Ok, we got 2 gb ram now but often barely have more available than the s3
That's bs to suck it up with bloatware we never use or open.
Alan.. Sent with Galaxy S4
I seem to remember the S3 having 2GB of ram too, also used up by the OS.
You must have had the international version... Only 1gb in the US.
I should never have to manually free up ram when I gave 2gb.
I suppose when we get 4gb, they will eat that up too?
My phone is not their private platform for running spam software... If so, the phones should be free.
Alan.. Sent with Galaxy S4
As the phones become more powerful with even faster cpus and more ram, I'm sure they will find more bloatware to suck it up
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Before I moved to CM, I never had RAM issues. The most I ever saw used was 1.2, and that was only once. Most of the time, my phone sat around 800-900 MB in use.
Also, bloat aside, Linux has a habit of filling and using all available RAM, but in an efficient way. You can't look at your Android phone the same way you look at a Windows PC. Low available RAM isn't definitely a problem, because a lot of that may be idle.
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Before I moved to CM, I never had RAM issues. The most I ever saw used was 1.2, and that was only once. Most of the time, my phone sat around 800-900 MB in use.
Also, bloat aside, Linux has a habit of filling and using all available RAM, but in an efficient way. You can't look at your Android phone the same way you look at a Windows PC. Low available RAM isn't definitely a problem, because a lot of that may be idle.
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Exactly. Android will use the RAM it has to work with. "Full RAM" being detrimental to performamce hasn't been an issue since froyo.
More RAM meens more apps can be kept cached for fast opening... Consuming neither CPU cycles nor battery.
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I agree with all that, however when using the phone intensively bouncing in and out if several apps and videos etc... The android system seems it likes to hold on to non used programs too long rather than realizing ram is getting short and shutting them down.
With casual "take your time" use its great, but when getting intense it's not.
Does android look at idle time of an app before shutting it down, or does it look at resources?
To me, it doesn't seem like it handle the latter very well.
Alan.. Sent with Galaxy S4
If you find that its actually detrimental, then try raising your minfree value. But like others have said, with linux based systems (like android) "full" ram means an efficient system.
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windstrings said:
You must have had the international version... Only 1gb in the US.
I should never have to manually free up ram when I gave 2gb.
I suppose when we get 4gb, they will eat that up too?
My phone is not their private platform for running spam software... If so, the phones should be free.
Alan.. Sent with Galaxy S4
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Are you talking about the s3 only having 1gb ram? Us versions had 2gb...same with the s4.
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Are you talking about the s3 only having 1gb ram? Us versions had 2gb...same with the s4.
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I stand corrected you're right I had it backwards, I guess I'm updating to fast to keep up with what I have. I just got my S4 and I'm already looking towards the note 3 I hope it has more RAM.
I'm certainly not an expert on Android system and yes I've been in Windows since version 3.0.
I guess it is what it is. I have an app called clean Master, it sounds like you guys don't believe in those programs? It alerts me when it has a gig of ram that can be freed up . So you are saying it's better leave those apps open in RAM so it takes less time to activate them when opening?
I somehow have more faith in free RAM then I do and having 50 apps on standby.
Historically Android is not absolutely efficient and RAM is.
When I moved from one gig of ram to 2 gigs of ram I noticed a notable difference in the smoothness and quickness of the phone, yes the processor was faster too but it felt like the RAM was the ticket
Alan.. Sent with Galaxy S4
This looks encouraging.
http://drippler.com/updates/share/new-galaxy-s4-software-update-brings-hdr-video-more-storage Via j.mp/getDrippler
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This looks encouraging.
http://drippler.com/updates/share/new-galaxy-s4-software-update-brings-hdr-video-more-storage Via j.mp/getDrippler
Alan.. Sent with Galaxy S4
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And has nothing to do with what you are complaining about. The update will allow apps to be moved to external storage (sdcard).
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Hold the home button down and close down some programs. When I do that it only use 830-900mb of ram up.that leaves plenty for apps and web pages.
And I'm running stock everything really... I value the reliability and consistency for now because I use my phone for my job lol
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I noticed while I was using the supercharger script that it recommended to use option 8 which is 768hp and not option 9 1000hp. I've read some threads before about people asking why in the task manager it only shows we have 733mb of ram on the phone and that its supposed to have 1gb. I know the system takes up a lot of ram and that's why it shows that. So my question is, does touch wiz use up that much ram? I thought tw was a "light" overlay. I remember when I had a rezound the recommendation for the supercharger script was 1000hp. Sense is supposed to be a "heavy" overlay right? Could it actually be lighter than tw? When I had an inspire it said to use 768hp, the same as now with the Note. But the inspire is "last year's" tech. I would expect the Note to be up there with the Rezound. Maybe this is why we are seeing lag sometimes? ICS seems worse in the ram usage department (600-something in the task manager). It just seems to me that the system is using up an incredible amount of resources that I haven't seen happen on other phones even with sense on them. Whenever I use the script and it recommends 768 it makes me think something is wrong and that's why we have the lag that we do. Thoughts?
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I noticed while I was using the supercharger script that it recommended to use option 8 which is 768hp and not option 9 1000hp. I've read some threads before about people asking why in the task manager it only shows we have 733mb of ram on the phone and that its supposed to have 1gb. I know the system takes up a lot of ram and that's why it shows that. So my question is, does touch wiz use up that much ram? I thought tw was a "light" overlay. I remember when I had a rezound the recommendation for the supercharger script was 1000hp. Sense is supposed to be a "heavy" overlay right? Could it actually be lighter than tw? When I had an inspire it said to use 768hp, the same as now with the Note. But the inspire is "last year's" tech. I would expect the Note to be up there with the Rezound. Maybe this is why we are seeing lag sometimes? ICS seems worse in the ram usage department (600-something in the task manager). It just seems to me that the system is using up an incredible amount of resources that I haven't seen happen on other phones even with sense on them. Whenever I use the script and it recommends 768 it makes me think something is wrong and that's why we have the lag that we do. Thoughts?
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I have the same question.
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My wifes samsung galaxy s2 shows 832mb that's weird?....ours is lower?....good question ?
I heard the same that touch wiz was the lightest... I haven't really messed with my note just yet, but that is a good question hopefully someone has the answer...
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Free ram is wasted ram.
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no, touchwiz doesnt use up all that portion of ram. these reserved memory, as u mentioned already, is reserved for the system. for instance, your graphical display and other devices etc
i know nothing about the supercharger script, coz i don use that, but i can tell u touchwiz does eat more memory than other launchers. on the other hand, the huge memory usage in the galaxy note or android 2.3+ (esp 4.0+) devices is a result of the tasks triggered by the system like google mail service and the like, and thus slower operations due to limited free memory availability
may be i didnt get to the point, but hope this helps u understand more
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I noticed while I was using the supercharger script that it recommended to use option 8 which is 768hp and not option 9 1000hp. I've read some threads before about people asking why in the task manager it only shows we have 733mb of ram on the phone and that its supposed to have 1gb. I know the system takes up a lot of ram and that's why it shows that. So my question is, does touch wiz use up that much ram? I thought tw was a "light" overlay. I remember when I had a rezound the recommendation for the supercharger script was 1000hp. Sense is supposed to be a "heavy" overlay right? Could it actually be lighter than tw? When I had an inspire it said to use 768hp, the same as now with the Note. But the inspire is "last year's" tech. I would expect the Note to be up there with the Rezound. Maybe this is why we are seeing lag sometimes? ICS seems worse in the ram usage department (600-something in the task manager). It just seems to me that the system is using up an incredible amount of resources that I haven't seen happen on other phones even with sense on them. Whenever I use the script and it recommends 768 it makes me think something is wrong and that's why we have the lag that we do. Thoughts?
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Our phones do have extra features that those phones do not. I have no idea if this is right or not, but maybe the extra RAM usage comes from the system needing to recognize when we are using the S Pen at any given time. That would explain the difference between GSII and Note.
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Our phones do have extra features that those phones do not. I have no idea if this is right or not, but maybe the extra RAM usage comes from the system needing to recognize when we are using the S Pen at any given time. That would explain the difference between GSII and Note.
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This has always been my thought on the subject as well.
Ics uses more memory than GB. Thats why its only 624 mb of Ram free not to mention the S pen configuration loaded into the OS.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
SKyRocKeting727 said:
Ics uses more memory than GB. Thats why its only 624 mb of Ram free not to mention the S pen configuration loaded into the OS.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
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We're trying to understand why that is like that on our phone and not other newer phones
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I think its because the Note uses the Tablet platform. Certain apps and programs run in tablet mode automatically. Then again, im just taking a stab at the dark.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
SKyRocKeting727 said:
I think its because the Note uses the Tablet platform. Certain apps and programs run in tablet mode automatically. Then again, im just taking a stab at the dark.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
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I see what you're saying
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Actually, I cant find the post right now but a developer has already explained that the 250 MB that you are not seeing (750+250 = 1GB) is shared video memory being utilized by the GPU.
The resolution on the Note is significantly higher than most which is why it needs 250 MB dedicated for video alone.
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Actually, I cant find the post right now but a developer has already explained that the 250 MB that you are not seeing (750+250 = 1GB) is shared video memory being utilized by the GPU.
The resolution on the Note is significantly higher than most which is why it needs 250 MB dedicated for video alone.
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^ this...it works just like cheap laptops that don't have a dedicated video card. Some of the RAM is "stolen" and allocated towards VRAM.
I think we have our answers. Thanks guys for the posts.
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I had tried two ICS roms so far as we lose over 100mb in useable ram going from gingerbread to ice cream sandwich. Just wondering if all of the ICS roms are like that or not?
Any idea why we lose 100mb? I'd really like to have it back
It seems like that RAM is being allocated to integrated graphics and I did notice this across the board between dagr8's and smartguys port of team perfection ROMS.
Subscribed for more information, good question if we can change allocation.
Of course all of the ics roms will have the same amount of usable ram. They all use the same kernel, the stock kernel in the leak, cause without source it's pretty much going to stay that way.
I don't get the obsession with usable ram... It's Android, free ram is wasted ram. Stop worrying and let the lmk do its job.
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Of course all of the ics roms will have the same amount of usable ram. They all use the same kernel, the stock kernel in the leak, cause without source it's pretty much going to stay that way.
I don't get the obsession with usable ram... It's Android, free ram is wasted ram. Stop worrying and let the lmk do its job.
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There's this misconception that used RAM = slower, laggier performance and that also is not the case.
People need to check their Windows PC conceptualization of RAM usage at the door.
-Ryan
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Of course all of the ics roms will have the same amount of usable ram. They all use the same kernel, the stock kernel in the leak, cause without source it's pretty much going to stay that way.
I don't get the obsession with usable ram... It's Android, free ram is wasted ram. Stop worrying and let the lmk do its job.
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you are correct. Samsung dedicated more ram to the video card, which is probably to fix the black crush and gradient issues that are in the stock rom. Apparently the video ram allocated in gingerbread cant drive this monstrous display like they thought.
it does suck losing it, because its just that much less left for multitasking, but it fixed the display issues so its a good trade off for me.
also, this issue is not in android devices with tegra 3. With tegra 3 the video card has dedicated video ram, meaning that a 1gb android device shows 1 gb of total ram since its not shared with the video card. This is great because it means better multitasking because more apps stay in memory.
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Of course all of the ics roms will have the same amount of usable ram. They all use the same kernel, the stock kernel in the leak, cause without source it's pretty much going to stay that way.
I don't get the obsession with usable ram... It's Android, free ram is wasted ram. Stop worrying and let the lmk do its job.
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The obsession with usable ram is smoothness, it makes a difference, if it didn't why aren't we still all using 512mb phones?
Once the ram is filled up swapping has to occur, when this happens cpu cycles and flash read/write cycles are introduced and they slow down your experience..
Losing 100mb of ram is a big deal, its over 33% of available ram for me. And it does effect performance unfortunately.
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There's this misconception that used RAM = slower, laggier performance and that also is not the case.
People need to check their Windows PC conceptualization of RAM usage at the door.
-Ryan
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It feel totally makes a difference, I have been complaining about this issue for the longest and all I hear is that it doesn't do anything to our phone. If it doesn't do anything why do I keep getting a message that states that I have no more ram and that it will close everything to free up ram. This is one thing that I really don't like about Android, I sure hope that this changes in the future, because no matter how much ram is installed on our phone we will always have an issue because we cant control what apps we can fully close..
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The obsession with usable ram is smoothness, it makes a difference, if it didn't why aren't we still all using 512mb phones?
Once the ram is filled up swapping has to occur, when this happens cpu cycles and flash read/write cycles are introduced and they slow down your experience..
Losing 100mb of ram is a big deal, its over 33% of available ram for me. And it does effect performance unfortunately.
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100=1000/3? You might want to double check that one.
No matter how many tabs I open in chrome, along with beautiful widgets and Facebook, 2 email accounting syncing and Engadget, joystick, reddit and XDA apps running I never take a performance hit.
My advice is to spend less time running quadrant, your rams are being out to good use.
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100=1000/3? You might want to double check that one.
No matter how many tabs I open in chrome, along with beautiful widgets and Facebook, 2 email accounting syncing and Engadget, joystick, reddit and XDA apps running I never take a performance hit.
My advice is to spend less time running quadrant, your rams are being out to good use.
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I think he meant 1/3 of free ram. Typically a stock gingerbread from had 320-350mb free ram.
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I think he meant 1/3 of free ram. Typically a stock gingerbread from had 320-350mb free ram.
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Correct.. I lost 100mb or so of free ram, which forces the phone to swap more often. If we lost it to help the video card then that's fine, I just wanted to make sure it wasn't something else.
Maybe with an official build of ICS the sluggishness will be better...
Interesting point here... I saw a screen shot of an international Note on ICS and the max free RAM was at 803 MB. Maybe its just an issue with our ics leak that we have so little free RAM?
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Been doing some testing on this. It appears that limiting the background applications to three returns the free memory back to gb levels. Been testing this all day with my objection rom, and my used memory has not gone above 472 used with 3 background applications running. That leaves plenty of room to run my games in the forground or office applications. Phone has been running smooth and with out error.
In objection rom to limit the back ground applications. Settings /development options / limit back ground process.
Also been looking at my wife's nexus with non rooted ics. Her phone shows 728 Meg of available ram. Not sure why our leaked version is showing only 656.
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Thanks! after reading this post...I went into the ICS settings on Unofficial ROM and set the settings to 3 background and kill apps on exit..it improved A LOTTTTT....Ive been lurking a long time and this is the best advice I have read!
There are a few droids released this year with 2 gigs of RAM like the US/JP S3,optimus G,padfone 2 and google's own nexus 4.But is it really necessary ? or is it just for marketing like it is the case with 1080P(440ppi) screens ? As far as I know,you can open around 20 apps on an android phone with 1 gig of RAM.Who would open more than that ? I personally only run 6 apps max in the same time,opening more(like I actually need to) would just result in more battery drainage.Some people say that android apps will need more RAM in the next couple of years but I don't think this would be the case.Apps should be encoded well to actually become LIGHTER not HEAVIER.What do you guys think ?
2gb would help me run a GNU/Linux inside a chroot.
Madarox said:
Apps should be encoded well to actually become LIGHTER not HEAVIER.
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I bet it won't happen.
Once I downloaded a simple 3D Rally game, and it used 320 MB RAM. I only have 410 MB left after the phone booted, so it would be nice to have more.
Madarox said:
There are a few droids released this year with 2 gigs of RAM like the US/JP S3,optimus G,padfone 2 and google's own nexus 4.But is it really necessary ? or is it just for marketing like it is the case with 1080P(440ppi) screens ? As far as I know,you can open around 20 apps on an android phone with 1 gig of RAM.Who would open more than that ? I personally only run 6 apps max in the same time,opening more(like I actually need to) would just result in more battery drainage.Some people say that android apps will need more RAM in the next couple of years but I don't think this would be the case.Apps should be encoded well to actually become LIGHTER not HEAVIER.What do you guys think ?
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I agree that it would be great if apps started getting lighter. It's kinda irritating that Android as a whole kinda seems to be getting more boated lately too. Just because the technology and hardware exists (such as 2 gigs of ram or quad core cpus) is no excuse for bloated coding and programs IMO.
Android is Linux based. Unlike a PC OS like windows, it uses as much RAM as it can. Its built that way. Example: Facebook, Twitter, browser, XDA app running. If you have say 200MB free, android will give more to the apps that are being used. So if browser is just sitting there idle, Facebook and Twitter which are realtime, would get more RAM for better performance. 2GB RAM would be so much better and honestly I would love to have more than that. Closer to 4GB just to have fun with. And maybe I'm crazy, but I just like the idea of it.
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Well nowaday it seems that more is better than less so... why not? in the future maybe 4gb ram is standard for smartphone like dual-core cpu is a standard for a medium smartphones right now. I mean that belong to the future so for now more ram more speed more storage less money is better for me ^^
At present it might not matter but........ eventually it'll needed it.
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Eventually I think it will be standard to have at least 1.5GB ram and a 1.5ghz processor and maybe 16GB internal storage.
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danishprakash said:
At present it might not matter but........ eventually it'll needed it.
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Eventually I think it will be standard to have at least 1.5GB ram and a 1.5ghz processor and maybe 16GB internal storage.
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I still don't see why android would need more than 1GB of RAM in the coming years.If 2gb of RAM would be a necessity for the OS to run properly then I assume google would stop updating the nexus S[512MB RAM],galaxy nexus and nexus 7 [both 1GB RAM] a year from now.If apps would need them,then mid-range phones with 1GB RAM or less wouldn't operate properly.
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Android is Linux based. Unlike a PC OS like windows, it uses as much RAM as it can. Its built that way. Example: Facebook, Twitter, browser, XDA app running. If you have say 200MB free, android will give more to the apps that are being used. So if browser is just sitting there idle, Facebook and Twitter which are realtime, would get more RAM for better performance. 2GB RAM would be so much better and honestly I would love to have more than that. Closer to 4GB just to have fun with. And maybe I'm crazy, but I just like the idea of it.
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Except that these apps don't actually need the RAM,lol.Maybe only the browser if you have 5+ tabs opened.
Browser uses about 150MB somehow for me with one tab open.
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The os dosnt need this much. However the more ram the more apps can be kept running thus better multitasking.
This is the case with most computers there will always be those high end specs that few really need but it some what future proofs for a few years
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Relax... having more ram is just like having more money in your pocket... and it's not like u gonna use all of the money in your pocket at the same time anyway, has to save some left for something "unexpected" to happen right? and if google stop supporting Nexus S so what? we still have a lot of devs always ready to make a cook rom for it (and personally i like cook rom more).
I'ts not the end of the world if we have more ram
Hi all,
Ok so I've got this phone a week ago, and I like it so far. Ieike the beautiful screen and the great battery life. I gave my galaxy S2 to my wife.
However, this phone has a serious issue and I am really surprised that it is not floating all over XDA: It is the RAM.
I used to install more than 120 applications on my s2. Despite that I had about 200 to 300MB of free RAM.
As a common sense, I did the same on my s3, but I ended up with around 80 to 100 mb of free RAM. I WAS SHOCKED
I tried to be more scientific so I did more investigation on this issue:
Both all phones are rooted , both running on custom ROM.
S2 on 4.1.2 XXLSJ ROM with stock Kernel. No system apps are removed. Has all bloatware.
S3 on 4.1.2 XXEMA2 ROM with stock Kernel however it is approximately completely cleaned from bloatware like ALL share , all widgets that I don't use, kies, Samsung apps, and every other irrelevant stuff.
After closing all recent/ running apps , I got In Running services :
S2 506MB RAM used / 321 MB RAM free
S3 759MB RAM used / 74MB RAM free
To get more info, I installed an application Called android status from market. It didn't show anything abnormal.
As you can see in the attached screenshots, while the running services are approximately the same, the cached processes are a lot more on the S2 since it's still bloated But still despite all that the S2 has much more free RAM!!!!
This issue is driving me crazy!!
What could be the culprit !!!?
Can anybody please enlighten me!?
Thanks
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Linux is not windows, free ram=wasted ram
The ram management is poor on S3 and multitasking is crippled.
From launcher redraws to phone and contact lag.. Everything is caused by it
There's no solution but only workarounds.
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been discussed to death, search the other multiple threads for an answer
Life Engineer said:
Hi all,
Ok so I've got this phone a week ago, and I like it so far. Ieike the beautiful screen and the great battery life. I gave my galaxy S2 to my wife.
However, this phone has a serious issue and I am really surprised that it is not floating all over XDA: It is the RAM.
I used to install more than 120 applications on my s2. Despite that I had about 200 to 300MB of free RAM.
As a common sense, I did the same on my s3, but I ended up with around 80 to 100 mb of free RAM. I WAS SHOCKED
I tried to be more scientific so I did more investigation on this issue:
Both all phones are rooted , both running on custom ROM.
S2 on 4.1.2 XXLSJ ROM with stock Kernel. No system apps are removed. Has all bloatware.
S3 on 4.1.2 XXEMA2 ROM with stock Kernel however it is approximately completely cleaned from bloatware like ALL share , all widgets that I don't use, kies, Samsung apps, and every other irrelevant stuff.
After closing all recent/ running apps , I got In Running services :
S2 506MB RAM used / 321 MB RAM free
S3 759MB RAM used / 74MB RAM free
To get more info, I installed an application Called android status from market. It didn't show anything abnormal.
As you can see in the attached screenshots, while the running services are approximately the same, the cached processes are a lot more on the S2 since it's still bloated But still despite all that the S2 has much more free RAM!!!!
This issue is driving me crazy!!
What could be the culprit !!!?
Can anybody please enlighten me!?
Thanks
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Hi
I had the same issue
HTC Desire HD (768MB RAM) - Custom ROM - Always 150-200MB free RAM
S3 i9300 (1GB RAM) - Stock ROM (cleaned, lots of services stopped etc) 100MB or less free RAM
S3 LTE i9305 (2GB RAM) - Stock ROM (cleaned, lots of services stopped etc) 600-500MB free RAM
On my Desire HD never had luancher redraws, dialer, messaing app dropping from memory but was a issue on the S3, I think its an issue with higher resolution screens and software not optimized properly (memory management).
I have seen a fair few Xperia T devices which also have 1GB RAM but they seem to have 200-300MB free RAM.
I have the S3 LTE (i9305) now and RAM usage is always above 1GB, generally around 1.1/1.2 GB.
Maybe it's just Samsung software.
Thanks
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Sorry to tell you but that's not true!
I can multitask easily on my S2 but I cant on my S3!! We can't just give some arguments just to convince ourselves!
I can open up to 5 apps and seamlessly switch between them while I can't do the same on my s3! It reopens the app!
Damn I'm really depressed by this sh*t! It should have been 2 RAMs!
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been discussed to death, search the other multiple threads for an answer
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Please guide me Mr. consider me as an ignorant!
All I could find was some threads in Q&A which unfortunately are only Q without any convincing A!!
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eggman89 said:
The ram management is poor on S3 and multitasking is crippled.
From launcher redraws to phone and contact lag.. Everything is caused by it
There's no solution but only workarounds.
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Please point me to some workarounds I'm ready to try some!
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I have a nexus 7 and the amount of memory used by identical apps is 2-3 times more on the s3. It must be down to the architecture of the processors and compiling.
I have to remove loads of bloat and freeze some apps when not in use to make it usable. Shocking really.
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Stfu
Free ram is not wasetd ram , its used to cache apps in the ram and when the ram is full no apps will be cached and and no apps will run in the background :thumbdown:
Btw my friend and my sister gs3 have the same problem probably there is ram leaking with gs3
And I dont have any problem with s2 here too running LSD
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Edit: mali driver r2p4 is known to leak the ram in JB so I bet its still leaking ram even after patching the framework
http://forum.insignal.co.kr/viewtopic.php?t=76
The ram issue on the S3 is well-known. The memory management isn't as good as it could have been. I blame bloatwiz. Don't know if we should cry or laugh. They have crammed more than 800 MB of bloat in a phone that runs perfectly without it. A full odin rom is approx 1.2 GB and it's possible to reach a size of 300 MB (I know, because I have tried), by seriously cleaning up the system partition, in terms of apps and libs and it runs without a hitch, and has loads of ram left.
It also goes without saying that unused ram, is wasted ram.
yahyoh said:
Stfu
Free ram is not wasetd ram , its used to cache apps in the ram and when the ram is full no apps will be cached and and no apps will run in the background :thumbdown:
Btw my friend and my sister gs3 have the same problem probably there is ram leaking with gs3
And I dont have any problem with s2 here too running LSD
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Edit: mali driver r2p4 is known to leak the ram in JB so I bet its still leaking ram even after patching the framework
http://forum.insignal.co.kr/viewtopic.php?t=76
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If you actually read a bit of the thread instead of aggressively dismissing the post, you would have realized that the lower amount of ram is because there are more cached processes. That's where the RAM went. The underlying issue is the RAM management itself.
As others have pointed it out, unused RAM is wasted RAM.
If you don't have a good knowledge of what you are saying, better not tell others to shut up and maybe put it in practice yourself.
Also, there is no proof that there is a leak in the Mali hack job from Samsung in stock roms. It's not comparable to the leaking in CM which is completely replicable.
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More free RAM=better multitasking,it's a fact.It's only wasted if you are going to run only 1 app at a time or else android will start killing apps when your phone is running out of memory.Not to mention the annoying browser refreshes which I face a lot even when I'm running only1 app with the browser(e.g:Facebook).If I'm playing a heavy game and recieved a 1 min call, the game restarts and I lose my progress.The problem is the terrible memory management in touchwiz ROMs,I have tried out a few AOSP 4.2 ROMs before and I have to say that multitasking is much better on them and browser refreshes happen less frequently.So,if you are ok with losing TW's features, flash an aosp ROM for better multitasking.
drakester09 said:
If you actually read a bit of the thread instead of aggressively dismissing the post, you would have realized that the lower amount of ram is because there are more cached processes. That's where the RAM went. The underlying issue is the RAM management itself.
As others have pointed it out, unused RAM is wasted RAM.
If you don't have a good knowledge of what you are saying, better not tell others to shut up and maybe put it in practice yourself.
Also, there is no proof that there is a leak in the Mali hack job from Samsung in stock roms. It's not comparable to the leaking in CM which is completely replicable.
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LOL can u check how many apps are cached when when the free ram too low ( 80 or 90 MB ) u will got 1 or 2 + as soon as u close the app it will get killed instead of get cached :silly:
for god sake stop saying free ram is wasted ram ( if is that ur theory then go for 512 MB ram device its enough for u beause free ram is wasted ram ) and live with **** multitasking
and Mali driver leak is just a thought because the free ram problem only happened on JB on ICS my sister device was have about 200MB ~ most of the time
Well used to have this issue. Rooted, installed omega 40 and I can seamlessly multitask upto 6-7 apps at a time. Try omega rom, multitasking is great in this rom.
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yahyoh said:
Stfu
Free ram is not wasetd ram , its used to cache apps in the ram and when the ram is full no apps will be cached and and no apps will run in the background :thumbdown:
Btw my friend and my sister gs3 have the same problem probably there is ram leaking with gs3
And I dont have any problem with s2 here too running LSD
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Edit: mali driver r2p4 is known to leak the ram in JB so I bet its still leaking ram even after patching the framework
http://forum.insignal.co.kr/viewtopic.php?t=76
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So what you are saying the apps are not cached they are kept in RAM, please learn what caching is, cached apps are stored in the cache partition of the phone, they are not cached in the RAM otherwise the phone is doing nothing with them.
Android works by moving background apps to the internal memory, if you switch your phone on check RAM usage, then open apps using the home button to get back to the home screen and check it you will see that no matter how many apps you open the free and used RAM values barely change up to a certain point, this is the app caching at work.
If you home out of apps you will see why Android caches apps.
Running stock ELLA I just used the recent apps, and home button, opened 7 apps and used the home button to return to the home screen, no launcher redraws, and my apps all opened instantly where they were.
yahyoh said:
LOL can u check how many apps are cached when when the free ram too low ( 80 or 90 MB ) u will got 1 or 2 + as soon as u close the app it will get killed instead of get cached :silly:
for god sake stop saying free ram is wasted ram ( if is that ur theory then go for 512 MB ram device its enough for u beause free ram is wasted ram ) and live with **** multitasking
and Mali driver leak is just a thought because the free ram problem only happened on JB on ICS my sister device was have about 200MB ~ most of the time
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Well said:thumbup:
I'm also sick of listening about "free ram is wasted ram".
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I dont see any problems here, this isn't just turned on either.
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Mine always hovers around 650/832... Even if i have crap ton of apps running,
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Article: Samsung Galaxy K launch event scheduled for April 29th
Samsung Galaxy K launch event scheduled for April 29th
http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-k-launch-event-368298/
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It's the Galaxy S5 "Zoom" for anyone who doesn't already know.
Smaller screen, bigger camera.
Whatever happened to the S5 Prime?
The one that was supposed to be:
805 processor (64 bit)
QHD 5.2 screen
4GB Ram
Most of that would be icing on the cake, but the fact that the S5 stuck with 2GB RAM is really a big reason I'm not jumping on upgrading. Heavy multitasking with a number of apps running is just so sluggish with 2GB RAM.
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lawhawk said:
Whatever happened to the S5 Prime?
The one that was supposed to be:
805 processor (64 bit)
QHD 5.2 screen
4GB Ram
Most of that would be icing on the cake, but the fact that the S5 stuck with 2GB RAM is really a big reason I'm not jumping on upgrading. Heavy multitasking with a number of apps running is just so sluggish with 2GB RAM.
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hmm S5 2GB ram is getting the job done , I haven't found sluggish performance what so every in heavy multitasking & GS5 is smoother then Note 3 that holds 3GB.
The LG G2 with 2GB is a different story though , After kitkat update device performance became shot on many levels.
A great benchmark video found at ATT GS5 forums,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2720526
lawhawk said:
Whatever happened to the S5 Prime?
The one that was supposed to be:
805 processor (64 bit)
QHD 5.2 screen
4GB Ram
Most of that would be icing on the cake, but the fact that the S5 stuck with 2GB RAM is really a big reason I'm not jumping on upgrading. Heavy multitasking with a number of apps running is just so sluggish with 2GB RAM.
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3gb isn't really required right now. Android apps are not that advance. Unused RAM is wasted RAM, AOSP always helps with the "sluggish" you speak of
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daxecutioner24 said:
3gb isn't really required right now. Android apps are not that advance. Unused RAM is wasted RAM, AOSP always helps with the "sluggish" you speak of
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daxecutioner24 said:
3gb isn't really required right now. Android apps are not that advance. Unused RAM is wasted RAM, AOSP always helps with the "sluggish" you speak of
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Wish that was the case for me. Even with a full wipe and clean install after about a half a days worth of normal usage my phone constantly is hovering around the max in RAM. I'm constantly having to goto the RAM manager to clear memory, otherwise tasks start to really become hung up in the response time.
Even things like a google search will become so lagged that the working circle just keeps spinning. Once I go and clear memory the search is back to normal like you would expect.
Unfortunately, this solution has to be repeated about every half hour and it's just really a major annoyance that it seems to be in need of more ram as my resources constantly seemed to be pushed to their max.
So why is my phone so slow and not responsive unless I clear the RAM if unused RAM is wasted RAM?
Even with clearing it, the least it will go down to in terms of use is .96GB - and typically shoots right back up to 1.37, 1.42, or 1.44 GB is use within a matter of minutes? !
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lawhawk said:
Wish that was the case for me. Even with a full wipe and clean install after about a half a days worth of normal usage my phone constantly is hovering around the max in RAM. I'm constantly having to goto the RAM manager to clear memory, otherwise tasks start to really become hung up in the response time.
Even things like a google search will become so lagged that the working circle just keeps spinning. Once I go and clear memory the search is back to normal like you would expect.
Unfortunately, this solution has to be repeated about every half hour and it's just really a major annoyance that it seems to be in need of more ram as my resources constantly seemed to be pushed to their max.
So why is my phone so slow and not responsive unless I clear the RAM if unused RAM is wasted RAM?
Even with clearing it, the least it will go down to in terms of use is .96GB - and typically shoots right back up to 1.37, 1.42, or 1.44 GB is use within a matter of minutes? !
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you probably got crapload of bloat running or messengers and stuff in the background
^ indeed. I run apps like crazy and I have no lag.
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lawhawk said:
Wish that was the case for me. Even with a full wipe and clean install after about a half a days worth of normal usage my phone constantly is hovering around the max in RAM. I'm constantly having to goto the RAM manager to clear memory, otherwise tasks start to really become hung up in the response time.
Even things like a google search will become so lagged that the working circle just keeps spinning. Once I go and clear memory the search is back to normal like you would expect.
Unfortunately, this solution has to be repeated about every half hour and it's just really a major annoyance that it seems to be in need of more ram as my resources constantly seemed to be pushed to their max.
So why is my phone so slow and not responsive unless I clear the RAM if unused RAM is wasted RAM?
Even with clearing it, the least it will go down to in terms of use is .96GB - and typically shoots right back up to 1.37, 1.42, or 1.44 GB is use within a matter of minutes? !
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Like people above me said bloatware. Have you even rooted? Or disable apps running in the background? Your never going to win by constantly closing apps ever so often. Let me tell you a secret, they will keep restarting back up. Most users outside of xda won't notice this, meaning almost everyone who buys this phone. Since you come here, when Roms come by, get them!!
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