I've been noticing lately that when I am connected to my university WiFi network, that my battery drains a lot faster than if I was just on the mobile network.
After about a week this is what i figured out:
1) its not any apps that are causing the drain(at least i don't think so)
2) every time WiFi is on, the download arrow on the WiFi icon is always!! on
3) the download arrow does not stay constantly on when i am on the mobile network
4) checked WiFi scan intervals and they are at 180 seconds in build.prop
5) this happens every access point on campus
Could it be the specific routers around campus? Their network infrastructure? Or apps constantly communicating to the network once WiFi is on?
Because when i was back at home, my home WiFi wasn't behaving this way with the downloading arrow always on and didn't drain battery as fast
I am on Shostock 4.1.4 but it was happening on an older Shostock rom as-well (although i don't think the rom is the issue)
Anything I could do? I would really like to get back to using WiFi all the time but the drain is upsetting.
My Koodo s2 does the same thing! But only on campus and not on other acces point.
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pistolberserk said:
I've been noticing lately that when I am connected to my university WiFi network, that my battery drains a lot faster than if I was just on the mobile network.
After about a week this is what i figured out:
1) its not any apps that are causing the drain(at least i don't think so)
2) every time WiFi is on, the download arrow on the WiFi icon is always!! on
3) the download arrow does not stay constantly on when i am on the mobile network
4) checked WiFi scan intervals and they are at 180 seconds in build.prop
5) this happens every access point on campus
Could it be the specific routers around campus? Their network infrastructure? Or apps constantly communicating to the network once WiFi is on?
Because when i was back at home, my home WiFi wasn't behaving this way with the downloading arrow always on and didn't drain battery as fast
I am on Shostock 4.1.4 but it was happening on an older Shostock rom as-well (although i don't think the rom is the issue)
Anything I could do? I would really like to get back to using WiFi all the time but the drain is upsetting.
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You probably have an app setup to use wifi to upload stuff. dropbox, g+, IDk how many others there are, hell google music......
Wipe your phone if you dont know what it is. then pay attention to what you install.
There is nothing on a wifi network that can make your phone do anything that you didnt give it permission to.
Tho a crappy signal will cause it to use more battery.
I just downloaded an app that monitors network usage.
Receive Data WiFi off: stays at 0 Kbps most of the time, will increase a few times to like 1-10 for a second and then go back to 0 for a while
Receive Data WiFi: never hits 0 its always from like 30-150 Kbps one time 250Kbps. WTF?
is there any kind of app that actually lets you see what app is pulling all this rogue data when WiFi is on?
As i said back in my college the same thing happens both to laptops and to other deviced, so i asked one of my networking teachers and he told me its because the way the acces point works (they are all open networks,you connect to those and then when connected you open your browser,enter your student id and pass and finally your free to roam the interwebs)
It might not be your case though but check with another device and another network to see if it behaves the same.
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As i said back in my college the same thing happens both to laptops and to other deviced, so i asked one of my networking teachers and he told me its because the way the acces point works (they are all open networks,you connect to those and then when connected you open your browser,enter your student id and pass and finally your free to roam the interwebs)
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The network here is a little different. It is actually a secured network, and you must sign in with student id and pass just to be able to connect to the network. Once connected, you are free to do as you please.
My s3 started doing this a couple of days ago. Can't figure out why either.
I installed an an app that let me look at the connections. There was several open to Google, one open to Samsung, and another to Facebook. I don't think any data was coming from any of those connections.
I know it's not an app. I force closed everything. I don't think it's the router. I've had the same router and this wasn't happening before last weekend.
Someone said to turn off wifi when the phone sleeps. Won't that drive mobile data up?
Something weird is going on.
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I just downloaded an app that monitors network usage.
Receive Data WiFi off: stays at 0 Kbps most of the time, will increase a few times to like 1-10 for a second and then go back to 0 for a while
Receive Data WiFi: never hits 0 its always from like 30-150 Kbps one time 250Kbps. WTF?
is there any kind of app that actually lets you see what app is pulling all this rogue data when WiFi is on?
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Sounds to me like its an app downloading something. Maybe better battery stats could give you some info.
It's not an app. I did a factory reset last night. As soon as I enabled wifi, it did it again. No apps downloaded.
I also changed my router from 2. 4 to 5ghz. Again no change.
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anicotra said:
It's not an app. I did a factory reset last night. As soon as I enabled wifi, it did it again. No apps downloaded.
I also changed my router from 2. 4 to 5ghz. Again no change.
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Try to disable ipv6 and see if that helps.
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On the router?
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On the router?
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anicotra said:
My s3 started doing this a couple of days ago. Can't figure out why either.
I installed an an app that let me look at the connections. There was several open to Google, one open to Samsung, and another to Facebook. I don't think any data was coming from any of those connections.
I know it's not an app. I force closed everything. I don't think it's the router. I've had the same router and this wasn't happening before last weekend.
Someone said to turn off wifi when the phone sleeps. Won't that drive mobile data up?
Something weird is going on.
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Don't know if this will help but, Avast mobile security has an network meter that shows all wifi data connections it might help you find what is using the wifi then it has a firewall (if you're rooted) to block any apps that you don't want using the wifi. If you turn off wifi when the phone sleeps just turn off mobile data as well... GL My data manager app will tell you whats using your wifi as well
Nop, ipv6 didn't do it. Still getting trickle of data coming in. It adds up to about 500kb per hour.
I've had this phone for about a month. This behavior just started a few days ago.
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anicotra said:
Nop, ipv6 didn't do it. Still getting trickle of data coming in. It adds up to about 500kb per hour.
I've had this phone for about a month. This behavior just started a few days ago.
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Do you have menu: /system/data usage? Where it shows how much data apps use?
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Do you have menu: /system/data usage? Where it shows how much data apps use?
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Yes, I also have a data usage app. The incoming trickle of data is going to OS SERVICES.
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Yes, I also have a data usage app. The incoming trickle of data is going to OS SERVICES.
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go-to /settings/back up and reset. Uncheck back up data etc....
I bet you that's it.
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go-to /settings/back up and reset. Uncheck back up data etc....
I bet you that's it.
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Nop, that's not it. Also, it's the wrong direction. I'm seeing a download trickle. No upload unless I do something.
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anicotra said:
Nop, that's not it. Also, it's the wrong direction. I'm seeing a download trickle. No upload unless I do something.
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Same here, Android OS in the data usage system app shows 50mb background data 6kb foreground for WiFi. On the mobile data section only 314 kb background and no foreground data.
I have just downloaded an app that monitors Wifi/mobile data, and it shows exactly what is using the data (specifics in Android OS as well)
It is here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.trafficstats&hl=en
Download that anicotra and keep WiFi on and lets try to figure this out.
Will post pictures when enough data is collected. :highfive: Hopefully shoman will be able to shed some knowledge :fingers-crossed:
EDIT: App is not displaying what is causing the main source of downloading data when Wifi is on( it is still something in Android OS). It is something else because the data listed does not make up for the total amount that was being used.
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Same here, Android OS in the data usage system app shows 50mb background data 6kb foreground for WiFi. On the mobile data section only 314 kb background and no foreground data.
I have just downloaded an app that monitors Wifi/mobile data, and it shows exactly what is using the data (specifics in Android OS as well)
It is here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.trafficstats&hl=en
Download that anicotra and keep WiFi on and lets try to figure this out.
Will post pictures when enough data is collected. :highfive: Hopefully shoman will be able to shed some knowledge :fingers-crossed:
EDIT: App is not displaying what is causing the main source of downloading data when Wifi is on( it is still something in Android OS). It is something else because the data listed does not make up for the total amount that was being used.
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So, I downloaded that program. Not sure it's going to help. As you see, there's 281kb on wifi, but only a few kbytes are being routed to processes.
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A friend of mine, who also has the 3d, noticed that there was a setting in the wifi settings that enables you to set your phone to connect to the strongest wifi signal. Just go to wireless and connections, go to wifi settings, press the menu button, go to advanced, and select best wifi performance. I never noticed this and thought it was awesome since we have a ton of wifi networks at work that are better in certain spots.
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lyon21 said:
A friend of mine, who also has the 3d, noticed that there was a setting in the wifi settings that enables you to set your phone to connect to the strongest wifi signal. Just go to wireless and connections, go to wifi settings, press the menu button, go to advanced, and select best wifi performance. I never noticed this and thought it was awesome since we have a ton of wifi networks at work that are better in certain spots.
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I had been wondering if there was a description somewhere that tells exactly what that setting does. I always thought it ran the WiFi radio at a higher current in order to keep a better signal. Are you sure it has anything to do with always picking the strongest signal?
Mike
lyon21 said:
A friend of mine, who also has the 3d, noticed that there was a setting in the wifi settings that enables you to set your phone to connect to the strongest wifi signal. Just go to wireless and connections, go to wifi settings, press the menu button, go to advanced, and select best wifi performance. I never noticed this and thought it was awesome since we have a ton of wifi networks at work that are better in certain spots.
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Interesting find, will need to watch this.
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ITT: OP hates good battery life
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ITT: OP hates good battery life
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I take my charger to work and underclock most of the time, so it's not a huge deal.
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also when my screen is off it disconnects it self from wifi!! has anyone notice that?? it's cool since it is saving battery
You can change wifi sleep settings in that same menu also. I run the performance mode and still get great battery life also
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Nice because I have two wireless routers one in the front house and one in the back. Sometimes it stays connected to the weaker one when I'm further away from it. Thanks for the tip.
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Wow never noticed that, thanks! Definitely gonna use this now.
EDIT: Guess its an Evo 3D thing only thought I might have it still...
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lyon21 said:
A friend of mine, who also has the 3d, noticed that there was a setting in the wifi settings that enables you to set your phone to connect to the strongest wifi signal. Just go to wireless and connections, go to wifi settings, press the menu button, go to advanced, and select best wifi performance. I never noticed this and thought it was awesome since we have a ton of wifi networks at work that are better in certain spots.
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nice find bro,gonna give it a try...
danaff37 said:
You can change wifi sleep settings in that same menu also. I run the performance mode and still get great battery life also
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i use an app called green power,its free,it turns off all radios(wi-fi,3g,4g in the paid app)when ur creen turns off and automatically turns them on instantly when u unlock ur screen,does wonders for my batt.life.
It's better to keep wifi connected when the screen is off as it uses less energy than the 3g radio
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It's better to keep wifi connected when the screen is off as it uses less energy than the 3g radio
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That's what I heard as well.
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I'd still like to know your source for the info saying that this setting evaluates the signal from all wifi sources and picks the one with the best signal. This setting is not outlined anywhere other than to mention that it uses more battery. Is it just something you turned on and you noticed it did that... or did you read it somewhere?
Mike
THEGAMEPLAY94 said:
It's better to keep wifi connected when the screen is off as it uses less energy than the 3g radio
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I do the same thing unless I'm somewhere that has no wifi. I also disable the always on mobile data which saves battery life without losing functions of your phone.
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housry23 said:
I do the same thing unless I'm somewhere that has no wifi. I also disable the always on mobile data which saves battery life without losing functions of your phone.
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Disabling "always on mobile data" will prevent you from getting push email from apps like K9 mail. Won't it? I mean, if I'm waiting for an email and I want to hear a chime when it comes in (I have K9 set up that way), it'll never come through if there's no wifi and I uncheck "always on mobile data". Correct?
Mike
Push email still works. Or At least gmail does..
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mikeyxda said:
I'd still like to know your source for the info saying that this setting evaluates the signal from all wifi sources and picks the one with the best signal. This setting is not outlined anywhere other than to mention that it uses more battery. Is it just something you turned on and you noticed it did that... or did you read it somewhere?
Mike
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If you have a spot where this would help, check it out. Mine does it at work. We have a customer wifi and a service wifi that get better strengths in certain spots and it will switch back and forth.
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Someone should do a couple runs of Speedtest with this on and off to see if there is a real difference in throughput.
Also, turning off "always on data" does not stop Gmail from syncing, and it does wonders for battery life in my experience.
mikeyxda said:
Disabling "always on mobile data" will prevent you from getting push email from apps like K9 mail. Won't it? I mean, if I'm waiting for an email and I want to hear a chime when it comes in (I have K9 set up that way), it'll never come through if there's no wifi and I uncheck "always on mobile data". Correct?
Mike
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Correct. Whenever you turn your phone screen on though, data will reconnect and stay connected for a couple of minutes, any e-mails that were waiting to be pushed to your device will then get sent. You won't get any notifications if you never check your phone all day, but I'm usually getting a text every once in a while which I turn the phone on to reply to.
You'll get immense battery savings with always on mobile data turned off as well.
Hello all,
As you can see, I'm new here (okay, I lurked for like a year lol.)
Basically, my stock 2.3.6, unrooted AT&T Note is not forcing mobile data to turn off when I switch to Wi-Fi. Both the W-Fi and "4G" icons appear, and the "4G" icon shows that it is transferring data all the time, even though I have full Wi-Fi bars. I did a factory reset and that did nothing. Do I just need to disable data every time?
Thanks!
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Kill the last apps that were using DATA and it will shut off.
claywd said:
Kill the last apps that were using DATA and it will shut off.
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The op said he did a master reset in the thread and it still has the same problem. How is killing the last app gonna stop that? Really now come on guy. That makes no sense. Think a little harder
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Justinfedor said:
The op said he did a master reset in the thread and it still has the same problem. How is killing the last app gonna stop that? Really now come on guy. That makes no sense. Think a little harder
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Hey, why not suggest an answer, not attack answers and other members give while trying to help.
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Basically, my stock 2.3.6, unrooted AT&T Note is not forcing mobile data to turn off when I switch to Wi-Fi. Both the W-Fi and "4G" icons appear, and the "4G" icon shows that it is transferring data all the time, even though I have full Wi-Fi bars. I did a factory reset and that did nothing.
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Switch to airplane mode then turn on wifi. Airplane mode will turn off all modems.
Im as stumped as the op. But giving an answer like that is just completly dumb. If he reset the device and still didnt fix the issue it would have to be software related or wifi related. Not a app. Duh
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Apps Using Data
I have noticed that the AT&T Messages App is always running (Settings>Apps>Running). It seems to me that this app must always be using data since that's the only way it can notify me that I have an SMS message - there may be other apps always running that keep data alive so that they can check for SMS, MMS or voicemail.
IDK but it makes sense to me that data must always be running on a phone since we can't get messages via WiFi.
Justinfedor said:
If he puts airplane mode on thats just postponing the issue plus then he cant gets calls or texts. Not a smart idea either.
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He wanted data off. He didn't mention anything about calls and SMS.
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He wanted data off. He didn't mention anything about calls and SMS.
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Actually he wants WiFi to "force data off" - that's different than turning it off via airplane mode. I do not think you can actually force data off with WiFi - it must be turned off either manually or via airplane mode.
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Switch to airplane mode then turn on wifi. Airplane mode will turn off all modems.
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I want to be able to receive calls. I just don't want to be eating my 2GB's away while I'm supposedly on Wi-Fi.
docfreed said:
I have noticed that the AT&T Messages App is always running (Settings>Apps>Running). It seems to me that this app must always be using data since that's the only way it can notify me that I have an SMS message - there may be other apps always running that keep data alive so that they can check for SMS, MMS or voicemail.
IDK but it makes sense to me that data must always be running on a phone since we can't get messages via WiFi.
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This makes sense. When I originally got my Note, I wasn't using the AT&T Messaging, I was using stock Android messaging. Then I updated the AT&T app because not having all the apps up-to-date in Play bothers me. All the sudden it became the default messaging app. I uninstalled the update before the factory reset, and it automatically updated post-reset. I tried uninstalling it but it still does it.
Also, I was using Data Watchdog, uninstalled that and it still does it.
So I guess the question remains, how do I disable AT&T Messaging without rooting?
The last app has secured it connection via data and will continue using that data and keeping the connection open until you shut it off.
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The last app has secured it connection via data and will continue using that data and keeping the connection open until you shut it off.
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Okay?
Hold home key swipe apps to close them then it should switch signal automatically
If it doesnr work wipe cache and dalvik cache and try again. If you don't know what this is private message me
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I'm on the 2 gig plan too. I didn't give it a thought until now.
Can you use the task manager to see what app is holding onto the data connection after you switch to wifi? Sorry I can't give any help.
Woot! I got it. There is an app in the market called APN-Switch. Its a widget that kills data but still lets you get calls and SMS. I tested it and it works great. I think it forces your phone into GSM mode.
http://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ch.blinkenlights.android.apnswitch
Problem was fixed with ICS. Thanks guys.
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Haha did you just WHOOT? lmao
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No, that was like three weeks ago.
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I'm lost..
so my internet is sooo bad.
like right now, I have full bars of H+, and yet xda takes 45 seconds to load. facebook takes a good minute to load each picture.. you can imagine. yet if i run a torrent or big download, it takes a minute to get started, then goes up to 600kbps-1mbps or higher.. so the actual speed isn't the issue, its how long it takes it. like the internet needs to spend a minute thinking before it decides to start..
I'm currently on Omega 8.1 on an AT&T network. my internet is extremely bad now, but even before on omega 2, and 7 I was facing these issues (just not as extreme)..
I feel like it's some sleep policy or my sgs3 trying to conserve battery, but I'd MUCH rather have good internet.. is there a way to crank up the internet settings?
any response will get a 'Thanks'
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Guess number 1 You may be suffering from DNS related issues.
Guess number 2 your peers may be close to your location and the other sites you are trying to connect are abroad. (This happens when your provider has low bandwidth to abroad -educated guess- )
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any other suggestions?
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Try rebooting your modem. I have the same problem as you from time to time so I just reboot my modem and everything is fine.
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Try rebooting your modem. I have the same problem as you from time to time so I just reboot my modem and everything is fine.
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What on earth are you on about? He's not talking about WiFi, he's talking about 3G / HSDPA mobile data. No router/modem to reboot.
To the OP: I'd recommend contacting your carrier personally. It's possible they're experiencing problems, and if they're not, they may be able to help out.
You might try swapping your SIM card at your local retail service store. You can also try clearing the app cache and or app data to see if if that helps...
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Omega 8-1 and LBF modem remove go to Omega 7 with a different modem .
Is the easy answer .
jje
Try disable "fast dormancy".(app by gorkhanmoral)
To do so, go to market and search the name.
Ps:u need root to disable
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Try disable "fast dormancy".(app by gorkhanmoral)
To do so, go to market and search the name.
Ps:u need root to disable
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But that is a network dependant application .
jje
Just wondering if anyone else is experiencing this and has a fix
When I connect to my router at home, the wifi is constantly disconnecting/reconnecting, so i'm cycling between wifi and my LTE radio.
I'm running a 100% stock DNA right now, fyi. Wifi is set to always on...
This happens occasionally on mine. It's the WiFi not the phone. Reboot your router. Sometimes I also have to reboot my modem as well.
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This happens occasionally on mine. It's the WiFi not the phone. Reboot your router. Sometimes I also have to reboot my modem as well.
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I'm having these issues too!
Definitely not my router, considering I'm running off a university secured wireless system. On my Inc 2, I never had problems with the connection dropping in and out! It keeps my phone awake and drains the battery.
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The huge chunk when wifi was off I am being told is from smartsync. I had one little disconnect and that was my router Im sure because it has been acting up.
I was having done Wi-Fi trouble yesterday. My phone kept dropping the Wi-Fi connection to my Verizon FiOS router. I was always within range and it hadn't acted up before. We also have an Apple Airport Extreme in the house so I connected to that one instead and I haven't had any problems.
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This happens occasionally on mine. It's the WiFi not the phone. Reboot your router. Sometimes I also have to reboot my modem as well.
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it'd definitely not the router or the cable modem. the other wifi stuff i have around connect without issues. i tried rebooting both anyway, and it didn't seem to help any. kind of annoying bug
I switched my wifi frequency from Auto to 2.4ghz only and that seemed to stop the issue. Only thing that sucks is I lose my wireless-n speeds. Our access point at work is only 2.4ghz tho so I would have to keep switching back and forth :/
Just had this start happening today. I'm wondering if it's something to do with a corruption in a Wi-Fi settings file.
Here's the thing...
Router is fine... I have 6 other devices that are seeing zero problems... DNA is only one with connection troubles.
DNA worked fine for about a week before this started happening. Started after I connected to work Wi-Fi but had to forget a connection... that is what makes me wonder about messed up file.
DNA is stock, no root, etc.
I guess the only way to check it out would be to compare files to try and find corruption... which would require root...
Any suggestions from others?
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chadster1976 said:
Just had this start happening today. I'm wondering if it's something to do with a corruption in a Wi-Fi settings file.
Here's the thing...
Router is fine... I have 6 other devices that are seeing zero problems... DNA is only one with connection troubles.
DNA worked fine for about a week before this started happening. Started after I connected to work Wi-Fi but had to forget a connection... that is what makes me wonder about messed up file.
DNA is stock, no root, etc.
I guess the only way to check it out would be to compare files to try and find corruption... which would require root...
Any suggestions from others?
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Some (maybe all) devices keep their current AP data under /data/wifi.
A wipe would cure corruption. It wouldn't have corrupted on read only /system.
adrynalyne said:
A wipe would cure corruption.
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Would this be cache/dalvik wipe or a full reset wipe?
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It wouldn't have corrupted on read only /system.
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Pardon the somewhat noob question, but the system still has permission to write and modify itself, does it not? How else does it save settings, make new AP's, save WAP, WEP, pass-phrases, etc.? Couldn't there be a possibly broken or slightly fouled way that the system modifies its settings files that causes a corruption or error in the file with some sort of a save? Maybe corruption is a bad choice of a word for what this is... just trying to think it through since there are others with similar problems. I may not be the best person to troubleshoot this since I'm no where near a developer level, but I do like solving problems.
chadster1976 said:
Would this be cache/dalvik wipe or a full reset wipe?
Pardon the somewhat noob question, but the system still has permission to write and modify itself, does it not? How else does it save settings, make new AP's, save WAP, WEP, pass-phrases, etc.? Couldn't there be a possibly broken or slightly fouled way that the system modifies its settings files that causes a corruption or error in the file with some sort of a save? Maybe corruption is a bad choice of a word for what this is... just trying to think it through since there are others with similar problems. I may not be the best person to troubleshoot this since I'm no where near a developer level, but I do like solving problems.
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Full reset, unless the poster is rooted, in which case the folder contents could be nuked. As for writing to system, no. It cannot write to system without s-off, even if you mount it as rw. The system isn't modified for settings, etc. anyway. Instead it is modified on the data partition. That way, when you do a factory reset, everything returns to default. A mobile OS that modifies things via it's core files would be a disaster.
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Full reset,
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Ugh - and I was just getting things like I wanted them...
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As for writing to system, no. It cannot write to system without s-off, even if you mount it as rw. The system isn't modified for settings, etc. anyway. Instead it is modified on the data partition. That way, when you do a factory reset, everything returns to default. A mobile OS that modifies things via it's core files would be a disaster.
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Sorry, the way I worded that could have been better... by system I meant the OS itself, not writing to the system partition. I understand that it is locked at this point until S-Off is achieved. But it does sound like the OS writes it's settings to the data partition - as you said under the /wifi folder. What I was curious about was if there was some sort of slight error in the way that the OS was writing that config file that caused itself problems. There were a bunch of wifi issues on the Touchpad (tenderloin) early on that this reminds me of. May no be related at all, though... just seems similar.
Unfortunately, my time is short right now with finals approaching on the horizon, but I'll keep lurking and looking into it as my time allows. I love learning anything I can about this sort of stuff.
Thanks for the help BTW. Much respect for your dev work!
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Ugh - and I was just getting things like I wanted them...
Sorry, the way I worded that could have been better... by system I meant the OS itself, not writing to the system partition. I understand that it is locked at this point until S-Off is achieved. But it does sound like the OS writes it's settings to the data partition - as you said under the /wifi folder. What I was curious about was if there was some sort of slight error in the way that the OS was writing that config file that caused itself problems. There were a bunch of wifi issues on the Touchpad (tenderloin) early on that this reminds me of. May no be related at all, though... just seems similar.
Unfortunately, my time is short right now with finals approaching on the horizon, but I'll keep lurking and looking into it as my time allows. I love learning anything I can about this sort of stuff.
Thanks for the help BTW. Much respect for your dev work!
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Well, it is possible, if the image flashed on the phone was bad to start with. Other than that though, it would take some sort of NAND failure to corrupt something. In which case, the OP has a strong case to get it replaced under warranty.
I never had any issues with this until last night.. I had switched the frequency from auto to 2.4ghz and when I got home or started acting weird so I just switched back to auto frequency and it connected like normal.. idk why that would cause issues but thought I would throw in my $.02..
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Mine was originally set to auto, so I switched it to 2.4Ghz and that seemed to only make it worse. The constant disconnecting is only a problem on one network, but unfortunately it's my campus-wide secured wireless network so it's not like I can just reset the router.
My battery life has been significantly worse when connected to this network through the day. It's so bad that I've gone 4G only.
I had this problem when I was custom Rom, after changing to stock Rom that problem solved
The Wi-Fi problems that I'm experiencing showed up after only switching networks, forgetting networks, changing security passkeys, NOT changing the auto or 2.4, 5g settings. I'm still wondering if it's some sort of a problem with the settings file. Does anyone know if the settings file can be deleted and replaced with a default file to try and start new without having to factory reset the entire phone?
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The Wi-Fi problems that I'm experiencing showed up after only switching networks, forgetting networks, changing security passkeys, NOT changing the auto or 2.4, 5g settings. I'm still wondering if it's some sort of a problem with the settings file. Does anyone know if the settings file can be deleted and replaced with a default file to try and start new without having to factory reset the entire phone?
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If you are rooted, you can just delete the conf file from /data/wifi.
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If you are rooted, you can just delete the conf file from /data/wifi.
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I figured it would take root. Was going to try it w/o root just to see if a fully stock system could be remedied since the problems are not necessarily on a rooted system and are showing up on stock systems too.
I may try this later this afternoon since I'm planning on rooting anyway for a ROM upgrade.
If I delete the config file, will the system simply generate a new one or do I need to overwrite with a stock or blank one?
Thanks again for the information ADR> wish you had stayed on DNA...
I noticed the WiFi issue as soon as I got home with my new DNA and connected to my home wireless router. It's happened numerous times while all other devices (my PC, laptop and iPad) are connected and working fine. I'm going to test out the moving setting to 2.4 or 5 only (will use 2.4 since that's all my home router has) and see what happens. But there is discussion of this issue on the VZW forums with mention of a similar/same issue with HTC X: https://community.verizonwireless.com/message/909569
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I want to clarify that my DNA connects to my home network without any issue and shows full signal. The problem is the underlying connectivity seems to drop (still shows connected to WiFi with full signal) and web page won't load. Once I switch off and back on it starts working again.\
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Just thinking out loud here - something else comes to mind: My home and work WiFi are backed up on my Google account and I setup my DNA with my Google account while at the Verizon store. So, of course, when I got home it connected automatically. I wonder...
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Where I was going with this is perhaps the Restore procedure from Google is somehow getting corrupted in some way when writing to the phone. As chadster1976 just mentioned, I was thinking about forgetting all the wireless networks backed up to Google and re-authenticating manually.
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If you are rooted, you can just delete the conf file from /data/wifi.
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I don't see a /data/wifi directory.
My Question is when I'm at work my reception is terrible So I use tasker to turn off wifi, data and location access but my battery still drains fast. Is it possible that apps are searching for away to find data access constantly and that's why I'm still experiencing power drain
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Could be download greenify and add all your data using apps and see if it helps
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If you normally have no bars in that area, your phone may be constantly searching for a signal. You might want to consider switching to airplane mode to stop that... Just be aware that you won't have call/text while in this mode. This will also keep mobile data off although WiFi can be turned on and used in airplane mode.
Another thing you can try is get the 'betterbatterystats' app from these forums and check for unwanted 'wakelocks' after it's been installed for a few hours or more.
Sidenote: Having location (gps) ticked on all the time shouldn't drain your battery, but turning off the internet (mobile data/Wifi) when not using it is a good idea as you've been doing.
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If you normally have no bars in that area, your phone may be constantly searching for a signal. You might want to consider switching to airplane mode to stop that... Just be aware that you won't have call/text while in this mode. This will also keep mobile data off although WiFi can be turned on and used in airplane mode.
Another thing you can try is get the 'betterbatterystats' app from these forums and check for unwanted 'wakelocks' after it's been installed for a few hours or more.
Sidenote: Having location (gps) ticked on all the time shouldn't drain your battery, but turning off the internet (mobile data/Wifi) when not using it is a good idea as you've been doing.
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thanks for the suggestions I will try