[APP] Undeletable Theft Protection - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Ok, here is a riddle to solve for ya:
Theft protection software is crucial these days on every smartphone and chosing the right one is not really easy. I've only been using SeekDroid and have been thinking about trying Prey so far, but while I read an article about Theft Aware functioning beyond factory reset of the phone, this riddle came to my mind:
What if the phone gets stolen by someone knowing how to flash a new ROM or read about it? I've got 4EXT (always latest version) installed - is there some software that integrates into recovery and cannot be deleted without the correct code or something?
Oh, and before you answer: Keep stuff like "naa dude, that'll never happen" to yourself. Thanks.

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You can try avast it writes its own partition so a factory reset or flashing a Rom won't work check it out
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snowman122 said:
You can try avast it writes its own partition so a factory reset or flashing a Rom won't work check it out
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Thanks. Where does it write this partition?
Is it undeletable even through recovery?

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Try cerberus. Amazing anti-theft. And to answer your question, nothing is safe from a standard/CWM recovery. It can wipe anything. TWRP supposedly has a recovery either just finished or in the works which is encrypted and requires a password to use, but I don't know for sure.
As for avast, I'm fairly sure it doesn't write a new partition. It just installs it to system.

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I'm using avast, seems ok at the moment, not needed to use the anti theft yet.
Adding a pin code to 4ext recovery would be an awesome idea! Perhaps its possible to do?
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Thanks a lot for the valuable information...

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Cerberus is the best app for this. Try it!!!
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Juanmiwow said:
Cerberus is the best app for this. Try it!!!
Enviado desde mi GT-i9001 usando Tapatalk 2
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No it isn't. It clearly states it can be un installed by flashing a ROM.
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Thanks a lot for the valuable information...
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You may press the thanks button in my first post. Could someone point the developer of 4EXT to my thread?

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SecUpwN said:
You may press the thanks button in my first post. Could someone point the developer of 4EXT to my thread?
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how about you go to the 4ext devs thread

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SecUpwN said:
You may press the thanks button in my first post. Could someone point the developer of 4EXT to my thread?
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madmaxx82 the coder of 4ext is working on 4ext to get on the next level.
May you ask himself for such a feature.
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At his twitterprofile you can see an answer on passwordrequests!

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okmijnlp said:
No it isn't. It clearly states it can be un installed by flashing a ROM.
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Because they're honest. I'm pretty sure ANY anti-theft app can be un installed by flashing a ROM (more specifically by wiping data and system). Only by locking your bootloader and recovery can this be gotten around.
Here's a discussion in another thread with ideas hashed out. Should help us by giving ideas. http://rootzwiki.com/index.php?/topic/29233-Lost-/-Stolen-Phone-apps:-the-best-of-the-best

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Kameirus said:
how about you go to the 4ext devs thread
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Tell me where it is, please.

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Check this out (have not tried yet):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1775488

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SecUpwN said:
Tell me where it is, please.
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here ya go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1675417

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Kameirus said:
here ya go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1675417
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You must be one of these guys walking around and asking everybody if they "heard about jesus"..
GerManiac said:
Check this out (have not tried yet):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1775488
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Thanks. Root Defense seems to survive a full wipe, but what I'm looking for is a software that even survives a ROM reflash and is not erasable through recovery without some code or pattern..

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SecUpwN said:
What the f*ck am I supposed with that link?
Thanks. Root Defense seems to survive a full wipe, but what I'm looking for is a software that even survives a ROM reflash and is not erasable through recovery without some code or pattern..
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read it very slowly 40 or 50 times and then maybe go back and read the forum rules again
its called search for what your looking for
quit being lazy and expecting everyone to do it for you

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Kameirus said:
read it very slowly 40 or 50 times and then maybe go back and read the forum rules again
its called search for what your looking for
quit being lazy and expecting everyone to do it for you
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Dear Mr. Kameirus, thank you so much for posting this useful contribution. My sensors have detected a slight raise of your body temperature and a minimal change of your voice tonality, which leads me to the question if you might be emotionally overwhelmed by my complicated question above. But at least you are smart enough and have the balls to throw out a "yo homie, use the search button". Here, take your cookie.

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Avast! can survive a Cyanogenmod flash. But I think that's as close as we're going to get at the moment.
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mouzzza said:
madmaxx82 the coder of 4ext is working on 4ext to get on the next level.
May you ask himself for such a feature.
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At his twitterprofile you can see an answer on passwordrequests!
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Does he have a thread for his 4EXT here on XDA? If so, please point me to it. Mr. madmaxx82 has 1 new message to read in his inbox.