Hello!
I have a dark, bit transparent but noticeable spot on my camera. I opened my Photon and tried to use the camera with no cover on it, but the spot has still been there. I tried to clean the lens and it didn't help too.
When I opened it I have completely voided my warranty (SBF won't help anymore), so I'm not gonna send it to Motorola.
I'm using CM9 right now, and the spot has been there with another custom ROM too.
Does anybody have an idea better than flashing SBF? I don't want to flash the SBF, it takes a lot of time, and it's not so likely to help.
Any help will be appreciated. Thanks!
yairku said:
Hello!
I have a dark, bit transparent but noticeable spot on my camera. I opened my Photon and tried to use the camera with no cover on it, but the spot has still been there. I tried to clean the lens and it didn't help too.
When I opened it I have completely voided my warranty (SBF won't help anymore), so I'm not gonna send it to Motorola.
I'm using CM9 right now, and the spot has been there with another custom ROM too.
Does anybody have an idea better than flashing SBF? I don't want to flash the SBF, it takes a lot of time, and it's not so likely to help.
Any help will be appreciated. Thanks!
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Almost definitely a hardware problem. You literally can't see any sort of smudge on the lens? What did you clean it with? You would need to use a glasses cloth or something of the sort to clean it properly.
Also, I don't know if the Photon has one, but did you break any sort of a seal when you took the phone apart? If not, you can SBF back (takes literally about 10-15 minutes). They don't fix accidental damage but im pretty sure if its a hardware malfunction they will replace it regardless of if you have insurance.
Acvice said:
Almost definitely a hardware problem. You literally can't see any sort of smudge on the lens? What did you clean it with? You would need to use a glasses cloth or something of the sort to clean it properly.
Also, I don't know if the Photon has one, but did you break any sort of a seal when you took the phone apart? If not, you can SBF back (takes literally about 10-15 minutes). They don't fix accidental damage but im pretty sure if its a hardware malfunction they will replace it regardless of if you have insurance.
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Thanks for your answer.
I tried to clean it with a rolled piece of paper. I inserted it into the hole of the camera till in touched the lens. Moved it all over the lens and touched the spot while watching the camera app, but it didn't help. The spot is still there.
Unfortunately, I broke a seal when I took the phone apart. I didn't know that it was under Motorola's warranty, since I bought it on eBay. Now that I know that there was a warranty for a year from the purchase, I regret what I did. But it's too late.
yairku said:
Thanks for your answer.
I tried to clean it with a rolled piece of paper. I inserted it into the hole of the camera till in touched the lens. Moved it all over the lens and touched the spot while watching the camera app, but it didn't help. The spot is still there.
Unfortunately, I broke a seal when I took the phone apart. I didn't know that it was under Motorola's warranty, since I bought it on eBay. Now that I know that there was a warranty for a year from the purchase, I regret what I did. But it's too late.
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Just say a sprint store looked at it. Sprint opened up my photon and broke seal so they need to replace
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photon4glover said:
Just say a sprint store looked at it. Sprint opened up my photon and broke seal so they need to replace
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Thanks, but I don't think I'm gonna lie. I really violated the warranty terms. It's much more than unlocking.
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Dropped in the potty, will be buying another. I have taken this one apart to look around inside. Wanted to check for memory card and any other color change water damage stickers inside--there is one. ---------I am also going to take vid of the strength of the screen. Ima try to scratch the hell out of it, and see what it takes to break/crack the screen as well , interested in seeing how durable it is. Update later -
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Dropped in the potty, will be buying another. I have taken this one apart to look around inside. Wanted to check for memory card and any other color change water damage stickers inside--there is one. ---------I am also going to take vid of the strength of the screen. Ima try to scratch the hell out of it, and see what it takes to break/crack the screen as well , interested in seeing how durable it is. Update later -
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Very interesting. Couldn't wait to see it and sorry it happened to ya.
Perhaps you can make a step-by-step vid instruction on how to disassembling and reassembling the Amaze as it will be very helpful for others in case they needed it.
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Very interesting. Couldn't wait to see it and sorry it happened to ya.
Perhaps you can make a step-by-step vid instruction on how to disassembling and reassembling the Amaze as it will be very helpful for others in case they needed it.
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agreed, teardown sticky ftw!
phone isn't ruined water does not damage the phone, only if there was chlorine in the water like a pool. Only thing that can get damaged by the water is the LED bulbs and a new LCD display will be needed at most that's worst case scenario. I fix water damaged phones all the time. Stick it in a bowl of dry rise for a few days that some times help.
@ celltimemb. I didnt know bout the LED fix. Good to know. BUT- I didnt drop it in then pull it out. A kiddie put it there and i found it there later. Put the cell on calcium chloride (Damp-rid) I use this to pull moisture out of many things. Didnt help so i figured pay the deductible and play with the remains. --Yeah i'll do a tear-down vid before the screen test. I had it apart already-I will have s/o record me this wknd.
I think you should re-enact the toilet scene too.
Dont forget the last part
"Will it blend?" video
OH SHIZNIT! Now that WOULD be HTC AmAzInG!
I would love to see how easy it is to scratch the screen with a single grain of sand.
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sorry to hear
celltimemb said:
phone isn't ruined water does not damage the phone, only if there was chlorine in the water like a pool. Only thing that can get damaged by the water is the LED bulbs and a new LCD display will be needed at most that's worst case scenario. I fix water damaged phones all the time. Stick it in a bowl of dry rise for a few days that some times help.
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Elaborate please ?
I was under the impression youd have to get lucky there wasnt much current going through for the water damage to be survivable. ((i.e if youre in the middle of web surfing when it takes a dip its likely a goner))
I'm curious too. Does it depend on the phone also? I have friends who dropped their *phones in and it wouldn't work anymore. Probably a Apple thing though.
xndabox said:
I'm curious too. Does it depend on the phone also? I have friends who dropped their *phones in and it wouldn't work anymore. Probably a Apple thing though.
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I have (in the past 15 years or so) revive quite a few cell phones after water damage. What I usually do is to remove the battery immediately and start drying the device completely using air conditioner and hair dryer. Corrosion will kill the mainboard so when I have a driver handy, I open up the case and dip it in a bowl of rice, too.
I don't think we can revive batteries after fully soaked in water, though.
The worst case was when my friend went ocean swimming with his iphone in his pocket. We did everything but it didn't come back. But when he replaced his battery a few days later, the phone came back on.
Doing the screen test, any ideas on what to use and ways to scratch it? I have some ideas. I have the shatter/crack test figured out already.
rider222 said:
Doing the screen test, any ideas on what to use and ways to scratch it? I have some ideas. I have the shatter/crack test figured out already.
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other than keys n change you could try rubbing sand between the screen and a credit card.
Any updates on this? Kinda wanted to see how tough the screen is. A tear down guide would probably be useful as well.
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HTC Amaze screen test
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uk9-yLxQgA
Was an HTC amaze.. Lol. Kinda surprised how tough the screen is though.
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i'd cry like a little girl....for days.
Excellent video. Thanks for the information.
VZW is sending me a new Thunderbolt because of a small audio issue I was having with my phone. They told me on the phone if they detect water damage on my old Thunderbolt once they get it back, then I will be charged full retail.
Obviously I do not want that to happen.....thing is, I spilled part of a beer on my phone about 3 weeks ago. Immediately after it happened I took out battery and wiped the whole phone down.
It has worked fine since then besides the very small audio issue I recently started to have but this was just barely a week ago....I would think if it was cause of the liquid damage that that would've happened earlier.....
Anyway, is there any way they can tell if it has had water damage besides the battery sticker (Because I am sending them back the bare phone, no battery, no cover, no sd, no sim--just the phone)? How are they going to check? Should I do the rice trick just to be safe?
They probably won't look farther than the sticker. If they do, they could look for corrosion or residue around the main board.
Rice won't fix that
ThunderStick said:
They probably won't look farther than the sticker. If they do, they could look for corrosion or residue around the main board.
Rice won't fix that
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Yes but like I said they are just getting the phone back, not the battery, cover, sim card or sd card--just the phone. So since the battery will never leave my house, is there any other way they can tell?
As far as corrosion, wouldn't I notice my phone not working properly? Cause like I said, ever since the spill it seems to be working just fine....
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Yes but like I said they are just getting the phone back, not the battery, cover, sim card or sd card--just the phone. So since the battery will never leave my house, is there any other way they can tell?
As far as corrosion, wouldn't I notice my phone not working properly? Cause like I said, ever since the spill it seems to be working just fine....
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There is a sticker on the phone itself. It is on the back right side of the phone near the top. Kind of hard to see, but rest assure Verizon knows it's there. If you have insurance, now would be the time to use it.
Check out the attached pics of where the sticker is. Sorry it's blurry, my camera is old and crappy
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There is a sticker on the phone itself. It is on the back right side of the phone near the top. Kind of hard to see, but rest assure Verizon knows it's there. If you have insurance, now would be the time to use it.
Check out the attached pics of where the sticker is. Sorry it's blurry, my camera is old and crappy
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Underneath the battery, correct? What should the sticker look like when its dry and what should it look like when it has had liquid damage?
If they take apart the phone (or even just remove the back housing) then it will be very easy to see liquid damage, if any exists. I just replaced the screen on a thunderbolt a couple days ago, very easy to remove the back and take a look. If you want to check yourself, just get a torx 6 screwdriver, a thin flat head or knife to remove the "void" sticker and take a look for yourself before you find yourself on the receiving end of a $600 bill. Check YouTube for a video on taking it apart, it's very easy though.
How does Verizon check though? What are they going to look for?
Corrosion, internal liquid indicators. I don't think the T'bolt has any internal stickers, but some phones do.
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There is a sticker on the phone itself. It is on the back right side of the phone near the top. Kind of hard to see, but rest assure Verizon knows it's there. If you have insurance, now would be the time to use it.
Check out the attached pics of where the sticker is. Sorry it's blurry, my camera is old and crappy
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OK I do not see the sticker you are talking about....snapped a few pics with my work camera, what do you think:
It's on the side of the phone. You'll have to tilt the phone to see it. It's white with red spots on it. If it got wet, its completely red. That will be the first thing they look for.
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It's on the side of the phone. You'll have to tilt the phone to see it. It's white with red spots on it. If it got wet, its completely red. That will be the first thing they look for.
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I stared at my phone for nearly 15 minutes and cannot find any stickers that are white, red or white and red. I don't see anything. I got my Thunderbolt on launch day (3/17/11). Is it possible the launch day Thunderbolts are different somehow?
Let me know if you need me to upload more pics, I can do that.
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I stared at my phone for nearly 15 minutes and cannot find any stickers that are white, red or white and red. I don't see anything. I got my Thunderbolt on launch day (3/17/11). Is it possible the launch day Thunderbolts are different somehow?
Let me know if you need me to upload more pics, I can do that.
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Well, mine has a sticker there. Perhaps yours didn't come with one, or fell off at some point, but after looking a bit closer to your picture, I don't see one either.
Either way, specially since it was beer, they will be able to tell if anything got in there. Rice won't get beer out, it'll be sticky either way.
I personally wouldn't take the chance.
If you have insurance, now would be a good time to use it.
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Well, mine has a sticker there. Perhaps yours didn't come with one, or fell off at some point, but after looking a bit closer to your picture, I don't see one either.
Either way, specially since it was beer, they will be able to tell if anything got in there. Rice won't get beer out, it'll be sticky either way.
I personally wouldn't take the chance.
If you have insurance, now would be a good time to use it.
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Nothing is sticky at all and the phone works fine. Are they going to completely take the phone apart??
If they suspect anything they will. Did they mention anything about water damage? What was originally wrong with the phone?
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If they suspect anything they will. Did they mention anything about water damage? What was originally wrong with the phone?
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A small audio problem that is like teeny rattling I hear when other people call me
There is no sticker on the Thunderbolt, I just talked to Verizon. They go by judging the prongs that the battery hits and if they are corroded, then they charge full retail.
Mine look super gold though and appear to be okay imo......
That's really odd. I had a sticker there... The replacement I just got has one in the sale place too... Of course the Verizon rep didn't even know what a bootloader was... Go figure...
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orkillakilla said:
That's really odd. I had a sticker there... The replacement I just got has one in the sale place too... Of course the Verizon rep didn't even know what a bootloader was... Go figure...
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Can you post a picture of your sticker so I know what I'm looking for? Maybe my new tb will have one.
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You probably just damaged the earpiece speaker, which is pretty simple to replace and would only cost a few bucks. I can't say for sure, but I imagine the earpiece speaker is the same one that's in the EVO 4G or HD2.
The phones do have stickers, it is located right next to the two gold prongs on the upper right corner of the phone.
If your that worried about a full charge for the phone and since this issue may be related to the beer spilling on it, just use your insurance and pay the $99 deductible. Its better then getting hit with $600 charge.
Sometimes when liquids are spilled on a phone, it could take a little time for it to affect a phone.
Good luck
for those of you who like to drop your phone in the toilet:
Completely submerged phone in water
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7Ama47RGdL4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Ln0daAowdJI
Only a few devices are supported now but as they get started I'm sure they'll include more phones...this thing is amazing, I would pay to have my phone water proofed for around 60 dollars is what is listed on their site.
www.liquipel.com
http://www.liquipel.com/liquipel/
wish they had it for our phones, hopefully soon , wonder if i can call them and see if they can do our phone!!!
I was gonna send my mytouch 4g to them, but then I got the Amaze... now I gotta wait... One thing that's good is that I have a backup phone once I send my phone to them.
I just don't see how that's possible if they don't cover the ports that give access to the inside of the phone.
Considering our ports on our phone lead right into our battery cover and all of our internal components.
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I just don't see how that's possible if they don't cover the ports that give access to the inside of the phone.
Considering our ports on our phone lead right into our battery cover and all of our internal components.
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nano technology, gets everywhere in the phone....1/1000 as thick as human hair.
seansk said:
nano technology, gets everywhere in the phone....1/1000 as thick as human hair.
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What do you think though? Legit? Doable?
Guess we won't know til we can test it. Lol.
nguyendqh said:
What do you think though? Legit? Doable?
Guess we won't know til we can test it. Lol.
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its legit, but I don't know if they'll do our phones yet, there's only a small list, iphone a a bunch of HTC's like evo, but not our phone yet, if we call them maybe they'll do it...I don't see why not.
This technology has been in the works for a while. I remember reading about it and seeing videos of it in action a while back, like at least 5 years ago. I'm super excited to see that it's finally coming around!
It's basically a spray, or a vapor, or a liquid itself, that they spray on or dunk the electronics in. It coats literally EVERYTHING inside it. Imagine dipping your phone in thick paint and letting it dry. Same concept but this is a nano thin layer of a clear substance that repels water. Amazing stuff.
I'm definitely going to give it a shot if their site ever loads and I can find out how much it costs. Haha
danielelias said:
This technology has been in the works for a while. I remember reading about it and seeing videos of it in action a while back, like at least 5 years ago. I'm super excited to see that it's finally coming around!
It's basically a spray, or a vapor, or a liquid itself, that they spray on or dunk the electronics in. It coats literally EVERYTHING inside it. Imagine dipping your phone in thick paint and letting it dry. Same concept but this is a nano thin layer of a clear substance that repels water. Amazing stuff.
I'm definitely going to give it a shot if their site ever loads and I can find out how much it costs. Haha
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costs 60 dollars, but they don't list amaze as one of the phones they support, I'm going to call them right now see if they can do it.
seems cool. waiting for the amaze to be one day available
I have seen some other companies doing the same thing, except with car windshields. It's like a high-tech rainex. Very cool, didnt thing it would be out for phones this soon, but that's incredible! I wonder if you will be able to remove the housing on your phone after it get's sprayed with this stuff, and it still be waterproof upon putting it back together. like nguy said earlier it has to seal off the ports, and dis-assembling it would definitely break this seal.
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I have seen some other companies doing the same thing, except with car windshields. It's like a high-tech rainex. Very cool, didnt thing it would be out for phones this soon, but that's incredible! I wonder if you will be able to remove the housing on your phone after it get's sprayed with this stuff, and it still be waterproof upon putting it back together. like nguy said earlier it has to seal off the ports, and dis-assembling it would definitely break this seal.
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Yes you can, they did this with and HTC device and there's a video of it on their website on the bottom. you can take off the back, the battery, heck you can dissasseble put it in water and put it back, IT WILL STILL WORK. This nano spray goes into every SINGLE CREVICE OF YOUR PHONE. it is nano technology!!
Sound or heating issues ?
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Sound or heating issues ?
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This does not affect the phone in any way...its nano...search nano and see how small it is, 1 nanometer = 1.0 × 10-6 millimeters, its at least 1 millionth of a millimeter or smaller... you can see on a ruller how big a millimeter is. does that answer your questions, if won't affect anything, just repel water. if it doesn't affect the conductance between the battery and the phone, it really wont' affect anything else...but call and ask them, i'm sure you'll get the same answer
another video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7Ama47RGdL4
I am guessing that all this does is protect the electronic components from shorting out or corroding if they are exposed to liquids. I also assume that if you submerge the phone, it will still sink and fill with water and you will still get water under the screen and have to dry it out, etc.
Finally, and I didn't read their web site, but does the process void the warranty?
I watched a couple videos on this tested on the iphone and thunderbolt and it did work. i wouldnt want to test it unless i had a backup or something. it would be safe to have just cause though
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I am guessing that all this does is protect the electronic components from shorting out or corroding if they are exposed to liquids. I also assume that if you submerge the phone, it will still sink and fill with water and you will still get water under the screen and have to dry it out, etc.
Finally, and I didn't read their web site, but does the process void the warranty?
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what does this have to do with warranty? how would HTC know?
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what does this have to do with warranty? how would HTC know?
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I asked about the warranty because I had not seen the video on how this is applied to the phone. I have since seen that. So, if that is how it is applied, every phone should be supported soon.
Believe me, I am the same way; How would HTC know? I guess I am just not convinced that the $60 application is worth it. With any phone, i see it as paying $60 for this application, something other than water damage occurs and I get the phone replaced. If I understand this right, now I have to get this application done again for another $60 because my replacement is a different phone.
If not already, this company should be selling their technology to the OEM. I think the Moto Droid Razr already has this or something similar.
I know many of you will disagree, but this is just plain "gimmicky". I would only consider this if I didn't pay for monthly insurance. I am 10x more likely to drop and break the phone than I am to get water damage. I think most people are.
According to their own terms of use, they only warrant/guarantee that they will apply the coating, not that it will work.
Does anyone reading here work at a cell phone store who can say what the most common reason for a replacement is? I'd be curious.
Hey guys,
the other day heavy rain caught me up on the street, thus my phone was all wet.
It rang, I took it in my hands and it slipped away, and so my rear back glass got broke.
Now I'm looking for replacement, please do not send me to sony service, they're gonna have it for weeks and gonna charge me very much.
Does anyone know where can I get oem replacement for it?
Does this look good to you? http://www.eb
ay.com/itm/Back-Rear-Battery-Cover-Sony-Xperia-Z2-D6502-D6503-D6543-L50w-Black-New-ORIGINAL-/181382676544?pt=US_Cell_Phone_Replacement_Parts_Tools&hash=item2a3b400040
Or this? http://roun
ded.com/sony-xperia-z2-d6502-d6503-d6543-l50w-battery-cover-black-en.html
If not, can you suggest me where to look for it?
And what about water proofing after that? Any chance of having it back?
Regards!
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Hey guys,
the other day heavy rain caught me up on the street, thus my phone was all wet.
It rang, I took it in my hands and it slipped away, and so my rear back glass got broke.
Now I'm looking for replacement, please do not send me to sony service, they're gonna have it for weeks and gonna charge me very much.
Does anyone know where can I get oem replacement for it?
Does this look good to you? http://www.eb
ay.com/itm/Back-Rear-Battery-Cover-Sony-Xperia-Z2-D6502-D6503-D6543-L50w-Black-New-ORIGINAL-/181382676544?pt=US_Cell_Phone_Replacement_Parts_Tools&hash=item2a3b400040
Or this? http://roun
ded.com/sony-xperia-z2-d6502-d6503-d6543-l50w-battery-cover-black-en.html
If not, can you suggest me where to look for it?
And what about water proofing after that? Any chance of having it back?
Regards!
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That ebay link will probably be your best bet.
I would just worry that replacements are knock-off and plastic.
Waterproofing can probably be had if the same adhesive seems to be used and the back seems original. Would I throw my phone in the pool afterwards? Probably not...:silly:
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That ebay link will probably be your best bet.
I would just worry that replacements are knock-off and plastic.
Waterproofing can probably be had if the same adhesive seems to be used and the back seems original. Would I throw my phone in the pool afterwards? Probably not...:silly:
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I'll give ebay a try, thanks mate for suggestion, even now I've never tried my water proof phone, didn't have any need or even courage, but I hope its gonna be at least splash proof.
Witrigs.com has them
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Witrigs.com has them
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It seems to me that have no logo on their plates, and they are out of stock for as long as I've been following them,
so I decided to go for this one
opinions?
did anyone try the above link?
It looks promising but did any one tried the link above and whether it's exatly what's given in picture. I tried eBay but it did not carry nfc antenna in it(I've damaged my nfc while removing back), also xperia logo looked fake on one I ordered.
Any suggestions for where to get exactly original part.
Never seen or heard of this before, but this happened to me. See attached image. What is this thing? It doesn't move when I tap the phone against something. Pictures are obviously crap. Is my next move removing the back cover to get rid of this thing?
Phone is less than 1 year old, but I don't think I can get warranty service as I bought it in the US as the international "no warranty" version from Amazon.
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camaro322hp said:
Never seen or heard of this before, but this happened to me. See attached image. What is this thing? It doesn't move when I tap the phone against something. Pictures are obviously crap. Is my next move removing the back cover to get rid of this thing?
Phone is less than 1 year old, but I don't think I can get warranty service as I bought it in the US as the international "no warranty" version from Amazon.
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it is faulty hardware send it for replacement
Good Luck
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I got a hair dryer and guitar pick and pulled the back cover off just enough to get the debris out. It appears to be a stray bit of adhesive or sealing tape around the camera lens. All good now, except my phone is probably no longer waterproof.
camaro322hp said:
I got a hair dryer and guitar pick and pulled the back cover off just enough to get the debris out. It appears to be a stray bit of adhesive or sealing tape around the camera lens. All good now, except my phone is probably no longer waterproof.
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Did you re use the stock adhesive?
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Did you re use the stock adhesive?
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Yes. I didn't pull off the entire back cover, only pulled up the corner where the camera is. I suppose I could buy a new back with fresh adhesive to try and make it waterproof again, but I'm not sure how successful that would be.
camaro322hp said:
Yes. I didn't pull off the entire back cover, only pulled up the corner where the camera is. I suppose I could buy a new back with fresh adhesive to try and make it waterproof again, but I'm not sure how successful that would be.
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Gotcha. I'm just curious because I'd like to sand down and buff out a clear back for mine. I think it'd be pretty neat.
civicsr2cool said:
Gotcha. I'm just curious because I'd like to sand down and buff out a clear back for mine. I think it'd be pretty neat.
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That does sound cool. Show us some pics if you manage to do it.