Can some one please explain why i see only 779 Mb of memory on my Galaxy S3
The rest is reserved for graphics
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out of 1024 mb only 778 or 779 is available for user because the rest is reserved for hardware and graphics
There's a recent topic by devoted developer Andreilux in original android development section regarding this issue, you should check it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1856133
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Thank you everyone for the clarification.
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aegeuss said:
There's a recent topic by devoted developer Andreilux in original android development section regarding this issue, you should check it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1856133
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wow thanks . imissed this thread
This is why I was so pissed when they gave the US versions of the SGS III 2GB of ram instead of the regular 1GB.
I know it only has a dual core but we could really use that extra GB...
Out of the 779, almost 550-600 MB are used, even during bootup.
Why?
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Out of the 779, almost 550-600 MB are used, even during bootup.
Why?
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It's not used its being cached, that's the way android handles memory. Free memory = wasted memory in Android.
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It's not used its being cached, that's the way android handles memory. Free memory = wasted memory in Android.
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Great but why multitasking in S3 is so f****d up compaired to s2?! For example if you let opera to download a bigger file in background you will have one surprise: download will fail cause the task manager will kill the app. This is not happening in s2. Or if you are playing a game and you receive a phone call if you speak more then, let's say 10 minutes the game is killed. Also not happening in s2.
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We have a bigger screen, more resolution, a bigger cpu and gpu etc. 1 gb of ram unfortunately simply is not enough for a quality multi taking. Please note Samsung has just announced Galaxy Note 2 with 2 gb of ram! So, instead of fine tuning ram with low level optimizations why not more muscle said they.
There are a few ways to free some ram and use a swap file to maximize ram usage. I got perfect results with hard swap and now waiting for a compatible kernel for JB.
Meanwhile please have a look at these topics: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1812668 and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1814311
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I've been meaning to ask about this.
I keep getting redraw in the chrome browser which in turn loses the place I was reading. I'll come out of chrome and open up 2 apps (just recreated it by opening twitter and tv guide) then go back in chrome which will then refresh the page.
Is this a problem with memory usage or the launcher being useless (I'm running apex)?
I am rooted but it happened before root
Im using Apex and the same happens with me when using chrome sometimes. It doesnt refresh just redraws the screen, as if i manually refresh there is new data viewable on the page which wasnt there last time i was looking
I am using Galaxy S series from the beginning for years and I kind a feel like Samsung development team decided to move slightly different than we, the customers, wanted. I think somewhere along the road a guy from marketing department told them that it is better to come with new apps in each new phone than to polish what we have in hand. It may sound firm on paper but it sucks in real life. Now, I don't want to insult Samsung software developers in any way or to undermine their efforts in these devices but it's clear every time we have apps working with 75% productivity which is like updating your living room furniture without assembled with all texture for example. I don't want a phone with half baked, new and used applications but a device which is fully optimized.
I'll give you a very simple example: First Galaxy S came with Wolfson audio chip on it, which has still a very good quality. But there was a great place for improvement and a qualified developer, Supercurio, came with Voodoo sound which some of still use it to listen to music. It was that quality. Samsung decided to work with Yamaha in Galaxy S 2 which produced silly and funny results as we all know, which was a big mistake from Samsung team. Now they have included again Wolfson chipset in S 3, which is great. Now what do you expect as an ordinary customer? Samsung uses Wolfson again, they know very well about Supercurio and great Voodoo sound but instead of utilizing him we find that nothing has been done on Samsung side to utilise this. It's like giving a customer a live, unbucked chicken in a restaurant and to say him eat it himself. What is funny here, in ICS Siyah kernel, developer Gökhan Moral, used some parts of voodoo sound code and voila we have a way better sound in our S 3 devices with a two and half years of code. While we, the excited users are trying to get more from our devices the head of developers are sitting in Samsung center thinking about what a useless thing can I bring on the table next time instead of getting it better.
It's the same from the beginning in screen, memory, etc. The did choose not use a simple notification led stubbornly and deliberately for two phone versions for Christ's sake. And we are still waiting for Supercurio to come up with Display Expert who has been working on it for about two years for better color production, contrast, image quality etc. It's funny that many custom kernels use the feature for improving fonts readability. What I am saying is, it's Samsung who should be dealing with these fine tuning things in order for the customer to get the best benefit from the device, not excited developers. It seems to me Samsung is paying a useless salary to many people in software development.
Sorry, it's been a long post but this is what I feel about three years of Samsung experience. The reason I can not get angry to other manufacturers is that they just can't get a quality hardware. So there's not a place for development much in HTC, Sony, Motorola or LG products. Samsung comes with great hardware and spoils it by following HTC; they also used so much energy and time on Touch3D - Sense interface and forgot to improve the rest of the device. Samsung puts too much and unimportant effort to Touchwiz and forgets the rest software.
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Im using Apex and the same happens with me when using chrome sometimes. It doesnt refresh just redraws the screen, as if i manually refresh there is new data viewable on the page which wasnt there last time i was looking
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Yeah it's not great problem but it's a bit of ballache, I am thinking about flashing a different rom but waiting until JB has been released so maybe that will solve the problem.
puiradu2009 said:
Great but why multitasking in S3 is so f****d up compaired to s2?! For example if you let opera to download a bigger file in background you will have one surprise: download will fail cause the task manager will kill the app. This is not happening in s2. Or if you are playing a game and you receive a phone call if you speak more then, let's say 10 minutes the game is killed. Also not happening in s2.
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Regardless of the mobile higher memory utilization will trigger task killing in the background, s2 didn't had this problem because it consumed less memory. S3 uses more memory, but still by tweaking it properly you can minimise taks killing. Disabling some unwanted apps in stock rom will release more memory and thus in turn reduce the chances of task getting killed.
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It's not used its being cached, that's the way android handles memory. Free memory = wasted memory in Android.
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thats not true at all free ram not wasted ram , when the system start to kill apps and launcher u will not be happy at all :silly::silly:
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I've had my vibrant since it came out. They have 512 of ram hardware. I know we've gotten up to 344 or so with tweaking, but why can't we get the full 512 at all?
I have a feeling it has to do with Samsung or drivers, but with everything I've seen devs overcome I can't see why this is still a problem.
I have a nook color which has inferior hardware overall, but the biggest reason I see it as more stable is it never has memory management issues(running any rom). My biggest reasons to dump my vibrant for a Hercules or comparable is because of the constant ram issues the vibrant has that they wont, along with better hardware.
Maybe the answer is out there, but I haven't seen it in a whole year(so answers could be outdated), nor it brought up for a very long time.
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That 512 MB is shared ram. So some of it is dedicated to the video processor which is built into CPU. Phones have to be slim and light I don't think well be seeing dedicated videocards and soundcards anytime soon.
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The simple answer is that our system needs to set aside a certain amount of ram for the actual OS to use, nothing that we can necessarily touch. Certain apps occupy memory at all times and we're left with whatever memory hasn't been allocated by OS. I'm not the most technical but that's the general consensus from what I've read over the last 2 years of running Android.
If you want to really push the limits of what free ram you can achieve, I would highly suggest reading the OP of this thread. In there you'll see how you can adjust the way your system handles recently opened and closed apps. My phone feels a million times better, just using those simple to use tweaks/scripts.
Let me know if you need any help.
- Mat
dardani89 said:
That 512 MB is shared ram. So some of it is dedicated to the video processor which is built into CPU. Phones have to be slim and light I don't think well be seeing dedicated videocards and soundcards anytime soon.
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I know the nook has no dedicated gpu, but it makes use of most if not all of that ram.. unless I am playing a graphically intensive game, it rarely drops below 100mb available ram, usually staying around 150+ until I've opened a ton of apps. Oh, and many phones that are coming out have a dedicated gpu, such as all of the variants of the samsung galaxy S II. it has a Dual-core 1.2GHz ARM Cortex-A9 proccessor, Mali-400MP GPU, Exynos chipset.. and awesome battery life I have heard.
Either way, my nook color doesn't experience the laggyness that my vibrant does until I have used so much it makes sense, but considering my vibrant stays around 60mb of available ram +/- most of the time..
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The simple answer is that our system needs to set aside a certain amount of ram for the actual OS to use, nothing that we can necessarily touch. Certain apps occupy memory at all times and we're left with whatever memory hasn't been allocated by OS. I'm not the most technical but that's the general consensus from what I've read over the last 2 years of running Android.
If you want to really push the limits of what free ram you can achieve, I would highly suggest reading the OP of this thread. In there you'll see how you can adjust the way your system handles recently opened and closed apps. My phone feels a million times better, just using those simple to use tweaks/scripts.
Let me know if you need any help.
- Mat
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You have no idea how hard I have been trying to find that app, I was going to try it when I was running simply honeyv5 because the memory issues were so horrible, but I couldn't find it again, and minfreemanager was the next best thing.. so I am VERY glad you posted it.
Are you using a specific set of pre-made settings, a specific script, or some custom setup, and which?
I am just trying to get my vibrant as usable as possible until the hercules and other comparable phones come out, so I can weigh them against each other. I don't regret my vibrant, but I wish I had waited a little longer so I had made a more informed choice.. if I can make it kickass again, at least for a few months, I will be a happy guy. Thanks again.
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I know the nook has no dedicated gpu, but it makes use of most if not all of that ram.. unless I am playing a graphically intensive game, it rarely drops below 100mb available ram, usually staying around 150+ until I've opened a ton of apps. Oh, and many phones that are coming out have a dedicated gpu, such as all of the variants of the samsung galaxy S II. it has a Dual-core 1.2GHz ARM Cortex-A9 proccessor, Mali-400MP GPU, Exynos chipset.. and awesome battery life I have heard.
Either way, my nook color doesn't experience the laggyness that my vibrant does until I have used so much it makes sense, but considering my vibrant stays around 60mb of available ram +/- most of the time..
You have no idea how hard I have been trying to find that app, I was going to try it when I was running simply honeyv5 because the memory issues were so horrible, but I couldn't find it again, and minfreemanager was the next best thing.. so I am VERY glad you posted it.
Are you using a specific set of pre-made settings, a specific script, or some custom setup, and which?
I am just trying to get my vibrant as usable as possible until the hercules and other comparable phones come out, so I can weigh them against each other. I don't regret my vibrant, but I wish I had waited a little longer so I had made a more informed choice.. if I can make it kickass again, at least for a few months, I will be a happy guy. Thanks again.
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No problem man. I'm actually using option #9 in V8 right now and it's been a dream. It stops holding apps in memory after not using them a few seconds, which is great for what I'm looking for. What you'll find is that it manages the memory and how quickly things are slotted around (different priorities that android gives particular applications; Launcher, Dialer, Messaging, etc.). You can actually try every option and see which you find the best.
I started out with option #2 and then moved all the way down as I found things I didn't like in some, but liked in others.Give it a shot man!
- Mat
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No problem man. I'm actually using option #9 in V8 right now and it's been a dream. It stops holding apps in memory after not using them a few seconds, which is great for what I'm looking for. What you'll find is that it manages the memory and how quickly things are slotted around (different priorities that android gives particular applications; Launcher, Dialer, Messaging, etc.). You can actually try every option and see which you find the best.
I started out with option #2 and then moved all the way down as I found things I didn't like in some, but liked in others.Give it a shot man!
- Mat
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I'm actually using number 2 now in the allandroidv8 script, and if anything maybe it is too aggressive, but it has it's snappiness back. Looking at how they set the rom I'm using and the one before it, it looks like they didn't tweak it at all from stock cm7.. if anything I think they've made tweaks it more recent nightlies better than those roms! Simply honey(who brags about how great they are) and Biff ron both need some tweaking.. I'm gonna play with it, but thanks for posting what I was trying so hard to find
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Hi!
Because of the low memory issue in the International edition, I request for all Kernel Dev's that implement the possibility of the use of Swap file.
There are programs that make and use this Swap file to get more free RAM, but this programs needs that the Kernel support it.
Like :
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...sMSwxLDEsIm9yZy5hemFzb2Z0LmZyZWUuc3dhcHBlciJd
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=lv.n3o.swapper2&feature=nav_other
What do you think?
Cheers!
P.D:sorry for my bad english.
I think you are in the wrong section. There is a dedicated section for questions and not in the Development thread
What Low memory issue??? We have 1GB of RAM (almost) on the device! Everything works smooth on the phone!
maybe he wanna say that free memories are from 2xx~3xx mb only, which is actually less than S2 even S3 also has 1GB ram.
If the files can increase more free ram, it would be good for some heavy games and softwares to run more smoothly.
Wrong forum, but indeed I agree.
It's virtually impossible to run 2 heavy programs at once. One of them will always close when it's in the background, even if it implements a Service.
For example, Waze - It closes whenever I receive a phone call.
Just annoying. Problems I never had on S II
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Wrong forum, but indeed I agree.
It's virtually impossible to run 2 heavy programs at once. One of them will always close when it's in the background, even if it implements a Service.
For example, Waze - It closes whenever I receive a phone call.
Just annoying. Problems I never had on S II
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This is exactly that I mean.
Sorry for the mistake to put this topic in this subforum, please, any mod move it to the correct section.
Cheers!
Wow, I definitely want this! Kernel devs : please implement this!!!
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Swap will make the phone lag terribly since the ssd writing/reading speeds are far inferior to what you neel for normal operations.
It also makes sure the internal/external storage will not live very long.
While it's a good idea to combat memory issues, paging to disk is not suitable for normal situations.
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Haha we have not needed swap since the days of the HTC hero
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Swap will make the phone lag terribly since the ssd writing/reading speeds are far inferior to what you neel for normal operations.
It also makes sure the internal/external storage will not live very long.
While it's a good idea to combat memory issues, paging to disk is not suitable for normal situations.
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Swap file to internal SD: max speed 26MB/s I think there is not a problem, but I prefer more memory. And I tell that implement the function and optional you can enable it, if you don't want you don't need to enable.
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Can I ask you why you think you have low memory?
please select one of the following:
1) Phone going so slow it takes age to do anything I ask
2) Apps keep getting killed mid-use
3) I have looked at the numbers and they look low....
I can't choose any option. I want to explain:
-I open Internet Browser and open a Web with many videos, photos, etc, and browser closes itself.
-Open 1 game (NOVA3 for example), then put it on background to see a Web Page or check email... or open the Web browser, open 3 Webs then go to email to check, then go again to browser and all is closed, the phone needs to open all Webs again (in this case is your first option).
I think that you prefer a UNIX computer with 256MB of RAM than a UNIX computer with 16GB of RAM because you optimize the 256MB of RAM. I prefer waste memory (really don't waste it) because I want to RUN many programs at the same time.
Sorry for my very bad english, because I can't explain exactly what I want.
I'm SYSADMIN and I know what I say.
Cheers.
I understand where your coming from but I think you have failed to understand the purpose of multi-tasking on a phone (and the reason that not many phones have more than 1gb of ram yet).
Multi-tasking on a phone is designed to let you go from webpage to sms, or music to email etc, i.e. between smaller, less hungry apps.
Switching between a high ram usage game and other things is always going to be a problem, the phone was never designed to allow you to multi-task while gaming.
I know that this is a phone, not a Core I7 - 16GB RAM - SSD with Windows 7 Ultimate, but, Did you have a SGS2? with SGS2 you can make what you want and you don't have this problems off memory.
I said an example of a Web page with a lot of videos and photos that make Browser closed., not only with Games.
This is Why I want to try the Swap file. Off course if the phone goes slow down I'll prefer no Swap file, but I think that is a good idea.
Perhaps with a new firmware update Samsung solve this issue...
Cheers!
Off course if the phone goes slow down I'll prefer no Swap file, but I think that is a good idea.
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Have you ever had your Windows computer have to heavily page to disk (aka swap)? Even with my OCZ Vertex4 it's unbearable.
Just get rid of all the background apps (such as AllShare) that the S3 has running and you should be better off, it got rid of any hint of memory underrun I my had.
Get Houmiak TaskManager from market, find out which apps are running and freeze them in Titanium Backup. Problem solved
Lennyuk said:
I understand where your coming from but I think you have failed to understand the purpose of multi-tasking on a phone (and the reason that not many phones have more than 1gb of ram yet).
Multi-tasking on a phone is designed to let you go from webpage to sms, or music to email etc, i.e. between smaller, less hungry apps.
Switching between a high ram usage game and other things is always going to be a problem, the phone was never designed to allow you to multi-task while gaming.
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You are wrong.
This is my 4th Android phone.
Multitasking between several Applications which implement the Service Android Class should be possible without any of the services being killed.
I don't care about the Activity. I care about the service.
Example :
I run Torque & Waze at the same time and tend to skip between them.
If I receive an incoming call, they are both killed because of low memory.
How do I know? when I go back to either of them, the state is not kept, and waze even complains about not being stopped correctly.
Believe me I removed ANY resident useless services, uninstall about 30 system apps from wanam lite using titanium pro, and still, no good.
These things used to work on older phones like SGSII and Galaxy Note and even SGS I with stock samsung roms.
There is no reason SGS III should suffer regression in this department.
It is very easy to understand that while samsung have added plenty of "Cool" features to the phone, they have left us with an overwhelming amount of garbage. I want smart stay, I want usb OTG, I want the camera app, I want Touchwiz dialer and I want HDMI,
But not at the expense of basic use-cases.
Hell, on the Galaxy Note I was sometimes shocked at the amount of Activities left in the ram, I was impressed. Having 10 apps running in task manager. And no, I never closed them. I don't used task killers, and I don't care about "Free" ram.
I care about my Applications life cycle which sadly sucks on SGS III.
BTW, Galaxy Note had the same screen resolution give or take as the SGS III.
Something is terribly under optimized.
600MB used just by core crap.
PS. I am angry at samsung, not at you, apologies if I sound harsh.
It's also aggravating when posters here instantly assume other posters only care about Free ram. HERE - TAKE MY FREE RAM.
About the swap to sdcard, I'm not sure that is the solution.
But I am sure we need "A" solution.
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If anyone knows how I can understand exactly which process/app/apk/activiy/service is taking how much, I would happily compare it to Galaxy Note. I'm sure we will find basic applications taking too much.
If it's the GPU reserving too much memory, I am willing to settle for less GPU ram while not running games. Hell, the Galaxy Note was not that slower then SGS III
It even preserved me a lot of time which I now waste on Navigating multiple times with waze when it is closed because of a phone call.
Don't know if this has anything to with it as I haven't received my S3 yet. With the HTCOneX I had this problem as well. Then I found out, that in the
"settings".
in the "development section"
"Don't keep activities" which is unticked by default. One has to tick it ( I went on recent apps to make sure it would be saved) and then untick it again. Afterwards the HTC1X was quite cabable of multitasking. The default setting seems to have some hybrid impact and has to be set straight by hand.
Hopefully this helps your issue.
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You are wrong.
This is my 4th Android phone.
Multitasking between several Applications which implement the Service Android Class should be possible without any of the services being killed.
I don't care about the Activity. I care about the service.
Example :
I run Torque & Waze at the same time and tend to skip between them.
If I receive an incoming call, they are both killed because of low memory.
How do I know? when I go back to either of them, the state is not kept, and waze even complains about not being stopped correctly.
Believe me I removed ANY resident useless services, uninstall about 30 system apps from wanam lite using titanium pro, and still, no good.
These things used to work on older phones like SGSII and Galaxy Note and even SGS I with stock samsung roms.
There is no reason SGS III should suffer regression in this department.
It is very easy to understand that while samsung have added plenty of "Cool" features to the phone, they have left us with an overwhelming amount of garbage. I want smart stay, I want usb OTG, I want the camera app, I want Touchwiz dialer and I want HDMI,
But not at the expense of basic use-cases.
Hell, on the Galaxy Note I was sometimes shocked at the amount of Activities left in the ram, I was impressed. Having 10 apps running in task manager. And no, I never closed them. I don't used task killers, and I don't care about "Free" ram.
I care about my Applications life cycle which sadly sucks on SGS III.
BTW, Galaxy Note had the same screen resolution give or take as the SGS III.
Something is terribly under optimized.
600MB used just by core crap.
PS. I am angry at samsung, not at you, apologies if I sound harsh.
It's also aggravating when posters here instantly assume other posters only care about Free ram. HERE - TAKE MY FREE RAM.
About the swap to sdcard, I'm not sure that is the solution.
But I am sure we need "A" solution.
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If anyone knows how I can understand exactly which process/app/apk/activiy/service is taking how much, I would happily compare it to Galaxy Note. I'm sure we will find basic applications taking too much.
If it's the GPU reserving too much memory, I am willing to settle for less GPU ram while not running games. Hell, the Galaxy Note was not that slower then SGS III
It even preserved me a lot of time which I now waste on Navigating multiple times with waze when it is closed because of a phone call.
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I'm completely with you on this.. .. I have had both the original galaxy, the s 2 the note and other Android phones with this one being my first where larger apps are closing due to low memory resources. I had Nova, my browser, videos, music, angry birds and other processes in the background on my s2 with only388megs used out of 863.... this phone, I load the browser and everything in the background closes with 675megs used out of 754.... not cool. There must be some kinda solution.. why is it that my note and s 2 have 140 more free ram anyways?
ok i do not know why android sucks at multi tasking
on my IPOD4 i can run 100 applications with no lag
and on my SGS3 i can't run more then 20 apps (yes i have already tried supercharger and bestmultitask tweaks)
its even worst when the cache size gets more and more
i don't reboot my phone often
i like how ios makes a save point when you switch to another app which helps in multitasking many apps
can we have that thing on android too ?
or maybe android is meant to be like this ?
Sounds like a troll
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I dont know, but the only thing ive noticed is my benchmarks fell after I flashed the polish jb rom and rooted but not much difference performance wise
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I dont know, but the only thing ive noticed is my benchmarks fell after I flashed the polish jb rom and rooted but not much difference performance wise
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20 apps on my s3
100 apps on ios
thats a big difference for me
abelle_abelle said:
ok i do not know why android sucks at multi tasking
on my IPOD4 i can run 100 applications with no lag
and on my SGS3 i can't run more then 20 apps (yes i have already tried supercharger and bestmultitask tweaks)
its even worst when the cache size gets more and more
i don't reboot my phone often
i like how ios makes a save point when you switch to another app which helps in multitasking many apps
can we have that thing on android too ?
or maybe android is meant to be like this ?
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Probably because iOS doesn't use true multi-tasking? It takes a shot of the application and stores that, rather than keeping the application "alive" in the background like Android does.
wtf are you talking about, i have also an ipod touch 4g and having more than 3 apps running on "background" makes the device laggy as hell but that's to be expected when it only has 256mb of ram, and the fact that you have "100" apps appearing on the "multitasking" bottom bar, doesn't mean all of them are running, in fact you'll be lucky if only 3 of them are. Android does something similar but in a more realistic way, it keeps running the apps processes on background when you hit the home button, but if you have a lot of apps in this state it'll auto delete from memory some of the least important to keep ram free.
i've never experience lag on the galaxy s3 as much you state, with 1gb of ram that's unlikely to happen anyway.
abelle_abelle said:
ok i do not know why android sucks at multi tasking
on my IPOD4 i can run 100 applications with no lag
and on my SGS3 i can't run more then 20 apps (yes i have already tried supercharger and bestmultitask tweaks)
its even worst when the cache size gets more and more
i don't reboot my phone often
i like how ios makes a save point when you switch to another app which helps in multitasking many apps
can we have that thing on android too ?
or maybe android is meant to be like this ?
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Mate seriously, just get lost! You've come into an ANDROID and S3 forum and just basically called it ****! And worst of all, after all the rubbish about Samsung vs Apple, you have the audacity to compare the S3 which runs ANDROID to iOS....seriously?? Thread reported to moderator!
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There are loads of posts explaining this, this guy didn't even bother to search/read a bit. No point to reply, even.
If you like the icrap better, just stick to that.
Again, another useless thread.
1)iOS doesn't have true multitasking, it "pauses" the apps (LoL).
2)The S3 won't be able to multitask 20 apps, nor does the iPhone anyways. (even if it shows it is, in the taskmanager it will be closed and reloaded when you want to access it, (not multitasking).
3)I swear i saw a post like this before stating the same "100 apps", troll?
Go buy yourself an icrap.
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abelle_abelle said:
ok i do not know why android sucks at multi tasking
on my IPOD4 i can run 100 applications with no lag
and on my SGS3 i can't run more then 20 apps (yes i have already tried supercharger and bestmultitask tweaks)
its even worst when the cache size gets more and more
i don't reboot my phone often
i like how ios makes a save point when you switch to another app which helps in multitasking many apps
can we have that thing on android too ?
or maybe android is meant to be like this ?
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Because iOS puts Applications into suspended mode (with 10 minute limit on background data activity.) After which iOS forcefully terminates the application in question. What does this mean? It means the majority of your "100" apps that are listed on the double tap line is inactive/closed. That bar isn't the multitasking bar, but a 'recently opened' application bar.
You'd be hard pressed to find 3-4 apps open concurrently at the same time and working completely on iOS. While iOS certainly does NOT have true multitasking like Android does (running actual concurrent applications without being in 'low-power/suspend mode'), it doesn't mean it's worse than Android. It's just different philosophy to Mobile OS design... But I think it does pose a question, does that 'Recently Opened' app bar really serve to nothing else but fool ignorant users (you, in this case) into thinking iOS multi-tasks much more than it actually does?
The original poster might be on to something.. I when I was using a Palm Treo I noticed it was wickedly fast at multitasking, but whenever I use an Apple running IOS things seem to get bogged down. Perhaps Apple needs to use better CPU or operating system.
Lol. 100 apps? I think those are just recently opened apps. Those are not running..
lol take a chill pill
is there a way to do that on android like ios pause apps so that i can multitask more apps ??
Fair question. What's the point of burning up CPU cycles (and hence battery) needlessly ?
abelle_abelle said:
lol take a chill pill
is there a way to do that on android like ios pause apps so that i can multitask more apps ??
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Apparently you have a problem understanding the concept of multi-tasking.
http://www.extremetech.com/computing/112013-how-multitasking-works-on-android-and-ios
Educate yourself and then ask less foolish questions.
Rado_vr6 said:
Sounds like a troll
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You sound right http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1949513
adamkhanmian said:
I dont know, but the only thing ive noticed is my benchmarks fell after I flashed the polish jb rom and rooted but not much difference performance wise
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Noob style! You really don't know SEVERAL key things about Android. Specially that none of the benchmark apps benefit from the S III's quad core.
You get a V12 Ferrari and try to benchmark it's engine on rocky, icy or muddy terrain, you'll come to the conclusion that it's a crappy car. Is the test the problem or the car the problem?
See, for each kind of car there are kinds of tests that are more suitable for it. You don't make a rally car undergo tests that are more suitable for a track car, and vice versa.
Forget about benchmarking the S III with the current apps.
The Polish ROM was the first JB, ROM and dozens of users reported that it was buggy and crappy. Much more evolved ROMs have been released, specially the unbranded UK ROM (CSC = BTU). If you're still using the Polish ROM, then you're a noob and haven't followed through the users remarks on it.
Android's JB multitasking is years ahead of anything apple has.
Hi
Just im looking for advice
i have I9300 , but i'm looking to replace it with i9305 for Extra Ram
but the Rom and support for I9300 is more better
So what do u advice me ?!
Thanks
It's your decision. You want cutting edge ROMs - get the i9300, you want the extra RAM - get the i9305
Glebun said:
It's your decision. You want cutting edge ROMs - get the i9300, you want the extra RAM - get the i9305
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So what do u think
better ram
or better rom support ?
Depends on what you need.
As for me, I might've chosen the i9305, but I also might've regretted it because of the lack of JKay and Domination
I guess you're not having any performance problems but the amount of available ram seems small. I do think about it too but I sure you if everything is working good don't worry about the free ram. I did try few roms and some was worked with around 400 mb of free ram somehow but believe me they was with bad performance than other roms that shows me under 200 mb free of ram. So it seems that is pointless to even worry of the amount of free ram. Free for what? Let it use however it needs at enjoy of your rocket. Multitasking get troubles if this ram is reserved for just showing us. I see some video comparisons of the two models and quad core was better in them as I remember. If apps are not crashing as is on my phone I think is good for you to keep I9300. I had a dual core I9100 with 1gb of ram but it was overheating all the time I played harder games. What if the processor of phone you want to buy get overheat with it's 2 gb ram memory. Maybe the amount of ram will not helping so much. While I play the harder games with my phone now, the free ram is under 100 mb but no matter my phone never get hot as my old Galaxy S2. I think quad core processor is the reason. Stronger processor is better I think than bigger ram memory. If you actually haven't problems of course.
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Listen, the bottom line is only you can decide....you obviously know the specs, the developer support situation.....so why even ask this?
slaphead20 said:
Listen, the bottom line is only you can decide....you obviously know the specs, the developer support situation.....so why even ask this?
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just im Afraid the performance will be same then i lose the nice rom support
and some time im telling my self maybe after some time a new cooker will support I9305
and you can enjoy both
do you really think 2G RAM and 1G RAM can make that much difference?
i mean , why do you need so much RAM ?
i had been a same situation once before in similar.
i bought a laptop year ago come with 4G RAM , i just didn't know what i was thinking , i bought an extra Memory , (4GB , 50 euros) to make dual-channel, and plug in , initial up
okay, i didn't see any , not even a little bit of performance improvement although some benchmark software indicates something like 3% - 5% performance up.
but it is not humanly recognizable...
actually i can change my mobile with i9305 on free
I think i'd take the i9005
The original one just doesnt have enough ram..
Apps keep reloading. No proper multitasking. Its like im using an iphone..
But still, keep your phone and wait for the S4 is my advice.
Glebun said:
Depends on what you need.
As for me, I might've chosen the i9305, but I also might've regretted it because of the lack of JKay and Domination
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That's rubbish. I have the the i9305 and I'm currently running latest Jkay and I've had the latest Domination theme, I've also had Alexander theme. I'm now running the latest Motomoto theme..
In my honest opinion the i9305 is 10x better than the i9300. I have both and can honestly say that the 2gb RAM in the i9305 makes a huge difference. I find the i9300 is a pain to use. The i9305 is AWESOME! It keeps apps in memory for ages, I can be playing Vice City and come back to it 2 days later and it's still there exactly where I left it.
It feels snappier than my i9300 too, I guess this is because all the apps are stored in memory so need need to load or redraw anything.
The i9305 is how Samsung should of made the i9300. If you traded you definitely wouldn't have any regrets.
The i9305 is a beast!
Here's a few of screen shots from my i9305
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ylbniu5i964sax2/Screenshot_2013-02-07-13-41-57.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/gmmfnhuvuovzji1/Screenshot_2013-02-07-13-48-58.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0eteo1fpaqwjzbo/Screenshot_2013-02-07-13-42-22.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/za5m7vq2vaops8q/Screenshot_2013-02-07-13-43-09.png
Don't forget the i9305 has 4G LTE (if your carrier supports it). Get great speeds with it.
Obagleyfreer said:
That's rubbish. I have the the i9305 and I'm currently running latest Jkay and I've had the latest Domination theme, I've also had Alexander theme. I'm now running the latest Motomoto theme..
In my honest opinion the i9305 is 10x better than the i9300. I have both and can honestly say that the 2gb RAM in the i9305 makes a huge difference. I find the i9300 is a pain to use. The i9305 is AWESOME! It keeps apps in memory for ages, I can be playing Vice City and come back to it 2 days later and it's still there exactly where I left it.
It feels snappier than my i9300 too, I guess this is because all the apps are stored in memory so need need to load or redraw anything.
The i9305 is how Samsung should of made the i9300. If you traded you definitely wouldn't have any regrets.
The i9305 is a beast!
Here's a few of screen shots from my i9305
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ylbniu5i964sax2/Screenshot_2013-02-07-13-41-57.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/gmmfnhuvuovzji1/Screenshot_2013-02-07-13-48-58.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0eteo1fpaqwjzbo/Screenshot_2013-02-07-13-42-22.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/za5m7vq2vaops8q/Screenshot_2013-02-07-13-43-09.png
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Thanks alot
i will go through ur advice . as i believe more support will come to i19305
so let me get 4G and Extra Ram like not2 :good:
but can you help me with link of root !
and should i use same Theme Motomoto file that i have
or there is a special one for i9305
Thanking u
syl0n said:
Don't forget the i9305 has 4G LTE (if your carrier supports it). Get great speeds with it.
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Thanks for ur advice
And thanks All
really you help me Alot
appreciate that
As long as you make sure you only flash things from the I9305 threads, you'll be fine.
For rooting just go the Dev I9305 forum and look at a thread called "what to do when you first get your I9305" or something like that. It has everything you need.
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Didn't know that i9305 supports Domination and JKay, that's cool.
But don't expect the amount of development to change, there are new hot devices coming out soon, and the devs' attention will shift from the S3
Glebun said:
Didn't know that i9305 supports Domination and JKay, that's cool.
But don't expect the amount of development to change, there are new hot devices coming out soon, and the devs' attention will shift from the S3
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I got the mobile now
This is my first post fr it.heheheh
But what is mean of support domination and jkay ?
Thanks
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Okay congrats! Can you share your opinion now, do you feel any difference or is same? And what about the temperature while playing games. I am not going to replace my phone but I still wonder - ram memory or processor is more important for performance.
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ayydin said:
Okay congrats! Can you share your opinion now, do you feel any difference or is same? And what about the temperature while playing games. I am not going to replace my phone but I still wonder - ram memory or processor is more important for performance.
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sure you will touch improvement in performance cause of the ram . special i was facing a problem with my s3-i9300
when the ram become below 100 MB . and u be forced to run to use task killer to increase it
now i feel safe because the ram always up 1000 MB :good:
and sure that reflect on maltitask . no more lag when im opening many heavy program . u won't feel that some program work in background as before
and after install Motomoto thems i feel great
boot animation , and some mods programs is not working
in General i feel happy to convert to i9305 for now ....hehehe
but i will miss the Great OMEGA rom
my advice to any one thinking to sell his mobile (i9300) to get i9305
better to wait and get S4
for me the deal with on free with out pay extra money
Thank for all who share information
Ok, we got 2 gb ram now but often barely have more available than the s3
That's bs to suck it up with bloatware we never use or open.
Alan.. Sent with Galaxy S4
I seem to remember the S3 having 2GB of ram too, also used up by the OS.
You must have had the international version... Only 1gb in the US.
I should never have to manually free up ram when I gave 2gb.
I suppose when we get 4gb, they will eat that up too?
My phone is not their private platform for running spam software... If so, the phones should be free.
Alan.. Sent with Galaxy S4
As the phones become more powerful with even faster cpus and more ram, I'm sure they will find more bloatware to suck it up
Sent from my rooted S4 blessed with Cleanrom 1.2
Before I moved to CM, I never had RAM issues. The most I ever saw used was 1.2, and that was only once. Most of the time, my phone sat around 800-900 MB in use.
Also, bloat aside, Linux has a habit of filling and using all available RAM, but in an efficient way. You can't look at your Android phone the same way you look at a Windows PC. Low available RAM isn't definitely a problem, because a lot of that may be idle.
SonicJoe said:
Before I moved to CM, I never had RAM issues. The most I ever saw used was 1.2, and that was only once. Most of the time, my phone sat around 800-900 MB in use.
Also, bloat aside, Linux has a habit of filling and using all available RAM, but in an efficient way. You can't look at your Android phone the same way you look at a Windows PC. Low available RAM isn't definitely a problem, because a lot of that may be idle.
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Exactly. Android will use the RAM it has to work with. "Full RAM" being detrimental to performamce hasn't been an issue since froyo.
More RAM meens more apps can be kept cached for fast opening... Consuming neither CPU cycles nor battery.
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I agree with all that, however when using the phone intensively bouncing in and out if several apps and videos etc... The android system seems it likes to hold on to non used programs too long rather than realizing ram is getting short and shutting them down.
With casual "take your time" use its great, but when getting intense it's not.
Does android look at idle time of an app before shutting it down, or does it look at resources?
To me, it doesn't seem like it handle the latter very well.
Alan.. Sent with Galaxy S4
If you find that its actually detrimental, then try raising your minfree value. But like others have said, with linux based systems (like android) "full" ram means an efficient system.
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windstrings said:
You must have had the international version... Only 1gb in the US.
I should never have to manually free up ram when I gave 2gb.
I suppose when we get 4gb, they will eat that up too?
My phone is not their private platform for running spam software... If so, the phones should be free.
Alan.. Sent with Galaxy S4
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Are you talking about the s3 only having 1gb ram? Us versions had 2gb...same with the s4.
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chrishoyt2012 said:
Are you talking about the s3 only having 1gb ram? Us versions had 2gb...same with the s4.
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I stand corrected you're right I had it backwards, I guess I'm updating to fast to keep up with what I have. I just got my S4 and I'm already looking towards the note 3 I hope it has more RAM.
I'm certainly not an expert on Android system and yes I've been in Windows since version 3.0.
I guess it is what it is. I have an app called clean Master, it sounds like you guys don't believe in those programs? It alerts me when it has a gig of ram that can be freed up . So you are saying it's better leave those apps open in RAM so it takes less time to activate them when opening?
I somehow have more faith in free RAM then I do and having 50 apps on standby.
Historically Android is not absolutely efficient and RAM is.
When I moved from one gig of ram to 2 gigs of ram I noticed a notable difference in the smoothness and quickness of the phone, yes the processor was faster too but it felt like the RAM was the ticket
Alan.. Sent with Galaxy S4
This looks encouraging.
http://drippler.com/updates/share/new-galaxy-s4-software-update-brings-hdr-video-more-storage Via j.mp/getDrippler
Alan.. Sent with Galaxy S4
windstrings said:
This looks encouraging.
http://drippler.com/updates/share/new-galaxy-s4-software-update-brings-hdr-video-more-storage Via j.mp/getDrippler
Alan.. Sent with Galaxy S4
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And has nothing to do with what you are complaining about. The update will allow apps to be moved to external storage (sdcard).
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Hold the home button down and close down some programs. When I do that it only use 830-900mb of ram up.that leaves plenty for apps and web pages.
And I'm running stock everything really... I value the reliability and consistency for now because I use my phone for my job lol
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