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ok, since we bombarded them over the source releases, I think in all decentcy we should return to say thanks. It's easy to picket and raise hell, so we should at least go clap our hands, they could of easily given us the big finger.
What is it i'm thanking them for again?
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ok, since we bombarded them over the source releases, I think in all decentcy we should return to say thanks. It's easy to picket and raise hell, so we should at least go clap our hands, they could of easily given us the big finger.
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At first I read this and agreed 100%. Then as I gave it more thought I realized that would be like a teacher thanking their student for doing their homework or you thanking your mechanic for fixing your car...that's what they are supposed to do...legally required to do (lets not start that whole 'GPL wiggle room' meme again)...and they did it late.
I'm glad they did, I'm not sure if the facebook assault had anything to do with it, but I'm not sure they deserve a thank you for doing what they are required to do.
Just checked and my phone still says no updates available.
Done!
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Just checked and my phone still says no updates available.
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Apparently you don't know what 'Source' is...
This doesn't mean they have an update for you to download, it means that they released a copy of their kernel.
They only release the source because they are required too not because we asked them. If that was the case well you know the story.
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Apparently you don't know what 'Source' is...
This doesn't mean they have an update for you to download, it means that they released a copy of their kernel.
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Apparently not, na just didn't read all the words.. still
Not only that, they released the wrong kernel source. They f'ed up
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Lol! I totally thank my mechanic when he fixes my car. You thank people when they do things that you appreciate regardless of whether or not its something you're paying them to do. Its Just plain good taste. But yeah, I agree with the OP. Whenever anyone opens their source its a good tying. It allows endeavors like the XDA community to keep on deving.
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The simple fact is, they didn't have to do anything. Do you honestly believe we have rights as consumers? I mean really? Do I feel I owed them a thank you?, no. Is it a decent thing to do after the fact?,yes. They gave it to us sooner rather then later, or even at all for that matter. Human decentcy is a funny thing lately in this country, but whatever.
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Lol! I totally thank my mechanic when he fixes my car. You thank people when they do things that you appreciate regardless of whether or not its something you're paying them to do. Its Just plain good taste. But yeah, I agree with the OP. Whenever anyone opens their source its a good tying. It allows endeavors like the XDA community to keep on deving.
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Agreed!
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The simple fact is, they didn't have to do anything. Do you honestly believe we have rights as consumers? I mean really? Do I feel I owed them a thank you?, no. Is it a decent thing to do after the fact?,yes. They gave it to us sooner rather then later, or even at all for that matter. Human decentcy is a funny thing lately in this country, but whatever.
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I build ROMs and Skins and can't even get people to hit a simple "Thanks" button so you don't have to preach to me about it. Not that you are your just making a statement. I have no problem giving thanks, but I never *****ed about the source in the first place. I only *****ed about the other thing.
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The simple fact is, they didn't have to do anything. Do you honestly believe we have rights as consumers? I mean really? Do I feel I owed them a thank you?, no. Is it a decent thing to do after the fact?,yes. They gave it to us sooner rather then later, or even at all for that matter. Human decentcy is a funny thing lately in this country, but whatever.
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Back down there sparky...I believe I phrased my reply to indicate that I was indeed on the fence with the idea. I'm not laboring over my decision but I want to give it thought. The kernel source is subject to the rules of the GPL. They paid nothing for it and only have to abide by the rules of the license. One of those rules is that the source code must be made available (within a certain amount of time? I keep hearing 30 days but I'm not so sure).
I guess I just used poor analogies. You don't thank someone for not robbing your house...do you?
That said, in the name of fairness (and human decency...towards a corporation that has already demonstrated a desire to screw us as much as we will allow?) I'm still considering my stance.
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The simple fact is, they didn't have to do anything. Do you honestly believe we have rights as consumers? I mean really? Do I feel I owed them a thank you?, no. Is it a decent thing to do after the fact?,yes. They gave it to us sooner rather then later, or even at all for that matter. Human decentcy is a funny thing lately in this country, but whatever.
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Lol! I totally thank my mechanic when he fixes my car. You thank people when they do things that you appreciate regardless of whether or not its something you're paying them to do. Its Just plain good taste. But yeah, I agree with the OP. Whenever anyone opens their source its a good tying. It allows endeavors like the XDA community to keep on deving.
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I build ROMs and Skins and can't even get people to hit a simple "Thanks" button so you don't have to preach to me about it. Not that you are your just making a statement. I have no problem giving thanks, but I never *****ed about the source in the first place. I only *****ed about the other thing.
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I appreciate all the work that is done here, and I'm sorry that I cant contribute to that work. I wasn't calling out everybody here, most people didnt hit their page, but those of us that did, I felt a simple thanks would be good in the long term future. You know, maybe the evo3, instead of them being like **** those guys that spammed us last year and never came back, they may be like, hey lets get them the goods again, all the thanks looked good on our fb page. Social networking has given us power, much more than the old 800 number, simply because all complaints and gratitudes are in the public view of the world. Plus as a species thats struggling, again, simple decentcy is refreshing, and whats wrong with that?
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Back down there sparky...I believe I phrased my reply to indicate that I was indeed on the fence with the idea. I'm not laboring over my decision but I want to give it thought. The kernel source is subject to the rules of the GPL. They paid nothing for it and only have to abide by the rules of the license. One of those rules is that the source code must be made available (within a certain amount of time? I keep hearing 30 days but I'm not so sure).
I guess I just used poor analogies. You don't thank someone for not robbing your house...do you?
That said, in the name of fairness (and human decency...towards a corporation that has already demonstrated a desire to screw us as much as we will allow?) I'm still considering my stance.
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I appreciate all the work that is done here, and I'm sorry that I cant contribute to that work. I wasn't calling out everybody here, most people didnt hit their page, but those of us that did, I felt a simple thanks would be good in the long term future. You know, maybe the evo3, instead of them being like **** those guys that spammed us last year and never came back, they may be like, hey lets get them the goods again, all the thanks looked good on our fb page. Social networking has given us power, much more than the old 800 number, simply because all complaints and gratitudes are in the public view of the world. Plus as a species thats struggling, again, simple decentcy is refreshing, and whats wrong with that?
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When I first read the post I didn't read all the words like I said. I missed the part about the source code.
People just aren't as appreciative as they used to be. Thats what I think mostly America has become. I do get enough thanks for what I do and thats why I keep doing it. I know people like it even though they don't always show it.
I actually talked to HTC this morning and the first words out of my mouth were that I love their phones and what they do.
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That's pretty compelling...in the short run. In the long run I would hope that you are proven correct and it's certainly worth a shot. If they don't learn from this, well, we can always attack them again.
I think I just might give them a thanks. All of that positive PR would surely help convince them to do the same in the future.
Well I stopped by their Facebook to say thanks as soon as they posted it. I hit them up in a polite way every day asking for it, so I felt that I wanted to thank them for doing it in a timely matter. Other companies and phones take much longer. Now, if I still had my OG EVO, I would not have thanked them for releasing today. I mean when did the GB update for the OG EVO come out? And they are just releasing it today? This is my opinion, not that anyone asked for it.
I think we should file a suit against apple for patent and judicial system abuse. Their weak patents and ridiculous lawsuits are costing us dearly. Their ridiculous patents are delaying our phones. They are new to this game and don't have right to be such a holes. Anyone here an attorney and willing to put these rich pricks in their place?
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I think we should file a suit against apple for patent and judicial system abuse. Their weak patents and ridiculous lawsuits are costing us dearly. Their ridiculous patents are delaying our phones. They are new to this game and don't have right to be such a holes. Anyone here an attorney and willing to put these rich pricks in their place?
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The American Way....
personally.. this isn't worth the $5.05 ill get in the mail from apple.. You'll never get as much as you hope and dream for..
Dude a slight delay in your brand spanking new phone isn't a cause of action. It's not like you don't already have one. Good luck demonstrating economic or even any loss at all.
Just calm down and wait a few more days.
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HTC and/or Sprint may have cause for a class action lawsuit because it may have hurt their profits, but we consumers don't.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r1CZTLk-Gk&feature=youtube_gdata_player
This video says it all
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtNHuqHWefU
Was that in response to my post or the op lol
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Was that in response to my post or the op lol
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op, no real offense intended!
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op, no real offense intended!
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Ok lol no offense intended here either btw
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HTC and/or Sprint may have cause for a class action lawsuit because it may have hurt their profits, but we consumers don't.
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Two parties does not equal class action, but you are right, they may have a claim. However, Apple appears to be acting in good faith (ie. protecting their patents) so it would be hard to prove that they did this purely out of malice or a motivation to interfere.
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Two parties does not equal class action, but you are right, they may have a claim. However, Apple appears to be acting in good faith (ie. protecting their patents) so it would be hard to prove that they did this purely out of malice or a motivation to interfere.
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This is why corporate crime should be policed just as heavily as personal. There was clearly a crime committed here, and the U.S. Government was their weapon. How malice and messed up is that? News of this comes to a company on the day it's launch phones are in the mail? Apples pockets are deep, I guarantee they knew what they were doing. If it looks like s.... smells like s.... and tastes like s.... it probably is s....
And here sprint fronts the bill, when they shouldn't have to and buys everyone who waited a case.
Again - I don't think your seeing the legitimacy of Apple's claim. I'm not saying it was right, or that they are right. In the eyes of the law, they do have the right to make that claim and enforce it through legal action. Now the real issue comes down to whether or not Apple is hindering HTC's business purely to mess with them. I don't think that is the case - it would cost millions of dollars to enforce such a claim with absolutely no guarantee of success. Yes that is a drop in the bucket, but justifying that kind of legal expense has to occur on someone's budget.
It would be up to HTC's counter-claim (if successful) to prove more likely than not - whether Apple's action was purely obstructive. The law will always look at the evidence in the light most favorable to the person being sued (similar to the concept of jurisprudence), and in the case of a counter-claim that would be Apple.
HTC's claim of obstruction would have to be clearly egregious in order for it to be sustained in court (likewise, Apple's claim of infringement). For those of you who have a problem with this - pray that you never become a defendant in any court matter.
Guys, lets think clearly for a minute- please.
Apple believes that they have a patent that HTC has infringed upon. They take proper action and bring their claim in font of the International Trade Commission. The ITC then sides with them! How Apple can somehow be responsible for intentionally causing damage to a potential "class" for the above actions is beyond me.
Anyway, lets continue for the purpose of illustrating the absurdity of Apple being sued.
The ITC judge tells HTC that they need to remove the features from the phone that Apple holds patents for. HTC agrees. Then, subsequently HTC comes back and states that they don't feel they need to remove the core functionality, as they have found a way to code around the patent. Whether or not this had any impact on the delay itself, I don't know but it could have.
Even if somehow, the ultimate conspiracy theorist was able to prove Apple somehow had done all of this purposefully, Apples claims are still 100% valid.
I do believe that the guys in Cupertino got a huge rise out of this, I am sure they were laughing their asses off. However, from their perspective this is just a fortunate side effect of a completely legitimate claim that was being enforced by an International body and not Apple themselves.
All I know is because of this Apple lawsuit my youtube links open in a browser and not an app.
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Dude a slight delay in your brand spanking new phone isn't a cause of action. It's not like you don't already have one. Good luck demonstrating economic or even any loss at all.
Just calm down and wait a few more days.
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i sorry but i agree with ElephantKiller, Not to mention that they have already been given the (unjust) right to claim an absurd patent. All your doing is wasting time. apple doesn't care. They believe they are right to protect their product.
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All I know is because of this Apple lawsuit my youtube links open in a browser and not an app.
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Root Phone, rename or delete the file htclinkifydispatcher.apk in system/app then clear the browser app defaults with app manager. Reboot, enjoy the choices you will get to make.
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Root Phone, rename or delete the file htclinkifydispatcher.apk in system/app then clear the browser app defaults with app manager. Reboot, enjoy the choices you will get to make.
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Tried this on my Evo 3D (because the ICS ROM also ships with this) and unfortunately it doesn't work =( once I clear defaults and I try to tap on a YouTube link, nothing happens.
I suggest people try it on the Evo LTE, maybe it works there because I have Sense 3.6, perhaps and hopefully it works different on 4.0.
Haha, I share your pain, I too feel slighted by this recent fiasco. However, as stated already, there is no "class action" suit to be had. So what are we left to do, what can we the mere lowely consumers do? Don't buy Apple. Simple.
Maybe after you and I recieve our phones, we "show off" our phones to those we know that own an iPhone. Perhaps we do our best to promote the Android platform. Explain the inherent superiority of open source. Demonstrate the overwhelming edge we have in capabilities, & customization abilities.
The sad fact is, Apple has the lions share of the market, extremely deep pockets, and apparently the ear of some influential higher-ups. Not to mention the mindless fan boy, status symbol toting majority of iPhone users that will buy an iPhone regardless of what may come along, just because it's an iPhone.
But take heart my Android loving friends. How long has it been since Apple has had a revolutionary idea they brought to the table? When did their business strategy go from marketing to desperate/frivolous patent infringement claims? How far behind the curve are they?
Go take your shiny new phone and compare it to a new IP4S, what do you notice? Sad isn't it? It's a matter of time. Open source platform IS the future. Apples closed source, "we own that idea" mentality WILL be it's downfall. Might take five years, could be twenty, mark my words, Apple is headed for decline, and they know it.
Hahaha, well I feel better now. Back to my beer and the off topic lounge. -jamie
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http://m.engadget.com/2012/08/24/apple-samsung-respond-september-20th-injunction-hearing/
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These threads should be banned, as they generate little to no actual discussion.
Sure, it sucks for Samsung. But a lot of what Apple went after them for at least made a little sense. Samsung blatantly copied Apple in many situations. And even if there were examples of prior technology that fit the case, Apple was able to show that Samsung intentionally copied Apple's work instead of basing work off of said prior technology.
Before we start a circlejerk of people condemning Apple and all of its employees to hell, please realize that this was a legitimate legal decision and the people who made this decision put a lot of thought into it. I'm not happy that Samsung lost either, but I also believe that they lost for a reason.
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These threads should be banned, as they generate little to no actual discussion.
Sure, it sucks for Samsung. But a lot of what Apple went after them for at least made a little sense. Samsung blatantly copied Apple in many situations. And even if there were examples of prior technology that fit the case, Apple was able to show that Samsung intentionally copied Apple's work instead of basing work off of said prior technology.
Before we start a circlejerk of people condemning Apple and all of its employees to hell, please realize that this was a legitimate legal decision and the people who made this decision put a lot of thought into it. I'm not happy that Samsung lost either, but I also believe that they lost for a reason.
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i agree with sorax64....part of Samsung success with galaxy s versions is that Samsung copied Apple's work...
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This is why i only buy HTC. If i wanted an iphone clone i would buy Samsung.
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This is why i only buy HTC. If i wanted an iphone clone i would buy Samsung.
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eric00716!!!! i agree with you bro
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This major win with a major competitor will only give birth to a whole new round of suits and new strategy that will probably lead to us being phucked over. The realization of apple being a monopoly is becoming ever more true. You think the bs we had to put up with when our EVOs were held in customs was crap, just wait. I see bad things heading our way. I know Samsung copied apple. We all said that awhile ago. But jeez, if the courts will agree with apple that a rectangle with rounded corners is copying, then what does that say for us?
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If I was running apples legal department I would Sue Samsung also they are tearing there sales apart all apple needs to do to dominate the market again is make more choices for there phone bigger screens easy hacking and better ui improvements come on apple dust off those thinking caps and make a new product instead of pumping out the same phone every year.
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Maybe apple deserved this one...but This sets precedent.for apple to go ape**** on everyone ..and they will...they just acquired another billion dollars ..enough to have a full time kill android legal team for 200 years
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Maybe apple deserved this one...but This sets precedent.for apple to go ape**** on everyone ..and they will...they just acquired another billion dollars ..enough to have a full time kill android legal team for 200 years
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Ha.. A billion dollars. Should be able to pay their lawyers with that.
It's not like Apple is going to be able to go willy nilly on other OEMs now. They don't have the resources for that, and if they keep it up, Google will eventually step in.
Exactly that's what I'm saying...apple isnt gonna stop at this..google is gonna need to get involved..which it looks like they did with the Motorola suit..everyone knows moto is an ip bank..
I wonder what type of phones the judge and members of the jury use?
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As much as I love Android, I kind of have to agree that some of the devices that Samsung were making did look like iFails. Hell, I think Touchwiz does. I will say though, that Apple suing anyone for stealing ideas when they themselves have done so repeatedly in the past is just bs.
Here's the break down of what was infringed. Placement of home button? Thin frame with rounded corners? Serious!? I'm no Samsung fan, but for the sake of our future of android devices I was rooting for Sammy.
http://m.engadget.com/2012/08/25/br...oom-victory-over-samsung/?icid=eng_latest_art
Hahaha its already begun:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30692579
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Like I.said..that's the scary part..they went to court with these bs patents and they won..now every phone that has those traits can be targeted..this is just the beggning im afraid..esp when its prob difficult to find a jury that isn't a iPhone or android user ..and its the patent that's the issue..once granted the court will uphold their decision..that's where reform needs to begin
I wouldn't worry. This will probably be overturned. A lot of mistakes by the jury.
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I can see it now. 10 minutes after the court case is over. The judge and jury walk back to their cars talking on their IPhones... Lol
WUESTSIDER X!
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This thread has turned out better than one from yesterday started by the "law school" guy
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This thread has turned out better than one from yesterday started by the "law school" guy
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That's like saying the dump you took today didn't smell as bad as the one you took yesterday.
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That's like saying the dump you took today didn't smell as bad as the one you took yesterday.
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Funny since a lot of people around here do believe that their chit don't stink.... :beer:
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Seeing how samsung stock is plummeting and the overall affect this could have on the android operating system, I feel this is relevant. Mods close if you disagree.
My issue is this. Most of the tech mags im reading are not covering the glaring mistakes made by the jury. There seems to be a finality to the court decision in the news. "See we knew all along apple was being copied and this is what it will mean in the future". Personally I feel this will be overturned. I'm going to site a source from Gizmodo which also sites the Verge as one of their sources.
This is a good read. Please weigh in. Please be mature. And anyone with legal experience please lay your expertise on us.
The mistakes made by the jury are down right embarressing. And their desire to talk to the media is just making it worse for them.
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Over turned as well here. If not then Moto will win their suit against Apple hands down. Personally, they should just end the madness
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Over turned as well here. If not then Moto will win their suit against Apple hands down. Personally, they should just end the madness
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I think it would need to go to the supreme court to really make a difference in the us
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Whatever the outcome, I hope this starts pushing manufacturers to just put AOSP ROMs on our phones--all Nexus, all the time.
Apple is only adding to its demise as a company and a staus symbol. Personally i feel that all this court time they're using is a waste of tax payers money and time. What happened to the law about monopolies in the US im pretty sure thats what apple is trying to become. Is there no such thing as being better because you are not because you own a patent. Imagine what it would be like if sports and car manufacturers were like this. What do we just turn our cheek since its an american company and they're going against foreigners. I say the legal system needs to say f u apple step up your game so u can compete instead of being a ***** and running to mommy because some asshole at school took your lunch money.
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Whatever the outcome, I hope this starts pushing manufacturers to just put AOSP ROMs on our phones--all Nexus, all the time.
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That's what I'm hoping for too. But Apple's vendetta is against android in general, so I'm sure they'll find something to sue over...and there's still the hardware to consider. If Apple truly owns "rectangles with rounded corners", it'll be interesting to see what kind of form factors we'll be looking at in the future.
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Software patent law in the U.S. is broken, and hurts the consumer - If you haven't already, consider signing the online petition for reform that's going around:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1853215
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Software patent law in the U.S. is broken, and hurts the consumer - If you haven't already, consider signing the online petition for reform that's going around:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1853215
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I hope that does some good. For the short term Samsung needs to appeal.
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I think android as a whole i.e. google, htc, sammy, moto, and the low low end companies need to unite and fight apple and there bs patents as a whole and not one by one because it will be ruled in favor of apple everytime because they got home turf advantage. No american is going to rule against an american owned american built american ran company in america. That would go against everything we as americans have been taught and what we believe in. And 90% of americans for whatever reason are blind to the fact that america dont produce a third of whats built and made in america. Hell my ford was assembled and built in canada my chevy was in mexico oh and the kicker is my stryker (the 8 wheeled armor vehicle the army uses) was manufactured built and thought up in canada the company is just based in america. So if our military is going to go outside the US for weapons and vehicles then we should be happy and willing to do the same for our cell phones and other electronics and at least not be biased when it comes down to it in a courtroom setting.
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All this is very upsetting to me .I don't like where this is going..and if something doesn't change the cell phone world may be in for some drastic changes... and I want my HTC s4 pro adreno 320 2gb DDR 3 ram and 4.7 HD display aosp phone... and i don't want apple ruining it
Despite being a dot net developer I've stuck with android because it can do more. If Google somehow loses ill go windows phone for sure cause I already know how to make apps for it.
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Despite being a dot net developer I've stuck with android because it can do more. If Google somehow loses ill go windows phone for sure cause I already know how to make apps for it.
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Android is the clear leader now. I wouldn't worry
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Android is the clear leader now. I wouldn't worry
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+1 its so obvious from apples actions that android is top dog and apples trying everything it can to level the playing field. They can feel the walls slowly closing in and the lights getting dimmer for their reign as a technological giant and all they can do is claw and scratch at the dirt walls of the hole they dug themselves into. I for one find it amusing that they have to resort to this level of pediness (sp?) And just all together humiliating tactics that theyre trying to use.
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must be overturned but we have seen stranger things.
From reading the article it seems the jurors didn't have the knowledge or maybe the willingness to preside over this case. I'm going out on a limb here but wasn't Samsung supposed to be judged by a jury of it's peers. Obviously the jury couldn't consist of electronic companies but it should have been made of people that work in that field or people with specific educations. Juries in trials like this shouldn't be picked from the general masses.
Also is it possible for Samsung to get a fair trial in the U.S
Its not possible for any foreign company to get a fair trial in the US were way to biased for that. Plus were in a recession so we need american jobs to stay in america and go to americans. Honestly its all politics and whoever has the bigger wallet wins the case or at least can get a decision of what they want. The legal system in this country is so far in the ****ter that it would take a total revamp of it to get it to be 5% better than it is now. 2 cases i can think of off top of head that prove this: the oj trial (what a joke) and the jon bennet incident granted these cases are old as hell and some people reading are say wtf are you talking about it still proves my point. **** even if you take a look at big business cases martha stewart goes to jail for alleged insider trading where as the top people in charge of enron walk freely with their pockets stuffed to the max. And citizens wander whats wrong with the country and how did we end up in the economic state were in now. End rant.
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That would just make android more like apple. The point of android is choice, if all of our phones ran the exact same software and ui where's the choice? You would have to root your phone just to get something different. Which isn't a big deal to me because all of my phones have been rooted, but others like to be able to choose a different ui just by picking different phones by different manufacturers.
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+1 its so obvious from apples actions that android is top dog and apples trying everything it can to level the playing field. They can feel the walls slowly closing in and the lights getting dimmer for their reign as a technological giant and all they can do is claw and scratch at the dirt walls of the hole they dug themselves into. I for one find it amusing that they have to resort to this level of pediness (sp?) And just all together humiliating tactics that theyre trying to use.
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Pettiness.
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PsiPhiDan said:
Pettiness.
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Thanks man i knew someone would fix lol
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No problem, I'm anal about that stuff, haha. It's my inner-teacher.
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700 question complaint and they take all of 22 hours to reach a verdict. Even patent experts would need more time to review. Apple's own lawyers weren't prepared for such a quick verdict
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Perfect example of why many of these people are sheep....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdIWKytq_q4&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Hahahahahaha they're just cash cows for apple...
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That's one of the funniest things I've watched in awhile. Morons.
"We're coming from a pure power source"
OMG that's awesome
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Baaaahhhhhh..... Unbelievable, some of those fools had the same phone in their hands and couldn't tell the difference... It's irrelevant anyhow, as the new iPhone is really just getting caught up to the evo LTE, sg3, oneX, etc...
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Lmfao!
Just goes to show how smart iPhone people actually are.
They just buy it because their next door neighbor has one and they wanna compare to them or feel better.
Fkn idiots.
I'm sure they took out the people who were smart enough to notice and not just blindly assume its a new superior phone. Most of those people look confused and I'm sure they just didn't want to look like they're out of the loop
This was an article I just saw . Total fluff piece saying how great the new iPhone is, when really it's playing catch up. They brag that iPhone users can now take panoramic photos lol. And apple says Samsung copies. SMH
http://mobile.businessweek.com/arti...phone-5-apple-again-raises-the-smartphone-bar
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That video is awesome lol
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om4 said:
I'm sure they took out the people who were smart enough to notice and not just blindly assume its a new superior phone. Most of those people look confused and I'm sure they just didn't want to look like they're out of the loop
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This. Using the magic of video editing to prove a point is great, isn't it?
All in all, I gotta say it's a beautiful phone. One aspect of Apple has always been great design. Two pieces of glass has in fact proven to be an ignorant decision, but damn if it doesn't look good. Still it does bother me to see so many people happy to see outdated features. I had canned sms and sms reply (call rejection) well before I ever owned a smartphone. The panorama? I have quite a few nokias lying around that have more then a reasonable amount of vacation panoramas. LTE? Poor Steve, he really believed it was too early and I'm easily swayed by his argument considering that all major providers are still in the middle of expanding lte coverage. So what if android got it first? How many of you can actually use it reliably and not as a "look what I can do" moment. NFC? Again, Steve Jobs believed it was too young of a technology and thus an unnecessary impact on performance (however small). Look around, how many reliably working nfc terminals are in retail? I have two gas stations that support nfc, but only one will accept my evo. The phone is nice, the quality definitely appears to be a step up from the previous, it finally has features that bring it up to par with the cellphones I had in the 90's. I still don't like Apple products, I don't think a certain incomplete (yes, even Andy Rubin has admitted it's far from what he considers finished) linux based operating system is any superior. I like my particular phone and it suits me for the time being. I will never understand why so many people take such pleasure in seeing ill-informed people who's more rational sense of being is being obscured by vanity.
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Perfect example of why many of these people are sheep....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdIWKytq_q4&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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F**kin idiots
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*sigh* You do realize, people who instantly buy into what is clearly biased video editing can be described by that same insult
I refer to the iphone nutswingers as sheople :laugh:
It's still funny, even if it is edited. Especially the ones holding the same phone in their other hand.
"We're coming from a pure power source"
Yea but as I said before, a few of them seemed to be confused initially. With a camera documenting your reaction to the phone, and quite possibly being a publicity stunt for the latest product. Would you want to appear a foolish rube out of touch with technology? It appears to be vanity more then ignorance or stupidity.
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Yea but as I said before, a few of them seemed to be confused initially. With a camera documenting your reaction to the phone, and quite possibly being a publicity stunt for the latest product. Would you want to appear a foolish rube out of touch with technology? It appears to be vanity more then ignorance or stupidity.
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I totally agree.
You may be right, they could be vane. They could just be techno-stupid. I would have to attribute it to Apple's superb marketing.
"We're coming from a pure power source"
They do have a reasonably aggressive marketing strategy. The beauty of it, is that it does not appear aggressive at all (lawsuits are not marketing, although in Samsung's case it could be)
OMFG. I saw this and it just clearly shows how ignorant and stupid a person has to be in order to operate such a silly device.
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om4 said:
Yea but as I said before, a few of them seemed to be confused initially. With a camera documenting your reaction to the phone, and quite possibly being a publicity stunt for the latest product. Would you want to appear a foolish rube out of touch with technology? It appears to be vanity more then ignorance or stupidity.
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I agree but acting like you "know" when in fact you don't, makes you come off as more of a jacka$$...
All in all, the iPhone is a nice device, as to simply put it, "it just works". I recommend them to my non tech savvy friends that don't tinker with their phones and want a device that "just works". Different strokes for different folks... You will never see me carrying an apple device, EVER! :beer:
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