Hi everybody:
I'll start with the tl;dr - CM9 & 10 aren't handling long SMS's the way I am wanting them to; stock is.
Long version:
I've found something strange with trying to upgrade to CM9/10 to deal with long SMS's, and I'm wondering if it's just me, it's something that has been overlooked, or it just is what it is.
I only really text with one person: my wife.
With the stock Samsung ROM, I have no problems whatsoever: short messages, long message, images, whatever....it's all good. I can use Go SMS or Handcent, and both work exactly the same (how I know this: my wife doesn't complain about my messages.)
When I tried installing CM9 (and 10...though I had different things happen in both versions), I have some issues. Short SMS work fine. Long SMS...not so much. In the stock SMS app, it splits the SMS up into different messages (1/2, 2/2...). Personally, I don't have a problem with this, but the wife...not so much. She likes the messages to be all in one, without it being split up. So, to promote marital harmony, I tried both Go SMS and Handcent here. Handcent seems to do the same as stock: splits the message. Go SMS...it reports delivery failure, but only the first part of the message gets sent out. (In CM10, stock still did split messages, and one of the other two did as well, while the other did not send at all. I don't remember which was which, though...)
I know most people prefer the split SMS rather than the conversion to MMS...but, to promote marital harmony, I need that conversion. It works fine in stock, no matter which program. It doesn't work at all in CM9/10, no matter which program.
Any ideas?
SMS = short message service and by network rules is limited to 160 characters, so anything more will be split. Sms is send through GPRS like voice.
MMS = multimedia message service and is sent through your cellular data connection, so it doesn't have a length rule, but pictures ,music, and videos are limited in size.
There probably isn't a crossover option, as they are different for different purposes.
Does CM have the option in the message settings menu to control message splitting ?
It used to anyway....g
In the past att didn't spit long message when testing another att person. They still don't. All the JB roms don't have what ever it takes to sent long text. To make this short, no matter what you do right now, you can't send long text as far as I know. There is an app on the market called long text, I think. Have not tried it though.
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What rom are you on? If its a jellybean rom when at the messaging all menu--->settings---> scroll all the way down to a option that reads convert SMS to MMS and check of the box.. works great ! Hope that helps
EDIT: Almost forgot just below that is the option to set how many messages before it converts to MMS default is at 3
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What rom are you on? If its a jellybean rom when at the messaging all menu--->settings---> scroll all the way down to a option that reads convert SMS to MMS and check of the box.. works great ! Hope that helps
EDIT: Almost forgot just below that is the option to set how many messages before it converts to MMS default is at 3
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What rom are you on, that option isn't on my rom or any rom I've tried.
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Manelscout4life's rom..using a inverted MMS to but I don't think that effects those settings
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Hi guys.
I recently installed 2.1 on my X10 and Sony's SMS app is so bad. Its slow and inefficient. When one sends a message the application blocks until the message is sent so you can't handle multiple conversations simultaneously. The loading of conversations also blocks the app so you can't do anything. On top of all this it is generally slow.
I went on a Quest to get a new app working. I tried Handcent and ChompSMS but they wouldn't send MMS messages and I wasn't happy with their interface.
I then tried to get the default Android 2.1 SMS app working but the picture took over the list view. (see attachment)
Has anyone ran into these problems and/or can suggest a better, more efficient SMS/MMS app?
Thanks in advance,
Scott
Erm... handscent sms supports MMS...
You just have to press the (+) button
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I have been trying it but it won't send MMS for me nor receive any. (it seems to use the default messaging app to receive them and then reads the messaging database, but i had removed it to try the default android one [the one the pic]).
Ahhh okay
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Hey,
Do you find the stock app slow? Maybe i just have to re flash.
Scott
My problem with the SE app is that when you send to multiple recipients there's no equivalent to Handcent's 'send as split threads' setting. Makes it all messy and confusing imho. Can't say I'm taken with Handcent's interface, but it's functionality and ease of use is the best I've found.
No problem with SMS either.
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hey all... i find different problem with sony's stock sms app...it seems like i can't send sms with more than 160 characters, but with other sms apps works fine. i really like the stock sms, runs really smooth...
i called the local s.e. support but as always, they don't have a clue about the problem
any help?
bobsaget78 said:
Hi guys.
I recently installed 2.1 on my X10 and Sony's SMS app is so bad. Its slow and inefficient. When one sends a message the application blocks until the message is sent so you can't handle multiple conversations simultaneously. The loading of conversations also blocks the app so you can't do anything. On top of all this it is generally slow.
I went on a Quest to get a new app working. I tried Handcent and ChompSMS but they wouldn't send MMS messages and I wasn't happy with their interface.
I then tried to get the default Android 2.1 SMS app working but the picture took over the list view. (see attachment)
Has anyone ran into these problems and/or can suggest a better, more efficient SMS/MMS app?
Thanks in advance,
Scott
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Hm , that's weird. Coming from my mere experience in Graphics either something is wrong with the .9.png files (have you edited or tried to edit anything at all!?) or something is wrong with the dpi of the icons used...
On the other hand I could be totaly wrong!
jurchek said:
hey all... i find different problem with sony's stock sms app...it seems like i can't send sms with more than 160 characters, but with other sms apps works fine. i really like the stock sms, runs really smooth...
i called the local s.e. support but as always, they don't have a clue about the problem
any help?
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You want more than 160 characters?
Here in Greece we 're begging for 160 characters! We currently have 75 because all our alphabet consists of 'special-UNICODE' characters.
And If I'm not mistaken 160 is the maximum you can get anyway!
So I guess your next choice is e-mail instead of SMS , or Google Talk!
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You want more than 160 characters?
Here in Greece we 're begging for 160 characters! We currently have 75 because all our alphabet consists of 'special-UNICODE' characters.
And If I'm not mistaken 160 is the maximum you can get anyway!
So I guess your next choice is e-mail instead of SMS , or Google Talk!
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well the max sms i wrote contained 13 sms-es, so i'm kinda obsessed (yea yea, i could write mms instead)..and sorry 160 is not the maximum, coz with handcent sms i can send more than 160 characters, but i don't like the program...
the s.e. support said that that we should try to hard reset it and then it should work..but first backup! ... will report later
*EDIT - tested --> everything's the same....
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Hm , that's weird. Coming from my mere experience in Graphics either something is wrong with the .9.png files (have you edited or tried to edit anything at all!?) or something is wrong with the dpi of the icons used...
On the other hand I could be totaly wrong!
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I have not edited that photo in anyway. That's what the default AOSP Mms.apk looks like when put into Sony's 2.1 theme. Its useless in that state.
If you look for better sms app try Pure Messenger...for me it's almost perfect
A Way?
Now with all the ports of custom ROMs out there, does anyone know how to port over the stock SMS app to a Sony Ericsson based ROM?
Hi,
Please tell me how to get rid of the god-awful slow texting app that comes with this phone, and replace it with the stock android texting app.
Thanks!
Are you referring to the AT&T messages app? 'Cause the SMS app that comes stock works fine for me :/
Stock messages app works fine for me. If you have root you may be able to find differnt message apps, but my first suggestion is to give handcent a try as it is my go to sms app for when I'm having issues with cusom ROMs being buggy with mms. Its got a threaded look to it, much like iphone.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...GwsMSwxLDIxMiwiY29tLmhhbmRjZW50Lm5leHRzbXMiXQ..
It also has font packs and other stuff on the app store.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=handcent_market
I far prefer GO SMS Pro, love the interface and features, but with all the third-party SMS apps I have an issue of double and triple texts being sent to people. I agree the Samsung SMS app is painfully slow. I hate using it, but it's my only choice because it doesn't send out duplicate texts. :/
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I far prefer GO SMS Pro, love the interface and features, but with all the third-party SMS apps I have an issue of double and triple texts being sent to people. I agree the Samsung SMS app is painfully slow. I hate using it, but it's my only choice because it doesn't send out duplicate texts. :/
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Thats very odd, I've never got complaint of this. Have you googled the issue to see if there is a known solution or work around? As common as these apps are you can't possibly be the only one misfortunate enough to experience this. I have had issues in the past getting numerous notifications despite turning native notifications off for SMS, but thats an entirely different issue.
How do i replace the Samsung message app with the vanilla android one? The Samsung one is slow and is a failed attempt at copying iphone. The keyboard even blocks the send button!
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How do i replace the Samsung message app with the vanilla android one? The Samsung one is slow and is a failed attempt at copying iphone. The keyboard even blocks the send button!
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Google is your friend to find an mms.apk. you need to be rooted. And have root explorer and a little knowledge
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what i did was use LauncherPro Plus and GoSMS.... i used handscent but prefer go... you can change the launcher icons and apps in the lower row with launcherpro.
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Google is your friend to find an mms.apk. you need to be rooted. And have root explorer and a little knowledge
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I am rooted and have root explorer. Can you share the little knowledge?
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Thats very odd, I've never got complaint of this. Have you googled the issue to see if there is a known solution or work around? As common as these apps are you can't possibly be the only one misfortunate enough to experience this. I have had issues in the past getting numerous notifications despite turning native notifications off for SMS, but thats an entirely different issue.
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Mostly I see people on ICS complaining about this issue, but there are several people on GB complaining about it as well, for both GO SMS and Handcent and a few others on Google Play.
I had the duplicate notification issue with Handcent - even though I had disabled notifications for the stock app AND frozen it. Didn't have that problem with GO SMS. Had an odd problem when I tried Chomp SMS, where all incoming messages were anonymous and upon trying to view them, the message couldn't be found. That even happened in the stock app, so long as I had Chomp installed. Uninstalling fixed that issue immediately.
But so far as I can tell, some people just have the problem, and most don't. I have yet to see a reply from any of the devs about the issue. I've tried completely resetting the phone to factory spec but I still got the duplicate message issue.
I really, REALLY want to use GO SMS. Although something else I noticed is that some people's messages were being sent to the wrong contacts... Perhaps I'll try the vanilla Android apk...
How do you try the vanilla android apk?
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This is the ics messenger app, you can try it without needing root.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mms.ics.ext
Thanks but I don't really want a third party version with ads. I don't get it...isn't there a plain messaging app that comes with android (like what was on the nexus one), or is it proprietary to every device? It seems like this shouldn't be such a difficult thing to install instead of the crappy samsung one. Am I missing something?
i'm surprised. the sms app is not bad i'm the note. I've seen worse. (though i am using the rogers version)
I'm coming from a rooted Inspire 4G (cyanogen) and I've noticed that the texting on the Samsung Messaging app is a bit sluggish. And some keys don't respond to my fast fingers.. Yet the app itself runs very fast (ie open app, open threads, go back, etc).
One thing I did was uninstall Swype through Titanium and I think I've noticed a difference in the keyboard speed. It may just be my imagination though
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I'm using go SMS, no issues..as long as I leave stock installed and not frozen..if I do..no mms messages
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Hey everyone, currently running AOKP's newest rom and I noticed I am again having the issue where multiple pictures in one MMS are viewing as a slideshow and not as individual pictures.
In the past (and based on my searching) it appears some ROMs have fixed this issue, but all the ones I could find were about 6 months to a year old. I am weary of flashing any of these as since the phone is now running ICS instead of GB, I don't want to mess anything up.
So, anyone know of a fix, or if an older version of mms.apk will work on ICS?
I'm hoping this is just something no one knows and I didn't ask a retarded question
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I'm pretty sure that's a "feature" of the stock mms.apk. It was like that on stock GB too, and still is on stock ICS (the leaks and stock I9100 TW-ified ICS). Coming from an iPhone, it annoyed me too at first, but I got used to it eventually.
Uhhhh,
On my device running AOKP, I have multiple pictures received in one MMS conversation and when I tap on it to open, it opens just one, that one I tapped, not a slideshow. Don't know what happen to you.
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Uhhhh,
On my device running AOKP, I have multiple pictures received in one MMS conversation and when I tap on it to open, it opens just one, that one I tapped, not a slideshow. Don't know what happen to you.
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When you say mms conversation are you referring to a single mms message with multiple pictures or a thread with multiple pictures? I ask because there's a difference.
With an iPhone you can include multiple pictures in a single mms. That shows as a slide show for me. If someone sends a single picture it shows like normal. 3 pictures in 3 separate mms show as normal too.
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When you say mms conversation are you referring to a single mms message with multiple pictures or a thread with multiple pictures? I ask because there's a difference.
With an iPhone you can include multiple pictures in a single mms. That shows as a slide show for me. If someone sends a single picture it shows like normal. 3 pictures in 3 separate mms show as normal too.
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In bold, I meant the latter.
Anyway, with AOKP, I can't attach multiple "picture" in the same single mms but I can add a slideshow, which allows me to add more than one picture.
Again, it's on my Tx end, I don't know how the Rx end looks.
I've been looking for the same thing to remove the slideshow but no luck. Eventually gave up and went to Go SMS pro and have never looked back. Love every service of it and it doesn't display multiple photos as a slide show
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Hi, This is my first post and i need help, I was texting with my new phone (SGS3) in the stock messaging app, and i wrote an SMS (4 Pages) and suddenly the SMS was automatically converted to MMS, and there is no option to disable this horrible and ridiculous feature, and theres also no option to turn it off! So how can this be possible? Such an expenssive phone, and you cant even write freely an SMS??? Why is there a limit of 3 pages? I was wondering if someone could do a MOD to fix this! I had the same problem with the galaxy note, and there was a little mod that could fix that, so i think im not the only one that want this fixed! (i dont like custom ROMS or anything like that, and i dont like apps like GoSMS, or stuff like that, i just like the stock messaging app, but with the fix) i just want PLEASE a little mod to fix this BIG problem. (Sorry for my english)
Sms are limited to 160 characters. Otherwise it has to be sent as an Mms.
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Sms are limited to 160 characters. Otherwise it has to be sent as an Mms.
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Thats not what i asked for, i mean.. im coming from an iphone 4s and that never happened, in fact it never happened to me in all the phones i have had!! So, i dont see the point of converting an SMS automatically to MMS just because i write more than 3 pages, thats just ridiculous But the thing is, that i would like to know if someone could do a MOD for the stock messaging app to fix that and make it without characters restrictions! To explain it better this is what i want for my phone: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1371755
no one texts anymore, use whatsapp or some sort of instant messaging
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Sms are limited to 160 characters. Otherwise it has to be sent as an Mms.
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i'm pretty sure that's not how it works, SMS longer than 160 characters get sent as multiple SMS which then then recombined back into one sms on the recipients phone. I've had the issue before when one part of a multi SMS message was delayed causing me to have the first or second half only and when the other one arrived sometime later the phone still knew to combined them together.
MMS is only when you attach a picture, video or voice clip to the message.
I have just tested what the OP has said and its true, if you type a long SMS, after the 3rd set of 260 characters, (there is a counter just above the send icon) it then gets converted to a MMS
But to the OP, I do wonder why you would want to type such a long SMS on a regular basis? you can also just send the sms at 3 pages then send a new one.
Can't you just send after every two pages. Yeah, it cost more but it will solve your issue.
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i'm pretty sure that's not how it works, SMS longer than 160 characters get sent as multiple SMS which then then recombined back into one sms on the recipients phone. I've had the issue before when one part of a multi SMS message was delayed causing me to have the first or second half only and when the other one arrived sometime later the phone still knew to combined them together.
MMS is only when you attach a picture, video or voice clip to the message.
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Sms are limited to 160 characters (Per Page), And when you write more than 3 Pages, it will automatically convert your SMS to MMS without asking or option to disable, it will just convert it to MMS. (it will convert it even if you dont attach ANYTHING, Even if it just based on text)
Use Go sms... But this is stupid...
S3 shouldn't do that...
Lol at the Wattsapp suggestions
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Wow I just realised that there is no option to cancel this 'feature' after I read your thread.
I do hope this is resolved since for those on Payandgo networks, like me, MMS isn't always free whereas practically even mobile plan has free SMS. Defeats the objective here, you can send very long SMS texts (counts as more than 1 but still sends fine) from other phones no problem. On the galaxy nexus it was possible to disable this SMStoMMS converting problem easily, I hope the devs come up with a workaround..
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Who still has data rates for SMS and MMS? I thought this stuff was free now? In Australia SMS for free is pretty much standard and most plans have at least $500 of credit included, an MMS costs max 0.50c, is this seriously an issue? Just use a different messegeing ap or use an instant messenger.
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danben7 said:
Who still has data rates for SMS and MMS? I thought this stuff was free now? In Australia SMS for free is pretty much standard and most plans have at least $500 of credit included, an MMS costs max 0.50c, is this seriously an issue? Just use a different messegeing ap or use an instant messenger.
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Im Living in Nicaragua, Managua (Central America) There are no MMS plans here.. Just SMS! So this is a BIG issue for a lot of people! I dont like those ugly apps like Go sms... and stuff like that.they are horrible! Plus... i guess a developer can easily fix that issue! it has already been made in other phones! Heres what im talking about : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1371755
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lol, i think he meant "use email"
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Im Living in Nicaragua, Managua (Central America) There are no MMS plans here.. Just SMS! So this is a BIG issue for a lot of people! I dont like those ugly apps like Go sms... and stuff like that.they are horrible! Plus... i guess a developer can easily fix that issue! it has already been made in other phones! Heres what im talking about : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1371755
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Guys, am I right in saying that this was always a problem with stock messaging app? Hence most custom ROMs have a modded 'No MMS convert' message app? I remember this limitation on my stock SGS2 back in the day - dont remember this ever happening to me after custom roms.... or maybe I never sent over 3 pages.......
I just tried Texting over 311 characters from my SGS2 to my SGS3 and them back..........No MMS converting.... One whole page too....
Therefore this is not a problem with custom ROMs...
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Guys, am I right in saying that this was always a problem with stock messaging app? Hence most custom ROMs have a modded 'No MMS convert' message app? I remember this limitation on my stock SGS2 back in the day - dont remember this ever happening to me after custom roms.... or maybe I never sent over 3 pages.......
I just tried Texting over 311 characters from my SGS2 to my SGS3 and them back..........No MMS converting.... One whole page too....
Therefore this is not a problem with custom ROMs...
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The issue is just with the stock messaging app in Stock firmwares (with no custom ROMS) i dont like custom roms, thats why i need a mod to fix this! ***custom roms doesnt have this problems because they fix it***
SMS is for short messages.
If you are writing a book use email
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You can install gosms which have more options to configure or install the mod to deactivate that problem...
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Try using Handcent SMS app. It has that specific option to prevent auto converting to MMS.
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3pgs of sms....
THREE PAGES.
OF SMS.
Thank you for the amusement, OP. I'll be taking my +1 now.
So I have a slight issue with CM9 and the MMS.apk (it also exists in AOKP.) When I send a text that spans multiple texts, it splits them up. So if I send a message that is more than 160 characters, it will automatically split them into 2. I checked the settings and the option to split texts is turned off.
For those more technically minded, the term is called Concatenated SMS. Not sure if we just have to wait for it to be updated and fixed or if it's something else going on there. Granted, if someone can check if this issue exists on the International version, that would be great.
I believe there is a setting in the sms app itself that allows you to convert long text messages into mms so they won't split.
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I believe there is a setting in the sms app itself that allows you to convert long text messages into mms so they won't split.
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Right, but I shouldn't have to convert it to MMS for that. The true Stock software (that Samsung comes with) doesn't have this issue. Nor does any other phone, it splits it and rejoins it, but behind the scenes. MMS also drains more power since it has to initiate a data connection whereas SMS sends with the typical tower checkins.
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Right, but I shouldn't have to convert it to MMS for that. The true Stock software (that Samsung comes with) doesn't have this issue. Nor does any other phone, it splits it and rejoins it, but behind the scenes. MMS also drains more power since it has to initiate a data connection whereas SMS sends with the typical tower checkins.
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what does "true" stock software have to do with AOKP??? if you want stock software. run stock.
task650 said:
what does "true" stock software have to do with AOKP??? if you want stock software. run stock.
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It doesn't, I prefer closer to AOSP/AOKP, when I meantion "True" stock I mean Samsung Stock. Samsung Stock Messaging does support Concatenated SMS whereas AOSP/AOKP do not right now.
Dude, it's actually a smart thing for it to do that. I used to send msgs to my friends phone and they had to be partitioned BC he was using an archaic phone. I'm glad it does this. You should be thanking them. What's it hurting anyways?
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Dude, it's actually a smart thing for it to do that. I used to send msgs to my friends phone and they had to be partitioned BC he was using an archaic phone. I'm glad it does this. You should be thanking them. What's it hurting anyways?
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They are partitioned when they send. The difference is on phones that support rejoining the text they get rejoined. It's a visual issue plus the texts send out split 2-3 seconds apart. If I force it to MMS it hurts my battery since data uses more power than SMS.
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