saved to the internal sd card. clockworkmod>backup
Each backup is stored in a time stamped folder. To backup the backup, copy the entire time stamped folder.
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Right..but think about it. The GTab has 16GB internal SD right? I have 2.35 left. So thats saying im using what....10 or more GB. Where are they gonna back that up at? I only have 2.35 left on the internal SD? No external SD in my GTab.
Edit: Wait..it doesnt backup whats on my Internal SD right..only whats on the Internal Memory of the phone. I have 1.84 TotalGb and 1.25 available on my phone. I think im right about this.
Edit 2: Another thing...when i click backup in CWM..that backs up my VEGAn Tab 7.0 ROM to right? What size is a ROM?
By the way...i have VEGAn Tab 7.0 Gingerbread Edition...my kernal says: 2.6.32.36-cyanogenmod [email protected] #1. Would SetCPU work well with what i just typed? Only answer if you know for sure.
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I've just done a factory reset using Titanium Backup and the Nova Launcher backup system. It was a complete disaster (well, maybe not complete--I needed the cleanup) as neither of the backups functioned correctly and I lost all my apps, etc. After restoring from scratch, I did a bit of research. By default, both Titanium and Nova backups were saved to sdcard0 (as opposed to externalsdcard). I'm a relative newbie to the S3, but I think sdcard0 is the internal phone storage and therefore wiped when I did the factory reset. Am I correct?
If so, I have to wonder why both backups defaulted to this storage location. I've since moved both folders to external sd card and changed the backup paths on both apps. To preclude similar disasters, can I rename the somewhat confusing sdcard0 to something more recognisable (internal or phone storage seems reasonable) or would this cause more mayhem?
If I'm completely out to lunch with all of this, can someone educate me on the mysteries of the S3's storage configuration
Thanks in advance
Warthog
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If so, I have to wonder why both backups defaulted to this storage location. I've since moved both folders to external sd card and changed the backup paths on both apps. To preclude similar disasters, can I rename the somewhat confusing sdcard0 to something more recognisable (internal or phone storage seems reasonable) or would this cause more mayhem?
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The default is there since there are phones which have no extSDcard (the very cheap Android models and going up to Nexus and even more expensive models).
Do not rename anything - just remember that extSDcard (or the SECOND card that you get to see) is the 'removable' one.
Also note that even sdcard0 is not wiped by "normal wiping", and you probably issued a specific command in recovery or something in order to reformat that!
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The default is there since there are phones which have no extSDcard (the very cheap Android models and going up to Nexus and even more expensive models).
Do not rename anything - just remember that extSDcard (or the SECOND card that you get to see) is the 'removable' one.
Also note that even sdcard0 is not wiped by "normal wiping", and you probably issued a specific command in recovery or something in order to reformat that!
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Many thanks, XClub!
I certainly don't remember issuing any command that would have reformatted the sdcard0, but you never know. Was I right in redirecting both backups to the extSDcard?
At some time you have flashed an Aosp 4.2.x Rom or the 4.2.1 leak.
As this has facility for users your sd card is formatted to accommodate different user data via an emulated set up.
To get things back to normal on 4.1.2 I suggest backing up your sd card and formatting it in settings/storage.
Hi Slaphead and thanks
I had to chuckle at your reply, because I wouldn't know how to flash a ROM (or a leak) if you took me by the hand to show me
Surely that's not something I could have done inadvertently? Anyway, if you're suggesting I backup and format the SD Card, can you give me a couple pointers so I don't screw it up somehow?
Cheers
Warthog
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Hi Slaphead and thanks
I had to chuckle at your reply, because I wouldn't know how to flash a ROM (or a leak) if you took me by the hand to show me
Surely that's not something I could have done inadvertently? Anyway, if you're suggesting I backup and format the SD Card, can you give me a couple pointers so I don't screw it up somehow?
Cheers
Warthog
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Sorry,I read in haste!
Titanium does default to storing on internal sd, so a factory reset would wipe the backup, ditto nova launcher, so in titanium set folder to backup to external sd, no need to worry too much about nova as the titanium backup of it will restore its layout.
Apologies for the confusion, my fault!
Thanks again--I've already set up Titanium to back up to external card, so the next time I contemplate a factory reset, I can do so without fear!! :fingers-crossed:
yeah, and next time ask in the correct section
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yeah, and next time ask in the correct section
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I'll try--hope you have a better day tomorrow (and, oh, dear, I forgot to hit Thanks)
I just rooted with Casual and installed MeanBean rom. I am completely new and with a lot of reading and great information that I found here I managed not to brick my Note2. After all this and the latest MeanBean update I am getting a storage space notification stating I do not have enough storage space on my internal 16gb drive. Miscellaneous files is consuming most with 14.20 gb, of that S Note- 23.96 gb and .All Share Play-22.79 gb .Are those files that big or do I have multiple versions somehow installed. I am not sure what direction to go? I have read about Directory Bind but unsure if that will conflict with Mean Bean,which is by the way is great. Thanks for your time and advice.
There is not a lot of space free on internal storage. A nandroid backup, and a couple of ROMs and you can be running out of space. If you don't have one get an SdCard and use that backups, download, media files etc.
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There is not a lot of space free on internal storage. A nandroid backup, and a couple of ROMs and you can be running out of space. If you don't have one get an SdCard and use that backups, download, media files etc.
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I have an external Sd card but not sure what to use move the files over with. Thanks
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I have an external Sd card but not sure what to use move the files over with. Thanks
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I use Solid Explorer its a great File Manager and has a duel screen so I can easily move files from internal to external. Costs a few bucks but well worth it for me.
Root Explorer has worked great for me for years.
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Root Explorer has worked great for me for years.
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Thanks to all for the advice and help.
You might try downloading the app called DiskUsage from the playstore. It is free and it will show you exactly what is using your internal space even if they are files you or some app has inadvertantly hidden. I found that I had two copies of the data for SE's chaos rings on mine after a crack flash bender, and I also found a lot of podcast files that were supposed to have been automatically deleted by the app but got left behind. All in all about 1.5 gb of junk that showed up as misc. files on mine. If you play any of the bigger games out there, you may still run into issues.
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I've been using disk/file analyzers as well to make sure I'm not filling up internal storage. It's a great tool rather than clicking in and out of folders.
You can also manage files on your device while connected to your computer.
Besides Root Explorer, I'll add a vote for ES File Manager.
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Rom Toolbox Pro has an option to backup all your backups to several different cloud services. I'm gonna have to resort to using the cloud soon, unfortunately.