Hi - probably a stupid question, but when I open up Titanium Backup... on the home page, it shows the space available for the various partitions: System ROM, Internal, SD Card, and Ext SD Card. I notice that my System ROM partition is 87% full (87MB free, out of 667MB total).
When I first noticed this, I started to move some more apps to SD card, hoping to clear up some space. I think I moved about 15 apps, some of which were pretty large (Angry Birds, Angry Birds Rio, Firefox, for example). Yet, after a reboot, the System ROM space availability was exactly the same. What gives? Is this a fault in Titanium Backup? (dev won't answer any questions.. so I'm asking here...) If it's just a fault, then how do I know what an accurate space availability is?
Thanks in advance!
Hey gang,
Ok - so it's been a few months since my last post about this. I've even updated to JB a few weeks ago too. Removed a bunch of apps entirely, moved some more to SD Card, and now I have even less System ROM space - I'm down to 2kB What gives? Does anybody understand how this is calculated? Why is it showing such a small amt of free space? 2kB available should mean that my phone would lock up because there's no space available, I would think.
Does anyone know how to create more space? Just about a week or two ago I had 30MB avail, now down to 2kB!
Are you on xt912?
System is only for "main ROM" not really a biggie
Apps use internal for data
Sd card is for your data
Sd card ext is well the removable sd card
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Oops - sry, yes, I'm on 98.72.16.xt912.Verizon.en.us - CDMA - JB 4.1.2, using stock OTA update without any custom recoveries at the moment (I'm still deciding if I want to put BootStrap back on, or change to SafeStrap).
I guess I'm not overly concerned about the minimal space to the ROM, but 2kB! C'mon, that's virtually out of space. I have a hard time figuring out why I have so little space. If Verizon pushes out any updates (that's a huge IF), then I won't have any room to update. That could cause an issue, don't you think? How much space do you have on your ROM?
I have 37mb available in my system, i do remember on ics there was video in the system that could be removed to free up around 40mb.. Worth a look to see if it's hidden somewhere , although root access is probably needed. Lucky for me i have it
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I might have to remove the vids - where are they located? Are they the ones in the /preinstall/KnowYourDevice/ folder??
If so, I removed them and placed them on my PC. System ROM size didn't change. hmph
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TI Backup is showing I have 456 apps installed which includes everything that came with the phone. I hear there is no limit (my old windows 6.5 phone was limited to 50 apps...after that all of the apps disappeared from the deinstall menu and you had to manually delete something to see them all again). Everything is installed to the internal card, nothing installed on the external SD card. I still have almost 9 gigs of free space so it is conceivable that 1500 apps is possible, though the phone may start to slow down at some point. With TI backup eating space along with the phone's built in android backup turned on I don't know how much of the free space will be eaten up.
So anyone over the 450 number?
There is a smaller area of the SD card put aside for apps..
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I was on 448 but just downloaded another 3 to break 450. TiBu reporting 451 now. LOL
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I don't see why you can't have as many apps as will fit on the internal storage...
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There is a smaller area of the SD card put aside for apps..
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Is there a way to increase the size?
Tibu says I only have 204....best start downloading so app's....lol
space for apps
If there is a finite amout of space available for apps then there is definitely an upper limit to how many apps can be installed. i may be close to the limit since i tried installing a large app from amazon and received a message saying there was insufficient space. After I deinstalled Angry Birds Rio the nessage went away and the app installed. So to increase the amount of available space for apps you either have to increase the amount of allocated space for apps (whereever that directory is), delete other optional files like pics and music, or perhaps reformat.....I remember seeing soem sort of reformat option somewhere...maybe this post belongs in the dev forum since they are savvy with the system.
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If there is a finite amout of space available for apps then there is definitely an upper limit to how many apps can be installed. i may be close to the limit since i tried installing a large app from amazon and received a message saying there was insufficient space. After I deinstalled Angry Birds Rio the nessage went away and the app installed. So to increase the amount of available space for apps you either have to increase the amount of allocated space for apps (whereever that directory is), delete other optional files like pics and music, or perhaps reformat.....I remember seeing soem sort of reformat option somewhere...maybe this post belongs in the dev forum since they are savvy with the system.
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Sounds like you need Apps2sd.
Yes. I just got apps to SD. I didn't know any apps were on the SD card, I am still curious exactly.how much space is available on the phone. I'll have to copy over the apps to my 2nd SD card.
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My niece is having issues with her Amaze 4G. The application memory is full (the 2Gb partition) is full, but after reviewing the list of apps in Manage Applications, there isn't 2 Gb's worth. All apps have the Move to SD button grayed out. I am unsure how to move items over to the other internal partition (10Gb). Please advise, and thank you.
any ideas??
some games have a big package that downloads with them and i dont think it shows in the apps size.
doesnt sound like you have a external sd so you should probly get one
maybe some more details would help
There is a 32gb sd card in the phone, and the 10 gb internal memory partition is empty. I've also put Apps2SD on the phone but it only recommended to move 4 apps, each of which were less than 1mb. In the Manage Apps list the largest app was Facebook at 50mb, with a series of others dropping in size quickly after that. It seems to me that the phone has been saving all app data to the 2gb parition but I can't see it in ES File Explorer to manage.
Also what common apps can typically be moved to the SD card?
Thanks!
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jcicora said:
There is a 32gb sd card in the phone, and the 10 gb internal memory partition is empty. I've also put Apps2SD on the phone but it only recommended to move 4 apps, each of which were less than 1mb. In the Manage Apps list the largest app was Facebook at 50mb, with a series of others dropping in size quickly after that. It seems to me that the phone has been saving all app data to the 2gb parition but I can't see it in ES File Explorer to manage.
Also what common apps can typically be moved to the SD card?
Thanks!
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50 mb for facebook is huge. try getting a cache cleaner and movetosd
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...251bGwsMSwxLDEsIm1vYmkuaW5mb2xpZmUuY2FjaGUiXQ..
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...xLDEsImNvbS5jdXJ2ZWZpc2guYXBwcy5tb3ZldG9zZCJd
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50 mb for facebook is huge. try getting a cache cleaner and movetosd
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Sorry forgot to mention that I installed ES Task Manager and cleared the cache for all the apps. The 50mb is all app & data. Is Move2SD different than Apps2SD?
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My fb is only 25
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Download superbox in Google play and from there can move files over easily to the SD. It will auto generate which files you can move.
Has a nice battery widget as well.
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I'm having the same issue with my Amaze, I don't have an SD Card yet, I can't up date my applications!
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I'm having the same issue with my Amaze, I don't have an SD Card yet, I can't up date my applications!
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I believe the problem you guy are having might be related to a full cache...use a file explorer to check /cache and see if there any files in there. If you see a bunch of apk's in there, that's your issue. You can delete them all no worries, but dont delete any folders
How do you use a file explorer? Thanks.
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download es file explorer or astro
Downloaded that application and no apk files there it's getting annoying because I have a load of applications to update.
What I would do is move all the apps back to the phone and save any files that are needed/wanted to the pc. Then go and clear phones internal sd card. Then move everything back.
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What I would do is move all the apps back to the phone and save any files that are needed/wanted to the pc. Then go and clear phones internal sd card. Then move everything back.
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I don't have an sd card!
The phone comes with an INTERNAL sdcard. That's where moving applications to sdcard goes to.
Go to Settings> Applications > Manage Applications then go to each app and move it back to the phone if it gives that option. When you're done connect the phone to the pc and transfer any wanted files to the pc....this is called backing up your sdcard. When you're done with that then go to Settings > Storage and pick Erase Phone Storage. It will erase everything on the phones INTERNAL sdcard. That's why we backed everything up.
Now first thing you should do is move your apps back to the INTERNAL sdcard. So go to Settings > Storage >Make More Space and you can mass move any of the apps that you wish to move back to the phones INTERNAL sdcard. When that's done you can opt to move the files you saved on the pc back to the phones Internal sdcard.
You should also have your niece or her parents invest in an sdcard to put into the sdcard slot. So any pictures or music should be saved on that instead of using the phones internal sdcard. I would suggest a SanDisk 8gb or bigger with at least a Class 4 rating.
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I'm having the same issue. When I go to update apps from Google Play, I get an "Insufficient Storage Available" error.
Astro doens't show anything in /cache, but I have a feeling that's due to it not having global read access. The 2.5GB partition only has ~200MB free. I started with tons of apps installed, and I've had to start moving them off to SD or uninstalling to free up enough space to update the apps I really care about. The thing is, the size total for apps shown in the settings menu is constantly droping, but the total free space always ends up back around ~200MB. It's almost as if some app on the phone is filling up a cache or log file and isn't cleaning up after itself.
What folders in root comprise the 2.5GB partition? I'd like to see if I can determine where all the space is going. I've had an open ticket with HTC on this issue, and their solution is to factory reset. They're supposed to call me tomorrow night to work through this (I know how to factory reset, just want to hear what they say). I don't want to factory reset until I figure out why I'm running out of space as I figure I'll just end up in this same situation again.
It's very strange that many people are having this problem with the stock rom. Have you guys checked the available storage space by going in to the setting/storage? You should see 'Internal Storage' on the top. Do you have more than 50mb free? Theoretically, 50mb should be enough to update most apps through the Market (Play Store). Did you clear cache using the 'Make more space' option? What happened when you did it?
If you have enough space, yet cannot update apps, you probably have junk files sitting in some other partitions that are not included in 'available storage' calculations. If that's the case, then moving apps to sd card won't fix the problem. If your phone is rooted, it would be a lot easier to diagnose the issue and correct it. Without root, I can only think of one option; factory reset will probably fix the problem.
By the way, if you have to factory reset and loose the existing data anyway, you might want to use the opportunity to unlock the bootloder and root it at the same time.
I got two times the memory full message with Android 4.0 even there was enough space. After reboot it disappeared.
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oryan_dunn said:
I'm having the same issue. When I go to update apps from Google Play, I get an "Insufficient Storage Available" error.
Astro doens't show anything in /cache, but I have a feeling that's due to it not having global read access. The 2.5GB partition only has ~200MB free. I started with tons of apps installed, and I've had to start moving them off to SD or uninstalling to free up enough space to update the apps I really care about. The thing is, the size total for apps shown in the settings menu is constantly droping, but the total free space always ends up back around ~200MB. It's almost as if some app on the phone is filling up a cache or log file and isn't cleaning up after itself.
What folders in root comprise the 2.5GB partition? I'd like to see if I can determine where all the space is going. I've had an open ticket with HTC on this issue, and their solution is to factory reset. They're supposed to call me tomorrow night to work through this (I know how to factory reset, just want to hear what they say). I don't want to factory reset until I figure out why I'm running out of space as I figure I'll just end up in this same situation again.
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Without root, you won't be able to see much using Astro (or any file manager) because of the read restrictions on many directories. I believe you are correct about the system not cleaning up junk files. And unfortunately, they won't be accessible without root unless HTC included such an utility program to clean it in the stock rom. I doubt it, though, because their 'make space' process only gives you the option to clear cache and delete/move apps.
I know factory reset is not pleasant if you have lots of app data you want to keep. Time to root, maybe?
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I got two times the memory full message with Android 4.0 even there was enough space. After reboot it disappeared.
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One S? Are you in the wrong forum?
Anyway, what were you doing when you got the error message? Downloading something? ICS may have a better cleanup routine than GB built in so that rebooting would solve the problem... Or you haven't used your device long enough to accumulate junks.
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My question is why hasn't someone clever enough made a script or mod to make the SDCard the default on stock Samsung ROMs that can be flashed instead of the internal memory. I have searched to no avail. And if you seriously think a mere 11GB is enough you need to have your head examined.
I can't use CyanogenMod because even with it's "stable" 7.2, it's still unstable, even on the stock kernel. And even though the Stock ROM is bloatware from Hell, I'd take stability and bloat over random hangs and reboots. It's just that 11GB isn't enough when you've a 32GB card lyin' around collecting dust.
I'm technical enough to use the command line, but I'm just too lazy. I'd gladly donate a few bucks/buy a beer for an earnest devs time just for the sake of convenience.
So why hasn't anyone done it yet? I call fail on hobbyist devs everywhere. This is kind'a sad, y'know (Yes, I'm from Wisconsin).
ive been using cm9 for weeks/months without any crashes/hangs? So its not the rom but your apps that causing problems.
Why dont you try an app2sd app?
Ive never filled my 11GB of internal storage with apps because all my video's and pictures are on my external sd and my big apps (games and gps) automaticly save on external sdcard aswell.
How many apps do you get? because 11gb of just apps is alot... I think you should better do a full wipe and install your apps again one by one.
Also check the lost.dir map everything in there may be deleted, i once had 2 gig of data in it.
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ive been using cm9 for weeks/months without any crashes/hangs? So its not the rom but your apps that causing problems.
Why dont you try an app2sd app?
Ive never filled my 11GB of internal storage with apps because all my video's and pictures are on my external sd and my big apps (games and gps) automaticly save on external sdcard aswell.
How many apps do you get? because 11gb of just apps is alot... I think you should better do a full wipe and install your apps again one by one.
Also check the lost.dir map everything in there may be deleted, i once had 2 gig of data in it.
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Full disclosure: I bounce around from CM7, to stock, to CM9, and everytime it's a full wipe.
I'm sick of random reboots and mobile data hangs on the CMs, which is why I'm on stock. App2SD is only a stopgap, I want a permanent solution, and having my SDcard as default rather than telling certain apps to save to it. That becomes tedious with 200+ apps.
Fuhu's Nabi 2 comes with 8 GB of internal storage, but the actual space available for app install evaporates quickly. Here are a few tips from my experience that may help you figure out possible space hogs.
Part of the problem is due to the Nabi 2's file storage system. Instead of its external storage being located at /mnt/sdcard, it is instead at /mnt/sdcard2. This causes problems as many programs will assume they are saving to the external drive at sdcard, but are instead using precious space on the limited internal drive.
There are a couple different work-around rooted options, but at this time they seem to me a bit like a bandage. If you feel like tackling these more advanced drive swapping options, see Root External 2 Internal SD (How-to for Nabi 2 by e2950) and DirectoryBind by slig (How-to for Nabi 2 by Clarkiss). Root External 2 Internal SD swaps the two. DirectoryBind causes apps to install their extra data to sdcard2.
The first thing to do when you've got a failure to install an app due to insufficient space is to check the device's storage. Get there by accessing Android's Settings, Storage, and when the graph and list come up on the right, touch Apps. You can sort by app size or by alphabetical. Sort by size and the list will show which apps are taking the most space. Another way to get to the same place is via Android's Settings, Apps, and select All at the top.
A. Easiest is removing unwanted demos and preinstalled apps. Touch the name of the app and select Uninstall. I am unsure if this will require root or not. I didn't try while still unrooted and don't know if some apps are locked in by Fuhu.
B. My first space hog was actually the Gallery. One of the first things we do after getting recovery and root on the Nabi 2 is to install GApps. In doing so, Google's Gallery replaces Fuhu's. I have uploaded many Picasa albums over time and, using my Google account on my son's Nabi 2, syncronized and downloaded 300 MB onto the internal storage.
Unsync and clear Google Gallery:
1. Open Android's Settings, Accounts & sync, [Your Google Account], Uncheck Sync Google Photos
2. Settings, Storage, Apps (All), Gallery, Force Stop, Clear Data
3. Reboot
After rebooting, the downloaded albums and photos Google had sync'd will be gone, freeing up precious internal space.
Update: More picture/video space hogging was found in /mnt/sdcard/DCIM/.thumbnails There were two thumbnail files adding up to 277MB hiding out.
C. Having multiple rooted android devices, one of the first things I set up after rooting is Titanium Backup (TB). Normally, TB saves its backed up files to sdcard. But, because sdcard is the Nabi 2's space constricted internal storage, this causes a problem quickly. The solution is to change TB's backup storage location. This can save hundreds of MBs. This was the first problem I tackled, so I don't remember how much
1. In Titanium Backup, open Preferences, Backup storage location
2. Change the default location from /mnt/sdcard/TitaniumBackup to /mnt/sdcard[BOLD]2[/BOLD]/TitaniumBackup
TB will handle copying your contents from the old directory to the new one.
D. My next surprise space hog was cloud storage app Box. Hogging a respectable 138 MB of files apparently sync'd/cached, this one was easy to clear.
1. In Box, open Settings, and touch Clear Cache under the Folder Activity heading.
These are basic, simple, and temporary tips which will only free a little more space to allow installation of that one last app you mean to get on your Nabi 2. Any other suggestions would be more than welcome.
I'm hoping that as the Nabi community matures and XDA grants us our own subforum (hint: lets do our best to stoke more Nabi 2 threads), that solutions are created to truly fix the lack of space to make this device pain free and open up its true potential.
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There are a couple different work-around rooted options, but at this time they seem to me a bit like a bandage. If you feel like tackling these more advanced drive swapping options, see Root External 2 Internal SD (How-to for Nabi 2 by e2950) and DirectoryBind by slig (How-to for Nabi 2 by Clarkiss). Root External 2 Internal SD swaps the two. DirectoryBind causes apps to install their extra data to sdcard2.
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This Root External 2 Internal SD (How-to for Nabi 2 by e2950) works great with my Nabi2. But does not work on boot. Does anybody knows why?
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This Root External 2 Internal SD (How-to for Nabi 2 by e2950) works great with my Nabi2. But does not work on boot. Does anybody knows why?
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I tried and tried myself too and never got it to work at boot or really even swap over the storage in any usable way. I have since given up on that.
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I tried and tried myself too and never got it to work at boot or really even swap over the storage in any usable way. I have since given up on that.
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I finally got it to work at boot and looked like everything was ok. Watched as I added apps and such, seemed that 80% of everything still installed to original Internal storage. Only real change was anything I downloaded went straight on micro sdcard. I also gave up.
Despite me using the external2internal app and it LOOKING like it was all swapped in the settings under data, the apps still all seem to go on the original tiny internal sd card and also when you use settings to look at installed apps, the free space it quotes tallies with the internal card, not the swapped-large-external card.
I can only assume something has gone a bit wrong in the settings of the app.
I dont understand how the nabi2 settings sees huge space under "storage" but tiny space under "apps" its as if the external2internal app has only swapped the two cards for "some" of the nabi's setup/brain
Any ideas please?
I was never able to get Ext2Int working properly so I abandoned that route.
Something that does work for me is [APP][ROOT] FolderMount - Link folders from internal SD to external to free space. It doesn't swap the internal for external outright, but does allow you to move specific data hogs to sdcard2. I still need to do a little walk through on it. . .
FM can move files from the original location to the destination of your choice if the files don't require root permissions. If they do, you have to move the files using a root file explorer of your choice.
FM will not work for moving apps due to its inherent time delay before actually changing the link to the new location. It's 30 seconds to 3 minutes after boot.
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I was never able to get Ext2Int working properly so I abandoned that route.
Something that does work for me is [APP][ROOT] FolderMount - Link folders from internal SD to external to free space. It doesn't swap the internal for external outright, but does allow you to move specific data hogs to sdcard2. I still need to do a little walk through on it. . .
FM can move files from the original location to the destination of your choice if the files don't require root permissions. If they do, you have to move the files using a root file explorer of your choice.
FM will not work for moving apps due to its inherent time delay before actually changing the link to the new location. It's 30 seconds to 3 minutes after boot.
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Thanks very much, Im not sure if that would work for me as most of my little boys apps are pretty small in size, most around the 20mb mark, with a few being 100mb so its not the big games or datahogs thats a problem, its the sheer weight of numbers of how many of these small apps he has installed.
So Im not sure if FM would actually be able to move any of his apps over to the external and actually work.
Even though he has so many apps, selective removing isnt a solution as he remembers them all. He is autistic trust me he remembers them hehe
Thanks and all help is appreciated.
Alex
DiskUsage is a good app to visually find large data stores. On my phone, I found Amazon caching all of the apps it had downloaded but I cancelled the installation on, over 1.5 GB! I don't use Amazon the same way on the Nabi though.
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DiskUsage is a good app to visually find large data stores. On my phone, I found Amazon caching all of the apps it had downloaded but I cancelled the installation on, over 1.5 GB! I don't use Amazon the same way on the Nabi though.
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Thanks I had a look at diskusage but honestly I am so noobish that I couldnt quite tell exactly what it was explaining to me.
Looking on things like data or apps there were things listed that almost seemed twice and also some noted as apk's and I wasnt sure if this was the game itself, of if it was the apk file that installed the game and the tablet is storing the apk's as well as the installed games.
As a beginer at this kind of thing, its quite hard to get your head around it all.
And we have now officially run out of space and trying to magane through as best we can.
Thanks for the suggestion
Alex
The actual APKs, not good to move with FolderMount. But, if there's a bit of data in /data/data, /data/obb, /android, FolderMount can move that to your external storage, freeing space for more apps. At least you looked into it. My son has a couple apps that take 100s of MBs of data. That makes freeing space easy.
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The actual APKs, not good to move with FolderMount. But, if there's a bit of data in /data/data, /data/obb, /android, FolderMount can move that to your external storage, freeing space for more apps. At least you looked into it. My son has a couple apps that take 100s of MBs of data. That makes freeing space easy.
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Thanks Ill have a look at that data aspect when I can next get the tablet off of him, Thanks I appreciate the advice.
Dont think Ive seen the obb folder...
When I plug the nabi into the PC lead and it pops up like an SD drive on my PC, there does seem to be a lot of folders that people mention that I dont seem to be able to see. Possibly like a kind of hidden folder? Also the size of the SD looked at through the PC always shows as much smaller than it is.
So Im really thinking that there is a chunk of the internal-sd card, or internal memory, that is hidden from the basic pc cable connection. Is that right and if-so how am I able to see that area to be able to back it up and/or be able to mess with it?
Thanks
Alex
I don't have a Nabi 2 anymore but have any of you used the app Link2sd? I've been using it on another 4 gig device and works really well. You have not split your micro sdcard into 2 partitions. Link2sd uses the second partition and you use the first as your micro sdcard. When you click Link app to SD, it moves it, then open app and see if it runs OK. If not you'll have to click move to SD to put it back so it will work.
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Yes. That and FolderMount are what keep my son's Nabi functional.
A 2 GB partition was a bit small for me though. For anyone that goes that route and had a large SD (64 GB), give the Link2SD partition at least 3 GB. I had to start over after doing it the first time.
Or, count and calculate the apps you mean to move them add extra space for future expansion. That'd be the smart way
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Im really dumb on these things and am terrified of busting my sons nabi (he relies upon it so much now).
So does this move the whole app, or just the data bits of the app? I heard that the bigger apps that are heavy on data move well, but the smaller apps that are mostly just the apk dont always move. Almost all my sons apps are the small kind. So Im not sure if this will still work.
Also, we hardly have anything at all to put on our external sd, we only bought it because we thought we could get apps on it. So is there any reason not to put a huge partition on the sd for the program? Our sd is 32gb, so I guess formats at about 28gb, so I was thinking of having the partition 25gb
Thanks for all the thoughts and help people.
PS: Is foldermount necessary as well? Or can I just try this with Link2SD? Im nervous enough about trying to learn one new software but integrating two at the same time concerns me somewhat.
Thanks
Alex
Some thoughts.
Honestly, from my experience with both, do Link to SD with a respectable partition. Something big enough to grow into, maybe 5 GB. Or, 10 since you say you have a lot of external SD space, but that is surely overkill since the apps data will burst your internal before the apps exceed 10 GB.
That allows you to move the largest apps to the external. Their data will still be on the internal though. That will be your next headache.
I find my FolderMount pairs frequently unpinned and I have to log into Daddy mode and re-enable them. I think that would not be good for you, alexbobspoons. When the FolderMount pairs are not enabled, some of the larger data apps (Mini Motor or My First Trainz Set) will download their data again when my son tries to play them (to internal since the pair is not active). My four year old will tell me now so I can straighten it out. I use FolderMount to move the entire /sdcard/android/data and /sdcard/android/obb folders to the external.
But, like I said, focus on Link to SD and that should free some storage pretty well. I found it a bit more difficult than FolderMount. Also, I am unsure how Link to SD plays into making a nandroid, if it's all copied and restored properly. I haven't really tried that yet.
Update: And again, FolderMount was not linking my pairs this morning. I haven't tried to ask for help on that issue since the Nabi's storage is all funked up by default. FolderMount had an update so I will see if that changes anything. Also of note, I haven't upgraded to the latest Nabi update either.
While I was in there, I checked that I used all 2 GB I alloted for Link to SD (I should have done at least 4 GB) on the external. FolderMount has about 7 GB on the external.
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Hi thanks again for the advice.
Am I right in thinking that most apps are composed of just two components, one component being the apk itself (which can be moved to external using link2sd), the other being the data (which can be moved to external using foldermount).
Is this right??
If-so, then IF I am using the disk-usage app correctly, then almost all of my sons apps are in the apk bracket with hardly any usage on the data aspect.
So if this is the case, then I wouldnt much need to use foldermount, and would simply need a huge partition on the external SD to have all the apps (apk's?) moved to. If that is the case, then I dont think I would bust the nabi2's internal memory with the data as theres hardly any of it.
Am I then right in thinking that after moving all the stuff via link2sd that my internal memory would be almost all empty, and all I need to do in future is 1: Buy new app and download, 2:Link2sd the new app, 3:Hand tablet back to son and all done.
Am I understanding it all correctly so-far please?
Thanks
Alex
PS: You mention nandriod.... whats nandroid?? Thanks.
Yes. apks are the apps. You've got the idea.
A nandroid is a term used for the backup image made while in custom recovery (TWRP on our Nabi 2s). It's like ghosting your PC. If you mess up after, you typically can restore that backup nandroid and make it like nothing ever happened.
I'm guessing the apps moved with Link to SD will not exist when the external SD is ejected. And, not backed up in the nandroid.
Ok thanks for that.
Well I have a spare 32gb sd card so my plan is:
1: Backup the nabi using twerp onto my existing sd card
2: format and prepare new sd card
3: remove ext2sd app in case it conflicts
4: put new sd card into nabi
5: Install link2sd
6: attempt to move apps over onto the external sd and see what happens
hopefully, the internal memory should get nice and empty, while the external memory slowly fills with the other stuff.
Then if it works, I can download all his missing apps and move each one to external sd
Fingers crossed.
Cheers
Alex
alexbobspoons said:
Ok thanks for that.
hopefully, the internal memory should get nice and empty, while the external memory slowly fills with the other stuff.
Then if it works, I can download all his missing apps and move each one to external sd
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Alex,
Were you met with success? I'd like to clear out my daughter's Nabi 2, but I'll go your route if it worked. Also, has anyone found a way to save pictures or videos to the CD card by default?
Hi I have a 16gb SD card in my Sony tablet that in the past I have moved a few apps over to, i have nearly filled up the tablets internal memory so decided to move a few more over after only moving one app I tried another which is 600mb but after a while I get a error saying their is not enough space left on the SD card when their is 10gb left anyone have any ideas why it would do this
Thanks in advance
I believe due to lollipop you're not able to move the whole app to the sd card. This ought to be changed in the marshmallows update. Unfortunately, without root, there is nothing you can do about it. Please correct me if I am wrong on this
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I believe due to lollipop you're not able to move the whole app to the sd card. This ought to be changed in the marshmallows update. Unfortunately, without root, there is nothing you can do about it. Please correct me if I am wrong on this
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That might be the case as the first app I tried was the Sonic CD game at 600mb but just tried my ebay app at 685mb and that moved straight over, only other difference between these apps is ebay is from the Google Play Store while Sonic was from the Amazon underground apps app do you know if you can't move the amazon underground apps ?
there are 2 programms which assist moving apps to sd. Link2SD is very good - you re-partition your sd card (e.g. if you have 64, you split it into 48gb fat and +16gb ext4 partition) and then you have extra 16gb for apps. It also can move obb files to sdcard, but wants you to upgrade to PRO version for this. Here, FolderMount app comes handy. It is made just to move obb files (this is what you usually get with big games). So, both apps, when used in parallel, allow you to move pretty much everything to sdcard. Both need root. That's what I use on other devices, and will try to replicate same setup on XZ3CT later today. But if it all sounds too complicated, maybe you need to wait for Android marshmallow couple of weeks, and it will allow you to fully use sdcard for apps.