Seeing how samsung stock is plummeting and the overall affect this could have on the android operating system, I feel this is relevant. Mods close if you disagree.
My issue is this. Most of the tech mags im reading are not covering the glaring mistakes made by the jury. There seems to be a finality to the court decision in the news. "See we knew all along apple was being copied and this is what it will mean in the future". Personally I feel this will be overturned. I'm going to site a source from Gizmodo which also sites the Verge as one of their sources.
This is a good read. Please weigh in. Please be mature. And anyone with legal experience please lay your expertise on us.
The mistakes made by the jury are down right embarressing. And their desire to talk to the media is just making it worse for them.
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Over turned as well here. If not then Moto will win their suit against Apple hands down. Personally, they should just end the madness
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Over turned as well here. If not then Moto will win their suit against Apple hands down. Personally, they should just end the madness
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I think it would need to go to the supreme court to really make a difference in the us
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Whatever the outcome, I hope this starts pushing manufacturers to just put AOSP ROMs on our phones--all Nexus, all the time.
Apple is only adding to its demise as a company and a staus symbol. Personally i feel that all this court time they're using is a waste of tax payers money and time. What happened to the law about monopolies in the US im pretty sure thats what apple is trying to become. Is there no such thing as being better because you are not because you own a patent. Imagine what it would be like if sports and car manufacturers were like this. What do we just turn our cheek since its an american company and they're going against foreigners. I say the legal system needs to say f u apple step up your game so u can compete instead of being a ***** and running to mommy because some asshole at school took your lunch money.
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Whatever the outcome, I hope this starts pushing manufacturers to just put AOSP ROMs on our phones--all Nexus, all the time.
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That's what I'm hoping for too. But Apple's vendetta is against android in general, so I'm sure they'll find something to sue over...and there's still the hardware to consider. If Apple truly owns "rectangles with rounded corners", it'll be interesting to see what kind of form factors we'll be looking at in the future.
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Software patent law in the U.S. is broken, and hurts the consumer - If you haven't already, consider signing the online petition for reform that's going around:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1853215
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Software patent law in the U.S. is broken, and hurts the consumer - If you haven't already, consider signing the online petition for reform that's going around:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1853215
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I hope that does some good. For the short term Samsung needs to appeal.
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I think android as a whole i.e. google, htc, sammy, moto, and the low low end companies need to unite and fight apple and there bs patents as a whole and not one by one because it will be ruled in favor of apple everytime because they got home turf advantage. No american is going to rule against an american owned american built american ran company in america. That would go against everything we as americans have been taught and what we believe in. And 90% of americans for whatever reason are blind to the fact that america dont produce a third of whats built and made in america. Hell my ford was assembled and built in canada my chevy was in mexico oh and the kicker is my stryker (the 8 wheeled armor vehicle the army uses) was manufactured built and thought up in canada the company is just based in america. So if our military is going to go outside the US for weapons and vehicles then we should be happy and willing to do the same for our cell phones and other electronics and at least not be biased when it comes down to it in a courtroom setting.
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All this is very upsetting to me .I don't like where this is going..and if something doesn't change the cell phone world may be in for some drastic changes... and I want my HTC s4 pro adreno 320 2gb DDR 3 ram and 4.7 HD display aosp phone... and i don't want apple ruining it
Despite being a dot net developer I've stuck with android because it can do more. If Google somehow loses ill go windows phone for sure cause I already know how to make apps for it.
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Despite being a dot net developer I've stuck with android because it can do more. If Google somehow loses ill go windows phone for sure cause I already know how to make apps for it.
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Android is the clear leader now. I wouldn't worry
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Android is the clear leader now. I wouldn't worry
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+1 its so obvious from apples actions that android is top dog and apples trying everything it can to level the playing field. They can feel the walls slowly closing in and the lights getting dimmer for their reign as a technological giant and all they can do is claw and scratch at the dirt walls of the hole they dug themselves into. I for one find it amusing that they have to resort to this level of pediness (sp?) And just all together humiliating tactics that theyre trying to use.
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must be overturned but we have seen stranger things.
From reading the article it seems the jurors didn't have the knowledge or maybe the willingness to preside over this case. I'm going out on a limb here but wasn't Samsung supposed to be judged by a jury of it's peers. Obviously the jury couldn't consist of electronic companies but it should have been made of people that work in that field or people with specific educations. Juries in trials like this shouldn't be picked from the general masses.
Also is it possible for Samsung to get a fair trial in the U.S
Its not possible for any foreign company to get a fair trial in the US were way to biased for that. Plus were in a recession so we need american jobs to stay in america and go to americans. Honestly its all politics and whoever has the bigger wallet wins the case or at least can get a decision of what they want. The legal system in this country is so far in the ****ter that it would take a total revamp of it to get it to be 5% better than it is now. 2 cases i can think of off top of head that prove this: the oj trial (what a joke) and the jon bennet incident granted these cases are old as hell and some people reading are say wtf are you talking about it still proves my point. **** even if you take a look at big business cases martha stewart goes to jail for alleged insider trading where as the top people in charge of enron walk freely with their pockets stuffed to the max. And citizens wander whats wrong with the country and how did we end up in the economic state were in now. End rant.
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That would just make android more like apple. The point of android is choice, if all of our phones ran the exact same software and ui where's the choice? You would have to root your phone just to get something different. Which isn't a big deal to me because all of my phones have been rooted, but others like to be able to choose a different ui just by picking different phones by different manufacturers.
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+1 its so obvious from apples actions that android is top dog and apples trying everything it can to level the playing field. They can feel the walls slowly closing in and the lights getting dimmer for their reign as a technological giant and all they can do is claw and scratch at the dirt walls of the hole they dug themselves into. I for one find it amusing that they have to resort to this level of pediness (sp?) And just all together humiliating tactics that theyre trying to use.
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Pettiness.
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Pettiness.
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Thanks man i knew someone would fix lol
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No problem, I'm anal about that stuff, haha. It's my inner-teacher.
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700 question complaint and they take all of 22 hours to reach a verdict. Even patent experts would need more time to review. Apple's own lawyers weren't prepared for such a quick verdict
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http://m.engadget.com/default/class...c-with-third-itc-dispute/&icid=eng_latest_art
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I'm amaze the haven't say anything about s voice on the galaxy 3 devices
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Apple and samsung are in bed together. If it weren't for samsung, crapple wouldn't be where it is today
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Tim Cook... first he murders Steve Jobs and now he's going after HTC!!
I got my EVO 4G LTE yesterday and I can see why Apple is worried.
Most apple fans I talk to say that Iphones feel more responsive and have better battery life. This phone feels very responsive and I've only charged my phone one time in the past 22 hours. If Apple doesn't step up and actually improve their product they will suffer the same fate as RIM.
Has it been announced what this third lawsuit is claiming?
What they are claiming is listed in the link below.
I also actually listed the 27 HTC devices in the complaint here.
http://www.androrev.com/2012/06/06/...dditional-complaint-against-htc-with-the-fcc/
It appears HTC has countered with a complaint of their own and we are back in the ring for another 12 rounds. This is insanity looks like the ATT One X date might be in Jeopardy.
I wish HP had kept Palm, long enough to troll Apple to its knees.
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Tim Cook... first he murders Steve Jobs and now he's going after HTC!!
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LOL!
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I got my EVO 4G LTE yesterday and I can see why Apple is worried.
Most apple fans I talk to say that Iphones feel more responsive and have better battery life. This phone feels very responsive and I've only charged my phone one time in the past 22 hours. If Apple doesn't step up and actually improve their product they will suffer the same fate as RIM.
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That's a pretty ridiculous statement. Ever hear of people queuing up to buy the latest Blackberry? nope, didn't think so. Apple isn't going anywhere regardless. They could release the iPhone 5 with just an LTE radio added and people will mindlessly line up to get it along with all their friends.
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I got my EVO 4G LTE yesterday and I can see why Apple is worried.
Most apple fans I talk to say that Iphones feel more responsive and have better battery life. This phone feels very responsive and I've only charged my phone one time in the past 22 hours. If Apple doesn't step up and actually improve their product they will suffer the same fate as RIM.
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I agree. They only reason why this has gotten out of hand is because Android has began to take the market over Apple. And the only way Apple knows how to fight back is to take out the competition, starting with the biggest fish first (HTC). Instead of innovating (which they're oh-so-good at), they'd rather keep making what they have and take out competition.
My girl friend saw my new phone and instantly fell in love with it, I told her she should replace her iPhone with an EVO or One X (she is on ATT). She is thinking about it
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My girl friend saw my new phone and instantly fell in love with it, I told her she should replace her iPhone with an EVO or One X (she is on ATT). She is thinking about it
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She would be wise to do so.
The One X and EVO LTE are, IMO, the first phones to surpass the iPhone in EVERY aspect. Every aspect. I can see why they're worried.
Can we tap apple out of [email protected]#
Sounds like they're trying to fight the same fight from a different angle this time.
What I think of apple...
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gpz1100 said:
Can we tap apple out of [email protected]#
Sounds like they're trying to fight the same fight from a different angle this time.
What I think of apple...
<<<--- is appropriate
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I've always predicted, even when the first iPhone came out, that at some point it'll fall. They have no strategy. All they do is patent ideas that were made by other companies that are used in mainstream phones. I've said it before, Apple is to the ITC as LeBron James is to the officials in the NBA.
Sadly, Apple has the money to keep throwing bogus lawsuits out......and see which ones will stick. All the patents claims are going to hit many device manufacturers this year, will waste a lot of money, and slow down some really great devices.
Apple doesn't want the competition.....
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That's a pretty ridiculous statement. Ever hear of people queuing up to buy the latest Blackberry? nope, didn't think so. Apple isn't going anywhere regardless. They could release the iPhone 5 with just an LTE radio added and people will mindlessly line up to get it along with all their friends.
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Oh how I wish they would go somewhere!! iSuck, but I pretend like I'm better than everyone else!
Apple has been lagging behind in the phone development for quite some time. Even when the 4 was released, there were Android phones with features way ahead of it. The fact of the matter is Apple is now the one playing catch-up and lots of their customers are looking for a new, more customizable experience. So if you can't beat em, sue the pants off of them.. and that's what Apple's tactic is currently.
As of right now, Android has, and will be top dog. And I have a big suspicion that the iPhone 5 will be dead in the water unless Apple has a couple tricks up their sleeve. One mainly being iOS itself. It NEEDS to evolve in order to stay competitive. With more and more of the current generation becoming increasingly tech savvy, Apple's reliance on "it just works" will become far less effective.
None the less, in the end, it hurts consumers and makes Apple look like a huge douche canoe. And I'm all for letting that huge douche canoe drop right off a huge waterfall.
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That's a pretty ridiculous statement. Ever hear of people queuing up to buy the latest Blackberry? nope, didn't think so. Apple isn't going anywhere regardless. They could release the iPhone 5 with just an LTE radio added and people will mindlessly line up to get it along with all their friends.
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Or they could simply add almost nothing but 2 year old technology to it and people would come out in droves... oh wait... they already did that with the 4S.
Anyone else notice that some of the phones in the claim are pretty old? If they were going to have this lawsuit they should have done it long ago... It seems mighty suspicious of Apple.
It appears Apple has won the case. The jury has said Samsung has infringed on the patents.
I put this here because I believe that it does relate to us as a community and the galaxy s2 but mods if you feel it isn't related to then close it.
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Yeah Sammy just got raped. There's a long appeal process ahead. But those fruit people potentially killed twiz
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Yeah Sammy just got raped. There's a long appeal process ahead. But those fruit people potentially killed twiz
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And hopefully brought a pure Android to Samsung future phones
If any of you guys follow Robert Scoble on G+, he just posted an interesting take on the outcome...
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If any of you guys follow Robert Scoble on G+, he just posted an interesting take on the outcome...
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And hopefully brought a pure Android to Samsung future phones
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Yeah We on XDA love that, but in reality it hurts Android in the long run with the "main stream" customer. I know like 6 girls who fit the apple mold and were iphone users, that switched to SGS3 recently because of it's features it offered over apple. Let's face it ASOP is for hardcore android people. Stock android isnt pretty enough and offer enoigh features for the average person. Look at what a lot of people on here complain about, wishing they could bring twiz camera to cm10 etc, in reality Android has a few more steps to go to get where it needs to be to compete in the general consumer arena, it needs skins, imo.
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Nexus S got dinged for 2 million. So they won't go pure android. Windows phone 8 maybe if MS stop being dicks to one of their best OEMs.
Meh, Samsung deserved it. Pretty damning internal memos basically saying "copy Apple".
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Meh, Samsung deserved it. Pretty damning internal memos basically saying "copy Apple".
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I get that but I mean what else can they do?
So don't the new I phones have a pull down status bar like android? Am I wrong or is that a rip off of Googles work? I dunno. Whatever. Fricking Apple kills me.
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Color a dodge challenger or a mustang yellow with black stripes. Most of the tools in the world will think its bumblebee.
People are stupid and our patent system is ****ed.
Yes Sammy did "copy" apple, but thats what must be done to be in the mainstream. and has ALWAYS been done.
Our patent system caused this, samsung didnt do anything wrong. IMO
Also, other than the square icons, and the chrome bezel, I see nothing that resembles an iphone. If it was a blatant copy, people would have a hard time identifying it.
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So don't the new I phones have a pull down status bar like android? Am I wrong or is that a rip off of Googles work? I dunno. Whatever. Fricking Apple kills me.
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It is different because of the way it works. It is just that small section of screen not the whole screen like android which makes it different enough.
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Color a dodge challenger or a mustang yellow with black stripes. Most of the tools in the world will think its bumblebee.
People are stupid and our patent system is ****ed.
Yes Sammy did "copy" apple, but thats what must be done to be in the mainstream. and has ALWAYS been done.
Our patent system caused this, samsung didnt do anything wrong. IMO
Also, other than the square icons, and the chrome bezel, I see nothing that resembles an iphone. If it was a blatant copy, people would have a hard time identifying it.
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+1 to this. If the idiot judge hadn't granted Apple those patent rights (on stuff they didn't develop, and which should have never been patentable in the first place) this case would have never happened to begin with.
Thinking about this, maybe I could file for patent on any display device that is rectangle and has a bezel with square corners and sue all monitor/televison manufacturers? hmmm
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So don't the new I phones have a pull down status bar like android? Am I wrong or is that a rip off of Googles work? I dunno. Whatever. Fricking Apple kills me.
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Yes. But that's an issue that Android has to deal with, not Samsung (which they are) The OS infringing done by Samsung had to do with Touchwiz, not Android directly (even though the features are found in stock android). And then there's the 'edge to edge glass with a button' and 'rectangle with rounded corners' patents. Yes, Apple was actually allowed to patent a form factor and a shape..
Regardless, every single Apple patent that the jury claimed was valid was ridiculous.
Motorola (Google) has already started filing suit against Apple not too long before this decision.
just wait till Apple patents the circle, triangle and trapezoid, then we're really screwed.
anyways, doesn't every friggin phone out have a large touch screen , edge to edge glass blah blah.
perhaps when the iphone5 comes out with a 4" screen, samsung can sue back since the galaxy has had a 4" screen for years.
funny if this all works out (apple banning samsung phones, while google banning apple phones), we'll only have LG and HTC left LOL
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just wait till Apple patents the circle, triangle and trapezoid, then we're really screwed.
anyways, doesn't every friggin phone out have a large touch screen , edge to edge glass blah blah.
perhaps when the iphone5 comes out with a 4" screen, samsung can sue back since the galaxy has had a 4" screen for years.
funny if this all works out (apple banning samsung phones, while google banning apple phones), we'll only have LG and HTC left LOL
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Theres gonna be a huge market for banned black market devices. I can see the ebayers wheels turning already
In the case of other manufacturers infringing, Apple only needs to win one case like this for other manufacturers to line up to pay for Apples bogus IP and all the rest will just be short court battles that Apple can win just by referencing this case. I do however definitely seeing this as being appealed and Samsung will most likely not end up with this bad of a final verdict. Its just too ridiculous to stand. I mean, SKorea and UK threw the Apple patents out, deemed them invalid! Only here in the US could Apple pull this off..
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just wait till Apple patents the circle, triangle and trapezoid, then we're really screwed.
anyways, doesn't every friggin phone out have a large touch screen , edge to edge glass blah blah.
perhaps when the iphone5 comes out with a 4" screen, samsung can sue back since the galaxy has had a 4" screen for years.
funny if this all works out (apple banning samsung phones, while google banning apple phones), we'll only have LG and HTC left LOL
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Precisely. There isn't much wiggle room with which an all touch device can be designed lol.
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SKorea and UK threw the Apple patents out, deemed them invalid! Only here in the US could Apple pull this off..
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The us had been behind in mobile technology for a long time. Now, if this verdict holds, the rest of the world will get the latest devices while we will all be stuck with either iPhones, phones that to avoid Apple's lawyers have to use technology that is five years old, or phones that cost much more than they do elsewhere because companies are paying to use Apple's "innovations".
The only thing this lawsuit does is to either take away excellent products away from US consumers or make them more expensive for us, while the rest of the world continues to enjoy superior product choices with better technology. The judge that granted these patents to Apple was incompetent.
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The us had been behind in mobile technology for a long time. Now, if this verdict holds, the rest of the world will get the latest devices while we will all be stuck with either iPhones, phones that to avoid Apple's lawyers have to use technology that is five years old, or phones that cost much more than they do elsewhere because companies are paying to use Apple's "innovations".
The only thing this lawsuit does is to either take away excellent products away from US consumers or make them more expensive for us, while the rest of the world continues to enjoy superior product choices with better technology. The judge that granted these patents to Apple was incompetent.
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Agreed but Apple just has to have their way. Reminds me of a spoiled brat tbh although I am not that educated on the issue
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I get that but I mean what else can they do?
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Develop an entirely new UI for their products, like HTC did with Sense even though I know that some or even many people dislike it for various reasons. But hey, let's face it: those Taiwainian guys brought something really new and pretty for Android users, even with all its minuses.
http://m.engadget.com/2012/08/24/apple-samsung-respond-september-20th-injunction-hearing/
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These threads should be banned, as they generate little to no actual discussion.
Sure, it sucks for Samsung. But a lot of what Apple went after them for at least made a little sense. Samsung blatantly copied Apple in many situations. And even if there were examples of prior technology that fit the case, Apple was able to show that Samsung intentionally copied Apple's work instead of basing work off of said prior technology.
Before we start a circlejerk of people condemning Apple and all of its employees to hell, please realize that this was a legitimate legal decision and the people who made this decision put a lot of thought into it. I'm not happy that Samsung lost either, but I also believe that they lost for a reason.
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These threads should be banned, as they generate little to no actual discussion.
Sure, it sucks for Samsung. But a lot of what Apple went after them for at least made a little sense. Samsung blatantly copied Apple in many situations. And even if there were examples of prior technology that fit the case, Apple was able to show that Samsung intentionally copied Apple's work instead of basing work off of said prior technology.
Before we start a circlejerk of people condemning Apple and all of its employees to hell, please realize that this was a legitimate legal decision and the people who made this decision put a lot of thought into it. I'm not happy that Samsung lost either, but I also believe that they lost for a reason.
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i agree with sorax64....part of Samsung success with galaxy s versions is that Samsung copied Apple's work...
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This is why i only buy HTC. If i wanted an iphone clone i would buy Samsung.
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This is why i only buy HTC. If i wanted an iphone clone i would buy Samsung.
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eric00716!!!! i agree with you bro
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This major win with a major competitor will only give birth to a whole new round of suits and new strategy that will probably lead to us being phucked over. The realization of apple being a monopoly is becoming ever more true. You think the bs we had to put up with when our EVOs were held in customs was crap, just wait. I see bad things heading our way. I know Samsung copied apple. We all said that awhile ago. But jeez, if the courts will agree with apple that a rectangle with rounded corners is copying, then what does that say for us?
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If I was running apples legal department I would Sue Samsung also they are tearing there sales apart all apple needs to do to dominate the market again is make more choices for there phone bigger screens easy hacking and better ui improvements come on apple dust off those thinking caps and make a new product instead of pumping out the same phone every year.
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Maybe apple deserved this one...but This sets precedent.for apple to go ape**** on everyone ..and they will...they just acquired another billion dollars ..enough to have a full time kill android legal team for 200 years
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Maybe apple deserved this one...but This sets precedent.for apple to go ape**** on everyone ..and they will...they just acquired another billion dollars ..enough to have a full time kill android legal team for 200 years
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Ha.. A billion dollars. Should be able to pay their lawyers with that.
It's not like Apple is going to be able to go willy nilly on other OEMs now. They don't have the resources for that, and if they keep it up, Google will eventually step in.
Exactly that's what I'm saying...apple isnt gonna stop at this..google is gonna need to get involved..which it looks like they did with the Motorola suit..everyone knows moto is an ip bank..
I wonder what type of phones the judge and members of the jury use?
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As much as I love Android, I kind of have to agree that some of the devices that Samsung were making did look like iFails. Hell, I think Touchwiz does. I will say though, that Apple suing anyone for stealing ideas when they themselves have done so repeatedly in the past is just bs.
Here's the break down of what was infringed. Placement of home button? Thin frame with rounded corners? Serious!? I'm no Samsung fan, but for the sake of our future of android devices I was rooting for Sammy.
http://m.engadget.com/2012/08/25/br...oom-victory-over-samsung/?icid=eng_latest_art
Hahaha its already begun:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30692579
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Like I.said..that's the scary part..they went to court with these bs patents and they won..now every phone that has those traits can be targeted..this is just the beggning im afraid..esp when its prob difficult to find a jury that isn't a iPhone or android user ..and its the patent that's the issue..once granted the court will uphold their decision..that's where reform needs to begin
I wouldn't worry. This will probably be overturned. A lot of mistakes by the jury.
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I can see it now. 10 minutes after the court case is over. The judge and jury walk back to their cars talking on their IPhones... Lol
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This thread has turned out better than one from yesterday started by the "law school" guy
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This thread has turned out better than one from yesterday started by the "law school" guy
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That's like saying the dump you took today didn't smell as bad as the one you took yesterday.
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That's like saying the dump you took today didn't smell as bad as the one you took yesterday.
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Funny since a lot of people around here do believe that their chit don't stink.... :beer:
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Perfect example of why many of these people are sheep....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdIWKytq_q4&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Hahahahahaha they're just cash cows for apple...
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That's one of the funniest things I've watched in awhile. Morons.
"We're coming from a pure power source"
OMG that's awesome
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Baaaahhhhhh..... Unbelievable, some of those fools had the same phone in their hands and couldn't tell the difference... It's irrelevant anyhow, as the new iPhone is really just getting caught up to the evo LTE, sg3, oneX, etc...
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Lmfao!
Just goes to show how smart iPhone people actually are.
They just buy it because their next door neighbor has one and they wanna compare to them or feel better.
Fkn idiots.
I'm sure they took out the people who were smart enough to notice and not just blindly assume its a new superior phone. Most of those people look confused and I'm sure they just didn't want to look like they're out of the loop
This was an article I just saw . Total fluff piece saying how great the new iPhone is, when really it's playing catch up. They brag that iPhone users can now take panoramic photos lol. And apple says Samsung copies. SMH
http://mobile.businessweek.com/arti...phone-5-apple-again-raises-the-smartphone-bar
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That video is awesome lol
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om4 said:
I'm sure they took out the people who were smart enough to notice and not just blindly assume its a new superior phone. Most of those people look confused and I'm sure they just didn't want to look like they're out of the loop
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This. Using the magic of video editing to prove a point is great, isn't it?
All in all, I gotta say it's a beautiful phone. One aspect of Apple has always been great design. Two pieces of glass has in fact proven to be an ignorant decision, but damn if it doesn't look good. Still it does bother me to see so many people happy to see outdated features. I had canned sms and sms reply (call rejection) well before I ever owned a smartphone. The panorama? I have quite a few nokias lying around that have more then a reasonable amount of vacation panoramas. LTE? Poor Steve, he really believed it was too early and I'm easily swayed by his argument considering that all major providers are still in the middle of expanding lte coverage. So what if android got it first? How many of you can actually use it reliably and not as a "look what I can do" moment. NFC? Again, Steve Jobs believed it was too young of a technology and thus an unnecessary impact on performance (however small). Look around, how many reliably working nfc terminals are in retail? I have two gas stations that support nfc, but only one will accept my evo. The phone is nice, the quality definitely appears to be a step up from the previous, it finally has features that bring it up to par with the cellphones I had in the 90's. I still don't like Apple products, I don't think a certain incomplete (yes, even Andy Rubin has admitted it's far from what he considers finished) linux based operating system is any superior. I like my particular phone and it suits me for the time being. I will never understand why so many people take such pleasure in seeing ill-informed people who's more rational sense of being is being obscured by vanity.
bsims85 said:
Perfect example of why many of these people are sheep....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdIWKytq_q4&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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F**kin idiots
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*sigh* You do realize, people who instantly buy into what is clearly biased video editing can be described by that same insult
I refer to the iphone nutswingers as sheople :laugh:
It's still funny, even if it is edited. Especially the ones holding the same phone in their other hand.
"We're coming from a pure power source"
Yea but as I said before, a few of them seemed to be confused initially. With a camera documenting your reaction to the phone, and quite possibly being a publicity stunt for the latest product. Would you want to appear a foolish rube out of touch with technology? It appears to be vanity more then ignorance or stupidity.
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Yea but as I said before, a few of them seemed to be confused initially. With a camera documenting your reaction to the phone, and quite possibly being a publicity stunt for the latest product. Would you want to appear a foolish rube out of touch with technology? It appears to be vanity more then ignorance or stupidity.
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I totally agree.
You may be right, they could be vane. They could just be techno-stupid. I would have to attribute it to Apple's superb marketing.
"We're coming from a pure power source"
They do have a reasonably aggressive marketing strategy. The beauty of it, is that it does not appear aggressive at all (lawsuits are not marketing, although in Samsung's case it could be)
OMFG. I saw this and it just clearly shows how ignorant and stupid a person has to be in order to operate such a silly device.
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om4 said:
Yea but as I said before, a few of them seemed to be confused initially. With a camera documenting your reaction to the phone, and quite possibly being a publicity stunt for the latest product. Would you want to appear a foolish rube out of touch with technology? It appears to be vanity more then ignorance or stupidity.
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I agree but acting like you "know" when in fact you don't, makes you come off as more of a jacka$$...
All in all, the iPhone is a nice device, as to simply put it, "it just works". I recommend them to my non tech savvy friends that don't tinker with their phones and want a device that "just works". Different strokes for different folks... You will never see me carrying an apple device, EVER! :beer:
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http://www.phonenews.com/white-hous...falling-short-under-72-hours-remaining-22419/
Almost there!
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Made It...now, the waiting...
The petition made it's goal:
http://www.androidauthority.com/phone-unlocking-petition-goal-159064/
Now comes the waiting (like Tom Petty said, It's the Hardest Part).
This must be technically akin to what people with a history of cancer feel like while waiting for their own biopsy results.
Crossing my digits here, that was such a dumb, insensitive, openly 'corporate-paid' law...too quickly passed, too.
Nobody needs a chastity belt for their smartphone--it negates the intrinsic 'smart' of the phone itself, even!
How many people enjoy the freedom to change their mind on anything? How many dealerships will turn away repair work on another brand car?
Right now, this law is actually the worst kind of thing for U.S. trade, even...precisely timed as we discover how obsessed the Chinese government is with our trade secrets rather than even our military ones...
How can we compete with that, when they will not only be able to manufacture Android phones from any designs they might 'come across', as well as make them with any OS they please, at half any current U.S. prices? I'm sure AT&T, in all their wisdom, has a plan for that, though, should it ever even happen (beginning with scoffing).
No, they probably have vested interests already buying stock in generic Chinese phone manufacturing plants, themselves...
hmm...
After fulfilling a contract, shouldn't our ESN's be unlocked to be used on any cdma carrier? Where's that petition?
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mikedenney said:
This must be technically akin to what people with a history of cancer feel like while waiting for their own biopsy results.
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I doubt this is anything like waiting for test results concerning cancer.
All Apologies
Yeah...was rushed, meant to say 'the technical equivalent of'...
"Thanks, Jiminy Cricket".
so much for poetic license of any kind, in this venue anyway.
maybe I should start listening to metal again, 'metalfan'...
Maybe a nice, pleasant PM next time...eh?
metalfan78 said:
I doubt this is anything like waiting for test results concerning cancer.
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I'm sure you didn't mean it to sound rude. I didn't mean to sound rude towards you, it just rubbed me wrong. I could have sent you a PM, I didn't even think about it, sorry.
And my taste in music is irrelevant
metalfan78 said:
I'm sure you didn't mean it to sound rude. I didn't mean to sound rude towards you, it just rubbed me wrong. I could have sent you a PM, I didn't even think about it, sorry.
And my taste in music is irrelevant
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No need for you to say sorry. You didn't make the ignorant comment....
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That's true, but there is already too much bickering and drama on here, I stirred the pot enough with my first reply. Thanks though!
As I think is established, don't ever compare tech to cancer results. WTF?
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