Battery still drains while plugged in and using navigation - Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have one of the $20 extended batteries from Amazon and used to think this was a from issue when I was on GB. Now that I'm using ICS I still have the issue that in my car while using Google navigation, and plugged in, the battery still drains and the phone will eventually shut off.... So... What gives? Is this a phone, battery, or other issue? I'm going to try my original battery to see if it makes a difference at all....
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I think it's more of an issue with your charger. While running google navigation it uses more power than the charger can supply. I would charge the battery then compare how fast it drains with it unplugged. I use this motorola car charger. I haven't used it with google navigation so I don't know if it's powerful enough, but it charges about 30% in about 40 minutes and is able to charge it while streaming pandora.

It's heat related. Take it from the sun, put it in front of the A/C vent, do whatever you can to keep it cool. In dire emergencies i have held it outside my window so the wind kept it cool.
It automatically stops charging when it gets too hot.

Domush said:
It's heat related. Take it from the sun, put it in front of the A/C vent, do whatever you can to keep it cool. In dire emergencies i have held it outside my window so the wind kept it cool.
It automatically stops charging when it gets too hot.
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Tossed in the stock battery and it didn't get too hot as quick as the large battery. Cooled it off with the AC and it worked for now.

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GPS & Battery Charging

I've noticed that when using TeleNav / ATT Navigator, my battery doesn't charge.
I do a soft reset and stop using GPS, the battery begins to charge.
This has happened with several Roms, so this leads me to believe that it's an equipment issue. I don't know if I'm alone with this issue.
Something like this is easy to overlook. The only reason I noticed is because I had to use GPS a lot more than usual and my battery went out while it was supposed to be charging.
If you're using any type of GPS, take a look. If you're good or not, just state what you use.
Thanks.
Mine will charge when I am using Garmin or GoogleMaps.... I have noticed that if the phone gets to warm it will still discharge even if it is plugged in. Keep an eye on the temperature of your phone!
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JFlitt
JFlitt said:
I have noticed that if the phone gets to warm it will still discharge even if it is plugged in.
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I've got my phone mounted on a spare belt clip i attached to my dashboard and ive noticed the same thing. there comes a time after it's been charging for a while when the light stops "breathing" but the battery is not fully charged. As far as GPS, i figured it wasted battery faster than it could charge, since i also have bt and the display stays on. I've been meaning to try it with an A/C charger in the car instead of the 12VDC. I'll let you know if theres any difference.
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*JFlitt*
I noticed the HEAT, my TILT did the same thing but it charged. The only issue I had with the TILT is when the battery is under 30%, I would have pull out the battery before it decided to charge.
*gmgonzal*
I'm using a mount also (15'' Gooseneck non-winshield). It starts out charging and then stops. I'll try with an AC adapter also just to see what happens.
There maybe something to this GPS & Charging......
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I have the Ac charger in my car and it works wonders. If I run more than three things at once then it will stop charging. All it take is a soft reset. Then all is well. As most said keep an eye on the temp. BTW I am using Energy's 2.0 040509 build with TomTom 7.915(9196)
Thanks Max, I figured the AC Charger would be better, it always charged very quickly at home.
Noticed the same thing on a six hour car trip. I use a gooseneck windshield mount and have Garmin XT and bluetooth to the stereo all the time. After a couple hundred miles it stopped charging and the backlight goes off, making it a pain in the ass for looking at the GPS screen, any suggestions? are u using a ac adapter and than plugging in your home charger? BTW am using an old Motorola car charger from the early RZR days.
gnice18 said:
Noticed the same thing on a six hour car trip. I use a gooseneck windshield mount and have Garmin XT and bluetooth to the stereo all the time. After a couple hundred miles it stopped charging and the backlight goes off, making it a pain in the ass for looking at the GPS screen, any suggestions? are u using a ac adapter and than plugging in your home charger? BTW am using an old Motorola car charger from the early RZR days.
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No difference if you use a 12v or a 110v charger.
The TP warms up and at a certain temperature shuts off the charging so it will not extra over heat.
I place my TP where the AC can cool it down and since then - it will charge for hours.
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epriel said:
No difference if you use a 12v or a 110v charger.
The TP warms up and at a certain temperature shuts off the charging so it will not extra over heat.
I place my TP where the AC can cool it down and since then - it will charge for hours.
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That's freaking hilarious. I do the same thing. I notices my Fuze would stop charging when plugged into my car charger if it got too hot, so I simply positioned it where my AC would hit it. Now I don't have that problem anymore.
I tried the AC charger in the car....same thing.
Tried Google Maps also. Basically when I use GPS, charging stops when the device got warm. My device didn't take long to get warm....about 2 minutes.
There's gotta be away around this other than placing it on the air vents. The TILT performed much better with GPS.
my results
finally got a good long run with gps on I-95 and this is what I found:
1. According to tBattery, the 110V charger and the 12VDC charger were the same as far as charge being + 100 with the gps on, so the battery would still be charged if gps is running with the screen almost full brightness, BT on and a data connection.
2. Also according to tBattery, the temperature got to above 46 degrees when I noticed the phone was no longer charging, whereas at home it rarely gets over 33 degrees. The current showed more than 300 negative under these conditions.
SO technically, once the phone stops charging due to temperature, the GPS with screen full on and all the rest tend to drain the battery. Even if the phone is plugged in to the charger. If only it would stop charging the battery but at least take power for the device from the charger, that would have been good.
So I'm going to reposition the device on my dash to where the AC vents can hit it as others have done!
I have two different chargers in my car. The one that will charge my touch pro while running GPS navigation is 5V/1A. The one, that will not charge while navigating has 5V/500mA (which is max. USB-power according to the specs).
Since TP's GPS consumes approximately 500mA (I've read that somewhere on the internet), there will not be enough power to charge. Keep an eye on this.
I went on a 1Hr trip....
AC Adapter-Got hot in about 8 minutes...stop charging, reset needed
Cig Adapter-Got hot in about 8 minutes also...stop charging, reset needed
Aimed the AC on the device...Device charged the whole trip.
Bottom line....Keep it cool!
Lithium Ion batteries in devices all do this as far as I know. I remember back when I used my Dell Axim x51v for navigation is when I found this out for the first time. It would sit in direct sunlight on my dash and quit charging within about 5 minutes of use. One time during the winter I noticed when I didn't turn my heater on that it charged for much longer. Then the light bulb went off in my brain.
Same thing went for my Q9H, Tilt, and now Fuze. A lil air from the vent helps a lot, and keeping it out of the sunlight is an even better option.

Car charger performance

Does anyone have any ideas on how to increase car charger performance?
When I am using Google Maps Navigation with the GPS running and full 3G signal, the phone barely charges at all. Depending on screen brightness it can actually drain the battery(slower than when not connected to a charger).
Can the charger be modified to increase its output?
You have to buy a charger, which has more than 1 ampere
I have the Brodit Active Holder w/ Cig charger, I'll have to check the specs on it later. Do you think it could be modified in some way?
I bought the SE car charger (http://bit.ly/k7udKw), the price was a bit steep (20 euros or so) but it works like a charm. I use Sygic Aura navigation and the battery meter still increases over time. Not fast, but it doesn't stay put or decrease either, so I'm all in all happy with it.
Check out this thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1005618
And make sure you set your phone dock near the air conditional if you open GPS map, it'll get hot and your battery won't last long while it gets hotter even you charge it.
I bought my charger on Internet auction for about 2 Euros (some crappy China stuff) It works like a charm. And yes, battery gets very hot when I use navigation so I mount my phone holder near AC vents.
There must be a reason for the severe heat in the x10.
even in ultra low temperatures it overheats a lot.
So i finally remembered to check my car charger and it is a 1amp charger. I've just upgraded my rom to the one listed in my sig and the phone is much better on battery, so hopefully it charges better in the car now.
Had my phone docked in the car for 20minutes and it charged from 82% to 95% with the GPS on and Google Maps following my route. Pretty happy with that sort of performance.
Mines charge normally i use orginal se charger because in my car i got an ac plug
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im using this one
http://www.amazon.com/AT-BlackBerry..._1_1?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1310226373&sr=1-1
it charge fast and it can charge another USB device like an iphone or my MW600 bluetooth... it can even charge my x10 to 100% while GPS navigation is on. my previous car charge doesnt do that, it can only hold my battery % without letting it drop if GPS navigation is on. so if my battery is 30% i'll get 30% after i disconnect and stop using the GPS navigation...
http://cgi.ebay.com/Holder-Mount-Ca...878745?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item4cf818a359
I've bought this one a while ago for 7 bucks (including shipping). Had just a few chances to use it, but all times it was really sunny and hot outside and the phone just stops charging because it becomes extremely hot. I would stick the mount somewhere near the gear stick, but it won't stay on any other surface than glass
It was a quite funny adventure when we were travelling to a big city with intense traffic and really complicated streets. So I am using the GPS to find the hotel we booked, it's really hot, I just keep going - didn't know that the phone stops charging when it's hot - so we finally arrive at our destination, I start to reach the phone with my hand and it just turns off, because the battery is dead. Was quite scary at the moment
Yeah, did some driving around this weekend using Google Maps Navigation. Had my X10 plugged into the charger that came with my Jabra Cruiser speakerphone. Despite the charging light being on the whole time, by the time I arrived at my destination my phone had >5% battery. I checked the charger, and it's only 500mA.
Ordered this charger from Monoprice.com (was ordering some cables anyway). The price was good, and specs say it outputs 1A. Will let you know how it works out when I get it.
Hi,
I'm having an annoying issue with my car charger. I'm actually using the SE car charger, the 1200mA one.
The problem is that sometime, the charger will charge very well, meaning I can listen to music, have the navigation active, and twitter, G+ updating as usual, the battery is charging around 1% per minute, but on other time, the battery will slowly drain, same setup.
I've noticed something yesterday btw, the phone was in a battery draining phase, then it appears that the phone lost his network connection, then it came back, and the phone started to charge well.
Is that an issue related to the car charger or could it be a "bug" in the phone software ?
wlx said:
Hi,
I'm having an annoying issue with my car charger. I'm actually using the SE car charger, the 1200mA one.
The problem is that sometime, the charger will charge very well, meaning I can listen to music, have the navigation active, and twitter, G+ updating as usual, the battery is charging around 1% per minute, but on other time, the battery will slowly drain, same setup.
I've noticed something yesterday btw, the phone was in a battery draining phase, then it appears that the phone lost his network connection, then it came back, and the phone started to charge well.
Is that an issue related to the car charger or could it be a "bug" in the phone software ?
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The phone limits the charging current at a max of about 700mA.
Sometimes the radio eats thru the battery quite heavily in low signal area's.
The charging current just plainly cannot keep up with the total usage.
OmegaRED^ said:
The phone limits the charging current at a max of about 700mA.
Sometimes the radio eats thru the battery quite heavily in low signal area's.
The charging current just plainly cannot keep up with the total usage.
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Thanks for your fast answer.
Maybe updating the baseband (actually i'm using the 2.0.46) could help ?
wlx said:
Thanks for your fast answer.
Maybe updating the baseband (actually i'm using the 2.0.46) could help ?
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You can try that.
In some cases it works in other cases it does not.
I have had my X10 for nearly 2 years now and i have tried about 5 different car chargers until finally settling on a SE original.
I use my x10 with google nav all day long as i am a service engineer and i have found the only way to get it to work for a full day is to mount it directly infront of one of the air vents blowing cold air over it while plugged in to the charger. Without this the phone will get too hot and start discharging especially on a warm day.
Using 2g and low brightness can help as well.
Mighty Reds said:
I have had my X10 for nearly 2 years now and i have tried about 5 different car chargers until finally settling on a SE original.
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LOL. The X10 was released in late March 2010. So unless you had an early development model, you've had your X10 for 16 months at most.
Mighty Reds said:
I use my x10 with google nav all day long as i am a service engineer and i have found the only way to get it to work for a full day is to mount it directly infront of one of the air vents blowing cold air over it while plugged in to the charger. Without this the phone will get too hot and start discharging especially on a warm day.
Using 2g and low brightness can help as well.
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Yeah, I learned how crazy heat will build up in this phone if using it for nav a few weeks back, when in about 75 minutes of driving I drained my battery fully and the phone was registering at 54°C from sitting on my sun-beaten dash while navigating.
I thinking I'm going to try to build some sort of shade over my car holder to keep the X10 out of the sun, and maybe help channel some of the AC more directly onto it.

How does this happen?

Notice the charging at the same time the battery is plummeting?
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I had this happen to me once. For me, I had been using the phone constantly for a while one day. I plugged the cord in to charge it and also kept working on it. I was using apps that pull the battery hard. I could feel the battery getting warm, and I noticed that even with it plugged in, the battery was still going down. I closed everything, unplugged it, let it cool down, then tried to charge it again and it was fine.
Not sure if this will help you; just what happened to me.
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I was using A LOT of resources when this happened. Havent had it happen in a long time.
I unplugged from charger, and plugged back in and now its charging like normal again. Weird. Now, if I could figure out how to get away from the Android OS battery drain...
Typical behavior while charging if being used. Depending on what you're doing, you can expect it to charge slower or actually discharge, as you witnessed.
A couple common issues from other electronic devices.
You are drawing more current then the charger is providing.
The cable is not fully seated so there is either resistance in the
connector, lint in the way, surface corrosion in the connector, etc.
I once plugged mine in, set it down and left it for a few minutes to find it really hot and battery draining while charging. I opened set CPU and it was stuck at 1200. Unplugging it didn't fix it. I had to reboot, but it was fine after that.
Other than that the only time I have seen the battery go down while charging was Netflix over 3G over MHL.
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Hot device when charging.

As the title would suggest, my poor GS2 gets VERY hot when charging. Not all the time, but often.
If I charge from my PC's USB, it doesn't, but when I use a mains charger, it overheats.
When I finish my night shifts, my battery could be down to 20%, so when I go to bed, I plug in the phone, set it's alarm and pop it under my pillow, like I have done with every phone I've ever owned without issue. I wake up during the night and pull out the phone to check the time and almost leap out of bed because of how hot the device has become.
To make matters worse, it's discharged in battery power. This morning was the final straw, as when I checked the phone and it was red hot, it was also dead. I held down the power button and booted up the phone. It showed 15% battery left. I know people say that when it's charged, remove it from the charger, but it isn't practical. Besides, I've never had to do this on any other phone I've owned. This is unacceptable for me to rely on any more. Is this a common issue?
Or my fault because I have rooted the phone the tried custom roms/kernels/modems on it before?
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As the title would suggest, my poor GS2 gets VERY hot when charging. Not all the time, but often.
If I charge from my PC's USB, it doesn't, but when I use a mains charger, it overheats.
When I finish my night shifts, my battery could be down to 20%, so when I go to bed, I plug in the phone, set it's alarm and pop it under my pillow, like I have done with every phone I've ever owned without issue. I wake up during the night and pull out the phone to check the time and almost leap out of bed because of how hot the device has become.
To make matters worse, it's discharged in battery power. This morning was the final straw, as when I checked the phone and it was red hot, it was also dead. I held down the power button and booted up the phone. It showed 15% battery left. I know people say that when it's charged, remove it from the charger, but it isn't practical. Besides, I've never had to do this on any other phone I've owned. This is unacceptable for me to rely on any more. Is this a common issue?
Or my fault because I have rooted the phone the tried custom roms/kernels/modems on it before?
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1) change to a diff kernel and see for the issue.
2) well charging from 10~20% to full 100% will lead to heat up the phone than charging from 50~60% to full 100% , hence also check for the same and see
Sun90 said:
1) change to a diff kernel and see for the issue.
2) well charging from 10~20% to full 10% will lead to heat up the phone than charging from 50~60% to full 100% , hence also check for the same and see
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I should have mentioned. This happens on any Rom and I've tried 4 kernels and still the same issue. Only thing I haven't tried, is going back to Samsung stock rom. Going to try that today, see if that solves it and report back.
Like Samsung told my wife "when it gets hot dial *#*#4636#*#* and note the battery temp".
Is it still under warranty
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Well the PC's USB output would be limited to .5 A whereas your wall charger could provide 2 A. This might just be normal IMO, although I can't say that my phone gets ridiculously hot during charging. As others mentioned, I would check the battery temp.
The issue is already in his post and the solution as well.
1) The S2 has the tendacy to get hot. Its all very compact and there are no internal ventilators so the S2 dissipates heat to the rest of its body.
2) There is a Power difference between the charger and a USB cable. The charger gets hotter since it delivers power directly of a higher voltage and slightly higher amps then a usb port.
Your issue comes from one sole thing. Your bed. beds have very poor heat dissipating abilities, in fact, it has none. Considering no fresh air is delivered to your device, because it is stored under your pillow. Not to mention your pillow, the rest of your bed stop heat from leaving and it builds up. Ontop of that your heavy head is resting on it, pressing the pillow tight around the device.
in short, it has no way to relieve the heat. There is a simple solution of a non technical matter. Don't put the darn device under your pillow.
(the same counts to people that use there laptops on there beds pillow or covers without a proper cooling matt, before wondering why the hell there device shut down all of a sudden.)
The problem is you put your phone under your pillow. I made this mistake a few weeks ago and the phone was too hot but no problem when i charge it somewhere not under the pillow
I agree, I should stop doign that. But one question, if that's the case and the getting hot is normal, then why did the battery drop from 100% to 8% while plugged in?
Your cooking the battery, thats why.
i'll admit i charge my phone and leave it ON the bed so air still circulates but it did used to get hot. Not sure if any changes i've made such to things kernel, ROM, modem or undervolting has caused my change in temps but my phone never feels warm anytime day or night weather its on charge or not where as my partners phone (stock sgs2) does get hot using the same charging habits as myself
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Another odd issue. If I mains charge my phone or connect it to my laptop(not PC the PC charging seems to not effect it) the phone lags. Menus take longer and it really struggles to register my touches on screen.
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X82X said:
Another odd issue. If I mains charge my phone or connect it to my laptop(not PC the PC charging seems to not effect it) the phone lags. Menus take longer and it really struggles to register my touches on screen.
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For the AC charger this problem is known: if the charger is of poor quality it will generate too much 'noise' (ripple) which disturbs the electric field used by the touchscreen. However the original Samsung charger is of good quality and does not have this problem.
Experiencing these kind of problems when charging by a laptop USB port however is abnormal.
Interesting.
I bought an official Samsung charger off ebay, and it produces the same results. Much to my frustration.
Leaving it plugged in all night however was fine, I placed it on a shelf and the phone was actually cold when I woke up. I'm just worried the battery is ruined. It seems to drain quite quick.
X82X said:
Interesting.
I bought an official Samsung charger off ebay, and it produces the same results. Much to my frustration.
Leaving it plugged in all night however was fine, I placed it on a shelf and the phone was actually cold when I woke up. I'm just worried the battery is ruined. It seems to drain quite quick.
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Another problem i faced recently was the battery draining to fast, i was told to pull the battery out for atleast 3 mins, this lets the CPU etc cool off, since then i've had no problems at all and getting a good 12 hrs atleast on battery use
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Using as DNA as GPS is a no go, Heat Issues, battery drain and not charging !

Today I took my DNA for a spin using google maps. And to power the beast I used a 2000mA momax charger. To my surprise halfway through the trip I noticed my battery level had halved. I remember seeing the charging icon on the battery so thought ok its charging it.
But when we arrived after a 45 mintue drive i lost over 50% battery It seemed it wasn't charging after all. The phone was extremely hot
Did it get too hot possibly while driving and stop the battery from charging as a thermal safe guard from overheating? I'm on the stock kernel. Anyone had this issues like this? And does anyone know the MA rating of the official DNA charger? I'm in New Zealand so i cant just pick up the official charger or anything like that.
If i cant use the GPS without the phone charging it will make it unuseable on long trips
Edit: Problem found, phones gets too hot on the dash and running GPS it will throttle and not allow the battery to charge. Thumbs down to HTC making a phone with GPS that can't be used for more than 20 minutes or your phone overheats.
Hendrickson said:
Today I took my DNA for a spin using google maps. And to power the beast I used a 2000mA momax charger. To my surprise halfway through the trip I noticed my battery level had halved. I remember seeing the charging icon on the battery so thought ok its charging it.
But when we arrived after a 45 mintue drive i lost over 50% battery It seemed it wasn't charging after all. The phone was extremely hot
Did it get too hot possibly while driving and stop the battery from charging as a thermal safe guard from overheating? I'm on the stock kernel. Anyone had this issues like this? And does anyone know the MA rating of the official DNA charger? I'm in New Zealand so i cant just pick up the official charger or anything like that.
If i cant use the GPS without the phone charging it will make it unuseable on long trips
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the rating on the HTC charger is 1000mah.. one thing i have noticed that some higher MAH chargers will actually cause the phone to charge in "USB" mode.. when you plug that charger in check the battery settings screen and at the top it should say charging AC or USB.. if it says USB then that is likely your problem since USB charging mode is much slower than AC charging mode.
Awesome tip. Never knew that, thanks!
Wow thanks very useful info indeed. I think i might be over doing it and making it overheat. I will try a 1000mAh charger in a few days and see if that solves the issues!
So the problem doesn't lie with the actual mA output of the charger, but with the way the charger is physically pinned out. On "fast" chargers, that is, chargers that can deliver more than 500mA of current, the center two data pins, D+ and D- are shorted. This short tells the phone that it's plugged into a dummy charger and allows it to draw more current (I believe the DNA can draw a max of 1 amp when in AC or fast charge mode). In a computer USB port, these two pins obviously aren't shorted as they are the data pins. Without the short being present, the phone assumes it is plugged into a computer where USB 2.0 specifications allow for a maximum of 500mA of current draw, so the phone software limits the charging rate to 500mA. The flaw in many aftermarket chargers, even the super high power ones, is they omit shorting the center two pins, resulting in the phone only allowing 500mA of current draw. This is a problem with both car chargers and some home chargers, especially the multi-port chargers designed for iPads and smartphones. Apple uses a different pinout for their high speed charging that isn't as simple as shorting the two data pins, so many Apple branded or "compatible" chargers don't put Android devices into fast charge mode.
For a car charger, my personal favorite is this Motorola one from Amazon. It provides up to 950mA of current, is genuine Motorola OEM so it's built well, and best of all is only $5 with free shipping if you have Amazon Prime. The only drawback is the LED is kinda bright and annoying, but I keep it in the outlet inside the center console so I never see it. http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Vehicle-Adapter-micro-USB-Charger/dp/B000S5Q9CA/ref=sr_1_1?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1356666975&sr=1-1&keywords=spn5400
Yeah I use that charger too. Works well. I recently bought a dual USB output one that claims it puts out 1amp..but my phone shows USB mode. Is it only putting out 500 then?
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Your phone is only drawing 500... I have a qmadix 2 amp micro usb with an extra usb port and it puts out plenty of power to charge 2 phones while using gps and listening to music.
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Thanks for the info, still not luck for me. I brought a brand name 1 amp charger and used it again. It charges well to begin with. But after about 10 minutes the notification LED in the phone will start to flash .... Then it seems my DNA is not charging at all. Status bar tells me in the beginning it was not on USB charge. After the 10 minutes no charging detected at all. Its as if the droid disables charging.
I will check the cable too again and see if that was the issue. It might be the charger and or cable. But the first charger charged my Note II without any issues and fast. It never lost battery %
And again my DNA was scorching hot. Which seems to me more of an a throttling thermal issue. Its reaches xx temp and charging is disabled. Does the flashing led mean something? It was a sunny day and its summer here in New Zealand so the droid just got too hot maybe? Being black on the car dash in the sun cant help it.
I love this phone, and have my note II up for sale but if i cant fix this issue it seems GPS and Nav is a no go for me. Which is not good. I travel a lot.
Update,
I did some further testing and the news is bad I used my standard HTC DNA charger, and tried to repeat the conditions. Got my phone hot and low and behold. On the charger it will stop charging once the phone gets too hot. It will flash a green light, then orange, and repeat.
in other words if you want to use this phone in summer on your dash as a GPS you might want to think about running the A/C on it at all times
Can other please test this? Maybe i just have a faulty CPU, but i think its a built in thermal safetly feature once the CPU gets too hot it will not allow you to charge it. So in other words if you want to use this phone in summer with sunlight on your dash as a Nav/GPS think again ;(
Hendrickson said:
Update,
I did some further testing and the news is bad I used my standard HTC DNA charger, and tried to repeat the conditions. Got my phone hot and low and behold. On the charger it will stop charging once the phone gets too hot. It will flash a green light, then orange, and repeat.
in other words if you want to use this phone in summer on your dash as a GPS you might want to think about running the A/C on it at all times
Can other please test this? Maybe i just have a faulty CPU, but i think its a built in thermal safetly feature once the CPU gets too hot it will not allow you to charge it. So in other words if you want to use this phone in summer with sunlight on your dash as a Nav/GPS think again ;(
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This sounds right to me. My last 2 devices had the exact same issue when heating up. I do believe that fast charging really heats up the battery, so once it hits a threshold, it stops drawing power in order to cool off. Don't want a battery exploding in your phone.
The GPS radio can sometimes draw a bit of power, though it is much less on newer phones.
I digress, I really do think that in most cases, heat is the issue.
Its a very sad state of affairs, I cant use this phone as satnav / GPS without loosing a lot of battery life. Seems its only good for winter GPS when used on the dash in the sun of summer it will just over heat and not charge. Very poor if you ask me.
Hendrickson said:
Its a very sad state of affairs, I cant use this phone as satnav / GPS without loosing a lot of battery life. Seems its only good for winter GPS when used on the dash in the sun of summer it will just over heat and not charge. Very poor if you ask me.
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Try testing your phone at 'room temperature' (75 F, 30C), if your phone overheats using the GPS in this case, then you should return the phone because it is not normal.
If it is overheating on a hot dash board, ALL of my phones have done that. You can try blasting the wind shield vents to counteract the heat.
The DNA is normally great, but either your expectations are a tad unrealistic or your phone needs to be swapped.
A solution would be to mount it in a way that isn't in direct sunlight, like using one of those vent-mounted adapters. Then if it got hot, you could put the air on and it would cool it down.
Another option would be to either turn the brightness down, or to completely turn off the display, unless of course you have no idea where you are, and need more than just the audible directions.
But really, it sounds to me like your specific phone is just prone to overheating, and needs to go back. I haven't had any temperature-related functional issues at all.
Sure, it's gotten warm. But it's never failed me as a result of being too hot.
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Well its summer here and its not taking the suns heat and being black doesn't help. I will see if I can move its position or place it over the A/c vent of the windscreen.
Wait till summer in the U.S and you will see more threads like these i think. I only comment its poor because no other phone of mine has done this in the past. Maybe mine is faulty.
Used mine for over three hours (one-way) using GPS/Maps full blown with no trouble or heat at all. I was also texting, surfing, playing games and talking on the phone at various times and had to plug in after awhile using the usual car charger. I don't like to get below 50% if I don't have to. Anyway, no trouble on the way there and no trouble on the way back.
HTC has always had the best gps radios I've ever used. My wife's GS3 still can't get as good, fast, and pinpoint lock as my DNA (or my Rezound for that matter).
As always, YMMV.
No offense man, but who the hell leaves their phone in the sun and expects it not to overheat? haven't you ever left your phone in the car in the summer and come back to a red triangle or a high temperature sign?
The key to keeping your electronics alive is to keep them cool. Your phone is just like your computer...you try to keep the temperatures as low as possible at all times.
I have a generic cigarette lighter adapter I got off ebay. I used my the google gps on my phone to a store in CT for the wife and then a trip to Boston, well over 3 hours worth of continued GPS use. When I unplugged the phone when we parked in the garage I had a full battery and the phone didn't appear to be any warmer than playing a regular game.
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Well its summer here and its not taking the suns heat and being black doesn't help. I will see if I can move its position or place it over the A/c vent of the windscreen.
Wait till summer in the U.S and you will see more threads like these i think. I only comment its poor because no other phone of mine has done this in the past. Maybe mine is faulty.
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That's how every phone works. If you are using it in a hot environment and in direct sunlight it will try to cool itself down by stopping charging.
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Hendrickson said:
Well its summer here and its not taking the suns heat and being black doesn't help. I will see if I can move its position or place it over the A/c vent of the windscreen.
Wait till summer in the U.S and you will see more threads like these i think. I only comment its poor because no other phone of mine has done this in the past. Maybe mine is faulty.
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Sorry bud, you cannot expect to leave your phone on the dash in direct sun, while using GPS AND charging and not have less than optimum results. You are KILLING the efficiency of your battery by allowing it to overheat continuously. Keep it cool man!
People will find anything to complain about...

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